The copyrighted photo you can see here on Flickr has been shot with the E-M1. What’s curious about that Olympus photographers picture is that he just unveiled to the world a new and yet non announced Fuji X-T10 camera 🙂
Found via Fujirumors.
The copyrighted photo you can see here on Flickr has been shot with the E-M1. What’s curious about that Olympus photographers picture is that he just unveiled to the world a new and yet non announced Fuji X-T10 camera 🙂
Found via Fujirumors.
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Speaking of Fuji, I just saw this: firmware update v4.0 for the X-T1. They really keep working on improvements for existing models for quite a long time. I think that does add some value to their cameras. How about an update for the OM-D’s, Olympus?
No one does it like fuji…I just got rid of my E-M1 because my fuji can do just about everything as well…both very good systems but I feel fuji cherishes their users more
If I wasn’t invested in m43 I’d probably choose Fuji, too. But so far Fuji is not strictly better, and m43 will always have a size advantage.
http://camerasize.com/compare/#520,482
Sorry, but M43 can’t use that as a crutch anymore. Even the Full Frame A7’s are just as small.
Lenses may tell a different story, but my Fuji 35mm is smaller than my PL25mm, the fuji 27mm is around the same size as the Panasonic 20mm.
My kit fuji zoom lens is slightly larger than the Panny kit zoom, but honestly, I don’t even consider the 18-55 a kit lens, as not many photographers do. It has pro quality feel and performance.
Fujifilm is not playing around. They’re becoming a major player in mirrorless. and if the Fujifilm/Panasonic partnership works out, look out.
Lenses are a huge part of size no? And I’m not sure bout the new firmware but AF and Battery life are worse on the Xt1 vs em1
Lenses are part of size. But do your research. And last I checked, Olympus pro lenses are just a large as the Fuji X lenses.
And I also mentioned M43 has faster focusing. As for batteries, I always carry more than one. ALL mirrorless battery life stinks, compared to DSLRs.
When I mentioned lenses I was talking about the Sony line, just forgot to type that in for some reason. But if we are talking about m4/3 and Fuji you seem to be very selective in your lenses. Look at both the Olympus and Panasonic lines vs the Fuji lines and in general m4/3 are still lighter for the most part. In my opinion not enough to choose m4/3 over Fuji with just that but there is a difference.
Battery life wise I calculate it by how much it affects my workflow at a job (now it’s weddings). I had an XT-1 for awhile and found the battery life to be around 400~ shots where the EM1 gives me around 800+. As you said. Both are horrible as I could get thousands with my (i’ve gotten 4k + on one Canon 5d III battery… more in my 1d4 ones). But I rather be able to shoot more as battery issues are a pain.
While you might think i’m trying to attack Fuji that isn’t the case. I talked to a lot of my fellow professionals … news photographers, fashion photographers, agencies ones.. etc and even had the XT-1 for awhile before I made my decision. I was a canon pro for years for an agency but after I made a career move i decided to go mirrorless. I still would switch to Fuji / Sony / Canon mirrorless or whatever if it fits my work.
Perfect cam would be an olympus sized system with better battery life and a sony a series sensor (dreams). If i wasn’t shooting some pro work anymore (and not to say it can’t) , I would probably have chosen Fuji as it has great IQ and still better battery life (as you can see battery life is huge for me) than Sony.
800+ battery life? Are you serious?
Everywhere I read is 350+. It’s even Listed as the CIPA standard. In fact BOTH cameras are listed at 350!
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympus-om-d-e-m1/2
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-t1/2
I call shenanigans.
Have you ever used it in a professional setting where you are shooting a high output for work? It’s common knowledge that at higher rates of shooting you usually get a lot more out of your battery. I don’t just read the specs. I’ve had and used the cameras. 1d4’s batteries aren’t rated for 4k shots either. While your personal experience with different lines seem to be low your fanboyism seems to be pretty high
Not really, but 800 pics is unbelievable. I’ve done high output, from Fashion shoots to BTS for Photo shoots. From M43, Fujitsu and Canon full frame (6D). And I only shoot RAW, so I’m not making this up, kinda seems that you are.
But whatever, carry on….
BTS and Fashion Shoots are not high output (usually). I’ve shot a few all day long shoots for editorials in magazines and I didn’t hit over 400. Most of times less than that… Though I don’t doubt some people go over that
Also…everyone knows that Raws take down the count and if you’ve shot with M43 before why are you only able to give references to articles? How about reading just that 1 thread I found and many others from real users. Just ask any professional forum too. Doubt anyone who really actually knows these cams would really even come close to making the statements you are.
Your argument seems to be extremely flawed at this point.
For anyone really wondering about battery life just post in some forums and ask for real life answers from people who use it for the same purposes as you do.
Fujitsu has camera divisions?
Typo. Blame my Note4
“While your personal experience with different lines seem to be low, your fanboyism seems to be pretty high”
You nailed it.
Well I get high output with my E-M1 as well, I think his LCD is off, and he doesn’t review the shots taken, like I mostly do as well.
In that case the results are indeed way above the rated CIPA standard.
“.I just got rid of my E-M1 because my fuji can do just about everything as well..”
What about touch screen?
Like I said above, that’s one thing M43 has over Fuji, but in all honesty, with full manual controls, you really don’t miss it.
If I needed it so much, I would’ve went back to M43 as my primary kit.
MrALLCAPS, for high speed output the X-T1 simply doesn’t cut it, it’s handling is just way to slow due to all the manual controls.
Those manual controls may look nice and handy but in practice they aren’t. You need to move your hand positions and digits far too much to be able to capture “the moments”.
I did that, been there, and the Fuji X-trans (X-T1) system has been found wanting!
That’s exactly what Olympus does. E-M1 users got a huge AF improvements with the latest firmware update. Second year on the market and still getting updates.
Well, yes, they are trying, i think because fuji is getting a bit too far ahead here, so they’d better be. But is this really a case of the grass being greener over there, or is it just better grass?
No idea if they are getting ahead or not, not really into Fuji.
For Olympus, the shift in their policy seem to have occurred in the E-P5, E-M5 era. Both those cameras got some decent updates. But they really went all-in with E-M1. Which is understandable, as this is their flagship model. Hopefully, this will continue with E-M5 II and whatever comes after E-M1.
Apparentely they’ll get eye-detection AF. I wish I had that for my GX7.
You could get an Olympus as all there camera (recent models) has eye detection, L or R in their face detection mode.
The GM5 has face and eye detection, I have heard the GH4 & GF7 has it too. I bet the G7 & GX8 will have it too.
It’s a pity they can’t add touch screen with firmware! 😉
Well somebody pulled the link down, so it must have been good. But as someone who owns and shoots with both fuji and M43 gear I can say that everything you deduce is true;
– Fuji has better image quality by about 20%
– but M43 makes almost every shot a keeper, my Fuji’s fail around 40% of the time
I know this will rile some people up, but it’s my experience.
Peace and Love
I find Fuji to have worse image quality, actually. They “cook” the raw in as much that due to the x-trans sensor the basic image processing always results to something akin to noise reduction and you never get “real” raw images.
I do find the images always tend to simply look too soft and require too much processing to get right and I do find it unfortunate that Fuji doesn’t have any real pro gear…
To be fair… Fuji’s RAW files can handle some serious sharpening without adding in too much false specular highlights.
20%? Really? I myself sold my Xs to go exclusively m43. No regret.
20%? Nah, more than that. More detail, more dynamic range and the XE2 with the 35mm is around the same size as my GX7 with the PL25mm. Even smaller in some areas.
I only keep around the G6 for video. The only things M43 has over my X system is touch screens, faster focus and Ibis.
Other than that, the images that come out of my Fuji easily looks better than my M43 images.
We know you are smarter. Any samples? Or only the usual blah-blah?
Link above…
And where are your pics? Or are you one of those posers who thinks a camera around the neck is jewelry?
Nah… I mean samples that show Fuji is more than 20% better than m43. That ordinary shots show nothing in that regard.
Shows more dynamic range and detail, that’s for sure.
There isn’t any real IQ difference in practical use.
My thoughts too. Some have to constantly justify their decisions.
what’s Practical? Shooting in Daylight, or in a studio?
Well, I need good performance in all conditions, with minimum Noise and the ability to do post processing without losing detail if need be.
Usually, I would refer to this as something a camera can do vs. what it can possibly do. The easy answer is what you intend it for, and for all practical purposes of daylight and studio most cameras can accomplish those lighting scenarios. As far as I can tell, I say this because I own a lot of 4/3rds sensor cameras in addition to the X-E2, I don’t see a difference I can quantify.
Got a link to your photos, to where I can see what you dont? I own a XE2 as well, and I see it leaning towards my FF IQ, more than it being close to my M43 images.
It should be on my profile. If it’s not, then my main site is http://www.ambercool.com
I can hear the crickets….
Just the usual bullcrap from MrALLCRAP. Get a clue. No one gives a damn what you think.
He may have been a little hard to take in the past but I think you need to get over it as you’re now the one that’s been a pain here. He has said nothing here that deserves that sort of response.
That Fuji fanboy usually comes here to spread that he’s chosen Fuji and that Fuji is much superior to m43. To me is a matter of preference cause every system has its pros and cons. But he is delusional and this ‘silent’ troll of course already pissed off a lot here in the past. Every action gets a reaction. I’ve had both systems and for some reason had to choose only one. And it was m43 of course. But go and say this to a fanboy 🙂
Tissue?
Do YOU have a link to these photos, showing that you owned both systems? I would LOVE to see the reason why you chose M43 over the FujiX system.
Oh… When have I ever attacked anyone?
Mr ALL ICANDOISTALKENDLESSCRAP. please show your images and prove your argument. I do not believe you ever take any images with either system worth even looking at .
https://www.flickr.com/photos/28543414@N08/
I haven’t updated, but a few Fuji pics, but enjoy.
Now, where are yours?
There’s some interesting & even confronting street shots there! I would think that some of those shots you may have needed to walk away quickly or do some sweet talking in a hurry. 🙂
Thanks. In NYC, you get a lot of mean looks, foul words, I even got threatened once, but it’s all part of the process.
“easily looks better than my M43 images” ha ha…
Hey dude, nobody here cares what you think. U can go now!
He’s probably looking to migrate. Or maybe is mature enough to appreciate both systems
As someone who can’t afford all the programs for shooting raw (just being honest) how are the jpegs for Olympus. I had a Fuji Xe-1 and I did enjoy the colors but had to sell it at the time for budget reasons. I’m using an old Canon 5d 1 while mostly shooting film but have been checking out Olympus, Fuji etc.
you don’t need all of them, one can be sufficient