Tomorrow (on July 16 at 5-6am London time) Panasonic will also announce two new lenses:
1) Panasonic Leica 100-400mm f/4.0-6.3 Power OIS and weather sealed zoom lens.
2) Panasonic prime lens.
Not sure tough if these lenses will be available for preorder or only mentioned for a future end 2015 early 2016 release.
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Maybe the f6.3 at the long end suggests it won’t be as expensive as first thought. I just hope the IQ and AF performance holds up at the long end.
Doubt it. Power OIS and weather-sealing, if true, suggest this will be an X lens. Maybe not in the same boat as those f/2.8 zooms, but still much higher than the 100-300 (which is a very affordable telephoto option). And it kinda looks like 100-300 on steroids, as you get:
– longer reach
– weather-sealing
– better OIS
– better IQ (it really needs to be)
– hopefully better AF performance
How much will they charge for that? Three times the price of 100-300? Twice?
There’s no way it’ll be cheaper than the non-weather sealed 150-600mm 3rd party DSLR lenses. I’m guessing $1499.
please let it be an ultra wide angle *fingers crossed*
7 mm f2.0 to kick Olys butt
Hope the prime lens would be either an ultrawide prime (7-12 range) or a telephoto (150-300). As for the telezoom lens, just hoping it won’t be gigantic and optically decent and affordable. If it’s huge, it better be great optically, although that would probably make it expensive as well.
A 10mm 1.7 would be awesome.
6.3 at 400, not what I have been hoping for.
4.0
Yes over 100mm wide please.
f/6.3 at 400mm end. Not a good for wildlife or sports. We have 2 stops more light for the same depth of field and manufacturers puts us to waste it so we need to raise ISO 2 stops more than larger format.
Should have been f/4 through whole zoom range. No problems if it would have cost 4k and weight 4 pounds
as much as i would like 100-400 f4 as well… a 2k+ and weight 3-4 pounds+ lens would be tough sale for pana..
“Leica” in the 100-400mm lens title means it will be an expensive beast.
Ugh f4-6.3…better be razor sharp at all focal lengths.
Leica branding and weather sealed suggests it won’t be a cheap lens. I still have my concerns regarding the long end of a 4x zoom but we shall see.
For those only interested in the long end, the Olympus 300mm f4 + 1.4 TC (f5.6) would be another viable alternative.
Oucchh I didn’t notice the Leica branding… It will be expensive for sure.
The lens speed suggests it shouldn’t be that expensive and will likely be well sized for the system even with such a long focal length. As long as its sharp, I don’t think too many people will complain.
LEICA BRANDED 20mm 1.4, please.
Better Lumix 20mm f1.2 😉
I’d prefer a Zeiss 20mm f/0.7 Kubrick Edition.
It should have been f2.8-4, even if it was 25cm long, 10cm diameter, 2kg weight and 2000 dollars. M4/3 deserves a high-end fast telezoom!
Be careful, dpreview fanboys will punch you until you fit to your camera bag because you dare to even wish high end fast telezoom lens to m4/3 camera! 😀
Haven’t you heard that m4/3 stands for smallest size and weight as possible? You are not meant to use anything longer than 42.5mm!
I think the question is how good/fast the AF can be for a fast tele using CD AF or even on-sensor PDAF. People using the Olympus 300 mm f/2.8 (4/3 lens) on the E-M1 say that its AF there is just not quite good enough. 400 mm f/4 has a similar shallow DOF as this 300 mm f/2.8.
The E-M1 with 3.0 firmware makes it extreme good with 90-250mm f/2.8 with 2x teleconverter. No problems with it.
Is the problem accuracy or speed? Speed should generally be independent of the camera body–there’s only so much power the AF motor can put out, only so much torque the gears can take, etc.
The problem seems to be tracking, in particular with movement that is not continuous.
Jeez, been getting the same vibe at mu-43. I love MFT but everyone there is hounding on the adage “MFT is better because it’s smaller, and any increase in size is worthless because MFT is better because it’s smaller”
We got finally a second great lens to m4/3 system, the Olympus 7-14mm PRO. And those street/portrait wannabi photographers are yelling their lungs out how it is so big and heavy and how the m4/3 is just for small size and weight. I only say to myself that those people would be better with the iphone as they want so much small size and weight.
The long and fast telephoto lens for m4/3 like 150-400mm f/4 would not be as big and heavy and expensive as anything canon or nikon throws at.
Like thinking this combo from Olympus:
E-M1 x 2
7-14mm f2.8
12-40mm f2.8
40-150mm f/2.8 + TC (56-210mm f/4)
150-400mm f/4 (+TC 210-560 f/5.6)
It would weight far less than canon/nikon systems.
You could carry that whole system with you while with canon/nikon you carry just one body with two zooms.
Yet those wannabies would not even need to look at those in stores. And yet those who buy those would buy those and buy more lenses from oly and pana to complete the system they need. Win Win for everyone! But dpreview fanboys (and mu-43 fanboys?) doesn’t want that!!
A supertele lens for m43 will be bigger and more costly than a “similar” lens for a 35mm sized sensor, because it will need the same lens size, but needs double the resolution and correction of aberrations.
Nearly all mFT glass including the likes of the 12-40mm “pro” use extensive in camera corrections , which should make them smaller , lighter and cheaper
Distortion correction is rarely an issue in the super telephoto lens class though.
Forget that bunch of creaky old geriatrics.
They have trouble emptying their colostomy bags, never mind lifting a tiny M4/3 camera and lens to frame and focus.
A good quality 100-400/..-5,6 will cost you around 2000 US$, a good quality 100-400/..-4 will cost you 6000US$
You are comparing to lenses designed to cover FF sensors { 4x the size of mFT} in theory mFT lenses should be far smaller and far cheaper { they use a fraction of the materials and design for a small sensor is easier especially when you take into account the in camera lens corrections}
That’s totally incorrect in this case, unfortunately. Let’s look at the Canon 100-400 f4.5-5.6 as an example. 400/5.6 requires a 72mm aperture by definition. That lens has a 77mm filter thread. So it’s about as small as it cad be. And the aperture isn’t mounted at the front element, so it’s not like the lens can taper down much.
The limiting factor with super telephoto lenses is rarely the image circle.
Actually the amount of raw materials has next to nothing to do with the final price of a premium lens. It’s all about design and manufacturing tolerances. The cost of making a Micro 4/3 lens is not any cheaper than a Full Frame lens, because the Micro 4/3 lens has to resolve the same amount of detail in an imaging area that is one quarter the size of the Full Frame equivalent. So in terms of lines per millimeter, the Micro 4/3 lens has to have double the resolution of the Full Frame lens.
If you’re curious to compare the real costs, check out the prices of the high end Olympus Four/Thirds lenses when they were first released with the cost of the Nikon or Canon equivalent lens at the time. ( these lenses have come down a bit since their release date, but when they were first released the high end Olympus Four/Thirds lenses cost a small fortune )
Better be optically superior to Nikon 1 VR 70-300mm F3.5-5.6 CX. And not much bigger nor heavier. Otherwise not interested.
Nothing wrong with having a second body to take telephotos. But most MFT owners can use this lens.
Damn, why did Leica have to get involved? This would have been a nice $800 lens, now it’s going to be $1400.
IMO it needs to be around $1400 to be a high quality lens. Similar to the pricing of the X lenses. I don’t want and other so-so long Panasonic lens, I have been disappointed in my 100-300 for too many years. I hope that adding the Leica name is not just Panasonic marketing BS
$1,400 for an f6.3 at the long end is asking for alot since you can find the 100-300 for around $500.
Pana Leica needs a 35mm eq prime.
This is a welcome lens and a good test to see how extreme telephoto will sell. I would imagine if this sells well it would make the case for something better, maybe a 150-400 f5.6 from olympus that would work with the teleconverter.
I dont mind larger/bigger zooms for the system… The whole point of the system is versatility, small when you need it and large when performance demands it.
It should be 150-400mm f/4 or 150-450mm f/4 with TC support.
Those who don’t need that focal length for fast shutter speeds can get “these cheaper” options. Those who need such focal length and fast shutter speeds already has invested tens of thousands to their canon/nikon gear and they are willing to sell their gear off and buy the m4/3 systems if there just would be extremely good long telelenses.
Soon we hear how great that that 100-400mm really is. Sad is that it is way too slow for serious sports/wildlife (f/4 is minimum, f/2.8 preferred).
100-400mm f2.8 is absurd. If you want an idea of size look at the Nikon 400mm f2.8. m43rds might be able to shave some size off here and there but it is going to be a beast.
If they can keep the size down and go 150-400 f4 that would be great, but 2.8 is really epic in size.
This is only about 1/3 of a stop slower than the current 100-300, an insignificant drop in speed. It is not just what f-stop is on the lens, it is also what f-stops are useable. I want a lens light enough so that I can continue to carry several 4/3 lenses in my bag.
I would love for the prime to be a 17.5mm f/1.7, though I suspect it will be an updated PL 25/1.4 with an aperture ring and styling to match the 15/1.7 and 42.5/1.2.
A 10mm prime (f/1.7 would be nice) or updated 20mm prime (fast internal focusing please) would be a welcomed surprise as well.
I’m surprised to hear so many complaints about I.Q. From the pana 100-300mm f4-5.6!!
I found the images were superb. My only issue with it was it’s lack of speed. I’ve since invested in a four thirds 50-200 and the 300mm 2.8.. They are amazing. Even with tc’s;
I disagree with iq complaints but strongly agree with any of you stating we need a fast 300mm+ native zoom.
dittos. And the AF for catching passing planes, canoes, and the like is great. And the obligatory moon shots are mind blowing.
Other makes are doing more for the long end, check out the IQ comparison:
http://nikon1user.blogspot.com/2014/07/nikkor-1-vr-70-300mm-f45-56-first.html
and see the size comparison: http://j.mp/1Lb7fia
Sure, but that Nikkor is a lot more expensive. Let’s see if Panasonic can up the ante…
Perhaps the quality of the 100-300s is not consistant and you got one of the better ones. I need to stop down to at least 7.1 to get results that are barely OK.
Me too. Baaaaaarely okish. And I’d like to see images from those with the ‘good’ 100-300.
10mm or 12mm prime, please. f/1.7 is perfectly fine for me. I’m just not convinced by price of olympus 12mm.
that’s what I’m hoping for, a fast wide angle prime, somewhere in the 8 to 12 range.
A Panaleica 20mm iii super fast or 17mm
Pics or it didn’t happen. 😉 I’ll wait for the announcement.
This is a rumour site in case you didn’t notice.
Sure but they had pics of the GX8! 🙂 And it’s only a few hours before the rumoured announcement; you would think the ‘rumour site’ would have something to show us by that time, if they’re any good at sourcing rumours!
I only have Oly bodies but I really like Panny lenses. I’m lucky enough to own used P42.5 1.2 ($680), P25 1.4 ($320), P20 1.7 ($250), P14 2.5 ($140).
Where in the heck did you get a used Noct for $680? Lowest I’ve seen is $1,000 and thats rare.
I was lucky. It could have been $0 but I just can’t screw people. Sometimes honesty goes a long way.
I hope the prime is an OIS equipped answer to the olympus 75mm f/1.8. That would be such a stellar lens, especially if the GX8 IS works as promised with hybrid OIS and IBIS.
100-400 sounds pretty great to me. How about a fast super wide angle Panny? Please?
My wish for the second lens is a 7mm prime.
that would be amazing for the system. I’d be looking for things to sell to snag that.
It’ll be a 67.5mm F1.8…