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FUJIFILM PRESS RELEASES
Fujifilm X100T / Fujifilm Graphite Silver X-T1 / Fujinon XF 56mm f/1.2 APD / Fujifilm XF 50-140 f/2.8 WR
FIRST LOOKS and SAMPLES
FUJIFILM X100T: Dedicated Fujifilm Website / Fuji’s sample images / Zack Arias first look at dedpxl / First look at the-owl / Promotional Video /
FUJIFILM Graphite Silver X-T1: Promotional Video /
FUJINON XF 56mm f/1.2 APD: Dedicated Fujifilm Website / Fuji’s sample images / Nathan Elson image samples / Patrick La Roque image samples /
FUJINON XF 50-140 f/2.8 WR: Dedicated Fujifilm Website /
DECEMBER FIRMWARE
10 further improvements coming soon via a planned firmware update*** [ELECTORNIC SHUTTER: This functionality will be installed via a firmware update planned for December, 2014, for both the X-T1 Black and the X-T1 Graphite Silver Edition.]
- (1) Direct selection of AF Area
The update will let users select the focus area using the 4-way controller, without pressing the Fn key. - (2) Unlocked AE-L/AF-L buttons
The function of the AE-L/AF-L button is currently locked, but will be interchangeable, depending on the user’s preference. - (3) Variable Focus Area during MF
When working in Manual focus mode, the update will enable changing the size of the focus area during Instant AF with the AF-L button. - (4) Direct selection of Macro mode
In Autofocus mode, the update will enable the Macro function to be turned on or off, without accessing the pop-up menu screen. - (5) Q Menu customization
To make the Q Menu (used for quick access of frequently-used items) even more efficient, the update will allow its items and layout to be changed to the user’s preference. - (6) New video frame rates
As well as the existing 60fps and 30fps selections, 50fps, 25fps and 24fps options will be available with the update. 50fps and 25fps allow video editing in the PAL regions, such as Europe, without converting the frame rate. 24fps offers a cinema-like view. - (7) Manual shooting in Video mode
The update will enable ISO sensitivity selection prior to shooting videos, as well as the ability to adjust aperture and shutter speed during movie recording. - (8) Phase Detection AF support for Instant AF
In Instant AF mode, which is operated by pressing the AF-L button during manual focusing, the update will enable Phase Detection AF, providing faster focusing speeds. - (9) Interlocking of Metering and Focus areas
Users will be able to interlock the AF area position with the Metering area when Spot Metering mode is selected. - (10) Expansion of shutter speed in Program Shift mode
In the current Program Shift mode, the slowest-speed setting is 1/4sec, but this will increase to a maximum of 4secs.
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Dang I was really hoping the X100T would be weather resistant and that they would announce the 18-55 WR or 16-55 WR. I hope either of those lenses are out by Christmas as a kit deal with the X-T1.
Any notes on price and specs of the 120-400mm telephoto?
Wow the optical viewfinder on the X100t seems amazing. Rangefinder-esque focusing. Awesome.
As I understand it has nothing to do with real rangefinder focus. It’s just little 100% magnification EVF inside of OVF. But it’s great anyway!
It’s much better than real rangefinder focus:). Split image, peaking, enlargement, or just autofocus accuracy check. This is a digital world, I don’t feel the need for a real rangefinder.
They had better offer the same new X-T1 December firmware features for the X-E2 as well, or else I’ll be utterly disappointed in Fujifilm!
I completely agree. I am strating to feel really disappointed with the X-E2 not being listed for any of those firmware upgrades.
So much for the Kaizen approach, this looks rather like Apple’s planned obsolescence… I would not mind if some Fuji staff had not stated in interviews that remote control and intervalometer functionalities (to cite only two) were on their way to X-E2.
It appears that having started dropping the price on the X-E2 it would be cannibalizing sales of the X-T1 (black and grey) given it appears to be pretty much the same camera except for viewfinder and some AF tricks.
Fuji please don’t disappoint us !
By looking at the dedicated X100T site I have quite a hard time figuring out what is actually new features that weren’t available on the X100S… Seems the market every feature as new and revolutionary.
X-T1 firmware upgrade seems weak. No classic chrome?
Or electronic shutter to 1/32000?
These firmware updates are for graphite silver version, so no CC or ES is needed. These will be included in updates for black version.
Yes, If you pay attention to asterisk, the lone asterisk “*” placed near Electronic shutter indicate it will come in firmware update for black edition and from its launch for the graphite silver edition.
Thanks little lone asterisk! I reckon E. (silent) Shutter + 50-140 + 8fps will make the Xt1 a formidable camera for live music, conferences etc etc.. Kai Zen !
Classic Chrome and 1/32,100 are also included in the new firmware upgrade (via Fujifilm Japan Official Facebook Page)
Which functional improvements has your current employer given its users via firmware upgrade so far?
Pre-order placed. 🙂
thanks 🙂
Do you know if any of these new cool firmware features will come to the X-E2?
Pre-ordered the XF 56mm f/1.2 APD using your link. Thanks for all the great infos and rumors! Always a pleasure to read 😉
you’re welcome… and thanks a lot for your support. you keep this blog running, thanks
Pre-ordered the XF 50-140 using the link on your site. Made a slight donation so you could at least get yourself a cup of coffee to better make it through your day tomorrow. Thanks for all the hard work.
thanks a lot for the coffee 🙂
Well. No guessing about firmware updates for x-t1 black now. We’ll get the list up there + classic chrome + electronic shutter in December.
That’s a VERY important question though.
ELECTRONIC SHUTTER This functionality will be installed
via a firmware update planned for December, 2014, for both the X-T1 Black and the X-T1 Graphite Silver Edition.
No improvements in the lens of the X100T. Same lens as in X100 and X100s. I will skip the T and wait for a X200 with new lens design.
Thanks for letting us know. I’ll go call Fuji to make sure they are aware of the situation 😉
These two I hope will/should fix dramatically the awful “back button focus” functionality (hence improving one of the big issues of the X-T1 for me):
3) Variable Focus Area during MF.
8) Phase Detection AF support for Instant AF.
(Patrick, are these rumours or the improvements that are being announced now/today?)
Didn’t know why autofocus was horrid (never locked) with Instant autofocus, but it did ok with Continuous focus (half pressing the shutter)… can’t imagine why they castrated the focusing with AF-L/instant in the first place…
It seems Kaisen is to put back balls again to castrated machines 😛
The faster shutter is not there, so it’s not coming? or the announcements haven’t finished?
New high-speed electronic shutter with a maximum speed of 1/32000sec.* **
* This functionality will be installed on the X-T1 Graphite Silver Edition from its launch. A firmware update planned for December, 2014 will install these features on the X-T1 Black.
** The Electronic Shutter may not be suitable for fast-moving objects. Flash can not be used.
Source: http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n140910_02.html
Wow… so 1/32000 is official for the X-T1 (but won’t work for fast moving objects). Nice addition to shoot wide open on daylight without ND filters… one less thing to carry around
“The Electronic Shutter may not be suitable for fast-moving objects. ”
Yeah, because of the “rolling shutter” issue…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter
Massive announcements? MASSIVE????
well, 4 new Fuji X-gear at one time + firmware announcement. I never had to live blog about so much gear simultaneously.
A x100s firmware update with classic chrome would be nice. For me the picture is made when I hear the sound of the shutter. Thus “pre-setting” the jpeg is very important, and the possibilities that Fuji offers to do that where one of the reasons for me to buy an X. Playing around with a niew film simulation mode would ad a lot of fun to shooting my camera.
…and anything that improves the AF with the TCL. Just glad I got used to the manual focussing options when shooting with the converter.
Anyway we live in glorious times- just think back of the times when we carried around dozens of film rolls and batteries. The “picture quality & convenience / equipment weight” ratio has become fabulous. And every year things get even better and better. A joy to follow this evolution, and from time to time take a leap and adapt one’s ways to the new stuff.
One can hope – Zack used x100s with classic chrome featuring custom firmware from Fuji for some time.
OK on this page http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n140910_02.html it clearly says the electronic shutter and 1/32000 coming to existing xt1 in Dec. It has 3 asterisks next to it
First triple linear AF motor, first apodization lens with autofocus, the X100T features and the X-T1 software improvements – with this approach, Fuji will be a photographic technology leader in five years. This is another big leap forwards, for such a progress many traditional manufacturers need decades.
Thanks Fuji. Even if these are 3 updates to already some good products (X100T, X-T1, 56mm APD) and one really new product, I’m happy to see some small fixes and updates. I also like the fact that Fuji supports the existing users of the X-T1 with some improvements to a camera through Firmware updates while with most of the other manufacturers would want you to buy a new camera. HOWEVER, I somewhat feel disappointed because I expected more news… (X-PRO2, organic sensor, maybe already some news on the 90mm) Maybe still to come, but some of us have been waiting already a long time now for info on this. The X-PRO1 was announced January 2012 and is considered to be a dinosaur in this fast-paced technologic world. The organic sensor? I could even believe that they stopped working on it, since so few news have hit the surface over the last couple of months.
So true, Michel! I have an X-Pro1 and I feel they almost forgot about the “flagship” of Fujifilm. They were busy with the new models and honestly, I am jealous of the upgrade series for X-T1.
Who knows whether there will be any organic sensor coming out, but given that Photokina is 6 days away, I would hope these announcements are just to whet the appetite before the main event.
Regarding the 50-140 2.8 (to be added to firmware upgrade list)
– The AF+MF function enables seamless manual focusing. After pressing the shutter to autofocus on the subject, fine adjustments can then be made using the manual focus ring.*7
*7 A function allowing seamless manual focusing by rotating the focus ring while pressing the shutter halfway during AF lock. A firmware upgrade is required for the camera body in order to use this function.
(Applicable models: X-Pro1 / X-E1 / X-E2 / X-T1 / X-T1GS)
Well. We have to wait for 56 vs 56 apd comparsion now. I like the 56 bokeh and can hardly imagine it can be 1.5 times better (as price is 1,5 time higher). Although as I understand APD version includes 0.9 ND filter that costs something. So price difference is little bit lower.
Following Nathan Nelson’s post, I think it is a slightly better lens than the 56mm f/1.2R with somewhat more contrast and 1 stop less light coming through with the same aperture, which sometimes can make the difference. However, most of the advantages can be gained with the 56mm f/1.2R in post-processing, so I wouldn’t exchange the previous model if I already had one.
I’d say it’s pain to repaint bokeh manually. Why do you think fuji didn’t implement PDAF? I mean, what’s the technical problem? Does apd filter has something to do with phase change?
There’s not that much difference in bokeh (and not to start a discussion on how subjective bokeh can be) but more difference in the contrast between the right out of camera shots…
It should be a big difference in the bokeh!
But at longer distances these differences are less good to see. So better flower and portrait work with shorter distances.
Furthermore 1:1 compariosn images would help a lot.
I have made some with my tinkered apodization lenses:
http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/Apodization-Filter.html
I understand exactly what you mean, but I think the test work of the two reviewers is exactly what this lens will be mostly used for by most of us, full body or from the waist up portraits… I don’t think the difference will be that big for these kind of shots… I would understand it if you would use it for macro work or headshots or close ups, but this is not the lens for those kind of shots, right?
And let’s not forget there is no phase detection AF, which will result in slower focusing. Using an internal filter, the camera can only use contrast detection.
Why do you think there is no phase detection? I can’t see any information about it.
See the links above for the first hands-on reviews by Nathan Elson and Patrick La Roque. There you have more information on how the lens performs
Is there a silver X-T1 + 18-135mm combo available somewhere?
Patrick- Probably too early to even ask but I would be curious how long it takes to read the entire sensor when using an electronic shutter. I understand that each row of pixels can capture at 1/32000 but all rows cannot be read at once. Seem to recall one of the Panasonic models taking 1/10 of a second to read everything.
Thanks for your hard work these last few weeks. You’ve been right on the money!
I hope it’s higher than 1/10sec… Not being able to photograph bullets is not a problem but at 1/10th even portraits in contre-jour will be difficult, that would very much diminish the advantages of this electronic shutter.
I hope it to take at least 1/60 olympus has. 1/10 was first CMOS electronic shutter ever. Things have improved since.
It must need at least 1/60 or you’d get terrible rolling shutter when shooting video or looking through the EVF and moving the camera even moderately quickly. In fact I’d be surprised if it was slower than 1/120.
video has lower resolution. you can’t take it into account. on the other hand olympus has 1/60 so fuji has to have at least the same.
Ah true I hadn’t thought of that. Still the Oly will be using a totally different sensor as it’s m4/3.
Yeah. But ther resolution is similar.
The X-e2 is discontinued then? Or just unloved by Fuji? No firmware update so much for kaizen
Yeah XE-2 needs some love! soon.
Spare a thought for the X-E1 users out there. Colour focus peaking Fuji, please!
Agreed ! My X-E1 feels alone but I won’t trade him before huge improvement (X-pro2 or whatever with supersonic AF and better IQ)
it’s time to switch to x-t1
There is a planned update for the xe-2 in November or December (can’t recall) – according to Rico
I still consider the X-E2 to be a current generation camera… it’s a shame that Fuji has moved on from it so quickly. I can understand why the X100/X-Pro1/X-E1 are not getting firmware updates…. but baffled by the lack of X-E2 love. I’m guessing it’s to clearly differentiate between the X-E2 and X-T1 performance wise, to justify the price difference.
Can’t wait for a firmware upgrade that includes all those firmware tweaks and maybe wifi remote control. That would be awesome … even I like the X-T1 I don’t want to waste the money to upgrade for a same-sensor camera
X-T1 performance in the X100T body is ok for me to upgrade from the X100S.
I really hope the buffer is also the same, and so the overall reactivity of the camera Good news also the 700 shots in OVF power save mode, so optimistically 500 shots will be assured.
In the press release I can’t find anything about weather/dust proof, nor about how the AF-C is supposed to work (if is the same as X-T1 or just as it was on the X100S). Am I missing something?
No thumb-rest among the accessories indicates maybe some problems with the new drive button placing, I hope not…
X100T doesn’t have weathersealing, unfortunately.
sigh, I sold my “old” x100s fot that reason (…for street photos..under rain..it’s very useful..without umbrella)
http://500px.com/photo/54102740/untitled-by-mauro-tandoi?from=user
bad update from imaging-resourse: “Fuji rates the X100T as good for 25 JPEG frames at full speed, down from 31 frames in the earlier camera. However, at the lower speed, you should now be able to manage to shoot until card space or battery power run out, where in the past there was a buffer limit of 44 JPEG frames. Raw burst depths aren’t yet available.”
I don’t care much about jpegs, but I hope this doesn’t impact on raw performance.
X100T looks amazing, probably not worth upgrading from an X100S for, but a massive improvement over the original X100. Definitely getting one in the next month or two.
That’s the point, isn’t it? A product should be good enough to allow its users to skip a generation and wind up with a relatively good upgrade. Photography is a mature business, and now that digital photography has settled past its first flush, it’s similarly mature. Reinventing the wheel every two years just isn’t going to happen, instead you get baby steps.
The X100 users are going to be all over this like a rash, and us X100S users will get some of the benefit of the X100T developments after the dust settles. We’ll probably end up buying the X100F when it gets rolled out in 2016. At which time, the X100T owners will kvetch over it not being enough of an improvement over their camera, while we will think the improvements are more than justified.
Personally, I think this is a better scheme than having to invest in a new camera every two years.
That being said, I’ll still check the camera out, as it offers just enough ‘better’ to be tempting. Sometimes, that’s all it takes.
I’m X100 user but I’m not upgrading. My plans are retire X100 with X-Pro2 so still have to wait 🙁 at this rate may have to buy two X-Pro2 as my X-Pro1 is also nearly worn out from daily use.
Sigh. Still no direct access of flash exposure compensation (or will the
new firmware allow adding it at least to the Q menu?).
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really looking forward to the “December-Firmware”
for my X-T1 (and hope they will cover the X-E2 too, as I own also this beauty) !!!
But I use the X-T1/X-E2 flashes quite a lot as fill flash and it drives me nuts
to have to dive the menu for flash exposure compensation…
if the x30 firmware is a template for the upcoming configurable Q-menu configuration then yes: http://www.fujirumors.com/first-look-fujifilm-x30/
Same sensor, same processor, same lens. So some of the improvements (especially improved AF speed) must be solely software-based.
That explains why there hasn’t been any “Kaizen”-firmware for X100S in 1.5 years – they didn’t want to keep existing owners from spending lots of money for the X100T.
Which is too bad – X100 got plenty of improvements over the years to keep owners happy, while X100S owners now find themselves in the same poor situation as owners of cheap P&S cameras.
Could also be a new focusing motor, but who knows. I seem to recall a firmware update that brought WYSIWG in manual mode to the X100S couple of months ago. Nobody said that was the last one.
I only remember the one update for the tele converter.
That was in April. I’m talking about the update in November.
I’m not seeing a great deal of innovation on the X100S firmware updates, but it also may depend on when you got your camera and what firmware it came with.
http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/firmware/x/x100s/
Sweet! Now, will someone sell me their old, outdated, and crappy 56mm so you can purchase the minty fresh, sexy 56mm APD? Such an outdated old lens… sell it to me for cheap! hahaha.
I offer mine for 50$, this paleolithic piece of gear need to be replaced fast !
I didn’t understandand with new fimrwre x-t1 will have “silent” shutter option?
Yes.
good!
Are there any news about the improvement of auto iso function in the X-T1 with the firmware update?
Yes. LaRoque or Elson mentioned exposure compensation now bias auto iso in manual. Hooray!
Booooooring announcement, what happened fuji? No more real innovation, just marketing.
Imho different (partial) story: your have not to switch from x-t1 to x-t1 silver for new firmware improvement. 1/32000 etc. fujfilm pay much more attention to its customers needs instead…others brands.
I hope the X-E2 isn’t being thrown under a bus here. It should get the firmware update too.
sorry, I don’t really see what’s new here, apart from the 50-140 which was on the roadmap anyway. Perhaps with the X Pro 2, we will see something genuinely different or perhaps we’ll need to wait until there’s a real sensor breakthrough. I suspect the latter. Am perfectly happy with my X-E1 and see no likelihood of being tempted to upgrade for quite some time to come. Which is good news for my finances!
IMHO what is good news here is that we could have gotten nothing more than these updates for Photokina. Now that they’ve talked about it, there is only the “bigger stuff” left to unveil.
IMHO what is good news here is that we could have gotten nothing more than these updates for Photokina. Now that they’ve talked about it, there is only the “bigger stuff” left to unveil.
I thought that Fuji were somewhat beyond this minor update refreshment cycle, however it seems they are not. The X100T, despite how much Dpreview are talking it up, has pretty minor changes and personally I haven’t any reason to change my X100S. But of course now it’s not the latest model. So thanks for ‘devaluing’ my camera Fuji.
The alternative bokeh enhanced 56mm lens and the silvering up of the X-T1 are hardly anything to get that excited about, but there is a genuinely new product in the 50-140mm f/2.8. A serious pro. spec. lens with what I imagine will be excellent OIS. It is however 5g shy of 1kg, so it is a monster. Lighter and cheaper than something like the Nikon 70-200mm but a pretty heavy duty (in all senses) lens nonetheless.
It would have nice if we actually had something radical, like a better battery, because despite all of this we all still need to take spare batteries out with us and of course have no way of knowing how much power we have left.
Finally, interesting comment in the Dpreview X100T piece, “And this (the video), more than the stills image quality, makes us consider the
‘what if’ of Fujifilm going back to using a Bayer color filter layout.” Now that would be interesting and for some of us a good reason to buy a minor upgrade.
So upgrade to lens hardware isn’t exciting, but a better battery is radical? Oh and you want the lens cheaper and lighter but still attractive and heavy duty? And even more revolutionary to go back to bayer? Magic 🙂
If I actually wrote anything like that I might consider a reply. But since I didn’t I won’t.
Nothing like that?
“The alternative bokeh enhanced 56mm lens and the silvering up of the X-T1 are hardly anything to get that excited about” -> So upgrade to lens hardware isn’t exciting,
“It would have nice if we actually had something radical, like a better battery” -> but a better battery is radical?
“…so it is a monster. Lighter and cheaper than something like the Nikon 70-200mm but a pretty heavy duty (in all senses) lens nonetheless.” -> Oh and you want the lens cheaper and lighter but still attractive and heavy duty?
“…makes us consider the ‘what if’ of Fujifilm going back to using a Bayer color filter layout.” Now that would be interesting and for some of us a good reason to buy a minor upgrade.” -> And even more revolutionary to go back to bayer?
I see what you mean. No resemblance.
OK. You’re right I’m wrong. I bow to your superiority in all aspects of understanding and intellect. I am obviously not worthy to even question you.
Now can we move on?
Wow. Sure. So I can question your discussion but anything I say is shut down ad hominem? I guess we’ve moved on by definition, unless you’d like to have another go at me rather than what I’m saying.
Hi Patrick, I just read this offer on twitter
“Get a FREE battery grip worth £199 when you pre-order the xt1 silver
on Wex Photographic”
Live split image focusing in OVF is a hell of improvement for me. I’m very exited to see it in the next gen x-pro. Finally a huge step towards OVF usability. I mean, isn’t it a game changer for you folks?
OMG epic fail on all levels. fix da flash system and give some love to xe2 pls!!!!!!!!!
Sad you can’t remenber what was said only a few weeks back: there will be a firmware update for the xe-2 around November/December time
Am I correct in assuming that if a firmware update to the xt-1 gives you an electronic shutter then the flash sync is then potentially much higher than the existing 1/180th sec.
Moving 1 step beyond that if the firmware update could also be developed for the xe-1 the same could be true.
OOOOh please let that be true. The x-trans sensor is fantastic but you really do need decent light to really make it sing.
No, the flash will not work with electronic shutter
Oh no…that’s tragic.
I thought that’s why the x100 series with the electronic shutter had such high flash sync shutter speeds. 🙁
it was leaf shutter inside lens in the x100 series
oh ok thanks.
The leaf shutter in the X100 series is still in the X100T. It is simply joined by the electronic shutter if you feel the need for crazy-short shutter speeds.
Unfortunatelly you’re wrong. Flash sync speed is several times slower with electronic shutter. That’s why you can’t use flash with electronic shutter at all. CMOS electronic shutter can read every line as fast as 1/32000 but it can’t do it simultaneously for all lines. It takes a lot longer (I hope at least 1/60) to read the whole sensor. That’s why it helps a lot with still very bright shallow DOF scenes but has nothing to do with action or flash photography.
Expanded exposure bracketing?
“Is that all there is”? Massive… just disappointing!
1) The ‘new models’ announced are not providing any true leap in technology, merely in looks and firmware. Presenting a Ferrari-alike concept with a revamped 4 year old diesel engine equipped with a weird Fuji-specific injection pump doesn’t impress me, at least. Even not with a 1/42000 shutter that nobody needs. Or are we in 2014 just caring about the looks and not the content? Again quite a bit of niche-filling: Fuji, give us a real V12-engine.
2) Unless there would be a surprise, see Fujifilm’s own Photokina statement: no X-Pro2 neither a MF-camera. How not to replace a 3 year old top range model but revise the X100 for the third time is getting strange. The only possible conclusion the X-Pro1 must be extremely unimportant in sales numbers. For those that believed in thE X-Pro1 like me to be some kind of true Leica M killer, well, maybe we should have sold a kidney instead to buy the real thing it would at least kept us from a lot debugging on our backs, firmware misery & poor market support in terms of RAW-conversions.
3) The 56mm APD: a lot of people will be disappointed that Fuji couldn’t release this lens right from the start. I think most of us would rather have liked a better version of the 35mm with finally a faster AF and give it APD instead ;-).
4) No pro-flash line
5) The XF50-140 F2.8, well yes,…? Of a very limited use & interest for most of us. Too short for nature, too long for event shooting in most cases. but looking at competition they have to offer a 70-200mm alike kind of something to kill as ‘so standard’ in the DSLR world.
6) Again a new firmware, God, I was already missing one for a while, but it’s only for the X-T1. No 4K upgrade 😉 , ‘some’ improvements. With all those gimmicks raising more and more the question – how compatible is the user interface from one Fuji to another? All too complicated stuff for most of us.
7) All this X-photographer blabla … well Fuji needs to do some marketing to let the market believe Pro-DSLRs are obsolete now. They could be if theyreally decide to put a next step forward and spending R&D-budget to real designated changes and technological differentiators instead of creating graphite silver bodies.
Boy, I sound negative, but I had really other expectations from a company that wants to be some kind of MLIC-market leader. Maybe head to the Sony booth instead to see real changes?
Yes, you do sound negative.
1. It’s not so much a Ferrari with a four year old diesel engine. More like a good BMW with a four-year-old diesel engine with its management system revamped to improve performance and economy. In other words, a good BMW (except they use a 25 year old diesel engine design, because the car world gets the concept of ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ now.
2. X-Pro1 will be probably be replaced in mid 2015. It will probably be shown at CES. It could even be the surprise event at Photokina next week, albeit in very mocked up form. As it might for the 16-50 f/2.8. That’s the thing with the whole ‘what have you done for me lately’ demands of punters; Fuji is announcing late 2014 models now, not 2015 models. It has always said the X-Pro2 is a 2015 launch. Show it now and you will be pulling the wings off the company for not launching it tomorrow.
3. The more I think about this lens, the more it screams ‘skunkworks’ project. It springs out of the 56mm, because it’s an easy add-on to the 56mm development. It’s not a redesign.
4. Agreed, but there is still discussion of flashes, possibly at Photokina. I know that’s a whole week away and mayfly-minds can’t process what a week is, but it might be an idea to hang fire on this until the show starts.
5. It’s a move to make the Fuji system more attractive to pros; if that succeeds, longer lenses follow.
6. Fuji needs to pick a button layout and stick with it. But firmware upgrades are a good thing. It would be good if the firmware updates could be applied more universally, like to the X-E2. I suspect this might be the case, but the top-line discussion is about the X-T1 based on the new finish.
7. It’s a marketing-led world out there. Everything has to be the fastest, the best, the shiniest, and the newest, or else people just forget the thing exists. A new finish for the X-T1 puts it back in the spotlight a little, and that’s better than needing to come up with an X-T2 a year after launch and upset all the Fuji faithful.
I think you are right about the Xpro1 sales, I’m sure the XT1 is outselling it 10:1. Rather than a revised XP1 style XP2, I think they would be much better off releasing a pro camera in a similar style to the XT1, but with built in battery grip, true 1/8000 shutter, new sensor, improved AF and twin card slots. Like a scaled down 1DX. I would pay £2k for that, and it would balance well with the new 2.8 zoom lenses.
They did announce a large format camera though: http://petapixel.com/2014/09/10/fujis-new-instax-wide-300-brings-large-format-instant-photography-new-generation/
+1 – I was wrong 😉
Come on guys, I think Fuji is doing much better than other camera company. There are lots of fresh blood in the whole system, which means they are working on the mirrorless! And that’s why I jumped into the Fuji boat.
But Flash line is waiting for some upgrades!
What a massive letdown. Still the same sensor, still the same old lens…when Fuji first hit the market with the X series, I had high hopes for its progression. However, consumer gimmicks like wifi, simulations etc is zero interest to me. I’m sure most fanboys think differently, just my opinion.
Because the sensor was the special thing about the X100… or the lens. ^^
Still the same great sensor, same great lens. Even better hybrid view finder and better AF performance. Man it’s a crime, how could they do this to us!?
Gotta love how people take it so personal if someone sees Fuji for what it is…a novice consumer targeted product. It’s a camera. If you love, shoot it. No need to stick up for your beliefs.
Wow. To all the whiners and haters here: Take a good look at an X100x and at any other camera below 6000$. See the difference in the top left corner? That is the point of the camera and that is where the hardware improvements are.
That’s how you spot a photographer in a bunch of measurebators. From the photographer’s perspective, X100* has a viewfinder in the top left corner. For the measurebator, that would be top right.
BINGO!
I know I am a photographer, and one that will spend the rest of my life getting better at my craft. It matters not what tools I use as “I” am the most important tool of all. Take that and shove it in your FF 50MP muti-point PD Auto everything Hello Kitty pie hole!
I prefer the viewfinder on the XT1, hopefully they will bring out a x100 style camera with that viewfinder. I don’t care it it means it doesn’t look like a leica anymore.
It is curious to see people demanding more and more technology, as if they already own every Fuji cameras and lenses, and they already made most of them. This is more spec porn than a real need.
One of the best things about the X100 and that made it a game changer was the way to work with just the basic regulations (aperture ring and speed dial) and the HVF, not the 1000 specs that could become 1100 six month later and so forth.
It had some shortcomings and most of them were solved by firmware updates and makes it a good camera even now, but as you know there will be always people that want a new toy every x month and blame manufacturers if they don’t provide them all the new gadgets…
Fuji’s samples look awful. Airob’s shot looks like is coming from a cheap point and shoot…
Good luck getting that color and contrast from a cheap point and shoot. Good cameras are also good at small apertures.
I’m talking about the X100T.
I am probably in the minority but I was hoping for a new Fuji flash. Oh well.
I don’t think your in the minority at all… 🙁
This is how it goes. You make a revolution, then you evolve. This is American way. Or you make a revolution, then another revolution, and again, and keep revolutionizing… that would be Africa.
Don’t get me wrong, elephants and lions are cool, but I choose America.
that would be sony:)
I have high hopes that Sony will introduce yet another lens mount at this Photokina.
Just for lulz.
Haha brilliant
Wouldnt surprise me if they did, their track record of sticking to things is rather spotty. I cant bring myself to jump to the A7 simply because Sony have a poor record of firmware upgrades, a poor record with new lenses.
If I can praise Fuji its at least they are releasing lenses and releasing firmware upgrades (although this is no excuse for rushing unfinished products on the market)
Still the choices for mirrorless are rather weak, we have M43 with inferior image quality.
FF Sony with all the issues, ie bugs, poor lens selection and over priced lenses.
Nikon 1, puny sensor.
Canon EOS-M, wtf?
Fuji, rushes unfinished products to the market and fixes them later.
I was hoping for the new Kodachrome picture style in the firmware update too 🙁
It is coming with this update in December.
When you read the whole announcement – it’s there:
3. Classic Chrome Film Simulation mode brings more creative power to the X Series*
and below:
* This functionality will be installed on
the X-T1 Graphite Silver Edition from its launch. A firmware update
planned for December, 2014 will install these features on the X-T1
Black.
These features are:
– classic chrome
– “raw” preview in VF
– and finally a 1/32000s electronic shutter
RGB histograms?
So if all these improvements are coming via firmware updates why should I wait for the new XT1? Just for looks? I want to pull the trigger now but is there any reason to wait?
Thanks in advance
Who knows with Fuji, X-Pro users have been left in the cold with a crippled unfinished camera.
Have doubts the firmware will be ready by December, seems rather poor to release a camera with features promised but not available when it’s released.
Have they even released a proper working focus peaking yet?
OMG talk about drama. There is nothing crippled on the X-Pro 1 it is what it is and is perfectly capable. I used it for years before the X-T1 and it has its limitations just like every other camera.
When looking at one’s images It is just easier to blame the equipement : oh I am the new Cartier-Bresson but can’t show it just yet because of my crippled equipment :))
Why don’t you just leave this forum? You’re already sick of Fuji.
Juan, I’m already using an XT-1 with great pleasure. I’m really looking forward for the release of that new firmware. I like the way Fuji is listening to their customers and how they constantly improve their products. You can’t make a mistake. Go for an XT-1 one, get familiar with it. The new firmware is only a few days away. And in the meantime enjoy your hobby. Shooting is still the most important and interesting part of all.
What a joke, another unfinished Fuji product released on the market.
Firmware won’t even be ready till December, so why bother releasing the camera now?
Well… that’s what camera companies do. They sell cameras. If they worked on it and waited with a release until everything is perfect there would be no cameras to buy. At all. Go ahead and make a better one. 😉
Or, there would be fewer, but better cameras on the market with fewer, better brands behind them.
Not with my premise.
You know it is ridiculous for most people to start building a camera. But, Japanese companies made it possible that cheap alternatives can hit market. Japan is a place where every idea, no matter how crazy, will hit market.
And that is why there is a proliferation of makers today, and most of them make the exact same camera, or have no target market, or simply make to meet what their competition does.
The only thing innovative that has hit market in the smaller-than-MF-mirrorless world in years is the hybrid OVF from Fujifilm. Everything else is iterative with current technology.
Unfortunately, Fujifilm couldn’t design a great, staid interface upon which they build cameras. On the one hand, they understand that it’s technology at the core, on the other hand, they misunderstand that they need to cater their cameras to the best part of the market, not to the part that doesn’t care.
Catering to the wrong part of the market will spell doom. Or, in the absence of other best-of-worst choices, it can spell mild to wild success. But, it never aids innovation.
I’m not sure I follow anymore. I thought canon rebels and sony nex where for those who doesn’t care… And get great success and sales actually.
Those who do care – enthusiasts and pros are a much, much smaller market, generating much less revenue.
Enthusiast products are actually meant to be half backed, that’s the point, it’s like overclocking your PC – you get better performance at the price of stability/usability.
I am part of a number of enthusiast markets. In every single one, enthusiast products are more poorly designed for use than their consumer cousins. They either run hotter, commit more noise to signal, or are made to lesser standards. Enthusiasts are like, ‘but I get a ‘better sounding’ or ‘more powerful’ or on and on.
They care very very little for the repeatable results and think of themselves as martyrs for the enthusiast cause. In every single enthusiast market, utility as a metric of ease of use, drops by a scale.
If a company designs a product to meet enthusiast expectations, they design a fractured item. If they design something to fit their finite, precise expectations, and design to a plan, not an adaptable map, the product moves forward on well-oiled cogs that stand the test of utility.
Fujifilm started X with some good ideas: easily identifiable settings: aperture, shutter speed, recently ISO. They left out hard stops, half stops, and a few other items that exist in cameras with great interfaces like the M, whose half stops, exposure wheel that marks only exposure speed, and that places all other functions in separate, unique compartments.
Eventually hard stops came to certain lenses. Why were they not there from the beginning? Poor planning. Ditto labelled apertures (yes, even for variable aperture lenses, for which countless forebears exists), distance scales, and finally, even exposure speed was dropped from certain X (same brand, not an off-shoot) cameras.
Lenses gained clutches rather than at first boasting instant manual overrides, and gained layers of interface to do simple things like select half-stops on an aperture wheel. You have to go to another control to fine tune. Why?
Bad planning. And now, a mere three years after its introduction, X as a series is incredibly fractured. Buttons are strewn all over, have migrated from east to west, and make the same camera (X100) impossible to blindly operate between generations.
This is all evidence of planning to fit the hopes of enthusiasts not to fit a studied, plodding user interface and design.
Say it, say it… right, as already exist for years in the major DSLRs. I think over time, people will get more and more frustrated by this new generation X-series stuff with is indeed more based on a kind of enthousiast niche-filling, instead of a real masterplan. We can suspect the firmware concept of having serious shortcomings too. It is unusual that for each new lens release, almost the complete X-series camera range requires a new update. Some of these firmware updates were even bit ‘masking’ this relationship, packed in that golden ‘kaizen’ wrapper of providing new, complicated features nobody ever uses. As long as Fuji can maintain a kind of software-cloning from the original X-Pro1 firmware, this approach will cause no severe issues. But let’s wait until a new sensors and the next generation of a graphical processor comes in. Gradually cameras will be abandoned, older and replaced lenses will receive no further updates as it is impossible Fujifilm to keep on upgrading everything all the time. What we’ll see, is that people will have no other choice than buying new cameras and/or lenses if they want to follow new X-products. My feeling is now pretty much that this system was designed by ambitious marketeers and software engineers, it is all far too much computerized, instead of leaving the conceptual design to a generation that was involved in the TX/GX/Hasselblad kind of stuff. That is the reason why the X-Pro1 has been such an icon of real software-related problems, it’s more a computer than a camera and the worrying part is that also the lenses are designed in this same mindset of ‘software does it all’. In other words, there might come a day that many of the proud ‘DSLR-ditchers’ will discover that if you want a stable and longterm investment, MLIC is not the way to go. I’m speaking in general now as I suspect some other manufacturers to be not so much better in this regard. And precisely that is the crossing where Nikon & Canon are waiting for to come in again, the second wave and this time they will win the war.
That’s not true. Fewer manufacturers never led to better products. The simple rule of economics: more competition – better products.
Besides – people vote with their money, I would rather buy a half-baked product from fuji, than a sony or anything else in the price range.
It’s not the number of manufacturers that makes the difference, it’s the percentage of good manufacturers. If there were only two camera manufacturers and both were good, they would play one against each other to outdo each other.
If others came in and weren’t able to keep the same level of perfection or focus, they would appeal to a lesser, less critical market.
Competition leads to better products only if the incumbents are trying to make better and advance. Competition leads to price wars, that’s about it if the entire market is shit.
I argue here: the Fujifilm are not aiming high enough. They are aiming at fanboys rather than perfectionists. The problem is that fanboys are the easiest to please.
Well, there were two major manufacturers until recently, one invented CMOS, the other hasn’t really done anything.
Innovation came from the outside. Was it Olympus who spinned off the whole mirrorless revolution with their first digital pen, btw?
Coming back to fuji – are we talking about firmware update for X-T1 or smth else? The changes to come are merely UI polishing. The only more or less significant change to me is the metering interlocking with focus area. If that was released with X-T1 from day 1 will it be aiming high enough?
I am talking about the breaking of the X interface. That includes hardware and software. First, we had dials that decided everything. Then, because Fujfilm kept changing things, their functionality had to be offloaded to external controls. The X100T, changes the hardware interface yet again, and offloads new functionality yet again to external controls. Each new lens conforms to one of six different lens hardware interfaces.
Nothing is being tweaked within its original confines. Functionality is being tacked on. This is anti intuitive for practical, natural use. It is a problem. Fracturisation of the user experience is the truth of the X series.
And other than me there are only a few people that seem to care. Why? Because we are so used to poor interfaces that anything goes. This is the biggest problem. And it will judge every single camera/lens that comes along until a real interface (not just skin deep) revolution comes along, allowing utility that goes far beyond mere dials and knobs.
A very good statement. Fuji seeks to seduce the 4/3 crowd, they have become their biggest competition. They are no longer aiming to compete with Leica M with a better X. What strategy brings in the most money?
it is not as if they were releasing a camera w/o a firmware. They release a camera with a promise to make it better in a couple of months time.
What is it with people always crying after the half empty glass and never seeing the half full part of it ?
Don’t want it ? don’t buy it! Simple enough. or wait ’till December when the new firmware will be released.
He’s already sick of Fuji. Just leave him alone. Or even better: just ignore such kind of well-poisoning-people.
Patrick: time to rename the website ‘Fuji-crybabies.com’. Oh…my…gosh…Taking personal offense at the decisions of a game-changing electronics company. Grow up. Vote with your dollars if the products are so bad.
Billy pointed out that the weight of the 50-140mm F2.8 is 2/3 of the Fullframe 70-200mm F2.8. Question: How is the Image quality ? 2/3 too or 1/1 relative to Fullframe ?
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I’d say they were pretty clear about what their opinion about that was
too. And with the amount of elements in this thing, and this many ED elements, and Super ED elements, it will be a miracle if it
doesn’t impress.
And please understand that ‘fullframe’ is no measurement in quality by itself.
That 50-140 F2.8 needs a (1.4x) teleconvertor !
Patrick, does FUJI has plans to make a TC for this lens ?
Jep. And a 2.0x as well!
I mean, the new oly 40-150mmF2.8 (about same barrel length, I estmate same weight too) with a 1.4 convertor has a ff equivalent maximum focallength of 420 mm, double of Fuji’s.
Less important -because of IQ degrading- but nice to now, the digital convertor built in the E-M1 doubles the maximum to 820 mm.
I don’t mean to troll here, just for comparison.
Question: When was the last time you had a major breakthrough in your photography skills??? Do you have extraordinary advances in the quality of your work every year? Oh, you must all be the Kwai Chang Caine of photography, masters of all styles. Get a grip folks, the X100T is a nice camera and was built for a specific user segment. Maybe you are just not that segment and should look elsewhere. I moved on to the X-T1 and love it, but I miss the rangefinder so I will be jumping back to that format. What brand I am not sure RX2? M 240? X100T? who knows
I think this is frustration that many amongst us share. I wanted to leave the DSLR realm for a rangefinder, considering Leica for many years. But the budget wasn’t really there. Then came the Fuji X100. Well why not, I bought it. A lot of pleasure to play, but an extremely quirky and not very really reliable tool, not something for what you can trade in your DSLR. Then came the X-Pro1. I thought, well this one must be the new Contax, Fuji knows as no other how to do it, a real M-killer. After about 6 months of complete confusion, poor RAW support and other AF-frustrations I wanted to sell this damned prototype alike piece of over-computerized gear. At that point of time it started getting a bit mature… And I can’t live with an EVF-only camera, not even in graphite silver look, so I’m still stuck with that old X-Pro1. Contrary to all these positive posts I’m one of those that started appreciating his DSLR gear even more after purchasing this X-stuff. Don’t misunderstand me: Fuji is really having a lot of potential, I still like it for particular missions. But the X-Pro1 completely missed its target… it should have been a perfect FF XF camera from day one, having the same sensor as the RX1 and with a regular CFA, the same (and better quality) finishing as the X100, I’m sure that this kind of Fuji X-Pro1 could have received completely different appreciation in the market and the last Leicas ever would be exposed in a display somewhere in a museum close to Wetzlar. 😉 I don’t think that will ever happen – I bet the X-Pro2 comes with the same 16MP sensor and the few new tricks we see in this X100T.
Wow. These firmware updates sound fantastic!!! Can’t wait!!
How refreshing to read someone who is unequivocally happy, thanks 🙂
sup wit the X100S price drop tho!?
So. A 56mm version 2. An xt1 with new color. A x-100 version 3. And a 1kg lens. Can’t wait until photokina 2016!
You already know what Photokina 2015 is gonna bring us ?
Photokina is only every other year…
Thanks! Didn’t know.
I’m giving in. The X-Pro will be parked, full time, on my telescopes, and I am buying that silver X-T1. It’s simply too good looking to deny. Sure, it’s a $200 premium for a paint job, but my car’s paint job cost $6000, and my house’s cost $8000, so it’s all relative.
I think I will wait for x200 and a new improved sensor. I just don’t think there’s enough updates on it for me to get it. I might get the x100s now that the price will drop.
X100s will only drop to $1100 most likely, for the extra $200 I’d rather get all the updates
I’m quite happy with the firmware updates to come. Especially the full manual control for video and it’s awesome that Aperture and SS are adjustable while recording (my nikon only allowed me to adjust SS unless I was using a lens with a true aperture ring). The AF improvements are nice and I’m excited about the live view mode. The new shutter speeds are quite intriguing – can’t wait to see that in practice. The only thing it’s missing for me is 5-7 frame bracketing with expanded stops and manual focus peaking during video record.
Just preordered the X100T. I’m really happy with this upgrade. A tiltable screen would have been nice, but you can’t have it all. Can’t wait for November!
Is there a hardware limitation for enabling electronic shutter speed for the X-E2 and other X models?
It seems like not. At least no limitations in x-t1.
Any idea if the x-e1 firmware will be updated also to include the applicable changes? Many of the promised features would be invaluable changes to X-E1/X-E2.