Here is the first leak of a part of the QX10 and QX100 manual:
1) Power Button
2) Microphone
3) Display Panel
: Indicates that the card is not inserted
: Indicates the remaining battery charge
4) Hook for belt
5) Tripod
6) Ring Control (DSC-QX100)
7) The power / charge / movie
Green: Power on
Orange: running charging
Red: running video
8) Zoom lever
9) shutter button
10) Multifunctional jack
11) RESET button
Dimensions (standard CIPA):
DSC-QX100: 62,5 mm × 62,5 mm × 55,5 mm (W / H / D)
DSC-QX10: 62,4 mm × 61,8 mm × 33,3 mm (W / H / D)
Weight (standard CIPA) (including battery pack NP-BN, “Memory Stick Micro”):
DSC-QX100: approx. 179 g
DSC-QX10: approx. 105 g
Power Supply: Rechargeable Battery Pack NP-BN, 3,6 In the
Power consumption (during shooting): 1.1 W
Reminder:
The QX100 has the same RX100MII sensor and Zeiss lens ($600 here on Amazon).
The QX10 has the same 1/2,3 inch 18 megapixel CMOS sensor and f/3,3-5.9 lens as the Sony WX150 ($400 on Amazon).
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Wonder if they work in conjunction with Google glasses?
It would be the first really cool reason for google glass, IMO. I’d definitely be interested.
Wow, it has a shutter button! I wonder if you can take pictures even without having to pair it to a smartphone…maybe in P mode or something. That’d be great
And it has a belt hook!!!! Can you believe that ?
Waist level photography!
“Is that your lens-camera or are you just happy to see me, sir?”
yeah… “just looking at your phone” 🙂 this can be done with normal camera over/under shoulder or on a belt and “hidden” wired remote inside your pocket..
i think it might be more likely that its a lanyard slot or 10mm slot for a strap,
According to my calculations the QX100 has 170 cm3 while RX100II has 220 cm3 of volume.
This means 75% of the RX100II. Not impressive at first glance.
*However*, an iPhone 5 has 51 cm3 of volume, so carrying an iPhone 5 + QX100 in your pocket is the same as carrying an RX100II without a smartphone. So…it’s probably worth it (not counting the instant editing and online sharing advantages). Also, the QX100+iPhone 5 has the same weight as the RX100II, so it’s another advantage of the combo.
Not impressive at a second glance either. Volume might be smaller, but the shape isn’t convenient for storage.
Indeed, I can’t see carrying that device in a jeans pocket, but the QX10 is really nice and easy to carry in a pocket. However I would still get the QX100, because I am not sure how much better image quality the QX10 has over a good smartphone (save for the zoom advantage which I don’t need).
It would have been great if they did a QX100 with a fixed 28mm lens and the size of the QX10. Maybe in the future.
It’s still an interesting toy when having a remote live view.
Actually, if the lens on these two models retract…then everything’s solved?
Or is this the volume, retracted?
The size is with the lens retracted, of course.
That’s…unbearably thick. I think I’m gonna have to pass.
It’s not about the numbers… it’s about how you feel about it. Could be 3.23421 cc bigger and 112.2314 grams heavier or lighter, but that’s irrelevant if the thing makes you feel like taking pictures.
This one is not for me because I’m obsessed with IQ but if I wasn’t, I’d love to use this for street photo and general tourism needs.
I can see that unit NOT being attached to the phone, however, it will be relatively hard to level the horizon…
Unless, of course, there’s a rotation sensor in the camera and artificial horizon overlay in the phone software. Which, knowing Sony, there probably is. I love the EVF level on my A57.
Exactly. Typical internet attitude of just measuring things with numbers but not actually being in the physical presence of it.
having a magnetic mount would be interesting to mount in places such as cars to take vid/pics with
but its a lot bigger than i expected to be, this is not really for me
*the qx100 i mean, the qx10 is quite a nice size.
the qx100 is about the size of the NEX 18-55 lens while the qx10 is around the size of the 16mm pancake
Memory stick micro
If this only takes a proprietary sony memory stick that would be a big mistake.
No one wants to be forced to buy sony memory stick instead of generic memory card.
When sony only had memory sticks in thier cameras i refused to even considet them. I didnt buy my first sony until the dual slot.
Under no circimstances will i ever buy a product that only takes a sony memory stick!!!
And, of course Barry, it doesn’t have a 50MP sensor.
I must have missed something that you sre seing.
I see no mention of 50mp in this post.
Perhaps your the one who is obsessed.
Backwards compatibility of MS is great. I recently bought a 16 GB MS duo card for a 2006 camera that came with a 128 MB card… It’s started a new life as an action cam 🙂
M2 (Memory Stick Micro) and MicroSD are very similar. Many card readers and even Sony devices can read/write to both.
(The card readers on our edit bays at work have a single slot for M2/MicroSD. This guy has a Sony phone that works with both: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr0X3zxsJcc )
So keep your fingers crossed that the Memory Stick Micro mentioned here is just for weight purposes, and it’ll use MicroSD as well.
I hope the new Action Cam is a part of the same family of products (mount and connectivity).
about that magnetic mount, nobody noticed that is impossible, there is no modern phone with steel back.
Hence the clip-on system we saw the last time. Or a case.
Hmm, just looked at the pic again, doesn’t look like a clip.
Since the announcement is coming around the time of the Honami phone, it’s possible (likely?) that the Honami comes with an internal magnet for the lenscams, while everyone else can use a clip. So that’s why you see a clip in some shots but not others.
Also: How powerful are the magnets for Qi chargers? Powerful enough for this? Maybe it’ll work with more.
The disc that clips onto the phone is steel.
That provides a magnetic surface and insulates the phone from the effects of the magnet.
There is a possibility that the use of a magnet will decrease the life of the display screen. Some phone repair people have rold me that but I do not know if it is true or not.
yep. would probably start seeing cases with metal backs coming soon for iphones/samsungs etc
The disc that clips onto the phone is steel.
That provides a magnetic surface and insulates the phone from the effects of the magnet.
There is a possibility that the use of a magnet will decrease the life of the display screen. Some phone repair people have told me that but I do not know if it is true or not.
Damage of the screen is also my fear, if unshielded. A metal back would make the phone much heavier.
so the mount is done some other way and you can see that in one of the leaked pics, its like a tripod mount for phones imo.
Interestingly no SD card slot pictured.
I sure hope that there’s a good chunk of memory on board, because transferring RAW shots ajd video over wifi is going to be slow…
Memory Stick Micro in specs.
I guess it must be on the back of the camera not illustrated.
It’s probably just like the AS15 I own, the slot on that takes MS Micro as well as Micro SD. Only MS would be a dumb mistake and quite the contrary of what we have seen on practically all modern Sony cameras that has dual type slots. But you cant be too sure…
The only thing stated in the spec is weight including battery and memory card. And it seems kind of natural that they chose their own card. Of course it has a dual slot as have all current Sony cameras.
This could be great, this could be a total failure, but you have to hand it to Sony, they are TRYING THING, I’d say, more so than the other guys.
+1.
I can forsee Samsung coming out with a copycat in a few months, like always 🙂
+1
Samsung is more innovative than you think. They will invent a magnet for plastics, so their customers can attach this thing to their galaxy models.
I agree, it’s just an exciting innovation. Sony is pushing the boundaries, and just made a new classification of electronics- that does not happen everyday. They saw the LCD was redundant and took away one more thing we do not have to carry around. Folks here are comparing this to their smartphones, but these are not going to have the distortions and limitations a smartphone camera has.
A good use for these lensors is to put the lensor on a monopd with a small ballhead a d the controling cellphone on the other end with sn elastic band.
Then you can photograph difficult to reach subjects or get closer to shy animals.
If Sony consider remote VF so important, then they should also give us tethering on A77 and others.
I would like to see this lensor work with other sony cameras as a cntrol devive also.
When I look at the expected price of the lens and the short life cycle of smartphones, I doubt many will buy it, especially when they are not absolutely sure that it will still work with the next generation of phones. Given that, a different control device such as a camera would make much sense and help to secure the investment for the future.
In fact, by separating the lens and sensor from the rest of the camera you ensure that your lens-camera has a longer life-span. No more complaining about lack of GPS, too small a display, display not readable in sunlight, lack of applications and in-camera filters, bad menu system, etc. You only need to upgrade this lens-camera when you want higher image quality, not when you want other features, because those come with your new phone and software updates.
Since this thing uses wifi (and NFC if the phone has it to establish protocol), why won’t it work with next generation of phones? If anything, the amount of devices that this works with (like glasses, watches, and other gadgets) will increase, not decrease.
It will work with phones 20 years in future, as wifi isn’t going anywhere.
Wifi or NFC are the methods how data is being transferred between lens and controller. In the end you will need some software to manage the controls. And this has to run on certain operating systems or certain web browsers. Fine, if this would be an open source project, but i am afraid it will be a proprietary sony thing. And nobody can assur it will work for any time in future
That’s a more valid point, but given newer versions of Android and IOS can run apps written for older versions, it will work, I say at least 10 years (most likely more).
Everybody is telling you small sensor compacts are a dying breed. Now, they put out exactly such a thing (at least one of them IS such a thing) and call it innovation.
So you call it “agony” ? 😉
I call it brainwashing 😉
i would had buy the QX10 if it had the new RS sensor found in new xperias, but old R nope.
and the QX100 only left behind the screen and some plastic, but everything (chip, lense, sensor, battery,etc) is in there plus wifi, nfc… so, sadly i xpect same price as rx100 (if not pricier)
SONY IS TARGETING THE UPSKIRT PHOTOGRAPHY MARKET SEGMENT!
best comment ever
too bulky even for that market segment 🙂
I wonder in which range it will work. Ideally one could configure longer range or power save/short range mode
Sorry if I missed this info, but I am wondering if these will only work with the new Sony Honami phone. If so, that would probably be a showstopper for me.
If camera is priority then get 1020 lumia, or 808
i can see futute for this lense-camera, if it’s ASP sensor with f2 to remain compact, something might be wow.
Sigh… I really don’t care about this news.
Can we please have some information about the A-mount mirrorless cameras (APS-C and 35mm FF)? Thanks.
Well you cared enough to comment. And caring is what counts.
Oh, bulky bulky QX100, just imagine sticking a NEX SEL1855 lens onto your slim slim phone and then extend it to zoom – what a frankenphone it becomes! 🙁 Why couldn’t they just cut out the nice slim lens-sensor barrel from RX100 without all the bulk? Perhaps, embed the circuit wafers between the optical elements of the lens to make it smaller somehow 🙂
The RX100 is 58mm thick. The QX100 is 55.5mm. It’s not like the RX100 had a lot of free space in there, and Sony’s (wisely) recycling the glass and sensor. So there’s no easy way to make it more compact and still be able to focus. It’s a matter of physics.
You want a big sensor? You’ve gotta have distance to the lens. You want a slimmer device? Get a smaller sensor and lens.
(And yes, Sony probably could have gone slimmer by ditching the zoom. I’m sure someone has mocked up what an RX1 version of this would look like. But then you’re looking at a market for a $2000 phone add-on. 🙂
Also: “Why couldn’t they just cut out the nice slim lens-sensor barrel from RX100”?
Because the lens extends INTO the camera body on the RX100. The round sticky-outy-bit is only the very tip of the lens. That’s why the total depth of the RX100 and QX100 are nearly identical.
Nope, that’s the height of the RX100. The depth of the RX100 is 35.9mm, or essentially the same depth as the smaller QX10 module. That’s what is so odd about this design. The RX100 would still be more pants pocketable than the QX100.
Yes, it is pocketable – RX100 is in my pocket right now, it fits alright 🙂
The only big problem I see with this is how long it will take to set this up. Unlike a camera that can power on straight away, you have to attach it to your phone, connect and pair and then shoot. Also the live wi-fi may be very laggy if my NEX-5r and wi-fi app is anything to go by.
So where’s the SD card slot? Is the picture captured with this lens will directly save on the smartphone’s storage?
They should put the basic functions of an old style mobile phone into the RX100 Mk3! (Phone, SMS, mp3-player, radio, note pad, calculator)
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Or include a complete small smart phone in the form factor of the RX-100 – that would be a much more interesting product!
The QX10 and QX100 are for people, who play with their smartphone all day long and need a good camera occasionally. I WANT IT THE OTHER WAY ROUND, SONY!!! The camera should be the important part!
If only there were some way to activate a flash, this would be an awesome product. A real game changer.
An interesting discussion is definitely worth comment. I think that you ought to publish more on this topic, it
may not be a taboo subject but typically people don’t talk about such issues. To the next! Cheers!!