While Leica will attempt to spill out some money with a 2450 Euro APS-C camera with fixed slow zoom Sony is ready to launch their second Full Frame RX model! It will be announced in late August and be a “variation” of the current [shoplink 100009 ebay]RX1 (here on eBay)[/shoplink].
We don’t know the specs yet but the camera is coming for sure! Also a new RX100 MKII is coming (with Wifi and swifel LCD). The MKII will be announced by end of June already!
So what are you going to buy…the Leica or for the same price the Full Frame RX2? 🙂
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I really hope for a built in EVF.
+1 Integrated EVF is a must to me. About the lens: keep it as it is, or change it to a 50mm f1.8 and I would be even happier.
Great news!
If it comes with an EVF and a Zeiss lens as the RX1, many a Leica fanboy is going to be in a fix.
Mo
Variation is potentially just another lens? Going the way of what Sigma did with the DP series? If so, that would be nice. There is no point so far to build a camera with the same lens and buit in EVF at shit point because it would be seen as a ‘replacement’ model. Also, it would cost considerably higher and would out-budget a lot of people who bought the RX1 but neither the EVF or OVF.
I totally disagree. The lack of an integrated viewfinder on the RX1 is the only thing that keeps me from purchasing the camera. Call it an RX1-V, keep it the same and add an EVF – I would purchase for $3249 (same price as RX1+EVF).
But you don’t represent a big market. Sony would rather milk the 50mm market like Sigma does with the DP. It is bigger and more meaningful to the system than a new 35mm lens RXx.
Leica FTW!!
+1
I hope Leica will come true with a Paul Smith edition too. Distinct and luxurious. 😀
I can’t wait for that Jony Ive Edition.
Swiss railways probably already own that design! Lol!
It’s most probably an enhanced body with the same magnificent lens. What comes to mind immediately is fast on-sensor PDAF and maybe also a new stabilization mechanism. Sony must be eager to introduce those new features and may select the slow-selling RX1 as its experimental platform before extending them to the A mount.
Doesn’t make sense. There is not enough of a market for the same capabilities camera plus EVF/OVF built in. It will be VERY rare someone, having owned the RX1 for less than a year, will sell their RX1, at a loss, and pay more for the RX1EVF body just to have it built it. Many people bought the RX1 without the EVF/OVF because thats all they could afford. A built in EVF/OVF on a new RX1 would cost, invariably, more already.
It doesn’t make sense marketing wise.
However, those who wanted a longer focal length, like 50mm or 85mm, would be attracted to a new-lens RX1/RX2
Someone, like me, would be interested in having both if the lens on the RX2 (likely) is as excellent as the 35mm Sonnar.
For the price of two Leica lenses you get two Sony lens+bodies with a better sensor and a better all around performance and AF.
Also, the non-EVF/OVF RXs allow you to not spend $300 more (comepared to say built-in EVF/OVF) every time you buy a new body.
So, new lens RX it is.
> Also, the non-EVF/OVF RXs allow you to not spend $300 more (comepared to say built-in EVF/OVF) every time you buy a new body.
Tell me more about benefits of having interchangeable parts in camera system. Like, you know, lens for example.
You’re missing the boat on the integrated EVF conversation. While you may be correct that there are not many who would upgrade to an RX2 with an integrated EVF, the reality is that there are many who have not purchased an RX1 because of the lack of integrated viewfinder. For me, the only reason I haven’t purchased is that there is no integrated viewfinder. I’ve shot with an add on EVF before and I hate the experience. I’ll wait until someone (hopefully Sony) add a viewfinder to a compact FF Camera.
As for spending an extra $300 when we upgrade? Personally, if I’m going to spend $2800 on a camera, I’m not going to worry about the extra $300-450 for the EVF that I would have to buy to make the camera worthwhile.
Q) How do you become with cool tech geeks?
A) Hate Leica!
it’s not about coolness, it’s about common sense 🙂
So a rumoured overpriced Sony is superior to a yet to be seen Leica? Interesting how opinions can be formed and seemingly set in stone before a single image is viewed.
For what its worth the 2017 Panasonic GX12 is far superior to the Sony NEX-14 as the 3-D holographic viewfinder exhibits far less artefacts.
Hmm, another bitter Leica owner I guess?
That new Sony RX will be full frame. The Leica Mini is APS-C. You do understand the difference? Or do you only understand red dots? And you might want to check the ratings the RX1’s sensor and lens have been getting compared even to Leica’s top models (hint: as good or better). Yes, you bet a new RX will be superior to the ridiculous Leica Mini.
Yes, I agree. he is a bitter leica fanboy.
Soundimageplus is the guys who did put crap on Nikon v1 a year ago during “rumors” than recently purchased one and called it the best mirrorless system on the title of one of his posts.
c) Get a “Nano M” in lieu of the original Panasonic?!
d) Buy a limited edition Paul Smith or a Hermes variety, instead of painting your own camera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qik-N21nYN8)? 😀
Andy, you seem bitter. Are you a Leica owner? Are you upset that Leica is no longer respected as it once was? That red dot is something to laugh at nowadays, not respect. Especially Leica’s non RF cameras — total jokes. Only fools with more money than brains buy them.
Leica are squandering the m240 sensor and lens range advantage. And the Mini-M is ridiculous. The Rx1 already took a big chunk of Leica’s business and the future looks even brighter for Sony.
I love how many camera experts come on here and talk about how much marketshare Leica has lost to Sony, etc. None of you are in the business or have any clue as to what Leica sells or doesn’t sell. The RX1 does not compete with any of Leicas cameras. Stop making guesses and trying to pass them off as fact.
that is true – comment regarding RX1 competing with Leica
THIS. Other things no one here really understands include: optics, electronics, engineering, economics, photography, statistics, etc. Most of the commentators on these rumour websites would be better served by quitting photography and spending their time on TMZ instead.
I have a sense that they will not put EVF. Just guessing. Since they are selling EVF separately, They might keep going with keeping its size small. Although many people(include me) want it to be within the camera. Hope they do.
They sold an external EVF with the NEX-5N. Did we get a NEX-6 or not? 🙂
And how many iterations of the NEX 5 did we have before NEX 6?
No, the new RX1 will be exactly the same camera but with a 24 or 28 mm lens.
None!
Ther was 5N and then 6 (nthen other 5 somethings).
This is correct!. And the 7 already had the EVF when the 5n was current.
Bull.
It was 5N then 5R then 6
Both cameras too expensive, but Leica´s camera is ridiculously expensive. I´d better wait for Fuji XPro-2 or Samsung NX-R…
An RX1 as-is except with a zoom lens would be a no-brainer — easy for Sony to make and adds utility for potential customers. Now that Sony and Olympus are buddies, Olympus could design the lens for them… although I don’t know if ultraluxury buyers would trust a lens that didn’t have a Germanic name on it, now matter how good it might be…
I promise that most don’t want a 24-70 zoom bolted to the front of their RX1.
Of course not. Way better an 14-40!!!
Please get the price of an RX1 to drop. :)…
C’mon guys? By now, you know how this goes. Announced in August, released next March, and when March rolls around the release date gets pushed back another month, and when it finally does come out of the warehouses, B&H, Adorama, Amazon, etc., won’t have it in stock for another month or two after that. Having just bought the RX1 this month, it would take more than an EVF to get me to sell it at a loss and buy a new version after less than a year of owning it. I hardly ever use the viewfinder on my NEX-7, and the RX1 is just fine as is. However, Sony might want to review the cost of some of those ridiculously overpriced accessories.
It could be a same camera but with 50mm f1.8 or even f1.4 Zeiss on it. Bright aperture and compact lens is highly possible on 135 format mirror-less camera.
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It is a 16MP cam. Looks like the original leak was correct!
thanks!
Built-in VF will not going to happen to RX line. I know, I’m Sony manager. Seriously, think about it. RX line is basically a high end P&S. If they bundle VF and all the NEX goodies onto it, what separate the two lines? Fix vs interchangeable? You can have an instant fixed-lens NEX by sticking your favorite lens and simply leave it there!
I am hoping for one of these 2 options:
A) A fixed 24mm f1.4 or f2.8 (given how great the high ISO is on this camera)
B) A zoom lens 18-35 f3.5/5.6
I have been researching this camera extensively and the only reason I am not buying is because the fixed 35mm lens is not optimal for my kind of landscape / architecture shooting.
On a side note: if the Rx100 mkii has a hotshoe I’m in.
Let me guess: 24mm 30+ mpix landscape-oriented camera.