On March 13th Sony will announce the A57 and it will cost $699 (body only). The camera will ship in April. That’s $200 less than the Sony A65 ($899 on Amazon). The only major differences withe the A65 are the lower resolution viewfinder and 16 Megapixel sensor. The design is 99% the same of the A65 pictured here on top.
One more thing: With the new splitting-up announcement strategy Sony decided to introduce the A37 some times after the A57. NEX and camcorders are also coming within the next two months.
Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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What about a low-price a77? That would have been great, specially because of the articulated LCD.
That’s the A65.
Best SLT deal yet. A77 owners should have remorse. I would but I didn’t fall for it. Neener neener.
end of line.
why should one who has a A77 should have remorse? A77 is weather sealed, bigger, has two control wheels an articulated screen, way more resolution, higher DR and what’s most important: a better viewinder. It’s worth the money.
So it is more or less like an a55 but bigger and heavier. Doesn’t sound like the best SLT yet.
Agreed. I thought the whole point of the A55 was it being compact.
Yes, but that role is easily fullfilled by the A3X series, and there were many comments on the too small grip of the A3X and A55. At least that’s (going to be) solved.
But the A65 already serves those wanting a slightly larger body.
Agreed, but in my opinion there is room for a cheaper and larger body between the current A35 and A65. The price will also be better than the A65, which is good. I can imagine lots of (entry-level) people want a bigger body, but at a better price. Compared with Nikon’s D3XXX, D5XXX and D7XXX lineup an A57 would fit the D5XXX range, whereas the current A55 is comparable with the D3XXX range, considering body size.
+1 seeky
but the thing is, we don’t need another a37. let the a57 be the entry level dslr. it just makes buying decisions too confusing. if a consumer is in the market for buying the cheapest DSLR/DSLT camera, they will put down their budget to $500-$700. if the a37 is a $100 cheaper than the a57, but less features, still it give the buyer too much questions to answer. less price less features or just add a $100 for better features? they could say, “i’m not sure/confused on what i’m getting.. i think i’ll look at the canon t4i at least there’s nothing more to look into.”
sony’s competing within themselves for an entry-level dslr. they should discontinue the a3x line and only a5x line for entry-level, a6x entry-level 2, a7x semi-pro, a8x pro FF, a9x flagship pro FF.
The problem isn’t the number of models, it’s the high price of the A3x series.
I can not recommend a Sony camera to a new starter, the Canon 1100D is too cheap.
MCP is just an adorable troll.
I feel sorry for you… actually feeling sorry for you is too much effort.
A77 AEB mode with +/- 3EV without touching the camera and AF micro tuning feature are worth the extra money for me alone.
Very intelligent constructive comments as usual MCP. You claim you’re not here to chuck sh&% and prefer intelligent discussion, yet here you are again continuing to be childish.
Neener neener to you to.
Best, deal. Deal with that. You can’t you already put your money down, and lost the bet. Hungry? Want a HURTS-Donut??? 🙂
A57 is the best deal for the cash- nothing you can say or do about that fact. Better image quality for most users, absolutely much better price, better buffer, better batt life, HAHAHAHAHA.
Oh man you suckers. A77 suckers!!
end of line.
well 🙂 do you also take pictures? 😉
End of intelligent conversation.
MCP do you have any pictures or video we can see?
Medication!!! Take it now!!!!
hahaha. now that’s a good one.
@MCP I really value your input, but it obviously starts to annoy some people. Please try to think before you crank out off topic nonsense. Annoying people isn’t a virtue.
Since the A57 isn’t available yet, it isn’t a deal and thus not the best deal either.
You must be the only one here to value MCP’s input then!
It’s just my strategy to calm someone down, I mean that I actually believe he is able to say good things, but until now his comments are immature. However, I encourage him to add something useful to the discussions.
Spoil-sport. 😉
A77 now low price http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005O8KJ2M/ref=pe_27961_29100481_pe_vfe_dt1
I bought mine for that last year.
Any thoughts on how the new Olympus five axis image stabilization will compare to Sony SteadyShot Inside, particularly in terms of video? I know the SteadyShot crops an additional 1.2 which is kind of a bummer. But I wonder which will provide smoother footage. Obviously we need some tests but any preliminary thoughts on if they’re basically equal or if one might be better than the other?
The crop is no problem to me, since there is a possibility to show a rule of thirds lines overlay, including marks indicating the cropped frame.
In terms of video, it is likely that Sony will apply electronic stabilization like in the A65/77 in stead of mechanical Super Steady Shot. Direct comparisons are the best way to show the differences, but I haven’t seen that yet.
That is an amazing DROP IN PRICE!!!
low-price a77 = a65
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if it is better than the a55 and costs about the same = sure winner
i think that it will beat the low costs options of nikon / canon (feature-wise for the money) like the a65, a77 and nex-5/7 already did – great job
does it use the AF of the a65?
does it have a batteriegrip?
whats with the ISO stops?
can you say something about this three oints
3… 2… 1… And here comes the SLT dissing trolls…
Yes… we know Canon 5D m3 and Nikon D800E are out. Give us some new humor. LOL.
700$. I hope that doesn’t stands for 700€.
just 699€ 😉
lol!
Admin, U are rumor King
Love the pricing… Hope Sony doesn’t again decide to increase it though… at the last minute! 😉
agreed…the a77 was rumored to sell cheaper than D7000..but im lucky to get one at a bargain price..
a57 at $699 is a good move..bring another cheaper body please..i want to buy one for my 3 years old daughter
The more I think about it, it would be unlikely that Sony would use 99 in the name for the a99.
The next model would be a100
Sony will name the full-frame if it ever is made a shipped something like a95
no…the next model after a99 will be a99x,,a99y…a99z…LOL
If they follow their previous trends after the A99 will be the A9 not A100. Who knows after that, there isn’t a precedence set. Maybe A9X A1X who knows?
Maybe the a97, since we’re getting all these ax7 models.
true..hmmm but a97 doesnt sound pretty..
Sony, please fix the a77 high ISO noise with firmware update first.
The A77 high ISO is fine.
Many people here would ask; “what do you need high ISO for anyway?” 😉
Duhh? Wedding, concerts, taking pictures at night. There’s tons of scenario where your gonna need high iso with minimum noise.
its a miracle you don’t have to shoot film. you’d be fucked.
Up to ISO3200, A77 is terrific. With ISO6400 you have to be very careful with exposure.
im ok with a77 noise..overexposing a bit, then i get a fine noise free even at high iso
Yes, we’ll many have said that photogs that are “obsessed” with high ISO shooting are just CaNikon trolls. Hey,….the A77 gave you two things, PDAF and 24mp. That’s all that you need to be concerned about.
btw,…this is not me. It’s others that keep saying it. Lol….in fact, oddly enough, some get really upset when the ISO performance topic is brought up.
My God, don’t EVEN bring up translucent material. Woah, people get horribly offended if that comes up, 😉
@ Solo LMFAO, so true!
Yeah, these people who complain about high ISO are simply ridiculous.
I used my friend’s A77 (in addition to my A55) for a concert at The Commodore in Vancouver, Canada. With the A77 I used my Rokinon 85mm f1.4 for the entire evening… shot in manual mode with ISO locked at 1600… here are the results:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150681130541138.452321.616061137&type=1&l=051113f572
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150681502141138.452376.616061137&type=1&l=806283ca97
I have no complaints about the A77. If people think that they can find a camera with ALL THESE FEATURES that works as well THEN GO BUY IT… or go DESIGN/MANUFACTURE your own… but stop complaining about the A77 and want it can’t do… when the people who own or use one can attest to what it can do.
in weddings you need 1600 or 3200 with a fast lens, maybe 6400 with a f2.8.
the A77 is more than good enough at those settings
@Andrew, so your wedding clients view their images as 100% crops or as billboard posters then…?
EM5 a M43 is par with 5n in high ISO! a77…..
..is even better!
Are we really still debating this? The A77 is not a camera build for low light. It can do ISO 3200 without any problems – and it can actually do 6400 fine too – as long as you dont underexpose. This image, as I have posted before, is done with ISO 6400. It is perfectly usable – but you have to know how to expose, since the noise (and that goes for ALL cameras) will be in the shadows. And you have to know how to use Lightroom or other post-processing tools if you shoot RAW. You can never expect a RAW to be perfect out of camera. That is not the point of the RAW-file – it is …. raw! It has to be “cooked”.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adambindslev/6506673203/in/photostream
Yeah, looks OK at 800×533. Seriously, what’s the point at that resolution?
What resolution does your viewing audience view their images at then? It is what your audience sees, not what you pixel peep, that matters…
Do car manufacturers make cars with more and more horsepower, which nobody ever will use anyway?
No, they make cars safer, more comfortable, more reliable, more convenient, more economic.
What does Sony do? They increase megapixels to numbers that nobody needs anyway (as you state yourself).
At they same time the cameras lack useful features like AF adjustment (e.g. A65), suffer from UI slowness, bad low-light performance, …
IMHO, this is going into the wrong direction.
Your analogy is flawed. 😉
Where I live car manufacturers limit engine size and output for tax, insurance and fuel economy reasons. Customers can not afford to run them as the government taxes the hell out of them.
If there were no cost implications for the customer you can bet that there would be a horsepower race amongst car manufacturers.
If governments introduced a tax for high mega pixel cameras, you can also bet they wouldn’t exist…
Who for God sake call this “iso 6400 test”?
Just to add to your post , Adam, I shoot shows and here is a Series at Iso 5000 ( Yes 5000 because the window is very very tight for error at 6400)
http://goo.gl/VCHi4
And here 3200
http://goo.gl/v6DMq
http://goo.gl/OgI3W
all with minor NR in LR3 , I low the RAW explanation ! And also exposure is the key ! Cheers !
Phil
What’s the advantage over A55? Big and heavy is not an advantage.
“NEX and camcorders are also coming within the next two months”
“Camcorders?”…..with an “s”???
What the hell?
Very Good price for the technology.
I will buy the A57 as toy camera !! 😉
So from what we hear so far, I can come to the conclusion that the differences between A57 and A55 are slightly better EVF, better heat management in video (hopefully), and bigger/heavier body. It may be sensible for someone who are new to the SLT line of cameras to get one, but for an existing A55/A35 owner, probably not.
A55/A33 the only thing worth noting is the sensor used to heat up and stop you from recording video with SteadyShot. Not sure if A35 fixed that.
A35, 65 and 77 has already fixed that long ago. Hae u been reading or using sony products btw?
I have an A77. I know it’s fixed there. I also had an A33 but I just sold to fund my A77. So I wasn’t too aware about the A35 if it addressed that issue. But thanks, appreciate it. At least I learned something new unlike some other trolls providing no meaningful discussion to the rest of us.
I reckon you hit the nail, the A57 will be a release to fix the heat issue. It’ll have the electronic stabilisation used in the A77.
Oh, I forgot to mention the manual controls in video and 1080p AVCHD format on the A57 if you are into video for the SLT cameras.
A55 has 1080p. It is just not 60fps.
Its a shame because with the swivel screen of the A33 A55 A65, once it’s on tripod you can’t tilt it down to face the front. The A77 screen can tilt up to face the front when on tripod and is more useful! Why Sony keeps that crap design of the A65 swivel screen is a mystery. All screens should use the A77 design, it’s good and why not use the good design on all newer models? I don’t think it’s much more expensive.
It’s a complex mechanism so probably is a bit more expensive. It’s also a differentiator between models.
Something has to be different, or we would all just buy the cheapest model. 🙂
Great! Finally something lighter with a vertical grip available again.
Make sense as A35 is very new. Hopefully it accept A5xx grip, so I can reuse mine.
Sony’s doesn’t even sell the A35 in lots of countries like Japan, right now the A65 is the lowest model.
I am still disappointed that Sony has not figured out this high ISO issue as well as the weak video time performance. I hope that with these new models there is actual improvement, but I am not seeing that there really is. It is a marketing trick. No wonder Sony is losing money.
What do you expect in terms of ISO? What are you shooting?
And what do you mean “weak video time”?
I guess the A57 will use Sony’s 16.1MP sensor from the NEX-5N so I expect it to better than 2010’s 16.2MP sensor from the A55.
Well let’s see how this pans out. I still think Sony has too many models and needs to focus on just a few, like A65 and A77 for SLT. It’s important for SLT to gain EVF acceptance and firmware mature rather than sell gimped versions to cover price points. This is the perfect time to excel in marketing and strategy since Nikon’s can’t be found in stock and Canon hasn’t released a crop body in a while. Those two brands are busy on full frame for now.
Same goes for the NEX series. With these and SLT, Sony is on the cutting edge. Also, the new 16-50 demonstrates better lens design capabilities than in the past, so put that to use on NEX before the G1X eats into the market. At some point the tech needs to converge and the mirror go away. Sony has good stuff, but they are their own worst enemy.
Sony has great engineers, but really needs better leadership.
You think the A37, A57, A65 and A77 is too many models?
You do realise the A37 and A57 replace previous models?
I think the A77 and A65 are great cameras that are innovative and allow users to shoot in a better more flexible way than traditional DSLRs. I would not settle for anything less than great if I were Sony. Let the NEX be the lower priced products.
Nope, A3x and A5x users want dSLR sized bodies, AF performance and A-mount. A NEX-3 isn’t going to give you that.
Sony needs to shock the world and do an OVF DSLR again. Screw SLT it’s pointless and impractical- degrading, stupid.
Sony look like such amateurs using a semi-transparent mirror- desperate amateurs- greedy desperate amateurs :).
A900 A850 A700 A100 and even the A580- MUCH better cameras.
end of line.
get a life
+1 trillion.
MCP, maybe you should once shock this community here with a constructive comment!
evf (like the one in the A65/77) is a deal maker for one particular think for me:
focus peaking with manual lenses, all of them!
this is also why the nex system is pretty cool as well. find an old lens, get an adaptor and away you go!
can’t wait to get my A77, hopefully during the sony event in glasgow for which I have an invite!
I’d trade an ovf for an evf on a heartbeat for this.
I have my A77 set to drop into manual focus after it has auto-focused. Focus peaking is excellent.
yup, i have it permanently on DMF/AF-A with peeking active, this way i have a perfect visual control of what the camera is focusing on; while predominantly simply shooting in AF i can simply override manually if i am not happy). EVF rocks 🙂
That’s the one, I couldn’t think of the setting. 😀
Hi MCP,
Which camera would you like to have?
Have you bought that camera yet?
Life to short to not get what you want,
so what do you want?
/E
He’s a tool who gets his kicks from winding people up. Probably dreaming of his first P&S.
“All right, lets do this…. ”
“LEEEROOOOY…… MMMmmmm JENKINNNNNNSSSS!!!”
You Sony fans are such insecure nerds, I’m the Leroy Jenkins breaking up your nerd fanboy party.
A77 sucks! Way overpriced. Sony is big time raping everybody! It will be half price in less than 2 years…
end of line.
Figures… you are a World of Warcraft trade chat troll.
It doesn’t sink any lower than that… Being hated in real life and being hated in your virtual life.
The A77 is FAR superior to the A700, I have both.
wonder what A37 will be ? Probably an A35 in the body of A57, but as both already have the 16MP, how to differentiate both ? Fixed display, the old 14MP or even lesser EVF than A57 makes no sense! The OVF would be an argument to put a model before A57 but then if would be named A600 ! Anyway what would be the risk to give us such an A600 for €500 ? The EVF fan wouldn’t change mind and still buy A57, A65 or A77 ! But all those happy A100-A580 users would probably upgrade and not drift away to NiCan. So in my opinion Sony can only win while offering an A600, even if it would not fit into the leading direction, at least it wouldn’t make conservative users like me jump off ship.
We must repeat that until Sony give us an OVF back 😉
“Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam”
A37: I think an A35 with articulated screen…
As the A55 disappeared…
…and yet destroying Carthago just delayed the inevitable death of the Roman empire 🙂 … so OVF dies too sooner or later ?
But it will not.
What I miss in my A55 is AF micro adjust, an EVF from A77 and perhaps a swivel LCD. None of that is coming with A57, so I’ll stick to what the one I already own – it still produces very decent pictures…
Sell the A55 now before the price drops, put the money from the A55 sale, plus the difference you may have spent on the A57 towards the cost of a A77 body.
You will not regret a bit of hard saving you have to do to get to it.
I simply can’t understand, why so many people believe, that “lots of MP” means “lots of IQ”.
“Finer” resolution is only one part of IQ. But with increasing MP you run earlier into diffraction effects. Diffraction ONLY depends on pixel pitch, it’s a physical effect of all sensors. It doesn’t depend on sensor type, camera brand, lens type or anything else. The smaller the pixels are in size, the earlier you will SEE diffraction effects on stopping down. 24 MP at APS-C mean, that diffraction becomes visible even at f/6.4…!
Have a look at this site for instance, it’s perfectly explained there and includes a diffraction calculator: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm
German readers may also have a look here:
http://www.natur-portrait.de/blog/beugung-und-forderliche-blende
I wrote that article for the users of the “natur-portrait” page, where you can find several thousands of HQ nature pictures. So it might be interesting for english readers as well.
If one takes only images at high ISO already full open (for weddings,…), he/she may never run into that problem, but on my way of photography I very often need higher f-stops. That’s the reason, why I never would buy a camera like the A77. I will leave the Sony APS-C-line and plan to buy the A99. And I definitely wouldn’t buy a FF camera with 36 MP or even more – for the same reason!
In my eyes a “A75” (A77 with the sensor of the A57) would make much more sense and could replace the A65. But maybe the A57 is the first of a new camera line, where pixel counting isn’t all… Let’s hope for the future.
Yes, all the lens imperfections – diffraction included – will be magnified the more resolution there is in the sensor. What you fail to take in to account is that even if diffraction is present, downscaling 24MP to 16MP will give you identical amount of diffraction. 24MP is no worse than 16MP.
You simply cannot compare 1:1 pixels of 24MP and 16MP APS-C sensor pictures, whether it’s diffraction or ISO noise. You have to count the pixel-size of the image in to make such comparison.
So what’s the point of higher MPs if it doesn’t give you better quality? The point is that higher MP will give you better pictures when diffraction and/or high ISO are *NOT* the limiting factors. I can guarantee that no 16MP camera will take such pictures that I take with my A65+SAL35F18 (ISO100 @f5.6 – sweet spot of the lens).
If on the other hand you take ISO3200 picture @f16, then you’d most likely see little if any improvement using higher MP sensor (assuming same size), but the limiting factors would *look* worse since you have more resolution to see them.
Good photographers know the limits of their gear and, when possible, make adjustments to the scene to get the parameters to meet the requirements.
Yes, Cron, I agree with you – the limiting factor is pixel pitch/pixel size, as I stated above. The larger the pixel size, the less is diffraction and the more photons get into each single pixel. Both is positive for IQ, the first for less blur, the second for better signal/noise-ratio.
In my opinion it doesn’t make much sense to downscale a 24 MP image afterwards for less diffraction. The pixel size of the A77/A65 is 3.9µ compared to my A700 with 5.5µ. The A99 will have about 6µ.
That are the reasons, why I prefer not to have such limiting side-effects. There are several others, too. Quality of lenses for instance. There are not so many in the Sony/Minolta line, which can deliver that resolution required by a 24 MP sensor in APS-C size, especially in the wide angle and super wide angle range. Fortunately I know the pros and cons of my old Minolta goodies like the 200/2.8 APO (no neg. at all), 35/2.0 (almost none), 28-135/4-4.5 (severe purple fringing), 135/2.8 (not quite sure, if good enough at 24 MP)… I even use a “dinosaur” – Carl Zeiss-Jena Flektogon 50/f4 Pentacon Six lens manually on a tilt adapter (excellent!) BTW.: This lens and some others are one of the reasons, why I’m not “afraid” of the EVF…
About 36mp. It can’t be the same reason, becase it’s like 16mp crop. You see visible diffraction on 5N or A580 till f8?
36 MP FF has about the same pixel size as 16 MP APS-C with 1.5 crop factor. So diffraction will become visible at f/8 on both. But I will never see it, because I have none and will never have one of these cams.
Have a look at all professional cams. They all have 12-16 MP FF. Not more. Why? Professionals need maximum IQ (plus some other points like speed, etc.)
“Have a look at all professional cams. They all have 12-16 MP FF. Not more. Why? Professionals need maximum IQ (plus some other points like speed, etc.)”
…or maybe it’s because CaNikon haven’t given them higher pixel counts yet…you are making the rather large assumption that professionals don’t want high pixel full frames.
Simply ask a professional for his needs…!
If a pro photographer would need more MP than CaNikon produce, he would certainly buy a semiprofi case with more MP and CaNikon couldn’t sell so many pro cases! Both Canon and Nikon listen very carefully for the needs of their clients. Do you feel Sony does the same?
You miss the point, they haven’t previously had the technology to produce high MP full frame, it isn’t because pros don’t want them!
I’m sorry, but you are definetely wrong.
You might know, that Nikon sensors are produced by Sony.
Nikons D3x had (because it will be replaced soon) a 24.5 MP sensor, the D3s only 12MP.
The new Nikon D800/800E as a semi pro cam will get the new Sony 36MP FF sensor. In my eyes the wrong way.
The newest pro model D4 will replace both the D3s and D3x and has only 16MP!
Canon since about 4 years has a 21 MP sensor – they use it in a semi pro model (5D MkII), the new 5D MkIII will have only slightly more – 22.3MP.
Even Canon had pro models with 21MP, the 1Ds Mk III and the 1D MkIV (I know, with another crop factor).
But their new pro model 1Dx will in the future replace both old lines and gets only 18 MP!
Both brands reduce the resolution of their pro models compared to the second one (semi pro) model. So please don’t try to tell me, they couldn’t use bigger sensors for pro cases, because they have none… 😉
If a profi photographer needs more resolution, he takes middle format. All middle format cams like Hasselblad, Pentax and Leica have a pixel pitch of at least 6µ – for best IQ and here we are again at my starting point….
$699 body only? The T2i is $499 body only. I know that in most respects this will probably be a far superior camera- though with Magic Lantern the T2i is no slouch. But the point is, Sony thinks they can price their gear at relatively high prices and still be able to eat into Canikon market share. They can’t. I’m not saying this A57 will not be decent value. But Sony cameras used to be GREAT value. As long as they maintain this premium product pricing strategy they will make little headway as far as their DSLRs are concerned. Maybe they’ve decided to let the Nex fill the needs of entry level consumers and all DSLRs from here on out are going to be expensive. I think they’re making a mistake. I’m pulling for Sony. But they really need a decent sub-$500 DSLR.
+1
We need a Sony priced below the 1100D, the trouble is that you’d have to strip a lot out of the A3x to get it.
However I thought that the whole point of EVF was that it was CHEAPER to make? That’s the bit I don’t understand…
exactly ! That’s also the point with all the mirror-less system-cams. You strip a lot of expensive components, you end up with a size and material quantity similar of a compact cam, but because of the bigger sensor you think that it is justified to ask a price 2-3 times higher than an entry DSLR. Nex lenses are more expensive than many FF models from Sigma. I can’t belief that people are that stupid not to realize how the hole cam-industry is stealing consumer’s money at the moment ! Justifying this fact with flood in Thailand is silly, how many plants are driven around the world by Sony? And just because one has a problem, prices are rising …haha
Which (comparable) NEX lenses are more expensive than FF Sigma models? The only money companies get is the money consumers give freely, not by stealing. The electronics market is a free market, so you decide how to spend an amount of money. You have to realize that the mirrorless market is a relatively new market, and grows fast.
It is reasonable that a mirrorless camera with smaller dimensions and equal image quality compared to DSLRs are more expensive than those DSLRs, since it has a size advantage. However, I do understand your objection: the consumer is actually paying more for less. But you have to look at it the other way around: smaller size is considered to be an advantage (=more), so you pay more.
Bottomline: you get what you pay for. Conclusion: your opinion is not the opinion of the average mirrorless camera buyer :-). Certainly, you have other preferences compared to mirrorless camera buyers.
Note that certain products (like electronics) are not designed to be cheaper, which is one of your assumptions. Most products are designed to be profitable for the producer.
About the NEX lenses: I almost bought a NEX because of the lenses. Compare those lenses to A-mount lenses: NEX lenses have silent focus and aperture motors, aluminum alloy bodies and allow DMF. Any idea how expensive A-mount lenses are with those features….?
tell it what you want, mirrorless cams are just overpriced !
About popular lenses, just one example to make clear what I was talking about:
€383 NEX Sony SEL 55-210mm F4,5-6,3 -> http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005JZ7YWS/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
these all are typical starter zoom lenses and I doubt the one for NEX is the best 😉
€262 FF Sigma 70-300mm F4,0-5,6 DG OS -> http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B002M3SOR4/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=photo&psc=1
€319 FF Tamron SP70-300mm F4-5.6 Di USM -> http://www.amazon.de/Tamron-SP70-300-4-5-6-Objektiv-Kameras/dp/B003YUBTJ4/ref=pd_sim_ph_1
with respect, BLabla, the lenses you just compared are pieces of shit.
shit happens 😉 and people start with low cost lenses. In any store over here you can find these bundles of body & 12-55 & 55-250 or similar. They are selling well and even NiCan offer such bundles. I don’t belief that consumer bodies are often bought with Zeiss glasses, but anyway the point was that even heavy FF lenses are less expensive than these tiny ones for NEX and this can be foreseen for higher quality lenses too, when they will come one day for NEX, unfortunately E-mount is yet far away from A-mount in quantity and quality of choice and that is why I clam that mirrorless systems are overpriced (not only the Sony ones)
I take it the A57 is supposed to inherit the AF system from the A65 right?
At some point in time I think I’ve read it was supposed to inherit the AF system from the A77 which would be really sweet but seems all the more unlikely.
I thought there was some rumours of it getting a better AF system than the A65. I didn’t see the point in a 5 series though, it’ll be the A65 one.
A65 uses the same AF system as the A55.
HK will have announcement on 15 March. And there will be new alpha lens announce with the camera
Why do OVF lovers still read SAR? Sony Alpha is for EVF lovers?
Glory, glory EVF!
:p
Now you’ve gone and done it, you’ve rattled Walt’s OVF cage.
I meant:
Why do OVF lovers still read SAR? Sony Alpha is for EVF lovers!!!!
Glory, glory EVF!
:p
Sony OVF users still read SAR, because their system is A mount Sony. Even if Sony has forgotten a whole bunch of it’s customers, at least some of us supported them by buying a whole system of OVF camera, Sony A mount lenses, Sony flashes and so on. Did folks think out excellent OVF system went up in a puff of purple smoke when Sony went running off courting only EVF/Video folks? No, they are still excellent cameras.
“Did folks think out excellent OVF system went up in a puff of purple smoke when Sony went running off courting only EVF/Video folks?”
Perhaps not, but the way that you mump, moan and whine at every turn, one could be forgiven for thinking that was the case.
If the EVF is fundamentally the same as the A33/55 albeit in full screen mode it will not be a particularly good camera experience IMHO. It will still suffer the horrible tearing of the previous generation.
Post after post i see many of you still answer
MCPs posts. He never answers your requests or questions … You all still don’t get it – he’s desperate for attention what he can inly get online if he throws in some lines of “wisdom” .
Just ignore him, i think that it will help him grow up and think a bit more and will save you tons of endless discussions.
Thank you
MCP is a toy we all like to play with, we know what we are doing. 😉
From what I read, he’s pretty much owned a lot of you, doesn’t seem like you know what you are doing or saying.
OTOH some posters here have some real insight- I avoid the hardcore fans because their bias is completely obvious.
It sucks to have to sift through the fanboy and MPC or whatever his name is posts just to find some real good information, both of you are equals here in my opinion. Takes two to tango as they say.
I’ve been looking at Sony for some time but I’m not so sure I’m sold on them yet, going to keep watching for a bit.
Please offer good information you can back up so readers like me who are normally quiet can actually learn something.
Thank you/Porkins
Post after post i see many of you still answer
MCPs posts. He never answers your requests or questions … You all still don’t get it – he’s desperate for attention what he can inly get online if he throws in some lines of “wisdom” .
Just ignore him, i think that it will help him grow up and think a bit more and will save you tons of endless discussions.
Thank you
Post after post i see many of you still answer
MCPs posts. He never answers your requests or questions … You all still don’t get it – he’s desperate for attention what he can inly get online if he throws in some lines of “wisdom” .
Just ignore him, i think that it will help him grow up and think a bit more and will save you tons of endless discussions.
Thank you
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