Crash – FS700 SLOG2 test from TobyLoc on Vimeo.
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There is a NEX camera only a very few here on SAR own. But it’s a camera that can do things no other NEX can do. It’s the NEX-FS700 camcorder. Toby Lockerbie had the chance to preview of the new firmware upgrade for the Sony FS-700 and you can read more about it at Redsharknews (Click here). In short he says that “ISO2000 now looks like ISO640”! Now that’s the kind of firmware upgrade we would love to see on all Sony cameras…Obviously without that 500 Euro extra to pay 🙂
UPDATE: Our reader Peter Prevec (Click here) did some tests on FS700 with the new 3.0 firmware last week. High ISO noise and S-LOG2 vs. CINE4.
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yet people still say E-mount is not a professional mount
Every mount can be professional. We are just expecting professional lens.
With Metabones speedbooster, FS700 can produce high-speed footage with Canon Lenses.
That’s still weird!
why a speedboost adapter? its a full frame sensor!!
No, it’s a super 35 sensor, basically a wider m43 sensor but a little smaller than APS-C.
Thats not entirely true. In the motion picture industry traditionally ARRI PL-Mount is used though there are other mounts as ARRI-B or Mitchel BNC and B4 for 2/3″ and 1/3″ cameras. The differences between these mounts and Photographic mounts is that they provide a far tighter and more precise mounting. The reason for needing this is that cine Lenses tend to be far heavier then Photographic lenses (take Some of the Angenieux and Cooke zooms eg.). The other reason for this need of precision and tightness is the use of Follow focuses and the operation of focus pullers. If a lens wouldn’t sit tight you would see some ugly shake each time that the Focus-puller changes the direction as most mounts have a certain amount of play, spoiling the illusion for the viewer. (Also it is a common practice in cinema to pull focus by distance-marks and not trough display of the image. For this to be accurate the Lens and the mount have to be fitted in very precisely.)
However thanks to its short flange focal distance the E-Mount isn’t the worst choice as it can be adapted to a professional mount fairly well. E-Mount e.g. is a way better choice then the EF mount BMD put on the BMPC 4K, as the EF-Mount cant be properly adapted to PL due to the limited back clearance blocked by the mirror-box meaning that a lot of PL-Lenses won’t work with it.
it is, im really afraid emount will canibalize A mount 🙁
I think you should say “canon-balize” Sony Mount, whatever E or A mount. XD
Andre:
Enjoy the site! Can you please ask your sources about firmware update for A99, improvements such as start up time? Much appreciated.
J. LaPiana
Em, that was supposed to say:
Sony NEX-FS700 now gets S-Log2 via 500 euro firmware update. 😉
But somehow the 500 euro part wasn’t included 😛
I hope the fs700 will soon sell with this update.
What about the FS100? Common Sony. We want version 2 of the update!
+1
and enable power zoom control via lanc (ea50 can do that)
just wanted to ask:
is high fps mode still limited to just 3 seconds ?
Never heard of a three seconds limit. Depending on frame rate the FS700 records for between 8 and 23 seconds and I don’t think that the new firmware will change anything here.
I like how video reviews are often creative compared to the more practical still photography reviews of usually brick walls, books, and the closest person.
now comes the million dollar question – imagine Sony could do this kind of major improovement to the A77 / A99 noise performance. But – would charge you for that. Lets say – 100 EUR / USD. Would you buy it? I sure would as the noise performance is the only thing which I dont like on my A77.
Sure.
But think bigger. It could be a sales model for the future. You buy a camera body, and you can configure your firmware to your needs and pay for it (equally to cars, buy 100 or 300 horse power, electric seats, etc.)
I would not be happy paying for something that should have been in the initial firmware.
However, I bought the camera fully aware of the high ISO performance compared to the competition, preferring to have the flexibility of 24mpix and ISO50, so I would indeed pay 100 EURO to make it excellent at the other end of the ISO scale too.
I don’t actually shoot much at >800, I use fast glass, but it would be nice to have and it’s certainly cheaper than buying a new body. 😀
As said – think bigger.Imagine they would start a BTO concept
Just as an example:
Let’s say, the A99-Basic would be around 1.950,-
Then you have a feature list like ISO100-12800, ISO50-25600, Special Bracketing Options, JPegUltra+Raw Mode, BionZ, BionZ-HQ, Video up to 240fps, etc.
Or better, they would do the BTO including HW options.
I would love it to be able to choose what I need or want
In theory I do not like the option of paying for a firmware upgrade but for that type of added low(er) light performance I do not think that I would not mind as it would add a lot of flexibility for me. I am not holding my breath though.
Absolutely. Our gear is already built to last many years (especially the A700, A850, A900, A77 and A99) but the firmware is limiting the cameras. Spend more time on firmware, sell it for a couple hundred bucks every 6-12 months as needed. I’d love this way of doing business.
AND, they could even start reviving the old models. Like the A700, A850, A900. New firmware for these would be awesome!
Sony, fire half your camera designers, and hire more programmers! A new camera in each model line every 5-6 years as needed, with yearly firmware updates makes SO much more sense!
It will leak eventually, and someone will torrent it… just a matter of time… 500 euro seems way too much!
If you can afford such an expensive camera, you can afford a 500 EUR to boost its performance so signifficantly. You would not risk downloading a potentially flawed firmware which would brick your camera.
I agree, and I’d MUCH rather pay 500 euro upgrades incrementally over the life of my camera, then buy a new expensive camera every few years.
This is awesome news.
This is how it should be done. Kudos Sony!
Our gear can be upgraded a lot more than they let on. Its sad to see all these cameras neglected after just a few years and ending up in landfills.
More video camera news and rumours, please!?