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(SR4) Looks like the Sony A6100 will be announced (at last!) by mid-end November?

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Sony just announced the new Sony A68. And the Sony A6100 should come very soon too! One of the sources who shared the A68 release info also said he knows the ASP-C E-mount camera will be announced within weeks in a much more “bigger event”.

So far we have some undconfirmed A6100 specs and info via three new sources:

28MP Exmor R sensor (SR2 from Source_1)
399 AF points (SR2 from Source_1)
4D autofocus (SR3 from Source_2)
internal 4K recording (SR3 from Source_2)
shipment late 2015 (SR3 from Source_2)
A6xxx announcement soon (SR4 from Source_3)

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    1. A7000 tomorrow, end of Nov, A6100.

      A7000 – pro aps-c body, internal 4K, no touch screen

      A6100, no evf, tilting touch screen, same feature set as A7000 and cheaper price.

    1. E-mount include all FF A7 cameras and all FE lenses BTW. So you should change your phrase to APS-C E-mount is dead.

    1. IBIS adds significant heft and size to the camera. I would wager that they keep it reserved for the a7 series.

      1. A7ii, A7Rii, and A7Sii are all labeled as “weather resistant” and generally better “weather sealing” than their predecessors. Unfortunately, there’s no industry standard for “weather sealed” to say that it can survive at least X, so saying that it is weather sealed doesn’t mean it’s in the same league as an EM5ii or K-S2…

        All things considered, though, I’d take weather resistance to a level equivalent to at least an A77ii over nothing.

        1. This was pretty much debunked by tear-downs, there are 0 seals present even on the newest of models. I’ve seen an A7 II fried by the tiniest rain storm and it was covered up as well

          1. Gee, I’m wondering how unlucky the person is, I’ve shot my A7s in light rain and waterfall spray quit a few times and never had a problem.

      1. There is just no point. I mean low end sales is probably all that is left. Is there any other DSLR mount with less enthusiasm at this point then Sony? Even Pentax has more buzz going on and they haven’t even released their FF yet! I feel like I”m in the twilight Zone with this shiiit.

        2016 Goal: Time to pick up another FF system (NOT MIRRORLESS).

        1. What Pentax is doing now is very much like what Sony did with A900. A while to build up anxiety – early mock-up, then some prototypes, then more prototypes, and only year and half later the actual product. The camera was revolutionary at the time. It offered higher resolution than anything at a relatively low price (1Ds3 was almost $8k and bit later D3x arrived at $8k as well). There was much for the A-mount crowd to cheer about when it finally materialized.
          I doubt Pentax will be really revolutionary in any practical way. It will sell to die-hard Pentax users, who are obviously way more patient than Sony users, but why would anyone new choose that system over say D810?

          1. Indeed, if one is truly bent on having a true DSLR/T camera yet these days, it’s hard to see much reason for not simply buying into Canikon. I’m going the other way, will hopefully be totally mirrorless by end of 2016, save for maybe keeping my A77II for sports/wildlife stuff.

          2. But A-mount is clearly going away; that’s the point. Honestly, if you had a friend new to photography asking you for advice on what DSLR system to buy into, would you really steer them to A-mount at this point?

          3. The point is a little bit different. To be able to ‘let go’ of A-Mount, Sony need to release a DSLR-quality mirrorless and f/2.8 zooms for FE, bringing mirrorless fully into the big leagues. And if this happens, all SLR mounts – EF, F, A, K, SA – are done.
            So the question would be if this person should be buying into a DSLR system at this point. If yes, A-Mount seems a viable choice: A77II -best APS-C on the market, and A lenses will be best supported by future mirrorless.

          4. At the current cost of a lot of Sony’s A mount equipment I see little reason to switch over quickly. E mount lenses need time to settle down in price beside the 55 IMO. With a true pro body and another year or two of lens releases we just might….might be there.

            Adapters are no longer an option for me. I’ve written them off as a gimmick.

          5. Yeah, I guess it all depends on what you shoot, too. Lately with my landscape/cityscape stuff, I’ve been using adapted lenses on my A6000, and I’ve been thrilled with the results; and having that much smaller/lighter body to carry when hiking withe equipment all on my person is really nice. Of course, I don’t need snappy, ultra-fast, continuous AF when doing that kind of stuff. I definitely wouldn’t use that same setup for shooting a bike race, for example. Then I’d either throw those lenses on my A77, or else use a native lens on the A6000.

          6. Yeah, as a former Pentaxian, who still owns most of his old Pentax glass – I have no interest in this new body. I’m really tired of Pentax’s “one step forward, two steps backwards” mess. Every new Pentax body seems to fix one major complaint with the previous one and totally break something else. (I forget what they broke in the K-7, but I know I skipped that even though I think it fixed the K20D’s forced auto-DFS… Or was it that they didn’t even fix that until the K-5?)

        2. Quite the opposite! Sony has reported before that A99 is the only A99 camera they make profit on. Also that overall they break even on A-mount as a whole. This means only one thing A-mount low end cameras makes them losses only.
          Effectively, they are only maintaining them for their ungrateful customers!

          1. The only way this is correct is if you assume that Sony is really, really stupid. How have a-mount users been “ungrateful?” No one, particularly Sony, could reasonably expect that the owner of an a99 or a77 is going to run out to buy an a68 to express “gratitude” to Sony. Nor do existing a mount users gain much (if anything) from the release of an entry level a-mount camera that most of them won’t buy. Is that what you are saying or am I missing something here?

            This is a camera which is designed to bring new entrants into the Sony system. The hopeful sign for existing a-mount users is that Sony has to give them a reason to stay there.

          2. According to couple of Sony interviews that have been around, out of all A-mount cameras they are only making profit on A99 and losing money on crops sensor A-mount bodies.

            The logic is that, if they are updating their least popular current body (A65 that loses them money), they are definitely going to update A99 and most likely A77II as well.

            Why I called A-mount users ‘ungrateful’?
            Simple, Sony are announcing at least one A-mount body each year, they keep updating lenses, price everything competitively and A-mount users keep complaining on a daily basis. There is a certain limit to the amount of whining that other readers here can take.

          3. I don’t disagree with anything you have said except I am not sure I would agree that a-mount users have been “ungrateful.”

            Gratitude implies that a-mount purchasers should be thanking Sony for some sacrifice which benefits the a-mount users, doesn’t it? However, in a commercial relationship, sellers don’t really expect gratitude. They expect to be paid by the buyer for what they produce.

            If anything, I think many a-mount owners have been loyal to Sony beyond the point where some might consider that a reasonable or wise choice. (And it has to be said that a-mount users’ loyalty has not been selfless. Many are highly invested in a-mount because of a-mount lenses already purchased.)

            When you buy into a closed camera system, there is a certain reasonable expectation that the manufacturer will at reasonable intervals offer you new products for purchase which incorporate new advancements in technology and improve on older models. That is where Sony is on the threshold of failure (in my eyes) as to a-mount users. The a99 is way beyond its prime and is overdue for replacement. The “whining” you hear is the consequence of unmet reasonable expectations by Sony users.

            Whining is an incredibly powerful force, and I doubt Sony is bothered by it so much as it should be encouraged that people care enough about their product to demand more from Sony.

            As for the a68, even if Sony will take a loss (doubtful) it is not acting selflessly either. Sony is trying to capture a new generation of a-mount user into its system, from whom it hopes it will benefit over the long run.

            The a68 does nothing directly for most current a-mount users. If you own an a99 or an a77mII, you are not very likely to buy an a68 (though there are exceptions to every rule) which on balance is not an upgrade. They are indirect beneficiaries, however, because Sony needs to build out its customer base to justify a continuation of the line.
            It would be naïve to believe that Sony is doing this out of the kindness of its heart (and therefore deserves gratitude from a-mount users.) Sony needs to convince a-mount uses that the a-mount system is still vital so existing a-mount users will continue to invest in the system, i.e., buy its products . . . particularly a-mount lenses. Presumably, while the per unit profit margin on camera bodies is relatively small, the per unit profit margin on the higher end a-mount lenses must be huge. Sony needs to drive the sale of those lenses.

      2. Sounds like the A99ii will have A7 II sensor, and just better AF / ISO / FPS than before. Wanna bet? Lololollll Sony.

    1. If I was paranoid, I would say that it’s done on purpose ^^ “Looks how shitty A-mount is now, sorry this is the best we can do, but in E-mount guys, hehe look at the marvelous tech we can put in it!”

      I don’t care, I don’t know any A-mount camera, but a crippled A77II, a middle range camera announced alone, with no other low end or high end FF camera, hmmm… Despite the fact that A68 is indeed an A-mount announcement, in the end I think that it’s a pretty bad news for A-mount users…

      Wait and see, Sony can still surprises everybody with a FF A-mount body and guys like me will look stupid with their false prediction, but I don’t think that Sony is in the mood for such a camera.

      They will never reach Canikon with DSLR or DSLR like. This is to late now.

      They should focus on E-mount. I mean : officially…

    2. what’s your problem with the specs, A68 is an entry level camera, A6100 will be an enthusiast product, which is higher in the market.

      1. It’s only an entry-level camera because Sony already killed the actual entry-level cameras that sat below it in the line. Look at where the A65 was positioned in the line-up when it was released, and it was hardly considered the entry-level option.

          1. No, A65 screen is on a joint, it turns all the way. You’re probably confusing it with A57 screen

          2. The A65 one tilts and swivels, the one on the A68 only tilts. Besides resolution is lower on the A68.

          3. The A65 swivels?? It only tilts. Just checked it on DPReview: you can tilt it up and down, nothing more. Only A77, A77-II and A99 ones also swivels.
            Yes, Resolution is less…

          4. It’s an improvement over its predecessor, yes, but what does it really offer over the E-mount equivalent? Again, a nice update for existing A-mounters that are currently shooting with an A37, A57, A65, etc., but nothing that would draw in new users; no clear advantage over E-mount. It’s a string-along camera until they get adapted OSPDAF perfected on the E-mount cameras. Nothing wrong with that, but recognized it for what it is.

          5. But none of those matter to entry level buyers, most of whom will likely choose the A6000 over this, especially since we won’t actually see this for 5 more months.

            A68 = DOA. Fail.

  1. An A7II sized body without the “prism” and with side EVF could be possible for APS-C.
    I still find the NEX-7 design better, but there’s no way to put IBIS in that body.

      1. No thanks. That thing looks like 4x maintenance hell due to grit and dust getting stuck into the crevices.

      1. This is one of those cameras scheduled for release back in 2010, in the old days. They probably put this on ice because of waning DSLR sales, but now they can release it with claims that it is retro.

          1. “huh?” pretty much says everything: I don’t understand what you are trying to say with your words “Even this camera comes with a native 24-70 f/2.8.
            FE is so far in the future, not much of it is present.”
            It just does not make sense, sorry 😀

          2. Even Pentax FF will have native 24-70 f/2.8 from the start.
            FE has none, due to the bogus ‘compactness’.
            Everybody keeps saying ‘mirrorless is the future’, but not much of this future has materialized here in the present.

  2. So no surprise tomorrow? Or, the surprise is that the rumored announcement won’t happen, but a new rumor has been released? What if we get an a6100 – is an a7000 still rumored? I’m totally lost. Rumors, rumors of rumors, meta-rumors. We need a Rumor Stabilization technology.

  3. all I need is a 16MP with ISO performance similar to Nikon D750 and it’s a mirror less in professional A99 body, why Sony? why it’s so difficult???

  4. If it’s A6100 – it means it will have touchscreen and higher Mp compared to A6000 and faster, better AF, but probably no EVF, Look at A5000 to A5100 analogy.

      1. Main improvement in the A5100 vs A5000 was the inclusion of the A6000’s sensor.

        So I’d expect to see something more like A6100 and A7000 sharing a new sensor, with the A7000 containing ??? extra features – IBIS? External mic input? Who knows. I suspect touchscreen is unlikely, since the A6000 doesn’t have it and it’s generally reserved for lower-end “consumer” bodies.

    1. Admin posted similar rumor yesterday. Could be true. I hope for example that one of them has a bigger, faster, stronger body, an E-mount version of the A77II so to speak, but than smaller and lighter.

        1. Sure – mirrorless-rumors admin reads our comments and filters for upvotes. With 15 upvotes and more, it becomes a SR5

      1. Mirrorless rumors gets most of his stories as SAR reposts…but is not affiliated with SAR.
        Look at the credits and you will see where each post originates.

      1. Well, FF have plenty, but just a 16-50mm F2.8 constant zoom for APS-C E-mount’s , and a very long zoom would attract the attention even more on the APS-C E-mount camera.

  5. 4d focus is a firmware algorithm and currently on the a6000 and a5100.
    Sony should make this available as a firmware upgrade to the a7rii.

  6. The main thing that causes my photos to be technically-bad (as opposed to photos lacking artistic quality) is camera shake due to low light. Hence, the only feature I’d upgrade for is IBIS combined with a BSI sensor.

    None of the above improvements address the main problem I have with my A6000.

    Since I’m very happy with the A6000 — apart from what I’ve said above — if there is no IBIS and BSI in this next APS-C Sony, then I’ll sit out one iteration and wait for the next one in 2 years time.

  7. 4k = recording time limit, like the RX100IV. But I’m still all for it, some 4k is better than no 4k and a smaller/cheaper b-cam is what I need to go with the A7rII. Hopefully one day these APS-c E-mount rumors become a reality, I’ve been wanting to upgrade my a5100 for awhile.

  8. Because Sony doesn’t build cameras just for you? Sarcasm aside, it’ll be at least 24mp, and maybe more if its an all new sensor. If you want 16mp, Fuji is your only choice.

  9. The sensor will most likely stay at 24MP but with better ISO performance such as their new IMX271 that also has incredibly fast read channels that virtually eliminates rolling shutter. That and the multi-axis SteadyShot.

    1. I don’t think Sony spoils the surprise or announcement or whatever they plan by putting the sensor-spec on a published paper.

    2. a6000 already has IMX271, otherwise it would not be able to do 11 fps. And no, it does not have “incredibly fast read channels that virtually eliminates rolling shutter”, it only can read the whole sensor at 19 fps, so the 16:9 crop maybe at 24fps, at most 30 with low-quality 8-bit readout.

    1. Except the A6000-2 has EVF.
      The next A5100 successor is closer to NX500 – and it has for sure a touchscreen.

  10. It was supposed to be November 6 before it supposed to be August before it was supposed to be June before it was supposed to be May before…

  11. In other news, the abominable snowman has been spotted in NYC streets…handing out ice cream to bystanders.

    But seriously admin, enough with these Ax000 rumors. You’ve let us down quite enough. Just, stop.

  12. What about slow motion? Shouldn’t be hard after releasing a 960fps point-and-shoot. 4K is pretty much expected, as is an electronic shutter. Internal OIS would be great but I don’t think they will do that.

  13. 10 hours ago someone posted this on DPreview:


    A6100 and A7000:
    28 MP BSI 23.5×15.6mm
    399 PDAF
    Updated CDAF routines
    Low-light focusing and metering -3 EV
    EVF
    Touchscreen LCD, 3.15″, 1.2M screen dots
    ISO 64-51200 (expansion L1: ISO 50, expansion H1: 102400, multi-frame NR: ISO 204800)
    Silent electronic shutter up to 1/32000
    Mic-in
    Orientation sensor
    X AVC
    4K in-camera recording
    1080p HFR (high frame rate)
    Can record two JPEG sizes simultaneously (e.g. full-size and small-size) either in JPEG or RAW+JPEG mode
    Can record still photos (in 16:9 aspect ratio) while recording video
    WiFi NFC
    USB 3.0

    A6100 only:
    The EVF is the same as A6000, EVF cannot be used while LCD is in selfie position
    The LCD can facilitate selfie photographers: 180 degrees up, 70 degrees down
    Mechanical shutter same as A6000, standard durability
    Continuous mode: Same as A6000
    No weather sealing
    No headphone port
    Has OLPF
    Flash same as A6000
    Standard set of buttons
    Standard RAW/JPEG buffer
    SDXC UHS-II, very fast write-out
    Weight: 352g
    Dimensions: 117x70x48mm
    Battery life about 440 shots
    Price about $900

    A7000 only:
    The EVF is 2.36M, 100%, 0.85%
    The LCD can’t do selfies: 90 degrees up, 82 degrees down
    Mechanical shutter 1/8000, extra durability (rated at 200,000 shots)
    Continuous mode: 14.5 fps
    Has weather sealing (kit lens won’t be weather-sealed but weather-sealed lenses will be announced later)
    Has headphone port
    Has a user-selectable OLPF which can be switched on or off
    Flash range at ISO 100: 9m, can act as a wireless flash commander
    Advanced set of buttons
    Large RAW/JPEG buffer
    Dual SDXC UHS-II, very fast write-out
    Dual
    memory card write modes: 1) Raw in Card1, JPEG/movies in Card2; 2)
    RAW/JPEG in Card1, movies in Card2; 3) Everything in Card1, auto-backup
    in Card2
    Special deletion modes provided: User can delete photo or
    movie from one card while retaining it in the other card (when a
    suitable write mode is selected), or can delete it from both cards
    GPS/GLONASS/Beidou satellite receiver
    Digital compass
    Basic world map for satellite provided, advanced maps will be available as paid app update
    Special
    mode: can be set to automatically take photo(s) or video when camera
    satellite receiver detects it has entered a user-specified geographical
    area or is within a user-specified distance from a user-specified
    geographical spot
    Weight: 411g
    Dimensions: 125x76x55mm
    Battery life about 400 shots
    Price about $1300

    A new firmware version for A5100 and A6000 is also on the way. It adds uncompressed RAW capability.

        1. Correct.
          In dpreview the people claim, this statements are totally fake. But reading the specs sound very reasonable and possible.
          I personally hope it is fake, because I want to see IBIS

          1. I guess I’d like IBIS too, but not if it adds size and weight. I have a feeling they won’t put that in because they have to have some major features driving people to there FF line, and the small differences in IQ aren’t going to be enough in the long run. Just a hunch.

    1. Completely agree Alex. Been waiting on the announcement. And it was SR4. Trying not to pull the trigger on any Cyber Monday deals cause I do need a new camera. I just want A Sony cam.

    1. There were some deals for less than $450. Just depended on where you bought from. But should be some Christmas sales as well. I’m trying to hold off cause I know the successor will be announced any day now.

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