Samyang released a new lens designed for ASP-C system cameras and it will come with native MFT mount too. It’s the 10mm f/2.8 ED AS NCS CS lens and will ship from January. Full press release and image samples (on APS-C cameras) can be seen at Samyang-europe.com.
And this is the official video:
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It just has me wondering what a native 10mm f2.8 lens would look like 🙁
No Native….No Buy.
I totally get that viewpoint, but there’s a silver lining.
I would actually get this because it’s APSC. With good quality APSC lenses, a speed booster makes a lot of sense – if you don’t mind the weight.
This will become 7mm F2.0 with the speed booster.
so they will make a 7mm one for micro for third because it crop factors by 2 so this lens changes, that is cool. Way better than on the DSLR cameras.
610g on m43. SLR lens unfortunately.
Looks like a huge lens on an M43 camera and also a narrower FOV, but there is something to be gained too. The sample images look a little bit soft at the edges of the frame. So, it should be just fine for M43 sensors that use the central portion of the image. Big and heavy, but if Samyang keeps its price low as usual, it could be a nice cheap lens in the classic 21mm FL.
Finally a prime with this FOV! Good news for M43. Samyang, like Sigma, offers cheaper M43 lenses, just what M43 needs.
At a mere 620grams you’ll enjoy carrying this beast everywhere 😉
You might as well get the EF mount, they’re all manual focus, the EF is lighter, and slap an adaptor on it. At least easier to sell when you are tired of it.
And how do you adjust the aperture on that EF lens with no electrical connections?
I would turn the manual aperture ring on the manual lens
Like!
WOW! Imagine that! 😉
and what lens do you pair with your new EF mount to get something with an equivalent focal length???? hmmm???? 10mm on m43 is pretty wide.
Look I realise you think I’m insulting micro four thirds because I mentioned something to do with Canon, but I’m not, I myself am a micro four thirds user and booster. Samyamg is making this 10mm lens, designed for APSC DSLRs and then it is attaching many different mounts to the bottom of the exact same lens. I was merely making the point that the EF version is lighter than the micro four thirds version, due to its mount, will work perfectly well on you M43 camera with an adaptor. And if it came time to sell the lens second hand there would be a stronger market for this type of big heavy lens amongst Canon APSC DSLR users than there would micro flour thirds users, who, as you can see from the comments below, are less than impressed with this offering from Samyang.
ahh.. ok. I see your point and it’s quite valid. I was also just trying to get you to point me in the direction of a cheaper alternative 😉
hhmmm… but the difference in weight is only 30 grams… add the adapter and its pretty close to the same weight.
read the second half of his post…………….
but is is a 7mm lens for Micro for thirds, because of crop factors, which is cool, no mirrors.
Nice. Price?
Price : 499 €.
Olympus M. Zuiko Digital ED 12 mm f/2.0 : 700 €. One more stop. f 2 mm less wide. 130 g. AF.
… and in silver :).
False, there’s also a black version. I have found the limited black version at the same discount price. Not that IQ changes..
I thought black was limited edition and hard to find…
Keep up with things instead of stuck in dogmas 🙂
12mm is not the same as 10mm. Those 2mm matters.
12mm and WA converter then?
Which wide converter is good with 12mm Oly?
I agree that 2 mm wider is not equivalent but the price in term of weight is too high.
One can also consider the 7-14 and 9-18 zooms. They are one stop darker but lighter, wider, with AF…
MZD 9-18 4-5.6, 155 g, 56.5 mm diameter x 49.5 mm length, ~500 €.
Samyang 10-2.8, 560 g, 77 mm length, 500 €
Too big. Too heavy. No cheap (with af confirm/focal length/lens name…) for (µ)43 🙁
wow.. that’s big… that’s the aps-c contamination…. ;(
looks like 2 to 3 times bigger than the oly 12/2…
Not just APSC contamination, but APSC DSLR contamination, that bloody flapping mirror box makes flange distance UGE!
for all to have overview where is m43
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange_focal_distance
It will be a 7.5mm f2.8 for mft to have the same 35mm equiv as a 10mm on APS-C 🙂
No
Andrei please go and sit in the corner and think about what you’ve just said, it’s not funny, and we don’t want to start a long boring conversation on equivalence and lens design. Please go now.
Nope. It will be exactly 10mm on MFT.
Use it with the Speedbooster and voile, you get a 7mm f/2 lens ! (equivelent to 14mm)
Damn straight… perfect for starlapse shooting.
Unless you have an E-M1……. 🙁
Shushhhh, you’re not allowed to say that around here, you’ll get in trouble
You couldn’t have been more correct, I will try to learn from this 😉
What problem with e-m1?
Er Hem, nothing, nothing at all, Steve Huffs (google) Camera (long) of the (exposure) year for (noise) 2013. It’s marvellous, go and get one.
You might have missed it, but there is a new firmware out…
Nov 28 version 1.1 nope I didn’t miss it, I’m right on top of that
Yep, that is the one. And with NR on, there is no issue with exposures >15 sec. At longer exposure times, you need to switch NR on, then it is no issue.
Jazz are you contracted to Olympus and working for iSentia media monitors or Rehame? Because if you are I’ll just stop and let you get on with the job you paid to do. But on the off chance you are just unaware, star lapse shooting, which is what this comment was about, cannot use dark frame subtraction, you break up the star trails.
You can always do dark frame subtracting manually. This has been pointed out, so if you’re so well read on the subject, why do you not mention it. Its less than ideal, but for some professionals, its in their workflow anyways.
That is long exposure for star trails, not ‘star lapse’..
And you seem to not understand what this star trails stuff is about, see, stars leave trails, hot pixels don’t, whioh makes it trivial to filter them out, no dark frames needed.
So yes, its something to be aware of, but its not the ‘the sky is falling’ kind of issue that you are trying to make out of it.
Yaa, star trails does not always mean long trails. Many star shooters have tripods and stands that follow the earth’s rotation. So a hot pixel would could like a star.
@jimd I have an equatorial mount (eq5) with 2 axis motor drive, tracking scope, ‘shoestring’ tracking computer and all that, and I totally know and understand the issues involved, and have been dealing with those issues for decades now.
When you track stars with such a platform, stars will indeed look like dots, but using dark frames inbetween will also not leave gaps, and are a viable solution, so much so that about every piece of software aimed at this kind of use supports them, and best practices say you should use them, and not just for the E-M1.
Dark frames will be an issue when dealing with subjects that move through the frame, because in that case the time needed for dark frames will cause gaps in the recorded motion.
Yes
Yeah, a 1 kg 1000 euros manual 7 mm f2 lens…that’s not exactly what I’m waiting from MICRO 43
You won’t get a native 15mm ( 35mm equivalent ) F2 lens in any system. With the Speed Booster and a cheap adapter you get both a 15mm F2 and a 20mm F2.8 lens.
This lens is excellent news for m4/3.
A 10mm prime for M4/3! FINALLY!
Until I saw the size and weight of the thing! Holy Schmidt!
DSLR pollution, indeed… but at least it’s there.
Can’t wait to see that non-fisheye 8.5mm prime announced a few weeks ago.
Interesting, where did you see that? for m43 systems?
Yeah, I pretty sure it was here a few weeks ago. There were three, manual primes, but I can’t remember which company.
Schneider?
Kowa was the manufacturer, I think: http://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=55486
no filter thread for e.g. long exposures 🙁
I can’t see any use for it if you have 11-22 f2.8 (or 12-60) as I do. Totally unnecessary for a 1mm difference, manual focus only. However, used on a Pentax – that I consider buying for ultra-wide, that would be a different story. Being faster, if it also fares better optically than Sigma 8-16, I will go for it and K-30 in a second.
It doesn’t come in pink ostrich leather. deal breaker for me. It doesn’t do raw video. deal breaker. It should sell for $200 and throw in a free 64GB SD card, too.
sorry, wrong post! but I’ll find something not to like about the Samyang, too!
I’m still waiting for a 8 mm f2.8 tack sharp weathersealed prime…Oh wait, NATIVE micro 43
Great ! I hope it has a rectilinear projection . Because stretching in post delivers poor resolution.
I dont mind the size,i even consider a Nikon mount version so my sister can use it on her Nikon dslr
As this lens is designed for DSLR camera, it will be huge. Much larger than if it had been designed for mirrorless only.
Sorry Samyang, not this time. Do real native lens like the fisheye 7.5mm and i will buying. Because a uwa 10mm was very interesting.
I have 7.5/3.5 and 12/2, they are wonderful lens. The 12/2 is so sharp but sometimes no too much wide.
i saw the video, it seem to be really sharp lens like 12/2 but too big, sorry again.
there’s nothing about native m43 mount on samyang’s site
In video announce, you can read for m43
The specs are divided into ten columns for the mount, angle of view, length and weight info. FT and MFT are among those.
Good new, but too big and not so wide on m4/3 for me.
I’m waiting for a good 7 or 8mm (not fisheye) f/4 native m4/3 with less than 180 grams. Or a new 7-14mm F/4 AF with less flare (THE problem with this Panasonic zoom), and tropicalised.
It seems to me that the native 7.5mm fisheye did really well sales wise for them. I have one and so do many others. While I get that m4/3 is a niche market for them, you would think they would have at least 1 other native m4/3 lens in the pipeline.
+1
It’s not 10mm but 20mm on GH3! Get it!
No filter attached , sad