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Hi all
Just a quick rumor to tell you that it has been whispered to me that the XF 10-24 could be announced on November 20 and the XF 56mm on January 6.
These are the last 2 lenses in the actual Fuji roadmap… So I think it’s time for Fuji to release an updated one.
What do you think should be the next lenses on Fuji’s roadmap? Feel free to drop your dream-lens-roadmap in the comments.
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A small and sharp mid tele, like a 135mm F2.8 would be great. I would also like Fuji to rework the pancake adding an aperture ring and up the aperture to F2. Both I’d buy in a heartbeat 😉
The 56mm 1.2 is most people’s ‘dream x lens’ IMO. They just need to release it…
But besides the 56, how about a constant 23-60 f2.8?
23-70 rather.
Gotta have at least 18mm at the wide end for any standard zoom imho.
+1
105mm f/2.0 DC
135mm f2 OIS
Yes!!! Add me to this list.
Yes, please.
Kind of a strange size for a crop sensor? You’d be shooting head shots from 10 yards out, and 20 yards for body shots.
OK, I’ll take a 135mm 2.0 as well, a fast medium tele would really set the X system up nicely. I already have a Rokkor 135mm 2.0 and an adapter, but miss the AF and the IQ of the newer tech lenses like Fujis XF line.
I will have the 56mm 1.2 for head shots and body shots, don’t understand Ryan’s point…
135mm is a classic, long portrait focal length on FF. I was thinking what would happen if applying it for the same purpose on APS-C. I guess if the utilization is more like a fast telephoto, makes more sense.
Mmm, the 56mm on my birthday. Kinda like the sound of that 🙂
For me a 90mm f/2 or around that in terms of lens speed would be my next prime lens choice in the series.
14 (21) – 23 (35) – 35 (50) – 56 (84) – 90 (135) would be a great prime lens series for anything from landscapes to portraits.
The only other future thing I’d need to definitely get rid of parts of my DSLR gear park would be something to rival my Canon 24mm f/1.4 since all my night shots (stars, milkyway and northern lights) are shot with this on full frame, and anything wide and slower than 1.4 is just… slow out there 🙂
So two lenses:
90mm f/2
17mm f/1.4 (23mm is too narrow and 14 f/2.8 is too slow)
6th is my birthday too and was thinking the same!
15mm 4.0 T/S, priced at or around 1,5k USD, would work for me. Wonder how many would still buy the 14mm 2.8 though…
I too would buy a TS but not so wide 23 or so works for me.
Then why not go for the Samyang one? 24mm, 3.5 and it should be available in x-mount soon :).
A 16 mm 2.0 at the same quality level as the 14 mm 2.8 or the Zeiss 12 mm 2.8
Seconding that (though a 1.4 would be better). A dream lens for photojournalism.
85mm f1.4, 35mm f/0.95, 135mm f2
and they should focus now more on lenses rather than new cameras in the lineup.
Yes, I also think about new version of the very good 35 f1.4
to be more concurrent with FF 50 1.4.
So 35mm F1 or F0.95 would be awesome (and with not bigger than 7cm length and 350 gr weight :-)))
What about a rework of the three original lenses to be more like the current 14mm and 23mm? I like the barrel and the quick move between autofocus and manual focus. Maybe an update on the lens design and give us an 18mm at f/2.0… I would really like to see some good screw-in lens hoods…
I’ll second this. The build quality on the 14 and the 23 are much better than the original three primes released. I’d replace my 35 if they released a new version that’s optically the same but with the distance scale and manual focusing of the newer primes.
A fast 85 (1.4/1.8) and a slight tele with 40-120 mm with constant 2.8.
Actually, yes, (85 or 90 would be good), it probably needs to be faster than the f/2 I suggested for the 135mm equivalence to get the same kind of shallow DOF pop as i.e. the Canon 135mm f/2 can do.
Buy a Canon FF. 85 1.8 canon is FF, awesome quality..and very cheap 350 U$
why do you need a 56 1.2 with the same dof of a 85 2.0 ff?
6d ff + 85 1.8 cost like x-e2 + 56 1.2
Because some of us take pictures in dim light and need to use action-stopping shutter speeds. f/1.2 is one full stop faster than f/1.8, so at the same ISO you can use (for example) 1/250 instead of 1/125.
Photography isn’t ALL about getting as little depth of field as possible, contrary to what 36x24mmn “nostalgia format” enthusiasts seem to think…
I want a fast 85, but not f/1.4. f/1.8 or f/2 to keep the size down. I got into mirrorless for the size reduction…if we start having the only lenses be the same size as a bunch of huge full frame SLR lenses, then what’s the point?
I have a Rokinon 85/1.4 when I want super shallow DOF, but I carry an FD 85/1.8 far more often (it’s quite small).
Not all of us got into mirrorless because of the size reduction, at least not strictly that (or even mainly that). Personally, I just hate the mirror contraptions and their issues (back focus, front-focus, focus shift, camera shake, noise, extra weight) and am not a fan of OVFs (though they do get much better as you move up the camera lines–I could live with a full frame OVF, or even probably an enthusiast-level APS-C OVF).
It would be great if eventually there is enough range that, like the established dSLRs, you can buy a cheaper,smaller, slower version, and a more expensive, faster, heavier and larger version of the primary focal lengths.
16 mm high end prime and a fast 90 mm
maybe a elegant metal barreled fast MF 35mm lens ala Voiglander/Leica but with electronic links.
a macro like the Nikkor 105/2.8
+1 !!!
85-90mm f/1.8 or f/2
I’d like a premium mid-range XF zoom with a bit more range; possible faster as well. So, 16-70 (or 16-80) f/2.8 or f/4. Make it weather-sealed, while they’re at it ;).
Longer primes seem to be a bit of a gap in the current line-up as well.
45-135/2.8 – very important lens, equivalent to 70-200/2.8 in 35mm. That lens would be the first lens with such specs for all systems with 1.5 crop.
Pentax 50-135 f2.8 is already there. Do not the first,still would be useful if they can build it smaller. The pentax lens on an X would be to big for me. And Pentax is known for trying to build lenses as small as possible…
sigma 50-150 2.8 OS for 1.5 crop ?
Sigma 50-150 is for FF
XF 55-135/4 O.I.S. would be smaller and lighter than anything brighter/longer. I would be interested in pairing it with the 18-55 on the X-E2. IMHO the point of the X system is combining high IQ with low weight. Therefore f/2.8 telezooms would not fit the system so well.
Dear Santa Fuji, I would like a faster zoom :
55-135mm f/2.8-4
and a few longer primes :
90mm f/2
135mm f/2.8 macro
300mm f/5.6 mirror
Please. 🙂
I have a Canon 500mm Mirror pain to shoot as they have no DOF Rather have a nice 300 F4 to 4.5 to help keep the size down but needs to stay no slower then F4.5 so a 1.4 can be added to the map!
I would like it to be faster too. But I think at f/4.5 a refractive lens and even a mirror lens would be rather big and misbalanced on a mirrorless camera.
“Nice cap !” “Its not a cap, it’s my camera.” 😉
Sony/Minolta made a 500mm f/8 mirror lens with autofocus. I think a 300mm f/5.6 would be nice a equivalent for our APS-C Fuji, with autofocus and maybe even OIS.
Another solution would be a collapsible prime lens relying the same principle as the Panasonic 14-42mm Powerzoom. Unfold it to use it, and fold it back when you’re done. But here again, it would probably remain rather bulky, even at f/5.6, and more so at f/4.
Another idea ? Wouldn’t you find it awkward using a 20cm long 1.4 kg lens on a mirrorless camera ? 🙂
300 f 5.6 would work if you’re talking 200 mm or longer it isn’t going to Balance at all and thats why you have a left hand to put under it! LOL
The lens I really liked but no one makes anymore, is the 18mm-70mm. It was the kit
lens on the Nikon D70. I have the Fuji 18mm-55mm but it’s just too short.
😉
50-150mm f2.8 OS & 16mm T/S. Then its time to concentrate of getting a new range of lenses for the Fuji FF camera.
23(already have it)
56(in January)
+
a high quality holiday zoom (longer than 18-55)
that´d be it for me
85 … 90 mm / 1.8 … 2.0 of course.
Actually I would love fuji to release a 10-24 lens without auto focus 40-50% cheaper !!! This would be ideal for me and everybody else (I believe) taking interiors/ architecture/ landscapes photos and never go under f8..
Probably 18-55 at f2.8 !!! would be awesome.
I agree with Felipe above and will add that fuji urgently needs lenses rather then new cameras
16-70 f/4
and 70-300 f/4-5.6 with similar optical performance as the Canon 70-300 L
or 70-200 f/4
I will ‘tenth’ a fast 135 equivalent! And the 56, the sooner the better! Of course, an announcement on January 6th would mean, what, availability in the US maybe in June?
Like all other announced lenses, delivery in 30-60 days depending on the part of the world.
I dunno, it seems like it was months for the 55-200 and the 23 (I don’t recall about the 14). Or maybe it is just my usual impatience that made it seem that long… 😉
Don’t confuse the roadmap schedule with the official announcement. The announcement usually means it is ready for production. I had my 55-200 in early June. Right now all we have is a rumor about an announcement date.
Really liked to see 85(90)/1.4(1.8), and good quality travel zoom such as 16-70/2.8(4)
a real 35 mm, so FF body not a fake expensive 23
Wow.. You mustn’t have thought that comment through
no more lenses needed.
Would love to see a 135 equivalent, I feel Fuji should at some time re visit their 28mm and how about a Noct 50
They should concentrate on FF at this point.
Fuji please:
16mm f2.8 or f2 designed like the 14mm
90mm 1.8
18mm f2 MK II with internal focus and mf-mechanism like the 23mm
35mm f1.4 MK II with internal focus and mf-mechanism like the 23mm
will you buy all this?
I escaped from my NIKON system as I was caring to much with me.. switching between primes made me tiered.
*I* would buy the 90/1.8 and the 35 MkII (I shoot prolly 90% of the time with the 35, would just at a newer one with even a small amount of improvement).
Yes, new 35mm F1 would be great 🙂
It’s all I need :-)))
X Pro 2! 🙂
As long as they release the 10-24 they would lack constant max aperture zoom; I know there’s no need for a 18-55 f/2.8 to have a good shot but I’d love it instead of the f/2.8-4 (even the latter is really great!). What I’d love most are a good focal multiplier between 1,4x and 2x and extension tubes with electric contacts!
Oh! Is the 56mm lens with that f1.2 aperture?
10-24? I hope in a very good lens.. I need it
I’d like a wider prime lens, something like a 10mm f4.
+1
+1 Super wide prime!!! Not too concerned about max aperture, just as sharp and rectilinear as possible.
Samyang 8mm X-Mount = $300!
That’s a fisheye, though. I think we’d like to see something rectilinear.
The 56mm lens has
been put back maybe March
I’ll join the chorus for a 90mm f/1.8, noting that STABILIZATION WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, Fuji!!!
Beyond that, a longer fast tele is an obvious gap. 150mm f/2.8, anyone?
I can see one new lens added and a reworked 35 1.4 in the next year for the 1.5 cameras If they do FF that will get the floor time?
I have been asking for a 2nd version of the 35mm f1.4 for a while!
Internal focusing and the manual focus feature of the 23mm and 14mm, but without compromising the size would be great!
I’m sure it be fatter. That stuff takes up room and maybe why it didn’t have it to start with. For some small is best.
Weather sealed would be handy I see that coming in the primes and zooms just what ones will get it? 18-55 would be best off to start over with a bit longer faster weather sealed one? the 18-55 is a great lens for me and all that want small but a bigger ( Longer faster ) is needed. A strate 2.8 would be costly, Big too so a f 3.5 stop fits the bill.
These lenses look amazing! Pity the price tag is so high…
From my side, I gave up on them and went for a speed booster + Rokkor 58mm f1.2 + 28mm f2.0…ending up now with equivalent 42mm 0.85 + 20mm f1.4 🙂
Interesting with that 28 f/2 and speedbooster. It might do what I want to do for night shots given that those are all fully manual anyway. Do you have a link for that, ebay or something?
…and btw – I mean the lens, not the speedboster. Is it something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINOLTA-2-28mm-MC-W-Rokkor-Hood-28mm-F2-Mint-for-X700-XD9-XD7-MD-/261123244659?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Objektive&hash=item3ccc288273
(btw – you’re still ending up with the same focal lengths as the lenses have – instead of cropping them – it’s the speed that’s interesting here, so the lenses become 58mm 0.9 (as that is the Metabones max) and 28mm 1.4)
Well, being a Contax G lenses enthusiast, I’d like Fujifilm to work (or at least, help developing) an adapter for the X cameras that can stand autofocus. I mean, Sony has one now, and they are now positioned as “retro” as Fuji. Having the possibility to use great legacy lenses could bring more users to the system than a new lense (except if this lens is a 10-200 f2.8 with stabilization, but I doubt I’ll ever live to see this one).
35mm 0.9 and 18mm 2.0!
Back in the 35mm film age the 180mm/2.8 lens was often used for all kinds of photography. The zoom 80-200mm changed this but a XC 120mm/2.8 would be a great asset to the Fuji X series
Great news to see 56mm in January.
next:
135/2.8 (FF 200mm)
50-135/2.8 or /4 (FF 70-200)
90/2 (FF 135/2)
16-50/2.8
and so on
You’ll see as much as now in January. 23mm was announced 5th September, two months later there is still no 23mm available (in Europe). So add 2-3 month if you want to see the 56mm in your hands 🙂
same for 10-24 – on the market not before January…
I am afraid he 56mm lens has
been put back maybe March .I wish i am wrong.
a faster 35mm like f1.2 or f1 maybe f0.95 ?! you know , darkness is seeking us !
True 1:1 macro and T/S lens and they’re done 🙂
Amen to that!
A longer 1:1 macro would be great. 90mm f/2 macro with OIS anyone? Not going to happen, but I can dream 😉
I used to want one of those too, but Al Valentino has convinced me that a manual adapted is a pretty good answer for that. At least for me, I focus manually for macros anyhow, so native mount isn’t the big deal that it is for the other lenses (but that may just be me).
I agree, and that’s what I use now. The only reason for OSS and AF would be that many macro lenses make pretty nice portrait lenses if they’re fast enough. But if they didn’t add such a lens, I’d be totally happy with what they’ve got.
That’s good news, especially the 56 f/1.2.
After that, a 90mm f/1.4 or f/2 – needs to be fast to be comparable to the Canon 135mm.
That said, an X-Pro 2 is needed ASAP…we don’t need a new camera body every quarter with incremental improvements – focus on a few, and design them extremely well.
16mm f1.8, 18-35mm f1.8, 135mm f1.8 and x-pro2 with 24MP OMOS curved sensor 😉 ah and iso ext control like nikon Df
More compact 23mm 2.0-2.8, super fast 35mm, new 18mm, more tele primes, but most of all I would like to se more lenses from other manufacturers, such as Sigma and Samyang.
Great primes are nice, but a mid-zoom with constant, bright aperture (2.8) very handy for, for example, low-light concert shots.
16mm f/1.4 or f/2 would be awesome news.
And a 45-130 f/2.8 or f/4 would be welcome too.
Didn’t see those I wish to have in the comments. Here they are,
18/16-135/105 mm,
250/300 mm
X-S2! like the Sony RX10
Thanks.
A weather-sealed 16-80 f/4 to match the rumored upcoming weather-sealed body. As amazing as the 18-55 f/2.8-4.0 is, I often wish it had more reach. If they can make this lens just a bit bigger than the Sony Zeiss 16-70 f/4 for the NEX then it would be perfect.
A 50-135 f/2.8 would also be nice although I am afraid that might be too big.
On second thought, I would much rather have a weather-sealed 70-200 f/4 than a 50-135 f/2.8. However, I do think there is room for both.
14-200mm 1.0-1.4 ; )
14-200mm 1.0-1.4 OS and weathersealed, at under 500g and well under 500 USD. That’s the whole wish 🙂
I’ll take the f/1.4-1.8 pancake version. :-p
…resolving 1 lpm in the center (that’s “lines per meter”) 😎
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. 😛
lenses i’d like to see:
90mm f2.5
16-135mm f2.8 – 4
300mm f3.2
18-55mm f/2.8 constant
90mm f/1.8
16-80mm f/4 weather-sealed
16-50mm f/2.8 weather-sealed
50-150mm f/2.8 weather-sealed
105mm f2.8 macro weather-sealed
The first 3 lenses represent some of the major holes in other APS-C systems. If developed, these would draw even more converts to Fuji.
Speaking of long lenses and stabilization… It’s time for Fuji to release a sensor shift IS – in XP2 maybe?…
PS: I’ll pass on “gimme weather sealing” chorus. Never been happy with “weather sealing” of N/C cameras and lenses. A trash bag and a piece of gaff tape work wonders 😎
Profesional quality 16-50 f /2,8 (1,8 would be better but it is unrealistic) and 50-135 f/2,8 both as sharp as possible it is important to me. Weather-sealed it is not important to me
some requests are just funny 🙂
I need a telephoto prime for my X-e1. I need to get in much closer to wildlife, especially birds. I live in the desert, so it is very difficult to get closer than 100 feet from animals without alarming them. I would like something like a 300mm with at f/4 with excellent stabilization. I just think anything wider than f/4 would just be too big. The effort would have to be made to build a lens as wide open as possible without getting much larger than the 50-200 zoom. Much larger and I have to go back to a camera bag that holds more volume than my backpack.
I also would find a prime lens in the range of 88-98 mm at f/1.4 to be a great low light tool.
I think Fuji is 4-5 lenses away from a complete lens library for the APS-C mirrorless group. But I really need that telephoto prime.
If this is your dream lens, get an adapter for your 300mm and use it on a Nikon-1. You’ll get everything you’re looking for.
Thankfully, Fuji isn’t in the African Safari Wildlife Glass business with their X-series cameras.
I’ll never forget how many here whined about the size of the 55-200mm XF zoom when it was released. Now we have people pining for DSLR-sized 200-400+ zooms and wide-aperture, OS telephoto 300mm+ primes.
the insanity never ends
XF 200-400 f/4 OIS with built in 1.4 extender (300mm to 600mm to 840mm at 5.6) (just like the Canon 200-400 f/4 1.4 converter IS, but half the weight and half the price of the canon version)
or a XF 200-400 f4-5.6 OIS
how utterly ridiculous.
yeah, let’s use a Volkswagen to tow a Caterpillar bulldozer.
use a DSLR with your 200-400
As long as it’s proportioned roughly the same i dont see the issue.
Even any longish tele on a FF DSLR looks like a Volkswagen pulling a caterpillar bulldozer. Your not going to support a 300mm 2.8 on a D4 just holding the body of the camera.
I would expect a Fuji 200-400 f/4 with 1.4 internal extender OIS to be significantly smaller and lighter than the Canon version
I expressed my opinion about what I would like in a future Fuji lens, Calking. You are free to express your opinion if you have one. But I will tell you that you will never be qualified to decide what my dream lens would be. And I believe you are probably far less than half of my age because you are obviously still having issues stemming from an adolescent superiority complex.
Well you must be over 100 years old then cuz I’m 51, and if that’s the case, someone else besides you will need to carry your ideal camera / lens combo around for you.
Sure, you’re entitled to want what you want. Tell me something though – when you first were introduced to m4/3 and mirrorless APS-C did you REALLY TRULY HONESTLY say to yourself, “wow — can’t wait to put a 10 pound, 25″+ super-telephoto lens on that little body!”
Really? Seriously?
Or are you just tossing your -02 into this wondermix of “HOPING” that somehow Fuji engineer a 200-400 fast, image-stabilized zoom that’s the same size as their current 55-200mm? Hmmm????
So lets talk facts for a minute, the Canon 200-400 etc is 7.98 pounds, lets round up to 8 pounds. And is 14.4 inches long. $11,800 US.
I would expect a Fuji lens to be designed just for the 1.5 crop Fuji sensor, therefore making it smaller and lighter. So lets say 2/3 the weight and length, that would make it…
5.3 pounds and 9.6 inches, quite reasonable if you ask me. Price 5,000 US.
The Fuji XF 55-200 is 4.65 inches and 1.28 Pounds. So my 200-400 spec would be 5 inches longer and 4 pounds heavier. Seems quite reasonable to me.
A perfect lens for wildlife, and compressing the background. Keep in mind, Fuji will start adding weather sealed bodies and lenses. This one lens would mean that no long primes would need to be made.
Fuji will not stay at 16mp for ever.
A 100mm macro with a 1:1 ratio would be fantastic!
Canon’s 15-85 in 1.2 OS
an equivalent of Noctilux 50MM f/0.95…. Just to dream and never buy it 😀
I just hope that Fuji have left some XF bayonet contacts unused for “future features”. And I have a feature suggestion…
…Leaf shutter lenses. PLEASE.
🙂 that would be nice
+1
well, if you can update the firmware in the lens .. then is a digital conection …
so no need for more contacts…..= we can have leaf shutter
I still believe that all guys at Fuji should go on long holidays, they’ve done a lot for us in such a short time and they deserve proper break 😉
Please give us a wide angle 21-24mm equivalent shift lens suited for these fantastic cameras! The previously rumored 15mm TS would be great.
A longish prime, like everyone else said. 85/90/100 whatever… f2.0ish
A true 1:1 macro
Tilt shift
Constant aperture 2.8 zooms. 16-45, 50-150 probably.
But truthfully, once the 56mm hits. I’m going to be feeling pretty complete. I’ll pick up the 14mm at some point, but would rather see a wider and faster base zoom.
It seems unlikely that Fuji will fully embrace a zoom-heavy high-end lens stable. Making zoom glass as good as the primes they offer would be more expensive and would dramatically lessen the size advantage.
The rumored 15mm tilt/shift would make lots of sense and would be a very unique offering in the mirrorless space. Taking another look at the initial three primes would also make sense. The 60mm is excellent, but slow and only 1:2. The 18mm is not super popular and would benefit greatly from the focus scale feature implemented in the 14mm and 23mm lenses. The 35mm is excellent, but could do with higher build quality akin to the 23mm (this could also be a 1.2 or 1.1 lens). A 90mm f/2 would also be clearly useful.
Maybe they could update the 35 f/1.4 with a quieter/faster AF motor? Same with the 60 macro?
First choice would be a 90mm f/2 to 2.8. Something on the order of a 90mm Summicron or Elmarit. Next a 120mm to 135mm f/2.8 – 3.5. Personally after owning and selling several SLR f/2.8 zooms, I do not need to see any in the Fuji. Of course may want them, just seems to defeat the small ness of the X system.
a true 1:1 macro with good working distance, so probably 75-90mm and extension tubes.
90mm f2
200-400 zoom with tripod collar
300mm prime (not mirrored) with tripod collar
1.4 and/or 2.0 teleconverter
16mm t/s
I think Fujifilm needs to fill out a complete line of lenses to attract more working pros before they start updating the existing lenses.
When they do update their existing line up, as others have noted, I would love a bit more reach in both directions on the kit zoom (16-85vr was my favorite nikkor).
You and anyone else who agrees with you about these missing lenses have lost your freaking minds.
Do you have any concept of how ridiculous a 200-400mm zoom would look attached to a mirrorless Fuji camera? Or what a 300mm f/2.8 prime even weighs? What’s next on your list — a 600mm f/2.8?
You say you’re familiar with Nikkor glass — why don’t you try using your Fuji with an adapter with these Nikon lenses and come back and tell us all about how portable the whole thing is.
By the way, which “working pros” exactly need 200-400 and 300mm zooms that would ever use a MILC for their pro work? I don’t think you know any yourself.
If you want to shoot battleship-sized glass, do it on a proper DSLR. Good God the insanity never ceases.
Even DSLRs look out of place on big glass. A XF 200-400mm or 300mm prime would be significantly smaller than FF Nikon DSLR counterparts, but it would still require a support mount just like FF DSLRs require a support mount to support such glass. Working pros that shoot wildlife and sports use these focal lengths on a daily basis. And those pros use monopods to help support the weight.
The camera business is slowly dying, well, not so slowly in the case of P&S cams. Look at the Nikon financials that were released today; horrifying. Fujifilms latest financials also showed massive losses in their camera division. MILC’s are the future and DSLR’s will be gone in less than ten years. Look at the number of parts in a Nikon 1 vs. any Nikon DSLR. MILC’s much cheaper for Nikon (or anyone else) to manufacture. How many Nikon DSLR users would have switched to Fuji X System if Nikon 1 had a DX (APS-C) sensor in it? Why lug all that extra weight of FF glass around just to have a silly mirror box; that’s freaking insane.
I am going to take an African Safari someday and I hope by that time I do not have to lug around a D800 and all that massive glass. MILC is the way to do that with no loss in image quality. Fujifilm have put all their eggs in the MILC basket. You better hope DSLRs die off soon, because if they don’t Fujifilm’s camera division and our beloved XF system won’t be around much longer.
MILC’s are capable of a lot more than street shooting. Just because YOU can’t imagine a use for such glass doesn’t mean others haven’t.
I completely agree with you about the future of MILC / APSC and even FF Mirrorless. 100%. In fact, I’ve seen examples of people using exotic telephotos with adapters on m4/3 and nikon-1s.
I think someone who’d dare to do that should be commended, in fact. It’s cool.
What I find utterly ridiculous myself, personally, is a hope that Fuji allocate the time and engineering into developing super-tele, fast-aperture, image-stabilized lenses which — even if they were possible — would be massive in comparison to “normal” focal ranges, not to mention so incredibly expensive that they would be unaffordable for all but the rich. Look at the cost of Nikon’s super-tele primes starting at 200mm and 200-400 zoom. Anyone other than a professional wildlife shooter like Moose Peterson would RENT glass like that before ever buying it.
So yeah, I can’t envision a near-term future where we see Fuji manufacturing exotic super-tele lenses like you describe. Do you? Really? When do you see that being a reality? It’s taken them just over a year from the date the XP1 was announced to deliver the normal glass they have as of today — and the pending WA and 56 prime yet to come.
I would go so far as to say that IF Fuji were to announce a 300mm f/2.8 prime at $2500 in the year 2015, know what Fuji users in forums like this would say?
“Why did they make this? What I want is ……(something normal)…”
But I’ll tell you this — if it happens, and they do come up with a set of killer super-tele primes like you want, you let me know and I’ll buy you dinner. 🙂
16-55, f2,8 !!
Ohhhhh please let’s just have the XP2 there’s enough lenses out there for the moment we can all dream about the f/l that we would like and how fasts lens it should be but reading all the above you’d need a wheelbarrow to carry them around
Den
16-35mm f2.8
35-90mm f2.8
16-90mm f4
Wow, look at this outpouring of wishes!
Fuji is really onto something.
XF 16 2.0 R
XF 35 1.4 R II
XF 90 2.8 R OIS (or XF 90 2.0 R)
Amazingly ridiculous.
Announce one or two useful lenses the masses have been clamoring for, and what do you get?
More clamoring for more lenses yet. Nothing is ever, ever good enough for the forumheads.
Okay, that’s kind of a ridiculous statement when Patrick literally specifically asks us to post what lenses we’d like to see. Maybe you’re just posting in this forum to indicate how much you are so over posting in forums, but this sounds a hell of a lot like negativity for negativity’s sake.
How many positive comments on these two just-announced lenses are there in this thread compared to wants for something else?
What we have is Fuji doing a great job covering useful focal length product married to their X-cameras and gas thrown on the fire of what we should be wishing for instead. Call that trolling if you want, but I’m looking to see how many people actually are happy about the pending releases. Doesn’t seem like too many based on what many would rather have.
Trolling camera sites is lame, Calking.
Have a gander at Dennis and Markus comments above. They must be trolling too….
Yeah, yeah…I know….ALL of us should be wishing for something else, better, different, faster, smaller, cheaper, lighter, cooler, better looking. Toss your hat in the ring….
I also love Fuji gear — you’ve got a lot of “real” trolls on here hating on Fuji or fanboying other makes.
Peace
Can’t see Calking trolling here – I agree that most of the suggestions are, well, not the best. 16 2.0 when there’s a 14 2.8 and 18 2.0? Ok, I get it, they’re not EXACTLY the same, but they’re close enough that a step in front / backwards will solve the problem, and should cost roughly the same (at least the 14mm 2.8 and the 16 mm 2.0), and have kind of the same weight…
Do we want a prime for every focal range and at least 3 zooms covering the same focal range? I don’t. I’d rather they did something different than make a medium tele with constant 2.8 aperture and than a slightly longer medium tele with a slightly larger aperture.
Something like what I suggested, Adrian and Calking. Try re-reading my first post. And Calking, When I bought my X-e1 it was precisely because when a 300mm telephoto is built for an X-mount with an APS-C sensor, it is likely to be quite a bit smaller than a 459mm for a full frame camera. I don’t plan to be walking the streets of Bangkok with a 300mm lens on my X-e1 anytime soon. I hope you can visualize someone wanting to do nature photography with a smaller rig than a full frame camera requires. I am also very surprised to hear that you are already 82% of my age.
I’d like them to rerelease all their current and future lenses with weather sealing.
If they can do that plus a weather-sealed APS-C X Pro body with a lot better AF and good 24Hz video, I’ll be completely sold on the X system and pick up their sealed 14, 35 and 56.
Also, I agree with them releasing a 90mm f/2 IS lens.
a 90mm f/2 , a 135 mm f/2 , and a 100mm f2.8 1:1 macro would nearly complete the system for me. Then perhaps release a new 35mm f/0.95…
That said, an X-Pro 2 is needed ASAP – make it 24mp, similar colour filter as X100 original (if it really is better than X-Trans, I don’t know), and, of course, no AA filter.
If the rumored to be released upcoming X-Series camera (January announcement) has those specs, it will be very interesting and perhaps smart on Fuji’s part, as there would be room for it in the lineup, as it would satisfy those who don’t like the X-Trans colour filter. If it truly does have richer tones, I would definitely consider buying it.
I see many wish lenses that are now very realistic: fast zooms, specially longer than 55mm would just be too big and heavy, would they do this people would instantly complain “what do thy think, it is too big/ heavy”.
But it would be reasonable to ask for a medium fast longer prime, maybe a 90mm f2,8 or even 2,0 or so. That would be like a 135mm.
I personally would love to see a 16mm shift lens, but I am aware that this is not something a majority will want or buy.
Plus: an updated sensor, that 16MP APS starts to get a bit old. Pentax has just released a stellar rated K3 with 24MP that really challenges FF cameras, not just in marketing documents like Fuji.
XE 2 as a second camera and the new XPO ? with 24MP fast focus to replace dslr as a first camera
Meh. These two lenses plus the 23mm would be a complete system for me. Maybe throw in that XC 50-230 later on for the odd occasion I need to shoot far.
I’ve heard about but never seen a leica lens called the Tri-Elmar which i believe isn’t a zoom but has 3 selectable focal lengths in one lens (28-35-50). Something like that might be intriguing.
I often feel that a zoom is cheating, but i don’t like carrying loads of lenses and changing them in the wild but i do like being able to change from wide to short tele. I’m not sure how the ratios work but a lens that allowed me to switch between 35mm and 70mm (equivalent) might be a really nice lens. or a 28,56,112 equivalent.
I agree about a Fuji tri-elmar. That would be brilliant! As Zack S said, Leica did the wide version and medium version, but a 28-56-84 equivalent would be an ideal travel lens (28mm gaps), although I’m not sure how big that would be depending on F-stop.
Isn’t a lot of the point of the X- series the fact that they are small bodies with light lenses? I sold all of my Nikon stuff and now have an X-E1 with the 35 f1.4, 18-55 & 55-200. It all fits in a fairly small bag. There is no way that I am going back to carrying a big bag with a lot of fast lenses.
Once the 10-24 comes out I am done buying lenses for a long time as they will meet 99% of everything that I could do with my previuos Nikon kit.
On the other hand I really like the idea of a Fuji Tri-Elmar. Three fixed focal lengths in one lens would be pretty cool and. Leica made two different versions, one was 16-18-21 f4 and the other was 28-35-50 f4. Both were around 11oz. Thouse would make a nice travel kit.
16mm f2.0/2.8, not bigger and heavier than the 35mm f1.4 (but I’m pretty sure the gap between the existing 18 and 14mm lenses is too small for Fuji to place another lens)
135mm f2.8 macro (1:1 would be nice, but if it drives weight and size too far up, I’d be content with 1:2 )
Well I am done buying lenses. I have the 14mm, 18mm-55mm and, the 55mm-200m. that’s what
goes in my small bag. I also have the 35mm and 60mm.
How I want the X pro-2
1. XF 16-80 f3.5-5.6
2. XF 16-50 f2.8
3. XC 16-50 f3.5-5.6 Pancake
That’s it…!!!
Next on the roadmap?
Simple, a new suite of Full Frame lenses, because that’s where the market is going.
I did a comparison of camera sizes recently, and Fuji are in danger as their APS cameras are all on large side.
The X-Pro1 very much so, as it is almost precisely the same size as the Leica M (might very well have been a dicision made on purpose)
Becaue Fuji will have to go FF, a follow-on X-Pro1 may not happen, instead resources might be used for the next FF line.
A key question in Fuji’s case is whether the mount will work for a FF sensors. If that’s the case, then the interiors of the X-Pro1 have to be shrunk, and it could be launched as a FF camera, as could all of the other bodies. Huge savings in engineering.
FF lenses is a different matter, it is not something than lends itself to a linear upgrade. It is back to the drawing board, which is why the Lens roadmap is there, making new lenses takes time, because it is man-hours, and computer hours, and then a different approach.
I’m not so sure. going FF is a major step, likely rendering all current lenses obsolete. On top of it, new FF versions will have a different form factor, bigger, heavier and also more ugly, look at all this massive Nikkors and Canon glass. And FF is just a hype, one that will disappear when everyone has a FF camera. In technology, there is only one direction, going smaller, lighter, more compact and refined, not the opposite way. Look at this Nikon Df, I cannot think of a Fuji having this size and looks 😉 . It would be better that Fujifilm releases the X-Pro2 in APS/C format, with an organic sensor, twice the dynamics of a D800, virtually no noise in the pictures and an unseen color accuracy, with an autofocus that is faster than Olympus, what more is then to be desired, be honest?
The X series cameras are large enough to house FF sensors (mms, and grams):
Leica M240
139 * 80 * 42, 680 (body)
X-Pro1
139,5 * 81,8 * 42,6, 450 (body)
X-E2
129 * 75 * 38, 350 (body)
Sony A7
127 * 94 * 48, 470 (body)
X100s
127 * 74 * 54, 330 (body and fixed lens)
Sony R1R
113 * 65 * 70, 482 (body and fixed lens)
So it is possible to have either FF or APS in cameras of this size. The choice is where you want to position your product price/performance wise.
The Fuji X cameras work for prints with a long edge of 100 to 150 cm, when you look at the picture, and not the pixels.
FF sensors will bring the print size up to 200 cm as a rough estimate.
I am not suggesting that FF will or should be the only line produced by Fuji. Other manufacturers have both APS and FF in their product lines.
The current lens lineup for the APS cameras is fine once January 2014 has come.
The key point is whether the Fuji mount works in FF, then Fuji do not have to redo their bodies.
A FF ‘X100s’ camera should be possible to house in the current X100s body, once it is fitted with a different lens (the Sony R1 shows that it is doable, and actually smaller, but lacks the optical viewfinder).
The X-Pro1 and the others that have interchangable lenses are also in housings large enough for FF sensors, but whether the mount is large enough for a FF sensor is not something I know. If it is large enough, then a FF series of cameras can use the same housings.
That would leave Fuji with the task of designing a new series of FF lenses, which in itself is a major developmne task (witness the time it has taken to do the current APS lineup).
FF lenses will be proportionally larger and heavier, and more costly to make. This is why several prodict lines are possible.
Some cusotmers will want the smaller tools, that restrict them to prints less than 150 cm long edge, and others will want to make 200 to 250 cm long edge prints, spend more and carry a heavier bag.
27mm 1.4 pancake
dreaming of pancake 6-1000mm f/1.0 🙂
That Nov 20 release for the 10-24 went well
the 10-24 is postponed, but the 56 will remain on January 6.
56mm 1.2 is exactly what I dream of…
I already have 14mm, 35mm (both awesome), now only need to catch a fat, rich santa coming with 56mm in his sack and my primes dream would be complete.
Then I would only need a zoom for a tele, 55-200 would do nicely and my love to Fuji would be satisfied.