Finally I am getting first info about the upcoming new Panasonic GH3. A trusted sources told me that while it is true that Panasonic is working hard on the electronic global shutter technology they will not implement it within the new GH3. When the GH3 development started they had some hopes that they might achieve that goal but this will not happen. And he also told me that:
1) the camera is weather sealed
2) the major improvement will be the new Electronic Viewfinder and Autofocus speed
3) That the GH3 will arrive in late Summer (right before the Photokina show in September).
P.S.: Reminder: The Panasonic G5 announcement should be in May!
Rumors classification explained (FT= FourThirds):
FT1=1-20% chance the rumor is correct
FT2=21-40% chance the rumor is correct
FT3=41-60% chance the rumor is correct
FT4=61-80% chance the rumor is correct
FT5=81-99% chance the rumor is correct
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“they might would archive the goal”
correct would be:
“they might achieve that goal”
For now an electronic first curtain shutter will do. Canon and Sony do it so Panasonic can to.
I’m pretty sure that’s precisely what the “major improvement will be […] Autofocus speed” is about.
Good point mate!!!
actually, they probably have archived it now…
….wasn’t expected global shutter in the GH3 to be honest, let hope they improve the build quality (less easily scuffed, markings wearing off quickly, screws rusting) and that they implement more advanced features and more accessories….
If there is no Global shutter, I hope AT LEAST that they have implemented an electronic first curtain.
THIS IS A REAL NECESSITY for long telephoto where the Olympus IBIS trounces Panasonic!!!
The EVF improvement is the best news then… About auto-focus speed, I wouln’t care less, the GH2 is already as fast as I need it to be. I’d rather have improved DR or PSNR.
@You Didn’t – Agree about the quality issue. NB Don’t forget the self detaching camera strap lugs…..
Oh well, as long as the EVF/LCD is top quality with the addition of E-M5 type of improvement in stills with better video than the GH2, I’ll probably be all over it…
The E-M5 shows no real RAW improvement and this will be confirmed as soon as RAW support for the major software comes out. From the claims that a few mentally challenged fan boys are making you would think this is a miracle camera, the only miracle has been Olympus convincing so many idiots that it is LOL. Those boys are going to need a big ole box of Kleenex.
Ever checked the studio compare at dpreview? *lol*
Yes I have compared the RAW files and when you balance the processing there is NO difference. Or are you one of the Olympus faithful that thinks over sharpened JPEG files with a mountain of NR makes the camera as good as FF lol
And you a lot of toothpaste to clean your mouth, oh king of the pana-clever people .Super Lol
Toothpaste doesn’t have enough fluoride so make it hydrofluoric acid.
“The E-M5 shows no real RAW improvement and this will be confirmed as soon as RAW support for the major software comes out”
I think you are a bit to confident when saying something that contradicts all the tests that have been done so far…You should doubt a little instead of speaking as you possess the truth
Well Jeff considering how inept most of these “tests” have been I do not give them a great deal of credit. Heck most of them think using default JPEG is a good way to compare. I have no doubt that the E-M5 is a superb device with excellent features and capability , just compare the RAW files with NR off and matched processing of the RAW files and the difference is if any tiny. And I could be wrong as just as those making mad claims as good as D800 ,5DmkIII, Pentax 645D etc and if you think I am exaggerating have a look at some of the posters on DPreview,
I think you’re the inept one here.
Thank you for your incisive comment lol, well the list of issues with most though not all “tests” I have seen from the E-M5 is pretty long. Nearly every test has been using JPEG, the few using RAW were using not fully supported software until lightroom RC came out, and we have had several so called reports from Olympus users with favoured status including Robin Wong.
I prefer unbiased scientifically valid tests with a clear and transparent methodology. Not forgetting the abuse anyone who dares suggest that the difference between the E-M5 and the current best mFT cameras GX1/GH2 gets in the various forums, getting a reasoned opinion is difficult. There are people claiming the E-M5 is better than the likes of the Nikon D800 lol, download a RAW sample and have a look in Lightroom to see the lunacy of that claim. While you are at it try comparing the E-M5 RAW files { with NR off } with the GX1/GH2 and then get back to me about the huge differences.
I’d love improved DR.
As I understand no other major improvements in sensor technology (better SN, DR, AA etc.) should be expected as well.
Oh, really?
And your sources would be… ?
😛
One thing is sure. Buying the G3 one year ago wasn’t a hasty movement at all.
Do you mean it will be announced before Photokina, promised for delivery before Christmas and actually available to buy closer to Easter?
For the countries deep in financial crisis – yes. Guys, stop blaming Panny instead of your bankrupt economy and useless USD.
Why do you mention countries in plural yet direct the comment at the US with your USD mention? What’s your intention?
It’s Panasonic’s fault for making shit products.
Any idea if is will have a battery grip like the E-M5 does?
NOOOO! I don´t believe it! 😀
i’m wondering what’s the point of the GH3 ?
Replacing GH2?
“Same 18 MP sensor but better image processing”
that would blow
😀
Yep, but it seems to be a really slight upgrade.
Rakouka, I’m wondering too. Better AF and EVF wouldn’t tempt me to upgrade – for me those are fine already. If necessary I’ll continue to wait for better DR and less skew (and eventually a new shutter).
I’ll buy one straight away if it has 1080/50p (1080/60p for USA), in body image stabilization would be icing on the cake!
GH3 should have 1080/60p, sensor improvement for DR.
if GH3 does not have 1080 50/60p then its not gonna sell! – unless they have a better sensor than the OMD….
Of course it will sell, because the GH2 will no longer be in production……
What makes you think that the GH2 is selling?
They get mentioned more in forums, more of the people I talk to are buying them (including a local rental house) and I have had over 2,000 new visitors from 73 countries since I started posting GH2 tech articles.
Also, the prices have gone back up from the low they were at not too long ago. To compare and contrast, around this time last year, you could pick up a GH1 for $400.
All of this tends to suggest pretty decent sales.
If these three features are the the main ones, then I take it that there will be no major improvement in ISO performance? I remember an interview from a few months ago when Panasonic stated that the main thing for GH3 was going to be better ISO performance.
Did he confirmed the Panasonic 12-35 as kit-lens for the GH3?
Yes!
There’s a major reason for buying it right there.
Yes, and the kit price will be…? The 12-35 will probably cost some €1000 in itself. With the GH3 — €1600 would be a bargain.
That’s really great news…..I wonder what Olympus will come up with in answer?
Another 14-42mm @ constant f6.3? 😉
Why so fast!? 😮
Olympus does not need an “answer”. It’s the same system. The lens propositions from both manufacturers seem to have been coordinated in the past year, which means more choice and less redundancy.
Who cares? That Panny 12-35 will work perfectly on my E-M5.
Their answer should be an updated m43 version of their legendary four-thirds 12-60 f/2.8-4.
While they don’t really need to “answer” Pany, there is still room for another 12-xx zoom option.
1. The Oly 12-50mm is concerned with being small (sacrificing corner sharpness) as a basic kit lens.
2. The Pany 12-35mm will be a high-end fixed aperture lens comparable to a Nikon or Canon 24-70 f/2.8.
3. There is still room for a high-quality 12-60mm (even with a variable aperture f/2.8-4). It would be the m43 answer to the Nikon 24-120mm — a high-quality and somewhat big travel lens (when you don’t want to have to switch lenses).
I’m a big fan of the four-thirds 12-60, so I’d love to see them make a native version.
+1000
Wow!! so great news 🙂
I guess I’ll skip GH3 and wait for GH4 with, hopefully, global shutter, better DR and maybe, maybe, just maybe 10bit 4:2:2 (wishful thinking ftw) :]
10bit video? If only…
Will wait at least 2-3 iterations of GH or E-M before considering to replace my GH-2.
I’m satisfied as it is 🙂
Disappointing, and if those are the only main improvements there’s no reason to upgrade for me. At the very least we need a generational sensor improvement, minor tweaks won’t cut it.
Hmm . I expect this too . That means also no new sensor for GH3 , the new revolution sensor will feature in the one that above GH .
The much highend camera that will compete against NEX top model .
The addition of weather sealing to the most bi-functional (stills and video) series on the market is important. Currently there is no solution for shooting low-production high quality video in bad weather. Field photojournalists will be delighted.
The unique functionality of the GH series would be further enhanced by the integration of a solid IBIS mechanism, but we’ll probably have to wait for it until the next iteration.
Some things are more important than a better sensor and Panasonic seems to stride in the right direction.
New EVF/screen, weather sealed, superior AF were a given. Also 99.9% certain we will see AVCHD 2.0 and iso upto 25,600 too. I use GH2 for video and the only thing I would really like is a flat profile and DR/colour improvements.
I agree about the flat profile, The GH2 is a pain to match to the af100 because of it.
This is a letdown unless they are leaving out advancements in IQ. EVF won’t give me better results and though I want weather sealing I want more then just that. Well maybe by the time it comes out the M5 will be dropping in price.
I hope we hear something else soon that makes the 2 years they’ve had to make improvements to the GH2 seem like time well spent.
Admin, any whispers on the price of the 12-35?
yes (if I remember well it was a bit over $1000)
Any more rumblings on whether it is f2?
Will be interesting to see how much it goes for bundled with the GH3
Holy lowered expectations… Lets hope they have SOMETHING up their sleeve. If it doesnt beat the GH1 in image quality, ill be switching teams.. Throw us a bone why dont you? Still hopeful.
Why on earth are they improving autofocus ?!?!?!?! who the hell need that thing when you can use much better lenses than those from panasonic! why these corporate dumb heads never realise for what is their product good for. I just hope it is not going to end up like 5Diii after all, jesus ! Weather sealed is great but hope there are any weather sealed high quality lenses. Hope they’ll improve frame rate 120fps at 720p would be stunning!
Now I am really glad I bought a GH2 instead of hoping for a GH3 to appear, soon. A global shutter would have been of big interest to me.
But “Weather sealed” is not important to me (need an underwater housing, anyway), “Electronic Viewfinder” is completely irrelevant for me (never used any view finder, I just prefer using the display), and the auto-focus speed of the GH2 is absolutely good enough for my use cases (and doesn’t matter for the videos I like to shoot, anyway).
Wake me when the GH4 is announced (or if some other manufacturer starts offering decent video quality in a small form factor) 🙂
Are we talking some breakthrough in CAF? Being able to use m43 for fast moving sports action would be choice.
Functional AF tracking would be a big breakthrough. Nikon 1 is the only option amongst mirrorless and it seems to be limited to good light.
A silent elctronic shutter would also be excellent for stealth and low vibration.
Better wake you when the gh5 comes out just to be safe…
The global shutter would have been the only useful improvement. At this point I have to say: drop dead panasonic!
That’s a little harsh. While one may be disappointed by only gradual improvements in such a model, a small improvement is better than no improvement, and anyone is free to keep his current camera.
And from what I’ve seen so far, the competitors have not yet closed the gap to the GH2 regarding video quality, so there still is one argument to buy Panasonic instead of others.
yes, but the GH3 is not out yet and the competitors are capable of launching better new cameras in the meantime.
Panasonic is losing its edge
to be honest, panasonic doesn’t really have an “edge” they only sell fully baked products and that means they are usually a generation or two behind the latest and greatest tech, but having used their gear for 10 years professionally, its worked out great.
How many years and camera variations must we go through before they address the shutter issue? Guess I’m done waiting on panasonic. I’ll hold out for either the Bolex or the BlackMagic cam.
It seems to be a time in the doldrums for Panasonic’s offerings to enthusiast photographers. The GX1 is a good camera, but does not have the built in EVF that so many, including me, look forward to. There is no assurance that there will be a GX2 or GXPro “range finder style” camera with an internal EVF. The GH3 is still a while away. New lenses seem to be taking a long time. Will enjoy what I’ve got.
A mistake. They should have concentrated on global shutter, not on 3.2″ screen.
+10 of course
Until they do, it will always make an awesome surveillance camera.
Now why would consumer electronics company concentrate on actual improving of camera instead of just worsening ergonomy…
After all average consumer wants as much pee and shit as possible.
Lol Some people here seem satisfied with whatever incremental improvements pany wants to dole out. Not I. They want to sell a hybrid video camera, then it should shoot proper video.
Well, honestly I wasn’t expecting a global shutter seeing Canon and Nikon weren’t able to on their DSLR flagships. On the other hand, I’m expecting a more pro body from Panasonic with improved DR and better low-light sensitivity. I also wouldn’t mind having an integrated timelapse function, and of course great video right off the bat like the GH2.
I agree… global shutter seems like a tough nut that everyone’s taking awhile to crack. A bright halo and big bragging rights will go to whomever gets it first, but I don’t have my hopes fixed on Panasonic being the one.
What I *would* like, if my next camera’s to be Panny, is better DR and less dark noise in the 4/3-size sensor. With Sony at the wheel, APS-C is definitely a moving target and Panasonic needs to keep focus on image quality per unit pixel area. I’m fine with 16M rather than 24M, but please make the tone curve of comparable breadth and fidelity!
I don’t need the electronic global shutter at all, but really wanna have a slow-motion shooting!!
Please Panasonic!!
I wanted GS but will be happy and buy the GH3. Weatherproofing? No interest.. I never take my gear out in the rain, and if I did, I can afford an umbrella or a way to keep it dry. I’ll be happy with 1080p/60, a better higher rez lcd so I can focus easier with the lcd. Better DR would be a bonus…
This GH3 will hopefully be a good alternative choice instead of the OM-D.
Who cares about the global shutter. Give the GH3 better DR at low ISO’s (up to 6400), improve the resolution of EVF and LCD, add manual audio controls, add more bitrate and framerate options for video and for crying out loud take a page from the Olympus book and offer a stinkin’ grip.
Just got my EM5 and grip and its awesome, makes portrait shooting so much easier. If it had the video capability of the GH2 and a mic input with manual audio controls I’d sell all my Canon and Nex gear and go all in on the EM5.
+10
Yeah all that… wider dynamic range, improved LOW ISO performance, high-res EVF and LCD (on par with NEX-7). Focus peaking would be a no-brainer … and doable today with a GH2 firmware update… especially with the popularity of adapting manual lenses and the native Voigtländer’s.
Please, please, puh-LEASE Panasonic, send those old VCR programmers up to Mt. Narayama (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051980/) and clean up the goddam interface and menu system!
Global shutter will come eventually, but it seems like one of those buzz words that doesn’t add up to much until it actually works. Switching brands or slashing wrists based on vague rumors doesn’t make much sense.
You need more resolution in the EVF? Why?
Manual focus.
The majority of my lenses are manual, but even with my AF lenses, I often need MF for critical focus. For instance, when I use my 100-300mm for shooting birds in trees. AF will focus perfectly on leaves and branches, while ONLY MF will allow me to actually focus on the bird. A higher-res EVF will help tremendously, especially in situations where time is limited… critters move!
Well I dunno …… I have Lumix 100-300, Rokkor 35-150, Tamron 70-200 and have no problem manual focussing any of those with the current EVF???
Higher resolution EVF will help manual focusing. Faster refresh would be of more use to me though. Improve he dynamic range of the EVF so you can see the shadows better is another area for EVF improvement.
Viewfinder is main image framing device, it’s doable and already done year ago by Sony.
I’ve quickly tried Sony A77 and darn that EVF is good.
Besides Panasonic is still using that RGB field sequential design.
I cannot understand how a better EVF is needed for framing. Focus …. perhaps (but see my other comment). But framing?????
Shittiest news I’ve heard in a long time.
I was really hoping the GH3 had global shutter… so the youtube video was fake after all!
I want to see how the GH3 compares with the upcoming Canon 650D/T4i in video performance.
Yeah, must be. I was hoping it was the real deal but too good to be true, I suppose.
Glad I bought the GH2 already. The price may even start climbing back up while stock lasts.
there better be a big discount for the 12-35x bundle then
What they need to do is redesign the body, sort of like the OMD, but with strap lugs in the right place, so you don’t have to spend another three hundred bucks, for a grip that makes it as big as 1.5 crop body, just so you can hold the Gawd Damn camera, without getting raw spots on you finger. They also need to minimize the rubber protrusion on the viewfinder and get the buttons where your thumb rests moved, so you are not always changing settings when you don’t want to. Then, when the body is right, they could start increasing DR, low light AF speed and for Christ sakes, get the images to auto rotate, so I don’t have to constantly be turning my images in post.
I agree. after three days with mine I can say the EM-5 has the worst ergonomics of any camera I have owned. It actually hurts my wrist after a while and as a street shooter is is going to suck. I bet they made the kit lens long just so there is something to hold:) Adding the grip would make a huge difference but that defeats the point of a M43 cam. I really appreciate my GF-1 more and will likely sell the EM-5 for something new. In addition it is a real battery hog, while composing it gets hot after a short time and eats more battery in 20 min then my GF-1 does in a few days. If you get this camera buy a spare battery even if you are a casual user as you will need it. What is good about the camera? The IS. It works well but the ergonomics kill the benefit and frankly I would rather have a more comfortable camera. If I could cut off the strap lugs and have it smooth I would, the back circular buttons are poorly shaped and not accurate at times.
It should be interesting to see what happens when people get these and start using them a bit. I have to say that the reviewers like Kia that pointed out these shortcomings were dead on every point. In fact his review was more accurate in actually mentioning the issues which have been glossed over big time. When shooting video the IS works very well but the video is not that great at all and I’m not a video user. I look forward to what Panasonic has to offer and I’m a bit over my EM-5 already. I’m no fanboy of any product but I will say that some reviewers in Asia sure had fanboy glasses on when reviewing the camera. As far as IQ and DR people can go debate the differences because this is not the big issue IMO. Another thing I learned is that I can hand hold this camera in the seconds range and get sharp pictures so I suppose I never needed IS.
Don’t worry though, when you open the box and see how small it is you will be distracted and happy and figuring out all the silly menus will help as well.
TheMaster was talking about the GH3 …. he liked the OMD!
Bullshit! I did not like the OMD, period. Olympus is stupid, they did the same thing with the strap lugs on the E420 and ruined a good idea and just did the same thing with the OMD. Stupid, stupid stupid! Like I said before, the designer of the OMD strap lugs needs to run, not walk, to the Emerald City and see if the Wizard will give him a brain.
Agreed! Put a GF1 next to an OMD and see how it should be done. The EM-5 Lugs are designed by a complete idiot. They ruin the already poor ergonomics and on a GF-1 they are flat, smooth and do not require idiotic ring clips. Why do designers live in a bubble. Perhaps they should use the camera or look at others before being stupid. I really like having my finger poked at when shooting with a big abrupt hunk of metal I will never need. SOme spikes on the back of the body would have been nice. I challenge anyone to go to a camera store and hold these two cameras in their right hand and see how radical the difference is.
Nice Olympus strategy, make the camera so uncomfortable to hold you need to buy a battery grip with no battery for $300. As I said before, the chinese co that makes a compact grip will make much money!
Wow, OM-D is in stock in my little town. But only in black. Waiting for silver.
I was surprised at the funny rubber buttons. Not an ideal button clicking feel. Some are hard to reach. I guess I will get used to them.
The lens is nice. Being able to switch to macro mode is cool.
It will probably be another 3-5 years before stills-oriented cameras (10+ megapixels) with global shutters get to the market. That Panasonic could (or even wanted to) achieve this with the GH3 looks like a very bad bet.
They originally wanted to achieve it with the GH2!
3-5 years? Where are you getting your sources from? You’d think from these blog post that they’re on the brink of cracking it.
My personal checklist for GH3 would be … I’d rather wait for G5 announcement. I want a camera with swivel LCD and it seems that GH3 will not have it. Let’s see how Panny would cripple the G5. And if not very crippled (PUT THE DAMN ORIENTATION SENSOR BACK! PUT THE F***ING EVF SENSOR BACK!!) then I might consider it. Though I’m not letting my hopes too high.
Pretty stupid situation honestly: 3+ years on, and m43 companies still fail to produce a E-620 replacement.
wishlist:
– Improved EVF means improved manual focusing with all non-m43 glass. I wonder if that was their intention.
– Improved iso and dr performance would be great.
– Improved audio monitoring – headphonejack and on screen db meter.
– Improved video codec to match or beat current GH2 hacks.
– Focus peaking.
– photo stitching for panoramic shooting (ala the “Photsynth” app on iOS)
– Wifi, Facebook, and Instagram implementation. Yeah, I said it.
Nice joke, Panasonic. Better autofocus and viewfinder as the major improvement… THAT´S what we all waited for, right? THAT´S what a certain hardworking Russian was trying to improve during the past year, while Panasonic hardly managed to give us 25p. I know, this is just a rumor and we don´t know the full specs, but I highly doubt that we will see more than just a weather sealed GH2 with some higher frame rates. And again it will take some hardworking guys to transform a tiny little plastic toy into a serious video camera. I know, the GH3 will still be a hybrid, but how many of you guys have bought a GH2 because of its stills quality??
or maybe there will be a gh3 and a new high end still and video camera with global shutter that replaces the pannys AF “cinema” line?
I think we will see global shutter but maybe not in the Gh3 body .. I can´t believe panny will dasappoint us this year.. I can´t .. 🙁
While this is still a rumour, it does beg the question as to who this camera is for. I have the GH1 and normally I upgrade every other iteration. I very much like how Panasonic made the GH series very comfortable to hold, not heavy and the lens quality is quite good for the size of prints I make (13 x 19). A major plus for me and which has stopped me from moving to Fuji or Sony are the range of in-camera formats and the very useful pull out back that can be used horizontally or vertically; no other manufacturer has this feature from what I can tell. Still, I would like to see better dynamic range, low light sensitivity improved and if possible a bump up in resolution, or at the very least removing the AA filter. Faster and more accurate autofocus when contrast is poor is definitely an improvement (don’t know if the GH2 corrected this). The video remains excellent. The weather sealing is quite useful (will their lenses be sealed too?) All in all though it appears to me more like a GH2 plus rather than worthy of a 3, especially given what is happening with Sony, Nikon and Fuji. I’ll wait and see.
> or at the very least removing the AA filter.
You can lighten it but you don’t want to remover AA filter completely unless you have that full RGB information giving pixel of this patent:
http://www.43rumors.com/foveon-like-sensor-patent-from-panasonic-flash-sync-patent-from-olympus/
Without AA filter you can get real nasty moiré, just check first two pictures:
http://sulanto.blogspot.com/2012/04/nikon-d800e-onko-se-jarkeva-hankinta.html
Maybe GH3 will few it new Bayer filter so Panasonic have paten on,
W-wR-wG-wB.
I think this not need AA filter like Fujifilm X-Pro1 too, so image only be form by W and w pixel use, so R-G-B maybe only give colour.
The big quis is what light is W ?
Noob questions: is it even possible to cover a super35 sensor with M43 lens? Does the AF100 have better or the same bit depth and dynamic range as the GH2?
The M43 size is somewhat smaller than Super35, so you wouldn’t get full coverage.
Does the autofocus speed really need improvement? The speed is blazingly fast — for still images.
Autofocus during video recording is still rather poor.
It depends on whether they are talking about CAF or not. Big improvements in CAF would be a big deal indeed.
Big disapointment
+1
If it’s just a slight improvement, then I’m glad I bought my GH2 about a month ago. ‘Cause I waited for CES and CP+ but nothing. And I couldn’t wait for Photokina, that’s too long, I want to get shooting.
Costs a bit with the 14-140, but it’s money well spent. Great camera for stills, I especially love the colorreproduction, most of the time it’s spot on. The kit is a nice allrounder to take with you. And then the video… just blown away by it, even at higher ISO (say 3200).
Have been toying around with C-mount CCTV lenses (25mm f/1.4 and Fujian 35mm f/1.7, of which the last one is pretty great, though you’ll need a lenshood against flaring). Now bought an old glass, the Minolta MD Rokkor f/1.7 which I’m eager to start using (have to wait for the lensadapter). That’s the great thing about the m4/3-format, practically can try out lots of different stuff.
A lot of fucking complainers on here!! Be grateful you can have such a great camera for such a cheap price!!
That’s for sure.
its funny that the polls indicated that weather sealed lenses were a top priority for MFT, but so many of you don’t care about a weather sealed gh3. I for one am stoked, I take my GH2 skiing and biking and water dust sealing would make me feel a LOT better. I will be trading in my 2 for the 3 for that reason alone. For those who complain about global shutter…c’mon, you think they are going to put that in the consumer line first? What DSLR has a global shutter (not CCD) for video….none. My guess is that there will be a more professional version of the af100 with avc-ultra and a larger global shutter sensor coming long before you see it on the G line. sure, people buy the GH2 for video (mostly) but Panasonic also sells actual video cameras too and makes more money from them to boot.
Panny engineers admitted that they were already working on a global shutter for the GH2, until they were told to spend that time on their 3D lens instead. So to still not get it (if true) with the GH3 is a major blow for those of us that waited for it since before the GH2 shipped. And weather sealing is a nice and worthwhile feature, it’s just not my main priority.
What the hell have those idiots been doing for the past two years, sitting with their heads in their as twiddling their thumbs?
This crap update after two years?! No one gives a shit about autofocus, and Panasonic lenses are all crap anyways. I guess they are trying to appeal to the brainless consumers who use their toy cameras to shoot their dogs.
I want 1080p 60p (even nicer would be 720p at 120p as a bonus)
headphone input
better sensor for low light performance and dynamic range
equal or larger body, not smaller!
Flat picture profile
better menus
higher res evf and lcd
Also, it better have a swivel screen, not a weird tilt one.
You’re the idiot – and boorish too.
What would you do with a headphone input? I have recorded a kick drum with an NS10 but I don’t think that’s what you mean.
I think you are communicating more about yourself than your opinion on the post.
Just do the best MFT you can panasonic!!!
It will pay of if the gap between mft and bigger cameras from nikon etc. closes in terms of iso per
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Just do the best MFT you can panasonic!!!
It will pay of if the gap between mft and bigger cameras from nikon etc. closes in terms of iso and DR performance. the formfactor will for most pepople be less is more.
Panasonic should try to make the best camera possible in terms of ISO and DR. to close the gap to Nikon and Canon dslrs. the small formfactor is attractive to 80% of the potential byers. They can’t make a too good camera. I rather pay $1000 more and get a non compromise that will last for a couple of years insted of small uppgrades.
What will not come in GH3:
– 120 fps (nope – only in 640 x 480 px)
– better sensor (they will cripple it to 9-10 Steps dynamic range! No 11 steps)
– better sensor2 (they will cripple red channel to keep “baked in” Look)
+ better sensor3 (they sure will lower noise! Because of competition)
+ flat profile (they will implement these! I think its essential)
– no global shutter (not in consumer dslr under 1000 bucks!)
+ HighRes VF and LCD (yes….i think too this will come)
+ AVCHD 2.0 (higher Bitrates up to 50-60 Mbits will come)
– clean HDMI out (nope. They keep the slightly crippled HDMI out like in GH2)
Panasonic will not “threaten” their own Semi-Pro/Pro-Level HD cameras with a consumer GH3. People can hope but the consumer DSLR business at panasonic is small…..other small digital cameras and bridge cameras earn more money than GH1/Gh2/Gh3 will get.
Sony has the best Sensor at the moment if they offers us an GH2-Killer with same Video possibilities……..the 5dmk3 will crumple and wheep.
cheers
I wish they would lower the resolution back down to 12mp or similar. Ideally they would make it so that the extended tele zoom crop mode would yield a 3.5 crop instead of the 5.2 crop it gets now. That would mean that the effective sensor size from the 1080 crop mode would be 2/3″
GH cameras are awesome
GH1 multi-aspect ratio for stills (gotta be the main reason anyone would want to use a gh camera for stills)
GH2 tele-zoom crop mode for video (gives the camera the ability to mount ‘almost’ any lens and shoot HD with them)
GH3….. I remain confident that the GH3 will be a great camera, I’m sure it will have some interesting rad feature that will continue the unique line!
personally, I think giving it 10bit 422 25fps output over HDMI is more important than a global shutter, even though a global shutter would be really nice.
“personally, I think giving it 10bit 422 25fps output over HDMI is more important than a global shutter, even though a global shutter would be really nice.”
You’re kidding, right? I global electronic shutter would do amazing things for video, no more rolling shutter effect!
Neither will we get 10bit 422, nor a global shutter. They will probably try to sell us AVCHD 2.0 (if at all) as the super new standard with super high quality. No need for improved DR or better colors. It´s all about some fancy looking catchwords on the packaging and the product data sheet.