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The A58 features a brand new sensor and you may check out the first image samples posted by Popphoto, Digitalcamerareview and DCfever to see if there is a noticeable image quality increase. I guess the A58 sensor has the same new tech as the soon to come new 24 Megapixel APS-C sensor of the NEX-7n. So let me know what you think about those images!
P.S.: Sony NEX-3N First Look at Digitalcamerareview.
US preorders:
Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 SSM A-mount lens at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and SonyStore USA (via AlphaCameraDeals).
Sony SLT-A58 at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and SonyStore USA (via ACDeals).
Black Sony NEX-3n at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and SonyStore USA (via ACDeals).
Silver Sony NEX-3n at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and SonyStore USA (via ACDeals).
DT 18-55mm at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here).
Sony 70-400mm at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and SonyStore USA (via ACDeals).
Sony HVL-F20 Flash at BHphoto (Click here).
Sony HX300 at Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
Sony TX30 Black at BHphoto (Click here).
Sony TX30 Orange at Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
Sony TX30 Pink at BHphoto (Click here).
Sony WX300 Black at Adorama (White!), BHphoto (Click here).
Sony WX300 RED at BHphoto (Click here).
Sony WX300 White at BHphoto (Click here).
And here are the European preorder links:
The Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 SSM can now be preordered at Wex UK.
The NEX-3n can now be preordered at Sony DE, Amazon DE, Sony UK, Wex DE, Wex UK, Sony FR, Sony IT, Sony ES, Sony NL, Sony SE.
The A58 can now be preordered at Amazon DE, Wex DE, Wex UK.
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On dcfever review, ISO-400 image looks much better than ISO-100 🙂
Not really. It looks as though it has been run through Sony’s rather heavy-handed jpeg noise reduction algorithm, unlike the ISO 100 and ISO 200 sample crops.
I was reading reviews on the NEX 5R and 6 and one of them mentioned about this phenomenon i.e 1/200 ISO is not as good as the Canikon’s but better from 400-1600.
Don’t know what’s going on, but it would be good to look at some RAW images.
Sensors can be optimized for a range of ISO.
You can make ISO 100 look absolutley perfect, and than obviously with higher ISO the image gets worse.
You can also make ISO 100 look bad, but ISO 800 will be almost the same.
This optimization towards higher ISO by Sony can be explained by the Translucent Mirror. The low ISO’s look “bad” but the high ISO’s can compete with other brands, even though the sensor is losing 1/3 of the light.
Maybe it’s something has to do with the sensor’s native ISO. My guess it’s high.
You can’t judge image quality from JPGs. For proper comparison, raw files need to be posted which people can download and print out. Or at least TIFFs with lossless compression (LZW).
INITIAL REVIEWS – Are Always HYPE and PAID For even with ADvertisings funding.
Lets WAIT for INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS
We rely on
QUALITY – The Third party Indpendent reviews help us make purchase determinations.
If SONY has nothing to hide – We ask them to get
Test Models with Production level firmware ASAP – to
Truely independent photography reviewers
We applaude the Reviews, Rankings and Ratings of
1) DXOMark sensor RATINGS –
2) DP REVIEW
3) FredMiranda.com
CAN YOU ALL THINK OF OTHERS REVIEWERS
How about it Gang ? Other sources are appreciated here.
We need
VALUE – In ALL our PHOTO Video equipment and software acquisitions.
We are looking for VALUE on Every Dollar spent, pre-analyze every Buck budgeted.
The Shutter is only going to last 200k max if not 100K
That gives us about 80 events at 2500 shots per event.
Comparitive Values of Products Offering Compared to other platform alternatives.
– NOT overpriced LENS offerings like SONY has been pushing.
QUALITY TRUELY INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY REVIEWERS
Help level the playing field for our VALUE determinations.
Your recommendations are appreciated.
THANKS
its quite easy to think of more
-Imagingresource
-Photoblographer
-Luminous landscapes
-dpreview as you mentioned
– Cnet isn’t terrible
there are others, those are off the top of my head.
Also Photographylife when they do Sony stuff have really great reviews
Cnet by nature is terrible, as are the Steve Huff’n’Puff reviews.
dPreview is bought by Amazon, and their reviews are as subjective as from all other resellers.
THANK YOU for sharing this –
We just found this disclosure buried –
“In 2007 Digital Photography Review was acquired by Amazon.com”.
WHAT SITES DO YOU RECOMMEND for independent reviews.
Thank You.
Objective reviews does not exist, all reviews contain subjective elements that you agree with or not.
Same old Sony iffy jpeg engine. Blow torch and candle wax.
A58 isn’t interesting in any way esp not for Sony users and it’s hardly going to dent Canikon sales either.
Let’s not forget about that proprietary new flash shoe too…
I stake you through the heart! How dare you talk such blasphemy! 🙁
Won’t work on original’s only normal vampires!
Should we not forget about the proprietary hotshoes on Canon and Nikon cameras as well? Or should we only not forget about the Sony one?
The nikon and canon hotshoez are supported by every third party producer you can think of. The new Sony hot shoe is not supported by anyone, there’s no flash trigger you could use natively on a99 and HVL-60. Sony doesn’t make any wireless trigger systems either
I’m certain that if you think really hard, you may be able to discover the reason why there is not much support for the new (hint) shoe. It has nothing to do with the proprietary-ness of said shoe (which is equalled by the shoes from all the majors).
Wrong the shoe is proprietary because of the front contacts prevent proper fitting on standard ISO shoe items such as radio triggers. Thus you have to file down the trigger shoe to fit properly. You can look at the shoe of the new Sony flash to see it is not the same as other makers.
“Wrong the shoe is proprietar” – which proprietary, a new one or an old one? Cause both hotshoes are proprietary.
If this is the sensor that will be used in the 7n, then I am afraid that there isnt much in the way to sway me from my 7 to a 7n. The potentially (because these are jpegs) 1/2 a stop better ISO rendition and better AF may not be enough to convince current owners, but it may convince potential newcomers (although anything that a 7n will be compared to now will be, in all probability, the now older Fuji’s and OM-D’s)
7s coming up soon?
ISO is everything, isn’t it?
The 7 has severe problems with resolution in image corners.
If Sony got that fixed with the 7n, then already this is a reason to change from 7 to 7n.
> The 7 has severe problems with resolution in image corners.
No. No, it doesn’t.
Yes. Yes it does.
No. No. Infinity +1 Googleplex +1.
Please link me an example or two of “severe resolution” issues (not color cast issues) which are not due to some particular lens deficiency.
It’s sensor deficiency, not lens.
Please check DxOMark and educate yourselves. NEX-7 has color-shifting with wide-angle lenses, there is no “severe problems with resolution in image corners.”
its a great deal though to be fair on WEX UK. Twin lens kit with the super sharp 55-200 for just £659? That’s gonna sell well i reckon
It’s strange that popphoto provide 18 pictures but no iso 1600 at all…
jump directly to very high iso :/
By the way and according the exif, this picture is an iso 1600: http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/assets/50507.jpg
I’m not impressed by this “new” sensor, sorry.
Aweful.
Thou shalt nott judge a sensor by a JPEG. It was written…
I see an improvement at high ISO, it tries to mimic a grain texture rather than a watercolor/mosh mess. It is better than my A77 does.
Not bad… Looks to do MUCH better than my a77 did…
If they wouldn’t have switched the Flash mounts I would have probably purchased one for my wife and let her use one of my 58 flashes when she needed to but there is no way Im buying a $600.00 camera, AND a $600.00 flash or use a faulty flash mount converter… No Thanks… Looks like Sony might have had something here for a 600.00 body but they messed that up again by switching the flash mount…
I agree. A major change like a hotshoe should have been introduced with a major camera lineup like the SLT line. The images look great and I’m excited about the focusing system but I’m not about to invest more money in replacing my flashes…even if their bodies are discounted. It’s just the inconvenience and the principal. It’s too bad.
Advancement with compromise is not evolution. I want evolution.
JPG out of every camera looks pretty much the same nowadays… lest you pixel peep. Same with the RAWs.
No.
Until we see some RAWs, this means nothing. I’m not interested in what the camera is doing to its jpegs, I’m interested in what its sensor is actually seeing.
better jpg engine perhaps..anyway, a side by side comparison would be welcome..both a57 and a58 with THE NEW KIT LENS!
Looks good to me if the nex-7n is as good as my nex-6 or close I will be getting it.
It shouldn’t be too hard, the NEX-7 is already better than the NEX-6, check DXOMark 😉
Try import the RAW’s from the 6 and the 7 into LR and see for your self, the difference in high ISO’s should be negligible.
If they could make the noise grain look better on the 7N, then that would be a nice accomplishment.
“I guess the A58 sensor has the same new tech as the soon to come new 24 Megapixel APS-C sensor of the NEX-7n.” – why are we even discussing this in a context of NEX? 7n will have completely different sensor with a different pixel count.
@Admin: I’d be delighted if NOT EVERY discussion would NEED to go down to the NEX level.
Cheers!
Agreed completely. Nex is one part of our system, but for me the less interesting.
+1. The nex trolls don’t need feeding.
Burp! More, please.
Judge on jpeg files? Admin, are you serious?
of course not a real final judgment. But you can see if there is some kind of improvements on the JPG output!
The shots look fantastic, specially at hi iso (3200). Very impressed.