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What’s coming from Sony-Zeiss in 2016 (A9, A99 successor, A7000, A5200….)

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So what can we hope to get in 2016 by Sony?

Here is the possible list of cameras:
A6000 successor (95% chance to get this for real)
High End Sony A9 camera (75% chance to get this for real)
A99 successor (75% chance to get this for real)
A5100 successor (60% chance to get this for real)
RX100IV successor (60% chance to get this for real)

Here is the possible list of lenses:
Wide angle Zeiss Batis (99% chance to get this for real)
FE telephoto zoom lens (95% chance to get this for real)
Loxia tele lens (80% chance to get this for real)
FE 24-70mm f/2.8 (80% chance to get this for real)
FE 85mm f/1.4 (80% chance to get this for real)
FE 50mm f/1.4 (60% chance to get this for real)

Of course there will be also some stuff we have no clue about yet. Let’s hope Sony will surprise us all!

And now the poll:

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    1. This. Bought a Nikon 1 J5 specifically for super telephoto use (with the FT1 adapter), but wow is it gimped. Video is pretty bad, too.

        1. I have the j5 and the 70-300 Nikon 1 lens…860mm ff equivelent
          They are easy to use and good telephoto reach, excellent lens but the camera performs like a typical m4/3.
          Much better than a small sensor point and shoot, but not nearly as good as an apsc or ff.
          The j5 does not have an ovf, and unlike the v series the optional add on ovf cannot be used.
          The v series has more versatility and the add on viewfinder usually comes bundled with it.
          Nice as a toss around carry everywhere camera but not for more serious photography.
          Unfortunately Sony has little to offer wildlife photographers in lenses that will we ork on Sony cameras.
          Cannon just patented a 200-600 f4.8-5.6 lens.
          Sigma makes 2 different 150-600s in Nikon or Canon monts..but be aware that niether of them will currenly autofocus at 600mm on the a7rii with adapter, only autofocuses at shorter focal lengths.
          The only option that will work on a7rii is the Tamron 150-600 in A mount but autofocus is a little iffy on a7rii with laea3, but it works.
          There is no teleadapter available that works with this lens on Sony except the cheapest version of Kenko 1.4 x ..this adapter is crap, and you are better off cropping than using it.

          Sony really needs to do something about thier complete neglect for anyone that wants to shoot wildlife or sports.

          They will never ever be able yo compete with professional systems like Canon or Nikon until they serve the entire camera market, not just the best selling category….and they dont seem to get iy…tons of average focal length lenses because they are popular, and nothing for anyone else.

          I am a Sony user and wildlife photographer…and using Sony equipment is a never ending struggle because nothing is fully compatable..and Sony does not make long lenses.

          1. So the m4/3 image quality is lacking. No sense going for a used v body then? I have found out what you have said through my research as well unfortunately. I would be happy with the a7000 having 30mp and a new 100-300 G lens to go with it that is as good as they say the 70-200 is.

          2. I have been using my Tamron 150-600 A mount lens on both the a77ii and the a7rii with lae3.
            I like the fast burst rate and fast AF on the a77rii…but like the higher res of the A7rii.
            The burst rate is only 6fps and the AF ..while pretty good..is not quite as fast as the a77ii.
            If the a7000 is higher re..maybe 36 or 42mp, better AF, and higher burst rate I would like to try it with the Tamron 150-600.
            If you use your camera for birding you will find the 300mm extremely limiting.
            The 600mm will be 900mm equivelent and much more satisfying.
            You can suppotlrt it with a Cotton carrier stabilization system, or use my method of esting a monopod in iether a toolbelt holster or flag carrier.
            These privide near tripod like results and make walking with the camera much easier.
            If you want more details ask me and I will explain how to do it.

          3. You’re not seeing it are you, the kids, the next generation (who Sony are appealing to), they’re not interested in long lenses and wildlife photography. You should just go buy a Canon, better lens choice, same resolution, and perfect for those with little interest in video.

        2. The most apparent issues are that this is more like an entry level DSLR without a mirror than a mirrorless camera. No exposure preview and no metering for anything without an electronic connection (like manual Nikon lenses). Beyond that, the menu features are reduced to even less than you’d see on something like a D3300. You only get one custom/Fn button, and only two exposure controls: the top and back dials, which are each only active half of the time depending on what mode you’re in. The “quick” menu to get to the rest of the important stuff fast is also terribly laid out.

          Then there’s the nitpicking, like no exposure bracketing, self timer defaulting back to single shot after each photo, no true 100% zooming for MFing, heavy NR on review images making it hard to check focus, slight shutter lag with an unreliable shutter sound effect (sounds like more shots are being taken than actually are), no Auto ISO 1600 (just 800, 3200, and 6400), and terrible video (noticeable compression). Lots of things that should be a no-brainer for a top camera company like Nikon.

          That said, the J5 with the FT1 focuses my Sigma 70-200mm 2.8 II nearly as fast as my D750, with about 75% as much accuracy. Stopped down to F/5.6, the images are super sharp. Though the lack of viewfinder pertty much requires an external viewfinder loupe to use any kind of long lens effectively. I had one lying around, so I bought some extra parts to get it to the right height to clear the FT1’s tripod foot (which gets in the way of my Tamron 24-70mm VC -____- ). Unless you have patience, a sturdy left arm, or a tripod/monopod, you’ll need a lens with image stabilization to see what’s going on in the frame.

          I wouldn’t suggest a J5 as a companion to a DSLR. It’s just too limited and different. As a third, specialty camera, where it can be set up for a single purpose, it works well enough. I tend to leave mine in manual mode with Auto ISO 800. Most adapted lenses will be terribly soft wide open, so having control over the aperture is critical, and shutter speed will be just as much dependent on your subject as it is the lens’ support.

  1. >What lens do you hope to get in 2016?

    Does “A-Mount lenses” sound so rediculous now you don’t even include it in the poll?

    1. Yes
      Note…the rumored new camera is an a99 replacement….but it is still not certain if it will be A mount or E mount.

        1. I posted you a very long list of correct predictions …to which you did not even see fit to respond..
          Your comments are exclusively critisizm and insult regardless of what my comment is you respond to…therefore they are meaningless and mindless.

          1. So I gave you a long long list of things I pushed for and predicted, all long long long before everyone else thoght they could or would happen…and after all the its impossible and cant happen…they did.
            That you define as ” credit taking , and not correct predictions”

            Do you actually read your own nonsense

            As I have said before…your critisizms and insults are meaningless and mindless because they are based not on anything I say but on your own desire to insult and critisize.

            Meaningless and Mindless…I soppose your favorite candy must be M&Ms

  2. A7m3. It didn’t get the new firmware updates that came with the A7rii/A7sii and it’s just over a year old. Thought this might be a shoe-in.

  3. Yeah, RX100iv is already 6 month old crap. We definitely need an upgrade! I usually get bored with my $1k point and shoots after 3-4 months. Come on, Sony, hurry up!

  4. A7r3 with dual memory slots, a99ii would be killer if there are more lenses (super telephotos) otherwise the a9 would be the way to go, if and only if, it dual slots. You can use Sony lenses and big canon telephotos, and not it appears Nikon lenses as well. I would bet a lot of us would like to see a 600f4, 400f2.8, 200-400 maybe even with built in tele like canon without the excessive (compared to canon and Nikon) price tag of the 500f4.

    1. Just got a good deal on a. Sigma 800mm f5.6 in Nikon mount.
      It does not have oss so I am desperately hoping it will focus on the A7Rii with the new adapters that are supposed to be coming out.

    1. What is so magical about f/2.8? It’s one measly stop faster than f/4. If you really need an ultra fast shutter speed or sick bokeh, you should be asking for some f/1 or faster lenses. I do agree on a zoom reaching 300mm, though.

      In any case, I think Sony is losing their way by making huge and heavy lenses now. I dropped Nikon on the hope of a small, light, awesome system. It started out that way, but now they seem to want to battle CaNikon again, and it’s a battle they’ll lose again.

      1. I see your point. Now with IBIS in the A7series, hopefully Sony can make smaller lenses without OSS.
        The benefits of a 24-70/2.8 is that you don’t need to change your lens to do portraits. At 70/2.8 you should get plesant enough bokeh. Not so much with f4, though.

      2. Do some concert photography with a f/4 and you know immediately what 2.8 is good for. And – lenses are always an option only. Nobody forces you to use a heavy 70-200mm or Batis or the 90mm. Stay with the 55mm and the 16-35 and everything will be fine.

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  5. Why 75% on the A9?

    With A7series MkII already on top of the mirroless ladder, does it make sense to release an even higher end body so soon? That would confuse buyers, I think, especially those who already splashed out on a couple of A7 series MkII.

    If we look back on Sony’s DSLR problems, I think much of it was down to relasing a confusing number of models.

    It would be a lot smarter to leave the A7 series MkII in the market for a year and focus on providing fast primes and zooms. That would satisfy customers, rather than confuse them.

    1. You know it’s just a guess, right?

      Despite that, I’d argue it would make a lot of sense to release an A9 camera. There’s no doubt the A7 mkII’s are great, but they still haven’t cracked the ergonomic problems that are mine, and many others, main criticism. I want a bigger camera, with better grip, better controls (feel), dual slots. Doing this would definitely interest more DSLR shooters. As for confusing buyers, that’s an old, lazy trope. Most people are just like you and me, and are perfectly capable of doing their own research. I’m also intrigued as to why you think an A9 would especially confuse those who already bought a couple of A7 mkII’s? That’s a curiously specific and odd statement. Do you mean confuse, or annoy?

      As for looking back on Sony’s DSLR problems, I think it had very little to do with the number of models they released, and more to do with how well established their rivals were, in an already shifting market.

      1. You got it. It would confuse and annoy those who recently spent big to get the best mirrorless camera.

        I’m a bit of a Geek but I am totally confused by the various SLR and SLT models that Sony released previously. It seemed random and confusing, sometimes fixing quirks of the previous model, sometimes adding features that few could have asked for.

        Sometimes IQ was worse in the new model than the previous. So, yeah, it was confusing.

        But Sony has learned from it and there is a lot of clarity in their current line-up. A very good reason not to mix it up again, just because they can.

  6. My wish list of products/features for 2016:
    1) Firmware update for A7rII to allow Eye-AF with adapted lenses;
    2) Firmware update for A7rII to allow customization of UP (Disp) button;
    3) FE 70-200/2.8 (price comparable to CN);
    4) FE 24-70/2.8 (unless #1 is implemented);
    5) A9 – dual card slots, better AF, speed over resolution, slightly taller taller and deeper body, perhaps with an integrated vertical grip.

      1. The menus on A7x cameras are quite messed up, but you can put almost everything you would normally change on Fn menu. If you only shoot stills, the only things I access through menus, which cannot be assigned elsewhere, is Format, Time set (to sync multiple cameras) and Idle time. When I am shooting video or mix of stills/video, the lack of fast change from FF to Super35 is also quite annoying.
        Perhaps custom menu is not needed, but rather ability to add more functions to Fn or custom buttons would suffice. I still have couple slots free on Fn menu, but perhaps another row of slots would help someone.

        1. Yeah but only shooting things, you still have to go menu diving just to Format a card or change the time zone you are in and other non-shooting things that I frequently use. I’d be happy with a My Menu page to add that kind of stuff.

          1. I am not overly concerned with the settings which are not used in a rush, like format or time. There are many other things I would rather have improved than that.
            As I rarely shoot video, I am not aware of what would the typical settings be there, which are not accessible in Fn or custom buttons. Perhaps it is more severe there than it is for stills, where I never have to go into menus while actually shooting.

  7. It took two years for the BSI sensor of the RX100II to make it into a fullframe camera. So if that continues it will be about a year until we get a fullframe camera with a stacked sensor! Just imagine, 16 fps pictures, 1000 fps video, close to no rolling shutter, 1/32’000 electronic shutter speed.
    That would be quite cool 🙂

    1. It could come sooner than that, not necessarily 2 years. They are different technologies with different challenges, one has manufacturing efficiency issues when scaling to full frame size, the other might have thermal issues when scaling to higher wattage.
      I think Sony will be able to overcome the potential issues with stacked sensors more easily so it might be even less time this time around.

      1. Yeah, just wanted to stay as realistic as I possibly can…
        I wonder if the stacked sensor is compatible with IBIS. Might be more challenging with a heavier sensor…

        1. Sony can do anything. They have the resources for all top notch tech.
          But cant tech a higher capacity battery for their cameras…came on Sony

          1. Added weight from a beefed up stacked sensor could potentially be a challenge though. Sony might not be able to do this without increasing the strength of the IBIS and thereby increasing the size of the camera.

            An alternative solution would be to remove IBIS entirely and keep the body small.

          2. NO..!!!!
            If you hate IBIS so much go buy a Nikon or Canon.
            IBIS is one of the most important reasons we choose Sony…!!!!

          3. Phfahaha, I’m just speculating. Either way, you can just hope for a larger camera body with a stronger IBIS, then they would have no problem fitting a heavier Stacked sensor.

          4. There’s very little chance Sony will remove IBIS in future A7 or above models. That would be crazy.

          5. Maybe you’re right. But it depends on their priorities. If stacked RAM on-sensor can give them an advantage in the sports photography world and (if) they have to choose between them, they might just make a new line of camera without IBIS, but it will have crazy frame rates due to the new Stacked RAM technology they have.
            It’s just speculation anyway.

    2. Guess, Sony has to solve a weight issue first then… and additional find a solution to cool down the sensor even more. Another nice thing would be the turn off/on antialiasing filter. But I guess, that’s the reason why the Rx1m2 doesn’t have IBIS.

      1. “But I guess, that’s the reason why the Rx1m2 doesn’t have IBIS.”
        No that’s not it.
        RX1Rii needs to be light and low weight, IBIS works against this by adding ~150 grams to the body.
        RX1Rii also has a special precision lens that sits really close to the sensor, almost touching it, IBIS also works against this.

  8. I don’t need another body. I want lenses, but none of the above : I want a 135mm F2.8, with AF, compact and light. I also want the Batis 25mm to just be available.

    1. Got one. Excellent Minolta 2,8/135, it’s that light that you even don’t feel it is put on A900 body. As any other non-zoom lens. That’s why I won’t buy A7 camera that twist your hand down with anything but 2,8/35…

        1. Oh, I see. You didn’t really have a point and was just having a dig at the admin who provides this forum for free.

    1. It would be good with some competion. But on the other hand, these third parties don’t have a great history of playing well with Sony. Simron lenses that work great on Canikon don’t always work great on Sony.

      But if Sigma could produce some successful FE Art lenses, that could help Sony focus a bit.

  9. OK since we are guessing, here’s my guesses 🙂
    A6000 successor (90%)
    High End Sony A9 camera (25%)
    A99 successor (25%)
    A5100 successor (90%)
    RX100IV successor (75%)
    a7000 (50%)
    a7 Mk III (50%)

  10. Sony previous lenses strategy
    “Must protect the A mount lenses..”
    – No 35 50 85mm 1.4
    – No Fast 2.8 lenses
    – No big bulky lenses

    Sony Current Lenses Strategy
    “Go to hell A mount…”
    -351.4 ( Released..fast, big bulky)
    -50 85 1.4 coming soonn
    -Fast 2.8 Zoom lenses coming soon

    1. I think their strategy isn’t all that complicated. Make the lenses the e-mounts users are desperate for, and sell them for an exorbitant price. Rinse and repeat.

      When Sony’s f/2.8 zoom lenses arrive they’ll probably cost between $500 to $1000.00 more than their Canon, Nikon or a-mount equivalents.

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  12. What camera do you hope to get in 2016? (Select one)
    > a7 mark III (: i personally don’t needed, but i want it 🙂

    What lens do you hope to get in 2016? (Select one)
    > FE 30-120/4, FE 100-300/4(-5.6)

  13. Graphene Battery from Sony for A9 and A99II – fast charging 60 seconds last for 1 weeks. this gonna hurts all rivals at once. Sony Make.Believe

    1. Their announced new battery tech will improve only 40% but might be even cheaper. Unless samsung finally came up with their mythical graphene battery, it is highly unlikely.

    1. I think they should go for it. I’m pretty sure they’d be able to sell them for a thousand dollars more than their A7 equivalents.

  14. I could be all for an A7000 if it had a touchscreen and 5 axis. It would have to have a really nice build soooo…don’t see that happening.

        1. No, I would pay Nex7 release price for an A7000. All I’m saying is Sony is not capable to put a f****** touchscreen in their prosumer cameras.

    1. I’d settle for a wider STF lens, though this may be difficult to produce with the exceptionally circular bokeh of the 135.

  15. FE 24-105 f4. The rest is bonus.

    Waiting until the top end A9 arrives with dual card slots and joystick. An APS-C equivalent above the A6000 would hurt either.

  16. I hope we get a 1DX/D4S competitor along with the A99 succesor. Olympics is this year and it would be a great opportunity to tackle it with a new pair of cameras. As for lenses… a 24-120 F4 G SSM or 24-105 F4 G SSM or 24-70 F4 G SSM for A-mount would be a great addition as long as they offer it for less the asking price of the SAL2470Z. And a 12-24 F4 or 16-35 F4 G SSM would be great too. As for telephoto, hope we get a 70-200 F4 G SSM or 120-300 F4 G SSM (this one only if Sony decides to release a 24-120 F4 instead of 24-105 F4 or 24-70 F4).

    As long as we get cheaper lenses than what we currently see on Sony A-mount F2.8 lenses, everything would be alright. Not everyone is able to buy a 3000USD 70-200 F2.8 G SSM II but most people are able to buy a 70-200 F4 G SSM. Although the Minolta AF 70-210 F4 is famous for it’s size, F4 constant aperture and quality/price ratio, A-mount is in serious need for accesible high quality zoom lenses. Nikon has a nice set of F4 zoom lenses, Canon has it too. Sony should develop a F4 zoom lens set too. (Of course, I’m not taking into account E-mount lenses since I’m not interested on those)

    1. “I hope we get a 1DX/D4S competitor… Olympics is this year…”

      You would also need a 300/2.8, a 400/2.8 and a 600/4 if you want to compete with Canon/Nikon in the Sports world. I don’t think that can happen. Sony is much better off focusing on video (as they have been) for the Sports market as it is a core strength and they are already well known in that regime.

      1. Sony sells a 300 f/2.8, and 500 f/4 which is more than enough for Sports. The upcoming A99II will likely be between 36 to 42 mega pixels allowing users plenty of room to crop. This makes their lack of 400mm, and 600mm focal lengths a non-issue.

          1. They don’t really have much of a choice. The D4S is only 16.2 mp, and the 1DX is only 18.1mp, leaving you hardly any room to crop. A 36 or 42mp 10 to 12 fps A99II would simply outclass both.

          2. I think 16 or 18 or the forthcoming 20MP is plenty for what they do. I doubt that there are many sports photographers that actually want 42mp and I doubt that they want to get new lenses again so soon after just having changed to the Canon Mk II lenses and the Nikon E lenses. I just don’t think Sony should waste a lot of resources trying to play the game in that segment of photojournalism. I personally can’t see enough numbers switching from Canon or Nikon in that arena to justify the costs of entering the still photo sports market, especially when they are already at war with Canon on the video side – best to strengthen their position there IMHO. It’s an interesting debate though.

          3. at war with canon?! HAHAHA. have you SEEN the Canon EOS XC10?!! at NAB i got to see the pre-production model, its a joke. canon have been pushing people away from their dslr’s to their c100, c300 camcorders. basically canon has all but abandoned dslr video. and when was the last time they made a 5D model that wasn’t worthless for video production? (don’t say 5DS. that is poop for video.) i switched from my canon 6D to sony BECAUSE canon was beginning to suck it at video in dslr’s. canon is losing that battle hardcore right now until they step up to the plate.

          4. It makes total sense for Sony going this route. They are the only SLR company with nothing to lose.

            Pushing out a 36 to 42mp 12fps camera at A99 prices would really shake things up. SLT (fixed mirror, EVF, built in Wifi, 4K) by design is the best technology for high speed shooting. The 12fps A77II is currently the fastest shooting APS-C SLR like camera on the market, and costs 1/2 the price of its nearest competitor (7D MKII).

            It would be potentially devastating for Canon, and Nikon if Sony upstages them by launching a 36mp – 12fps full frame that is more advanced than their flagships for A99 prices ($1999.99).

          5. “It would be potentially devastating for Canon, and Nikon if Sony upstages them by launching a 36mp – 12fps full frame that is more advanced than their flagships for A99 prices ($1999.99)”

            Agreed that something like that would definitely shake things up but I just can’t see it happening, certainly not at that price point, probably not even at double that price point.

          6. Unless you are an actual photojournalist, who publishes photos (the target market). Most newspapers/magazines can run double truck at 4 megapixels (I know because I used to have it happen with my D2h files). If you are using a 42 mpix camera, you have to downsize for upload from the field, and the D4/D5 will eat your lunch, because those photographers are getting paid while you are downsizing for transmission.

          7. you can always lower the resolution in cam before you shoot. Just a matter if Sony will provide those options. The Rx 10 provide a large number of pixel option. I see no reason they would do it for the there pro gear. heck the Rx10 is considered a mini pro.

      2. Sony has a 300/2.8 and 500/4 along with 1.4x and 2.0x TCs. It’s a good start.They got some lenses, they now offer some decent support for professionals and they have the best sensors available to the masses. The only thing missing right now is a great A-mount camera body able to perform flawlessly on duty with those lenses and be able to compete against the 1DX/D4S competitor.

        The ultimate thing they can do is announce a set of telephoto lenses to go with such camera, beggining with the reintroduction of upgraded/improved Minolta 600/4, 300/4 and announce a new 200-400/4. That should be enough development for 3 more years.

      3. Sport photographers are only relevant with a viable venue for purchase & publication, and those are becoming fewer and fewer. AP, have been pulling stills from video feeds since the early 1990’s.

      4. i think that the only e-mount camera that could keep up with the frame rates needed to shoot the olympics is the a5100 / a6000 at this point :-/

  17. I’d like a RX100 mk3+ with 24-120 f/3.4 at the price point of the MK3 (maybe a little above). And give it threads to mount a polariser please.

    The mk4 sensor may be impressive in its speed but I just can’t be bothered. Especially at the ridiculous pricing.

  18. several sr4 a99ii rumors started in 2013 with pending release started in february 2014. nothing new with a99ii rumors

  19. So the a7000 is at 95% probablity for another year. That’s great, maybe it’s a record for the longest-running rumor at near certainty. I’m giving them until spring, then I start looking seriously at the Fuji system.

    1. I doubt you’ll see Sony sell a A7000. They’re trying to move people to the A7 series. I’d make more sense for them to sell a APS-C A7 instead, in order to milk the most cash out of the die-hards.

      1. What’s the difference between an A7000 and an APSC A7? I’m personally hoping the A7000 is basically an APSC A7rII, and the rumors have been along those lines.

        1. The extra $500.00 they can milk out of potential buyers. At least it’d have a steel case that’d be weather-sealed.

      2. ummmm, thats what the aX000 series of cameras exists for, as an entry model to get people into the e-mount system. there would be no difference between an a7 aps-c and an a7000. thats redundant

      3. That would be fine with me. I don’t care what they call it, or what the body is made of, as long as it’s APS-C and upgrades the a6000 in a couple of significant ways. My own wish list starts with a higher resolution EVF.

        1. Agreed. IBIS would be nice too. Then they could market an E-mount (not FE) 16-50mm f/2.8 and not have to build IS into it. This is the only thing preventing me from ditching my Canon 7D and EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8. Yes I have an adapter and have tried my beloved 17-55 on my a6000 but the lens+adapter is bulky, heavy and slow. Everyone is going crazy for FE these days but not all of us want to go full frame. The APS-C E-mount lineup needs to be rounded out!

          1. Sony is most definitely developing a new class leading APS-C sensor. They have the technology to do it, and selling sensors is their big business.
            But I don’t think you should expect IBIS in their APS-C cameras. It might be a feature they are reserving for their high-end Full Frame cameras.
            And an IBIS for APS-C sensor would probably add another 100 grams to the weight of the camera, something that won’t resonate with a small, weightless and affordable design like the A6000.

          2. Actually I wouldn’t mind the extra weight if the size wasn’t significantly impacted. IBIS would be great. Basically I want as much in an APS-C camera as I can get, and I’ll pay for it.

          3. We need image stabilization somewhere – it’s pretty much a requirement in this day and age. With all these Sigma Art lenses and whatnot coming out with no stabilization, why not put it in the body? I wouldn’t mind an extra hundred grams for that. Better than putting it in every single lens which means we have to pay for it over and over again, in both cash and bulk & weight. IBIS could be one of the premium features that differentiate an a7000 type model from the a6000.

    2. I gave the Fuji a hard look. They do have the glass- per se. They are dedicated to the APSC format and that XT10 is a steal. Alas, I can’t get myself to do it as I’m to fond of Olympus which truly covers the small and light end of things.

    1. I have mixed feelings about this lens. I need filter threads in my lenses because I also want to use the lenses for infrared photography.
      And without filter threads on the 10mm and the 12mm, the only option is the 15mm.

  20. I hope for
    1. LAEA5 with screw drive and without translucent mirror.
    2. A vertical grip for A7/s/r and 2nd gen A7/s/r that has a non removable battery featuring a capacity / cm^3 that is comparable to smartphone batteries.

    Imho these are 2 easy wins for Sony.

    1. 1. Yes, would be nice;
      2. Current NP-FW50 actually is comparable, both in capacity and in capacity/volume ratio, to the batteries used in smart phones. It’s capacity is 7.3Wh, while typical smart phone batteries are 5-10Wh. On my list, battery life is probably nowhere the top of the priorities – there are plenty of other features I would love to see more. If you use vertical grip with 2 batteries, you can easily go for 6 hours in a typical wedding/event environment while shooting stills. Yes, longer battery life is always welcome, but this is not critical. It really isn’t. For video any DSLR camera will eat through batteries fast and for serious work you will want a rig with external battery anyway. Only scenario I can imagine this would be an issue is an extended expedition to somewhere without access to power (grid, car, boat etc) to charge.

  21. i’m really wishing a 70-200mm f/2.8 would be on the horizon for the e-mount. i realize that most e-mount cameras are on the small side, but seriously i would gladly take a larger a8 or a9 model with a more robust body to handle it

    1. I am quite often handling A7rII with adapted SAL70200G with or without vertical grip (without grip I usually do have bottom or L plate attached, like http://briansmith.com/sony-a7ii-quick-release-l-bracket/, which gives a grip for my pinky:). Bit worse with SAL70400G2, but also usable, especially with vertical grip.

      I would buy A9 camera, though, if it had faster AF, higher fps, dual cards and slightly larger grip (ideally integrated vertical grip).

  22. Got your Loxia and Batis predictions wrong. It’s the other way around: tele Batis (say 135 2.0) and wider Loxia (something like 16 4.0).

  23. A99mk2 with 4K video and A88 identical without video but with faster frame rate for sports/wild life. I am ready to pre order now, been waiting so long I have saved enough to jump.

  24. Where did these rumors and percentages come from?
    99% we’ll see a wide angle Batis? That’s basically 100% certainty. What’s the source?
    An a9 professional body? I can’t wait to see it… What’s the source? Specs?

  25. Please a mature A9 – solid and robust like a tank, ergonomics for working and not for playing with it (e.g. me personally would like to have joystick back), fully articulated screen, own modifiable menu or at least less dubious one – this points are most improtant for me, the rest are known from readers in this forum are welcome as well!

  26. EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!
    I have confirmed, with 99.99% accuracy, that we will see Sigma ART FE glass in 2016!

      1. This came straight from the CEO of Sigma. And, no, these will not be standard Art lenses; they will be specifically built for Sony FE. They believe Sony will be THE major player in photography within 5 years, as CaNikon are quickly falling behind in technology and quality.

        1. I don’t think this is going to happen. It normally takes 2 years to develop a new design lens from scratch an until the lens is on the shelves. It’s why there is only 1 Zeiss Batis “maybe” ready at the end of 2016 even though Zeiss claims they put their main effort into E-mount Batis now.

          Initially Zeiss only planned 1 additional Batis for 2017, and that’s the one that might arrive at the end of 2016, but due to Batis’ success, there are now 3 Batis lenses in development, the 1 they planned all along, and two new that are announced for 2017.

          That’s the same story for Sigma. If they make new plans today based on Batis sales, their product won’t make it in time for 2016, it would become a 2017 lens, just like those 2 newly planned Batis lenses.

          And I don’t believe Sigma is interested in Sony’s FE mount to begin with.

          1. You are behind the times on where Sigma’s head is with the FE mount. They’ve been signing a different tune than what we’ve heard even 6 months ago. Google recent interviews and comments from Sigma’s #1 guy. Hard to ignore FE’s success, especially when those buying into the mount are perfectly willing to pay premium $$ for high end glass. Sigma swoops in with Zeiss-like IQ at 60% of the cost and boom, everyone wins.

            Personally, I now have all Zeiss and Zony FE primes and both G zooms and really won’t be in the market for anything other than the Batis 135 and standard 2.8 zoom, but if Sigma does something crazy like 1.2 primes (yes, wishful thinking probably) then I’ll be all in.

          2. I’m hoping for the best too. But I think Sigma makes too much money on Canon and Nikon to divert any of their resources away from those two.

            I definitely hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think it will happen. At least not until 2017.

  27. Im expecting A7 III ! It’s a 100% chance of release in 2016. I want A7RII AF and 4K , fast operations, big battery, touchscreen.

      1. Are you sure about that? The A7 and A7ii sensor is really old by now. Sony could use an update of that older design, both for their own cameras and for selling to other camera makers which they make a lot of money on.

        And the A7ii is, sort of, old by FF E-mount standards, it’s the next one in line to be updated. Next summer the A7ii would be 1½ years old, next December it would become 2 years old so 2016 isn’t unreasonable at all.

  28. Seems to me im not the only one who wants APS-C high end E mount camera with the successor of A99II…
    If like some said APS-C is dead, then Sony sales will be the next one to crash

    1. Did you ever consider the possibility that Sony tried to make an A6000 successor but simply failed at the project and need some more time?
      Lots of things in the manufacturing can go wrong when you develop a new sensor, not everything is a malicious intent.

      1. they could cut the A7RII sensor in two parts and make the A7000 sensor 😉 with it in a thicker body to allow more heat dispersal 😀

    2. Check Amazon stats for the past few weeks. A6000 DOMINATES the sales charts for mirror less and bundles. It absolutely destroyed almost everything. It literally held almost every top 10 spot on both lists.

      I doubt APS-C is anywhere near dead for Sony. They’re just riding the wave right now and raking in as much money as possible.

  29. CES is next week and nothing. Again Sony will surprise us with announcements that no rumor site has, they’ve really buttoned up the leaks.

    Aren’t most of these “future” cameras recycled from last year? And come on, the RX100 gets an update every year, duh. I’d like to see a APS-c camera that mirrors the A7rII spec (because lenses are smaller/cheaper), but with profits being pushed by the A7’s, I just don’t see that happening. I’ve been using the A7rII from day one, but for travel I’d like something smaller.

    We have a better chance of the A7mk3 than the mythical A9 or A99 or A7000….

    1. A7mk3 huh. I think the chances of that are 2.7%. I give the A99 60% chance. I give A7000 20 percent. Lastly, I give A9 0% chance. Maybe I’ll eat my words on this. WE SHALL SEE!!!!

      1. A7II was last December, we’ll see the MKIII soon with the BSI, 4k and better PADF, I bet it’s announced by the end of March. A99 isn’t happening, A-mount is dead. APS-c E-mount has stalled because FE is making all the cash, we’ll see new crop bodies eventually, when who knows? Certainly not the rumor sites.

        1. A7 was November so yeah- you do have a point if the 13 month cycle holds true. I just don’t see it happening given the level of performance already packed in and the price point on the A7II. They haven’t even discounted the thing say- twice for 100 bucks AND they just provided a firmware update for the AF.

          If it comes, I want BSI, 28MP and no AA filter. Another 24MP slightly tweeked sensor is a yawn. Besides, AF needs to make a quantum leap and I doubt Sony is there yet.

          Nope, 2016 will patch a few holes (boats still gonna sink) with A mount while a shiiit storm of FE lenses hit the market. Then, WAMMO- late december of this year we’ll see the next train of FE cameras unleashed.

          1. How would you like some on-sensor DRAM to go with that new BSI sensor?
            1000 FPS video recording, 20 FPS stills at 20 Megapixels.

            But seriously, the timing for updating the A7ii into A7iii is about right, and the A7 sensor really, really, could use some upgrade.

          2. The only thing that keeps me from buying the A7 II is its old sensor. Compare it to the Nikon D750: the difference is tremendous.
            Give me a A7III with BSI and I’m all in.

          3. Nah those two are from about the same era. The D750 sensor is just about the same as the A7ii. The only difference is the D750 sucks more at video recording.

          4. You are wrong: Use the dpreview comparator (look at e.g. ISO 6400). The D750 has at least 1 f-stop advantage over the A7 II!
            Dpreview also noted that in the conclusion: “Noisy high ISO images compared to full-frame competitors” and “We also found the a7 II to have 1-2 stops worse ISO performance than an a7S or D750”.

          5. Looks like you’re right then. But I would still give more points to the A7ii, because the IBIS will give it more than 1 f-stop advantage on shutter speed when handheld. Plus the D750 has other issues with the shutter mechanism which I’d rather not deal with, whereas A7ii has a near perfect implementation of electronic first curtain shutter.

          6. BS so then the D750 is on par with the A7S,….dont be stupid. There is not even half a stop between the 750 and the A7ii. Stop lying or learn what you are talking about before spreading so much nonsense.

          7. You are obviously an A7II owner, otherwise you wouldn’t feel strained by my comment.
            By the way: Dpreview and DXO confirmed that the A7II sensor is WAY inferiour to the D750, it’s more than 1 stop!
            Maybe you should learn to accept the facts… poor kid.

          8. You are obviously an A7II owner, otherwise you wouldn’t feel strained by my comment.
            By the way: Dpreview and DXO both confirmed that the A7II sensor is WAY inferiour to the D750, it’s more than 1 stop!
            Maybe you should learn to accept the facts… poor kid.

          9. hahahah way inferior by one stop then you quote DXO which I actually provided their measurements here and if you think those measurements show more than one stop when is not even ONE stop the you are pathetic and quite dumb.
            The internet is there mate…go learn before you make a fool of yourself…but thats too late now 😉
            Oh and yes I have the A7ii but I bought it after researching many cameras as I dont marry brands. I owned Canon, Pentax and Sony now…I buy whatever works best since no company gives me stuff for free so brand loyalty is stupid. Which of course based on your childish behavior you are some Nikon blind fanboy…grow up kiddo 😉
            I am out…I spent my quota of dealing with retards for today, sorry.

          10. You use words like “childish”, “retards”, “grow up”, “pathetic”, “fool” and “dumb” in one single comment to insult me… wow, you seem to have serious issues.
            Judging from the way you write your level of education is not very impressive… Before telling others they should “go and learn”, you should probably look at yourself first.

          11. Not an A7II owner here, but DXO doesn’t say that at all. DPR are easily tricked as are unsuspecting internet users. It’s a bit like Samsung over locking their processors when it detects certain benchmarking apps are running. DPR is a benchmarking sure of sorts, Nikon fudge it so that their cameras look superior under DPR testing conditions, which are fixed and don’t change. DXO well understand the tricks.

            There is a difference, but it is FAR more subtle than DPR would suggest.

          12. Tremendous?! This is such a ridiculous exaggerated statement that is laughable. Are you even thinking about ISO 2956vs 2449….do you even know what that means in real life?
            Some people here just talk so much nonsense I dont know if I should laugh at them or pity them instead…tough call.

          13. It’s all relative… and yes, I know what I am talking about.
            Well you should get a life instead of laugh at or pity someone.

  30. Sony engineers must have the biggest headache reading all the comments in this site.
    But anyway, yes, go ahead and bring in the new A-mount stuff. All the existing A-mount users are waiting with tons of money on their hands. We are ready buyers no matter what comes out.

    1. The real problem for Sony is contained within your post, unfortunately.

      That is while the A mount users could well have ‘a ton of money waiting’, there are too few of them. I think the A99 is a fabulous camera (used them for a couple of years) but there are not enough photographers who share that view.

      To be economic it comes down to the old model, either be very exclusive and charge a premium, or stack ’em high and sell ’em cheap!

      Sadly, the Sony brand does not have the kudos and the A99 does not have unique performance to merit a prestige price (I can hear the howls of protest now if the replacement comes in at $6000-7000). That leaves Sony to ‘stack ’em high’, but they don’t have the market share to support that option. The only way it would work is for the camera to have superb performance that would leave all other models in its wake, sufficient to persuade large swathes of owners to swap brands.

      This leaves Sony in an impossible position.

      Even if they produce a spectacular camera, price it reasonably, and make money on it, if there isn’t a large uptake by ‘non-Sony’ photographers, there will be plenty of comments and articles declaring it a failure.

      I deperately hope they astonish the market and pull the proverbial rabbit from the hat, but I’m at a loss to see how they can do it. The new year is sure to be interesting, though!

      1. Sony is now the undisputed champion in mirrorless. Pros are using them. If Sony releases a cutting edgde SLR type camera, they’ll have the attention of those already using FF Sonys and orher users who weren’t persuaded to jump to mirrorless. There are also quite a few users with a850, a900 or A99 who need/want an upgrade.

        High end cameras are never about stacking ’em high. That’s where the A68 comes in.

        1. I’m not sure that’s necessarily a reasonable assumption.

          Effectively the A mount is a different system to the E mount, almost to the same degree as it is to Canon, or Nikon, so I don’t see too many switching again. Certainly not the numbers to affect economics.

          As I mentioned in my reply, too, I don’t think there are sufficient existing A mount users either; Sony would need to continue to get people switching brands.

          I have made the point before that Sony could do this as a marketing ploy, trying to get themselves amongst the visible ranks at public events, to bring acceptance to the marque, but it is a tricky plan to pull off and needs a lot of investment, especially in the support side.

          To repeat, the difficulty they face is how to position this new product. If it doesn’t perform significantly better than existing bodies then it will be greeted by disappointment. If it is fantastic, all those existing owners you mention will be devastated if the price is twice what they paid for the A900 or A99. And could you imagine the A7Rii buyers if it undercuts that, yet has much better tech?

          A tricky balancing act indeed!

          1. I don’t mean that jumpers to FE would jump again to A-mount. I meant that users who have discovered Sony through A7 would be open to trying the A99II for improved performance and the same IQ.

            Sony FE is nice in many ways, but if you are used to shooting a mature SLR system, they don’t exactly overlap.

            Sony knows that A7 series aren’t action and sports shooters, exactly. Neither are the FE lenses. That would be solved by getting a high-performance a-mount with the existing lens line-up.

            It also helps a lot to be able to use the same workflow for images from all cameras. When I shot both Canon and Sony, the images looked different and I had to work them differently too.

  31. I hope they double the size of the A99. I hope the a99II flies in the face of small and light. Carve it out of pure steel for all I care. Give me two viewfinders side by side (OVF/EFV). Pay no attention to the masses of nay sayers….. BIG BIG BIG!!!!!!!

    1. Steel is magnetic and isn’t corrosion resistant. They should use something harder and more practical, like tungsten.

      1. Tungsten is too hard, near impossible to machine.
        How about depleted uranium?
        Magnesium is the metal of choice for light and strong, plus easy to cast, and it’s what they use now for most cameras.
        And his comment about steel was just generic remark about not cutting corners on build quality.

          1. Thinking pictures? Yes, I think he didn’t specifically mean steel, but he wanted it built tough, capable of taking a beating.

    2. Just make it with a titanium frame and user exchangeble magnesium alloy body panels/parts with hex screws. Will look badass too and in case of damage just replace a panel. Enables super weatherproofing since you can put a seal under each panel.

        1. Then Explain to me why cameras are so badly sealed today? Plethora of panels? There don’t need to be more panels then cameras already have. Like front, back, top and bottom. Problem is that they need very complex seams and sealing. Increasing the number of panels Actually decreases seam complexity.

  32. A FF NEX-7/A6000 is all I want, and the FW’s to be updated.
    I’m getting tired of waiting for the stupid changes Sony made after the NEX-7, bring back one button press to get the focus assist zoom, and image review was also much better.

      1. I’m sorry, it’s not, not even close, the EVF location is different, and protrudes beyond the body, I had to buy a new camera bag just for my A7r because it wouldn’t fit the bag my NEX-7 calls home.

  33. Update the 35/2.8 Zeiss. Give it f/2 and I’ll probably buy it. Make one for APS-C at a lower price and I will definitely buy it.

  34. I truly wish they’d release the a7 mk3. Same pixel count but with the af of the a7mk2. No 4k, improved ibis, touchscreen. Once that comes, ill jump ship to Sony.

    1. Actually, you don’t need to wait. Those changes would be inconsequential to an alteady great camera. AF is already as good as it gets on APS-C. IBiS works great. Touchscreen wouldn’t add much as it’s faster to use customised buttons. You’ll get a good deal on the kit with 16-50, and you won’t look back 😉

      1. Thats not what I experienced in the AF side. In good light, yes its up there with the best in mirrorless. In low / dim light? Forget about it, go MF. My Fuji X-e2 is way better in that scenario. The a7mk2 is perfect for me aside from the horrendous low light AF.

          1. I used the 55mm 1.8 during my 2 day testing. Well, good for you. All reviews Ive read reported the bad low light af of the a7ii which is in line with my experience. What lens are you using? I may rent what youre using along with the body again.

          2. Sorry, I misread your post. I thought it was about a77mIII.

            On mirrorless, I still have the a7r, which I certainly didn’t buy for the AF 😉

    1. It’s about time someone broke the laws of physics? Now that would make for an interesting new year.

      Either that, or wheelbarrow sales would soar…needed to transport the lenses everyone would have!

      1. So you mean during the F4 beer can era, F2.8 zoom is something that defy the law of physics?

        This “you can’t broke the law of physics” mentality have been abused & misused by many who simply have no vision or someone does not involved in or understand the tech industry. Same goes to many that says mirrorless has reached its bottle neck but see what mirrorless has become today.

        1. There is a reason the 300mm f2.8 lenses are as big, heavy, and expensive as they are.

          To create the lenses you have listed and incorporate a zoom mechanism, they would be huge, extraordinarliy complex, and expensive beyond the dreams of Croesus.

          The beercan was 695g and the 70-200 f2.8 is 1300g. In a similar vein, a
          70-200 f1.8 would be at least 2600g and likely, if you want quality, a
          great deal more. The 70-200 f2.8 is currently £2199 and the 300mm f2.8 is £5299. I would fully expect a 70-200 f1.8 to be in the region of £10,000 – £12,000

          So if you think the manufacturers have no vision, you go ahead and sell them the idea. I’m sure they’ll all jump on board without hesitation!

          1. Sigma make a 120-300mm f2.8 which is barely any different size wise to a 300mm f2.8, because (big shock) that’s how big a 300mm f2.8 needs to be. It also costs considerably less than a 300mm f2.8 from the OEMs.

            There have also been 200mm f1.8 and 200mm f2 lenses. While obviously bigger than a f2.8 is still feasible to make a zoom 70-200mm f1.8 (which would be about the size of the Sigma, but likely somewhat shorter).

          2. What is it about you that makes you want to argue even if your position is nonsense?

            First, the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 is 1kg heavier than their own 300mm f2.8.
            The 200 f1.8 and f2.0 are also extremely heavy and not even zooms (the Nikon 200 f2 is heavier and more expensive than their 300 f2.8)

            Apart from which, if such lenses that the OP wished for are reasonable, please provide me with the list of the perhaps 6 variants that Canon make, or the possible half a dozen that Nikon make, or the tens that Sigma surely makes, or perhaps you construct your own? You can’t? Maybe that’s because the point I made was entirely valid and you have only contradicted for your own sad, mischievous purpose.

            To repeat, these lenses would be far too big for easy use, and if they were to provide acceptable quality when wide open (if not there would be no point at all) they would be likely be very expensive.

            Given that all of this is so evident, I will not be engaging further in a futile waste of more time. Feel free to post more nonsense.

          3. “if such lenses that the OP wished for are reasonable, please provide me with the list of the perhaps 6 variants that Canon make, or the possible half a dozen that Nikon make, or the tens that Sigma surely makes”

            So in order for something to be possible or plausible somebody already has to make them? And have made them for a long time with many different versions? If we listened to people like you we’d still be living in caves.

            I’m sure ‘experts’ such as yourself said the same thing before f2.8 zooms existed. Before the Sigma 120-300mm existed. Before there were 20mm f1.4 lenses. F1.8 zooms, blah blah. Because physics right?!

          4. If so, then I guess the current F2.8 zoom will not took off during the beer can era consider it is much more heavier, bigger, and more expensive than the F4 predecessor. But it seems like it is not the case, F4 have been abandoned and F2.8 is today’s standard fast zoom.

            People these days seems to opt for a big & heavy expensive lenses just for the performance, such as the Otus line, which is big, heavy and expensive in its own class.

            Of course there have been some fast cine zoom at F2.2 which is big and expensive around for some time, but Sigma’s new 24-35 F2.0 shows the possibility of faster constant zoom lenses in the future~

          5. I’m not sure why you mention the beercan, as though it was a precursor to faster lenses. There were f2.8 lenses before it was released in 1985 and the very reason for its existence was the precise point I made: to be light, a reasonable size, and not too expensive.

            There may well be a few people who would have the money and the desire for a humongous set of lenses, but I can assure you they are few and far between, to the extent that manufacturers will not be catering to them by producing such items ever.

            So, when you say ‘people’, I think your implication of it being the majority is simply misplaced. The Otus line may be excellent, but it is a very, very small niche.

            I don’t mean to be disparaging, but if you believe me to be wrong, while your opinion is correct, surely we should be seeing plenty of Sigma 200-500mm f/2.8 lenses. After all, it might be huge and very expensive, but people want fast lenses and don’t care about the drawbacks!

  35. All I want for Christmas is an A7000! No, not for me, but just so I dont have to ever again read another person bitching and whining about the damn sequel to the darn NEX7 like it was the greatest thing human kind has ever seen….BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. I may be in a minority here but what I would really like to see is a a7s virgin of the a6000. taking the a7s low light capability in the smaller and cheaper APS – C size. This would be much more useful to me then a 32 mpg sincer with the same ISO range of the a6000.

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