The Panasonic G7 will cost $799 with the 14-42mm kit lens. And you will get an extra $100 off if you buy it with a second Panasonic MFT lens.
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Does it have IBIS?
No – But you can wait for the GX8 if you want IBIS.
(As the GX7 also had IBIS already ^^.)
I wonder if Panasonic will retain the 3axis IBIS in the GX8 as it will have 4K – some of suggested it might not have the 3axis IBIS – like the GH4 does not have IBIS – will be interesting to see –
I wish they keep IBIS and make it a 5 axis – as there are many nice Olympus lenses out there that are so small and light and the Panasonic 25mm F1.4 and 20mm could benefit from 5 axis IBIS –
The Sony A7s with 4k does not have IBIS but the A7 m2 – of course the A7 m2 came out few months later – so not sure if there are some issue with 4k and IBIS as Olympus in their OMD -EM5 m2 did not include 4K –
Maybe they skip 4K video on the GX8 – Who knows (the GX7 also was more interesting for stills than for video ^^). They could also limit it to a few minutes (to prevent overheating) or use it just for the 4K photo feature (which is more important for many people). ^^
Btw.: It looks like it´s quite problematic to shoot 4K / readout 4K from the sensor (without line skipping for example) AND use IBIS at the same time. There was even a rumor about the upcoming Sony A6100 / A7000 according sensor overheating issues because of the IBIS. And Sony has more experience with IBIS than Panasonic (Olympus too).
Though funny on the other side: Sony has huge overheating issues even WITHOUT IBIS. Panasonic still / video hybrids are stable to shoot for HOURS – But with the smaller Sony bodies (A5000 / 5100 / 6000 for example) you never know, when the recording will stop (because of overheating) – Even without IBIS ^^.
I believe 4k and IBIS is possible on m43 as the sensor is smaller. Samsung is rumoured to implement IBIS and they already do 4k video, so it shouldn’t be a problem. I don’t think Sony will be able to have in body 4k recording and IBIS working properly on their FF bodies with no overheating for at least another least 1-2 years. Hopefully Panasonic or Olympus will take the lead and do it first.
Well – Smaller sensor means easier to stabilize – That´s true. But smaller also means less surface to dissipate heat. Sure – You can build it bigger (with a bigger heatsink / backside area). But to make such a setup compatible to record over HOURS – That´s a huge goal. But maybe it´s possible for 10 or 15 min. (like the limit on the LX100). Would be also ok (at least for most shoots / scenarios).
Full frame is another problem yes – 4K with IBIS and full sensor readout (like with the A7s the case) – I don´t think that we´ll see an A7s Mk-II with IBIS soon. Samsung – Well. They have 4K capable sensors. But never made an IBIS system til now (public available). AND they also have to deal with the same limitations as all the other manufacturers ^^.
Fine..this is waht i exactly see in price.. means in September it is +-600 $..fine
so see how Sony and Samsung underrate this price so we see a deep falling.
good for me and good for me.
the hard world of market.
outsider lx100 can now fall to 399,- and more YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Here it is… The camera market expert….
Do you already have any camera at least?
VERY smart of Panasonic to offer $100 off on a second lens. Seems like pretty good value to me. Just wish it had vlog, a headphone jack, and continuous autofocus on par with Canon’s dual pixel autofocus- which is the best I’ve seen for large sensor video.
In HD the Gh4 works much like the Canon 70D when it comes to A. In 4K mode I found it nearly unusable though…
Yep. Good move – About the features: Don´t forget about the GH4 (and the GH series in general). You need to seperate the product lineups. And the contrast AF systems are getting better and better. ^^
Sony A6000/A5100 and Samsung NX1/NX500 AF-C is equally capable as Dual Pixel, if not better.
Sony AF-C is more customizable.
SLT is still better AFAIK.
i’m waiting to see if the sony rx100 mk4 has 4k, but this G7 cam is looking really good for $799usd though i must say. i highly doubt the next version of the sony rx00 will be under $800usd. any ideas of when this G7 will hit the market? I’m interested in three little cams for multicam 4k interviews. the lx100 didn’t offer what I am after, and the samsung nx500 4k is too hard to work with for me.
I’m curious, what do you not like about the lx100? The G7 plus two lx100’s might make for a nice multicam setup. I doubt the G7 is gonna have a headphone jack though. I’d wait and see if the LX100 price starts dropping though. If it doesn’t I’d probably just go with three G7’s.
LX100 has a 15min time limit on recording 4K
I wonder if this cam will be better. Do you know if you can remotely restart the LX100 via wifi?
“remotely restart” ???
A very good price for a good 4K camera, bravo Panasonic!
I really like this camera, but I think I would like more the GX8.
Hope the GX8 too will be released soon.
If ultimate photography tool is what you matter
If breakthrough in image quality is what you expect
If design & innovation is what you care
Then it’s wise to wait for DMC GX8 .
Soo, it is actually more expensive than the G6 was at launch! (up to $799 from $749). Price makes sense, as it is positioned between E-M10 and E-M5 (for example). Looks like the GX8 will again be around $1000 body only; I hoped the competition would force Pana to lower prices. 😐
I suspect you will be right – I just think Sony will lead sales again with their A6000 and now upcoming A6100 as it is rumored to be about the same price as the A6000 – with a larger sensor and it will feature 4k video – finally Touch Shutter – ( no complete Touch LCD ) – I have the A6000 and two GX7’s and prefer to use the GX7 – so I hope they keep all the good and just improve with the GX8 – but I expect same sensor –
and I think both the GX8 and the OMD-Em5 m2 should be less money to compete with the very popular A6000/A61000 coming soon – specially the Panasonic GX8 as for some reason I have a feeling that Panasonic has the least respect of these names – which has nothing to do with their products abilities – just peoples perception and snob –
Like you I just thought Panasonic wanted to increase sales and in order to do that they have to compete closer to the A6000/A6100 –
If Sony manages to somehow put working 4k WITH IBIS in the a7000, they will dominate the sales and the G7 won’t stand a chance. If only Panasonic put in more megapixels in the G7 to help make it compete with all the 24MP models. Because yes, at the end of the day consumers DO care about the megapixel count, and if they see something with more megapixels at the same price point, they will be drawn to that instead even though they won’t need it. But if the a7000 doesn’t have 4k video, the G7 will be at a big advantage. I think it’s safe to say the a7000 will have IBIS though.
So is that going to be 799€ as well? Probably not looking at recent pricing of products. I actually expect 899€ in europe… and wish for 699€ 🙂
Likely 799€.
same price as a6000 when it was released last year.
So what?
good priced and interesting specs (design, 4k feature, …) but still no IBIS, i will wait for a gx8 ah least
Nice camera, but old sensor? Same, at gx7/em5/em10 and others -__-‘
i really hope GX8 have NEW sensor
Come on, E-M5, E-M5 MkII, E-M10 have a different sensor! They may perform similarly, though.
It is very likely the same for all the cameras (E-PM2, E-PL5/6/7, E-P5 included) except for the E-M1.
I use em5/gh3/g5/gx7/epm2
Yes, sensors have differnts. MICROSCOPIC differents
If GX8 use same sensor, as gx7 with small upgarde in architecture and new CPU… it’s fail
No way GX8 will use similar sensor as GX7 .
Otherwise what is the point of GX8 ?
May be 5 axis stabilization?)))
joke
DR & ISO performance have to be significantly improved to address if a sensor is the same or not .
In your case ( EM5 , EM5 2 & EM10 ) , I consider them all the same sensor .
I agree but I expect GX8 to have same sensor also as according to Fuji who is working on the Organic sensor with Panasonic it will not be ready this year.
I just wished they would use Backlit Tech like Samsung on their NX1 and Sony in their RX100m3 to improve low light performance a bit – also remove Anti Alias filter –
also make a hybrid sensor for better Tracking Focus – as DFD only works with Panasonic Lenses –
So until Organic sensor is out there are ways to improve the current sensor – but I expect they will have us wait and save money –
Sony seems to be the most aggressive sensor maker now – the new Samsung sensor is also quite impressive –
The A6000 has done very well in sales – it has an APS-C size sensor – so I guess the point is maybe the G7 is priced a bit high as I expect Sony to release their A6100 soon and it will most likely also feature 4k video –
I think for example that the GX7 which I love and have two – has been overpriced for a long time – I also have the A6000 –
Sony really started to lead sales in this class when they dropped their price below the GX7 and OMD-EM5 and X-E2 –
I personally prefer using the GX7 over the A6000 – but I think the IQ is a bit better out of the A6000 and of course tracking focus is better in the A6000 –
Sony has a more respected name in the camera business I think – so I just think that Panasonic have to keep their price a bit lower to in this class or at least $50-$100 less then the A6000/A61000 to increase sales –
Sales numbers show that for last year between the GX7 and A6000 –
I still love Panasonic cameras and the G7 looks quite nice –
Likewise I think the Olympus OMD-Em5 m2 is overpriced now in comparison to the A6000 –
“A6100 as it is rumored to be about the same price as the A6000 – with a
larger sensor and it will feature 4k video – finally Touch Shutter”
Excuse me, who are you to know more about the A6100 than SAR Admin?
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Excuse me – I just have seen many rumors that it will have 4K – and Touch Shutter and have the same price – but if your mightiness has solid info that none of that is true then tell us – ( larger sensor I mean the A6000/A6100 have APS-C so seems logical it would be more costly then a smaller sensor camera like the M43’s ) –
I think you missed this…
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-a6100-has-no-4k-yet/
That rumor said ““there’s no A7000 (NEX-7 replacement), but rather an A6000 replacement coming soon. ”
Today the latest rumor says it is not an A6000 replacement but a new class and the A6000 will continue to be sold –
So what to believe ? 🙂
They still have the RX100m2 for sale – but as the RX100m4 comes out I suspect the M2 will start to fade away – Personally I would opt for 5 axis IBIS over 4k in the A6xx as it would be more of a street shooter then a video cam – If I needed a 4k machine I would get the GH4 or possibly the NX1 or now the G7 –
body only option?
Probably .
After the first batch of shipment if it don’t come out with that package .
Talk to your dealer & start make a booking .
So with lens it will be about $150 more than the newest Nikon D5500 with kit lens (grey market).
Both will be spectacular cameras capable of spectacular results.
One has a brand name well known to the public, a larger format, more mp, latest sensor, faster, better battery life. The other (using G6 dimensions) weighs 80 gm less and is 1mm narrower in width.
The average consumer will walk into a retailer or browse at an online retailer, and will wonder why he should pay almost 25% more for the Olympus.
This isn’t about right or wrong or bestest or worstest. This is about consumer behavior and market dynamics.
This price for the G7 sounds like it was a good price for 2012. It’s not good at all today.
Worse. Enthusiasts are hip to all the manufacturer tricks by now. They know the G7 will see a large decline in price in six months, and that their current 16mp micro 4/3 cameras are good enough and will produce virtually identical results to the G7. Less incentive to hurry and buy.
This is not an indictment on the product. This is instead a criticism on product marketing and their 2010 pricing model.
This cam with this featureset at that price is a bargain. Anyone with some knowledge will easily recognise it. When someone wants the best video at the best price, it is the G7. Not any nikon. The point is however that Nikon D5500 has a 24 Mpixel sensor, is APS-c and leaves little to be explained. It is so much easier to sell for a salesman….So in the end you are right,many will buy it for the wrong reasons i think
The Nikon D5500 has very very good video for 1080, likely as good as the G7 or even better!
Where the D5500 is let down, is the lack of serious features for filmmaking. Only edge where the D5500 would have an edge is live HDMI out.
“likely as good as the G7 or even better!”
Unlikely, the 24mpix Sony sensor is incapable of full-sensor readout at video speeds. But for most consumers, it matters very little.
Overpricing products at launch is not a good strategy. By the time they have the opportunity to lower prices, there are new competitors available and the cameras are old and nobody buys them anyway.
See how successful a6000 was, because it was priced right FOR THE MARKET AT THAT TIME right from the beginning, while E-M10+14-42 kit has to be discounted to $499, E-PL6+14-42 kit to $299 and still do not sell well (because they are old now, no OSPDAF etc).
He´s talking about restarting the recording (after the 15 min. limit kicks in) ^^. Should be possible with the app – Yes. At least, as far as it´s not showing overheating.
Does DFD work with non-Panasonic lenses?
No.
No. Other question: is that what it takes? No! I use my Oly 45 mm f1.8 for instance with my GH4 and while a bit slower it does a good job. On the GH4 I get about 5-6 fps in C-AF and the keeperrate is the same as with the 35-100 f2.8.
Much more will depend on the AF-motors used. These hamper both panny and Oly lenses alot more for fast bursts with tracking.
Well done, Panasonic. It’s all about what this feels like in the hands, but looks like a winner.
Geez, Olympus. One can buy a G7 + 14-42 + 45-150 for $100 less than an E-M5ii body. What a statement on the difference of affordable yet state of the art system cameras VS repackaged jewels for G.A.S. afflicted consumers.
Given its specs many were expecting a higher price. The G7 should really give the popular EM10 a run for the money as well as compete with EM5 II.
The 4K features in this G7 camera may prove to be more popular for still photographers then many think once they start using all its features. One previewer listed on m4/3 noted that the Pre 4K mode will take a stream of 8K pictures at 30 fps for 1 second before you snap your picture and 1 second afterwards enablying you to select the precise moment you are looking for.
At $800 for the 14-42 kit, it WILL NOT give $500 for E-M10+14-42 kit (and similar E-M5 kit) any “run”. Only for those who absolutely have to have 4k and are willing to lose IBIS with all lenses.
Even a6000 kit is cheaper, more compact, has more pixels and OSPDAF. And a new a6xxx is coming any day (so a6000 is going to be discounted further). Panasonic should discount the camera $200 or risk not selling many.