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NEX-7 rendering from Tecnofotografia (not the real camera!)
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Sorry if I didn’t post anything about the NEX-7 camera since a very long time. But there is a good reason for that. Sony itself was evaluating the current [shoplink 3003]NEX-3/5[/shoplink] response from the market before to define the NEX-7 specs and release date. I still don’t know those specs but I can give you a few info from my good sources.
1) The NEX-7 is coming by early 2011 and before the A77 announcement! One source told me that the NEX-7 will be announced in February-March.
2) Unlike the NEX-3/5 the NEX-7 has a built-in EVF. I heard the EVF should be very advanced and use a new OLED technology!
3) The NEX-7 is optimized fot video recording but unlike the older rumors it doesn’t come with ExmorHD. It will record 1080p with AVCHD 24mbit/s (same as the Panasonic GH2
4) I received some specs from unkown sources but I am currently trying to “squeeze” more info from my trusted sources. Take it with a grain of salt but one new source (also not reliable for now!) said the NEX-7 will have In-body stabilization. I repeat take it easy, I also don’t know why the NEX-7 should have in body IS
I didn’t find any NEX-7 news on the world wide web. Only [shoplink 4664]asian eBay resellers (Click here)[/shoplink] are speculating with a NEX-7 release 🙂
I rated that rumor with SR4 so some things could not be entirely correct. I really hope to give you far more precise details soon! I also need your help to get more info about the NEX-7. If you want to share some “rumor” feel free to contact me at sonyalpharumors@gmail.com or use the contact from on the right sidebar. Thanks!
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Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
SR1=probably fake rumor
SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources (60-80% the rumor is correct)
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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um… so, what really makes the nex7 better than the nex5, an EVF?
More external controls? Manual control for video? Better sensor (the new 16MP one)? Better ergonomics and menus? Of course the EVF. Maybe in-body IS?
In-body IS should be there so that prime lenses (new or legacy) can have IS. And because Sony already has the technology, so why not use it?
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same thoughts ))
How do you know it’ll have manual controls for video? this is something that could easily be added to the nex5 through a firmware update, but is purposely not being done because it’ll cut into their vg10 sales. so, why should this be an exception?
As far as the IS, Sony has already stated that installing that device would bulk up the camera to the point where it’s no longer an NEX size camera, at that point you might as well just get an a55. It would be counter productive considering that most e-mount lenses have optical stabilization anyways.
I personally don’t care much about the external controls, and I don’t see how that warrants a new model
If you don’t care about external controls then you aren’t the market for an advanced camera. The lack of an EVF, ISO dial, dedicated white balance button, bracketing controls, AF mode dial, and most importantly the missing hot shoe have all started to bother the crap out of me with my NEX3. While we’re at it I’d also like a leather/rubber grip and far more substantial build quality (preferably weather sealed). I want something more like a Epson RD-1 with an EVF.
or maybe I just know how to shoot great pictures without having to change setting every 2 seconds. Just sounds gimmicky to me.
I’d rather have a clean looking camera that has a few custom buttons, rather than the entire menu scattered all over the camera in the form of buttons.
But then again, that just wouldn’t be “Advanced” enough would it. After all, that’s what photography is about these days right… LOOKING advanced, rather than BEING advanced.
@AVESTA
” that’s what photography is about these days right… LOOKING advanced, rather than BEING advanced.”
Clearly that’s what it is:
“I’d rather have a clean looking camera that has a few custom buttons”
Lol. There’s nothing gimmicky in having external controls. In fact I would really like to see your great photos!
I’m all for simple, I think cameras have gotten far to convoluted myself. However the NEX3/5 are simply lacking things I need. Explain to me how I can mount a pocket wizard to a NEX5? What if I want to shoot in the rain? Why would anyone want to use software to pull up a virtual mode dial instead of just using an actual dial on the camera? The Ricoh GXR is near perfect for an advanced user, something like that is what I want; but with a built-in EVF. The current NEX cameras are fine little cameras, but the are severely lacking in tactical feedback.
“Explain to me how I can mount a pocket wizard to a NEX5? What if I want to shoot in the rain?”
I never said anything about mounts or the construction of the camera… I actually have the same problem with the nex. It’s people who keep talking about the lack of buttons that bother me.
In a perfect world I think the camera would have 3-4 buttons on the outside that you can set to be whatever you like. But looking at the picture in the post, it pretty much has the entire menu just scattered all over the back of the camera. This is just unnecessary…
@vlad I never said there’s anything gimmicky about hanging ANY external controls, but having THAT many… because people keep whining about how the nex5 lacks external controls. Seriously though, people want a shortcut to focusing point? how often do you need to change that since you need a freaking shortcut. just put it to center, focus on whatever you want, and move the camera to frame your picture. it’s that simple.
“In fact I would really like to see your great photos!”
not sure why this comes off sounding sarcastic
@Avesta Personally, I don’t care about the focusing point either, but I really do think that the NEX needs a few more buttons. Anyway, I understood your original comment like this – I don’t need to change settings or have an advanced camera, I can take great photos anyway. Sounded a bit pretentious, so that’s why I asked to see your photos. I don’t think I intended to be sarcastic. Of course, if I misunderstood, my bad.
+1
Built in stabilization alone will be a worthy upgrade
I don’t think the upcoming CZ prime will have optical stabilization in it?
According to Dpreview NEX review the 18-55 kit lens offer AT LEAST 3 stops advantage when using the optical stabilization.
The only reason i want Built in stabilization is for the upcoming CZ lens mostly so i kinda wish if Sony would release full specs about the upcoming CZ lens and their G Fast Zoom lens.
>> dedicated white balance button
I’ve heard that after the firmware update you can assign various functions to the soft buttons (like WB).
That rendering is completely surreal. It should have minimal controls in the back. Looks too much inspired on the actual A700.
Looks like they stuck an extra half camera on the right-hand side.
Even prosumer oriented controls will be a great improvement.
+EVF
If they implement in body IS it will be must have camera for old prime manual lenses.
Hope on more fps movie modes
Any word on the design of it? Is Sony leaning more towards a mini-DSLR or a rangefinder-type body with the EVF in the top left corner? Man I hope it’s the latter.
You should put In-body stabilization in the poll and it would take likely teh most votes.
Any older lens and there are many people that are getting NEX only to mount nice Leicas, voigts etc would love OS. NOt too mention birders with their 500-1200mm telescopes.
Finally, some NEX-7 rumors! Way-to-go!
EVF is logical, I just hope it is incorporate to the extreme edge of the camera, much like a rangefinder because it is easier to look through (camera doesn’t hit my face).
Oh, and finally Sony puts its OLED tech to use…
Sack that guy who says it has inbodystab. That’s just stupid:P
I still believe NEX can be a very competitive alternative of DRF (digital rangefinder). This system is a good compromise between DSLR and DRF. In theory, it has the strengths of both and has less shortcomings. Overall, I’m looking forward to seeing this NEX-7, a stepping stone to NEX-9 (hopefully FF).
+1 for NEX-FULL FRAME, this is what I REALLY want.
I am VERY dubious about claims that there will be a NEX 7 with the types of features listed in this and several other blogs. Why am I dubious? Such a camera, featuring true 24p HD at 24mbps video and in-camera stabilization would kill the VG10, A33, and A55 (unless the NEX 7 is priced at a point significantly above the VG10). The in-camera stabilization would arguably also seriously cut into IS E-mount lens sales. Why on earth would Sony do such a thing?
Because the NEX platform is the future.
Think about it, the NEX and the A55 share the SAME sensor…all the NEX needs is improved lens selection and a handfull of features (easily done).
Here’s where the industry as a whole is going:
SLT is replacing traditional DSLR (because who would buy an A500 when you can have A55?); and NEX will slowly replace SLT.
“NEX will slowly replace SLT” – that won’t happen. Sony clearly stated that NEX is designed as a mid-point between SLR and compact cameras. Something for people who want DSLR quality in small packaged. SLRs whatever in form of SLT or DSLR will be kept as solution for advanced armatures.
People are going to buy E-Mount lenses whether the camera body has IS or doesn’t have IS. Primes simply need in-body IS. However for and telephoto lenses (and video) it is usually better with it in-lens. This is the best of both worlds, leave it up to the owner to decide when using a lens with built-in IS.
As fas as the VG10; am I the only one that hopes the focus more on photography with the NEX-7 than they do with video? I’ve used video exactly one time on my NEX3, and that was just a test video the first day I got it. I understand video is important to some people, but I hope Sony focuses more on photography with this model. Videographers already have the VG10, us stills guys have been waiting for an affordable alternative to the Leica M8/9 for years now.
The Nex actually has the same sensor as the A33, not A55.
I’m not a videographer, but it seems to me that dedicated video cameras are very different from even high-end DSLRs even when the resolution is the same. Video cameras have very different controls and form factors. I doubt the people seriously considering buying a VG-10 would consider a NEX format body.
As for the A55, it’s like a NEX 7 will sell for the same price as the pretty inexpensive A55 — if not a higher price. And I’m sure it costs less to make since there’s no mirror box at all. So I doubt they’re probably not too concerned about cannibalizing the sales of the A55. Sony would be smart to make the very best camera in both segments (DSLR and compact mirrorless) and let the best format win.
DSLRs have actually become relatively popular among film makers: “Video capable DSLRs like the Canon 5D MKII have been rapidly embraced by professional and indie film makers for what it can do, but not because it is by any stretch of the imagination a professional video camera” (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/camcorders/cam-cam.shtml).
HD DSLRs are great solution to people without money. But that’s all. If you have cash – video camera is much better. Especially in matter of sound output. (PCM sound? Ever heard of it?)
True, but i hope changes soon. At least 60D has input volume control.. It is possible to buy double XLR preamps and plug it in Any camera with jack input – cca 300$.
External audio device is still pain, but best quality
“HD DSLRs are great solution to people without money” – Hardly! The Season Finale Of ‘House’ was Filmed With a Canon DSLR: http://www.pcworld.com/article/194158/season_finale_of_house_filmed_with_canon_dslr.html.
“Sony would be smart to make the very best camera in both segments.”
I think you are confusing “segment” with “technology.” And if there were two segments, I would agree. However, as soon as you start talking about a prosumer Nex 7 with IS, EVF, and lots of buttons, you put it in exactly the same segment as the A55, A33, and other DSLRs. As for investing in technology, a company would be foolish to invest millions of dollars to develop a camera just to hedge their bet. This isn’t what companys do. Sony didn’t develop Beta and VHS; they put all of their eggs in the Beta basket. They didn’t invest in HDDVD and Blu-ray; again, they put all of their eggs in one basket.
It looks like 2011 is going to be a promising year for enthusiasts. It would be wise of Sony to introduce each time a more sophisticated body: NEX-7, A77, A950. Such policy would encourage people.
There is only one sad question. It’s been a very long while since the last rumor about A750 was around. Does it mean abandoning the idea completely?
Good point about the release schedule of A33/A55 matching the NEX3/NEX5.
It looks like NEX7 will also be released in tandem with the A77 (both expected in the same year).
This then begs the question: We know there’s going to be another Sony FF, the A99, at some point. Given the trajectory, should we also expect a Full Frame NEX at or around the same time the A99 come out? Interesting to speculate….
They have a hard enough time getting out APS-C E-mount lenses as it is. And isn’t part of the mirrorless advantage its small size?
I have a feeling that will depend on how well the third lens and the double kits sell. As people have mentioned, the NEX has thus far been catering both to people looking for something different as well as folks that want that compact camera design. I’m not sure if the latter are so willing to buy the kits, but I’m not from Japan and thus have no idea about the demographic decisions there to say.
Otherwise, they’ve been blatantly suggesting alpha glass to use for the NEX system with their inclusion of all these SAM lenses that recently released conjoined with the AF-capable adapter. Add to that people’s obsessions to adapt old lenses to the NEX system and you have a system that Sony seems more interested in body-wise rather than lens.
Don’t get your hopes up. Mass production consumer level FF sensors won’t be available for another few years.
I’d take in-bofy IS, and would also love a GPS (the only reason I hesitated between the NEX-5 and A55).
After handling an a55 over the weekend, Im not so hot on the mirrorless bodies. I mean, the a55 is small enough for me to envision as a stealthy street photography camera while not getting rid of the controls I have on my a850. The problem I have is that Im not going to buy any e-mount lens, so that means I have to use an adapter, which brings me back to the size of an a55. For me at least, even if the nex7 had the same bang as an a77, I would still buy the a77 over the nex7. Maybe when I go see this mythical nex7 for real, I might change my mind.
Cheers, Josh
Those Tecnofotografia renderings are really awful and they should feel awful.
I’m sorry you feel that way. That was an old version that I made about more than half a year ago.
Maybe you might find this better:
http://timberwolf.zenfolio.com/p1037343730/h2b24b4f0#h2b24b4f0
Cheers
QX
Thanks QX! I hope you will keep continuing to make those nice renderings 🙂
What do you base these renderings on? Your imagination or is there something to lead you to believe they are accurate?
Obviously his imagination and just for fun. Sony would never release a camera like that.
One rendering with swivel screen please 😉
Hello Andrea..
Once again this is my design and rendering 😉
You can find it on my gallery and website.
QX
I’d be keen on some in body IS.
But what the world really needs is a mirrorless compact with a proper rangefinder. I’d imagine Sony would be able to license the rangefinder design from the Minolta CLE or Konica Hexar if they asked. It would make for an awesome street shooter.
We’ve had SR4 rumors stating that the NEX-7 was supposed to have been here two months ago
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-nex-7-camera-in-september-and-new-3xx-alphas-in-june/
And now it’s March?
Is this anything like the SR4 rumor that the A77 would be here in January:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-sony-a77-to-be-announced-in-january-2011/
which came after the SR4 that it would come “mid 2011”
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-sony-a77-coming-mid-2011-and-with-a-completely-new-24-megapixel-sensor-2/
Hi Elliot!
Good questions and I give you good answers (I do hope).
1) The original NEX-7 rumor I received included the NEX-3/5 specs and release date. The NEX-3/5 data were correct (as you saw) but the NEX-7 not. I was told Sony changed their mind because they wanted to be sure to make the right thing
2) Exactly the same thing happened with the A77. They preferred to see if the A33/A55 really would be accepted form the market. The A77 itself is finished since a few months now!
The problem with knowing things very early is that Sony can change roadmap or some specs at any time. Of course you could say that I am inventing all what I am saying. But please be rational. I have been the only one to give you the correct NEX specs months before the release and the only one talking about the pellix camera one year before their announcement! The info about the NEX-7 and A77 are from the same sources.
Bye!
“They preferred to see if the A33/A55 really would be accepted form the market. The A77 itself is finished since a few months now!” – yes, that’s a valid point, but still though, IMO if ever – early November was the best point to introduce the A77. First of all they knew that A55 got numerous very good reviews, probably best Sony ever had in this class of cameras, since end of summer, as well as they knew that Sony community is in general very disappointed from the lack of A700-class camera. It’s period before Xmas so they could catch lots of sales from it quite easily.
IMO the reason why it’s not on market yet is because they decided to introduce some more major changes to address concerns of public, maybe it’s EVF, or maybe it’s constant presence o mirror in front of sensor… either way I doubt that they just wait there sitting.
Yeah, I concur. I suspect that if the A77 were finished, it would be announced as Sony/Everyone announces before they have produced enough to release them. If that date is 4+ months away, they are certainly still doing final revisions right now.
Perhaps what the admin meant to say is that the final spec is completed but not the final product.
I really really want sensor stabilization, don’t get me wrong, but why would Sony start putting it in NEX bodies? 2 of the 3 current lenses have lens stabilization, it would be redundant to now start including sensor stabilization in the bodies now. From a marketing POV, I really doubt the NEX-7, or any future NEX, will have in body IS.
i only have two things i would like to see in a future NEX:
– in body stabilization, as i mostly use non stabilized lenses.
– better assisted manual focus, as i use quite a few manual lenses and the manual focus zoom is not the most awesome help.. you allways end up in the wrong area to check and its quite slow. dont even think of manually focussing on a moving target.. i really hope the do implement some kind of hybrid focus, so the green rectangle highlights the areas that are currently in focus while manually focussing without zoom, then if you hit the zoom button it should zoom into the area of the green rectangle to let you refine the focus, this would be a dream come true and i`d never use autofocus again 🙂
an otherwise very happy NEX5 user.. btw. my nex feel quite weathersealed allready 🙂 atleast it took some heavy rainshowers on iceland as well as several hits without any problems
touch screen too for quick focus points!
Why no talk about inbuilt flash? Would be a major improvement imo.
I only have one thing i would like to see in a future NEX:
Pancake lenses. Lots of them.
and GPS please 🙂
Should have a built in flash and and a traditional hot shoe, unlike NEX-3/5.
This camera will be so expensive that it will be cheaper to buy a dslr.
Who said GF1 is cheaper than a lot of entry-level DSLRs? 🙂
Andrea, could you update the picture in the post to the new rendering? It looked unattractive :\ ^^
The new NEX will not have inbody IS!! Please, stop spreading crazy rumours and getting peoples hopes up. It’s clear they’ve reserved inbody IS for the Alpha market.
I’ll tell you what, if the new NEX comes out next year with inbody IS, I will >>>EAT<<< my NEX-5 with a knife and fork!!!!
i agree…
but i do wanna watch that youtube video where a geek eats a camera… that’ll make it to the front page fosho.
seconded, as long as it’s not too expensive
I think it is a huge mistake to think that the NEX line competes with the AXX cameras, despite overlaps in technology, their forms mean they sit in quite different segments and I suggest that there are a significant number of NEX owners that will never buy an SLR shaped camera and vice versa. Also, there is a very large group of people that will by both but as different cameras that complement, rather than compete, with each other.
I would suggest the same applies for the dedicated camcorder forms.
Therefore, I think it would be lunacy for Sony to cripple any of these cameras out of fear that they cannibalise each others sales.
(that said, sony does make the odd inexplicable marketing decision)
As part of a marketing strategy though, you want clear marketing segments as much as possible. Otherwise it’s not only hard for customers to choose, but for you to strategize what to develop and to attack, and to market/advertise
I just have only one hope.
The NEX small flash that comes with box can trigger Alpha flashgun wirelessly as the other Alpha DSLR/T do.
And also provide an update for NEX-3/5 to do so also.
I agree. That would be a great addition.
Still no 1080p60? Is this some kind of a conspiracy?
You forgot to include the most important poll option: in-body IS (IBIS)
Most people want to use a small NEX camera with a small prime lens — not a big zoom lens to get IS. That defeats the whole purpose of having such a small camera.
Speaking of which, you also forgot to think about lenses. If you asked me what i most want to see with the next NEX model from Sony, i would say a normal prime lens like a 25/2.8 or a 30/2 (38-45 mm equivalent). Where is the Sony equivalent to the Panasonic 20/1.7 or the Samsung 30/2?
Note e_dawg that your comment has been repeated and discussed above for the in-body IS 🙂
I think we had another poll for the lenses.
I say make a good, bright, high resolution EXTERNAL electric viewfinder as an optional accessory or package it with the kits. Not all of us want or need one, and the body could be much smaller without one. I am quite use to composing shots on the LCD of my LX3 and I think people who think a VF is the ONLY way to compose a shot are pretty narrow minded. It has its benefits, yes, but many people can get by just fine without the added bulk. I think Sony could please more people this way. Also, if they do make it external, they should give it it’s own connection port so that it doesn’t prevent the usage of an external flash or mic, or both 😉
The omission of IBIS is not a huge deal breaker for me since OIS is better for shooting video anyways. If I had to pick one, well, you know what it would be. Still, it would be very nice to have the option of using either. I think IS + fast prime + excellent sensor would make the NEX 7 the standard in low light photography compared to other cameras in the same price range, even your Canon Rebels and Nikon DXXXs.
I don’t expect a lot of people to agree with me, but a weather RESISTANT body would be a VERY nice addition to me. Many of us want a small camera like this because we want to use it on the go. On a week long backpacking trip, or a day-long mtn biking or kayaking excursion, it just isn’t practical to lug around a 5D MKII with a couple lenses. I want a camera I can take anywhere and do anything with, without fear of it getting damaged by dust or water. Currently, my LX3 has taken up this role in my shooting arsenal, but you should see how much dirt and moisture gets all over it by the end of the day. The buttons aren’t as springy and I can hear and feel the grit under the dials. It doesn’t have much longer to live and it makes me sad.
Anyways, just my two cents. Have a good day of shooting!
Oh yeah, and more lenses please! 🙂
Yes, a built-in viewfinder is redundant and wastes space.
And do Sonys have an intervalometer function for time-lapse? That should be near the top of this list; it’s FREE to implement! Mirrorless cameras are perfect for time-lapse because there’s no mirror mechanism slapping up and down hundreds of times.
No camera sold today should come without an interval timer.
Goody goody! I’m thinking of buying Nex-5 but searched this rumored Nex-7. I’m waiting,,,
I sure do hope they keep the slo mo that was rumored!!
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