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Nabil Fathi just posted a video showing what he claims to be a [shoplink 40595 ebay]hacked Sony A7s[/shoplink]! He writes:
This is just a teaser of upcoming hack similar to magic lantern that will be available for the Sony A7S, possible on the A7S II but not sure yet..Higher bitrate, better subsampling (HDMI 10bit 422), 4K recording, etc…
The video can be seen here:
I have no info yet if that is a “real” hack or if that’s just an APP with modified menu and no real new functions…So please take it with a BIG grain of salt! It would certainly be amazing to suddenly have such BIG new features on your Sony A7s. But we have no real proof yet that this is a real hack and if it really works.
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Certainly a fake…
It’s not the first time this guy make a hoax about camera firmware hacking (see Olympus OMD hack a few years ago)
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Looks like they got access to hardware / replaced gui. h.263 / 250kBit / 20fps is hopefully not, what they intend. Curious to see, what the project will achieve as a Sony manager stated earlier that the Bionz processor is not able to handle more than 8 Bit in video modes.
h.263? So it’s 4k video conferencing with this 250Kbit stream?
I thought the same, but watch his comments on Vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/139784830
Nonsense. This guy ‘claims’ 4K is 4096×4096 square format. The guy just wants attention by putting a video on his camera and playing it back. Nothing to see here.
A great news would be a hack on the Play memories App system, to be able to install any kind of app from any developer, that would be the game changer.
Here you go https://developer.sony.com/2013/11/29/how-to-develop-an-app-using-the-camera-remote-api-2/
That’s only for developing remote apps for smartphones, not for writing apps to install on the camera.
Here you go 2 https://sony-pmca.appspot.com
Cool, how are you enjoying the apps?
Have not tried it out. I’m not an android programmer, but have programmed a little ios (and studied image processing) so I’m tempted to try.
Good luck with that 😛
thanks 🙂 but wait until more people have tried it out and it has come out more documentation.
This is my point. Don’t go claiming it’s easy just yet.
Depends on what someone wants. Forget about higher video stream, better codecs of something via this method.
But you can count on some basic functions.
For instance, I think it is the perfect option for me to make a Bracket app capable of having a 2 sec delay and n multiple exposures.
So thanks TuT for letting me know about it.
Now if I could get my hands on a Bracket Pro apk then I guess I would be able event to include also focus bracket. I couldn’t see in the API how the focus can be adjusted via Software. There is a focus point method but I think that is related to the position in the screen where the focus is :/
Tried to buy it today but can’t do it from my Country. I cannot even fake an account to be from other Country and use my Credit card or PayPal… Sony reject it. Damm :/
Only a Demo APP was released to show its potencial.
The app can be installed to camera and can display camera info, log key events and more.
A initial framework with camera functions was also provided…
I have tested the demo on Nex-6 and A6000.
https://github.com/ma1co/Sony-PMCA-RE
I can believe that somebody might have hacked the menu structure. The rest rather stretches credulity.
This is a fake. Unless he managed to hack an android app into the A7s. Notice the interface? I knew I saw this somewhere before…
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera&hl=en
Not any problem at all, the big question is will it run and not brick the camera!
https://sony-pmca.appspot.com
Seems legit. Give us your login details, we won’t save them we promise.
You really do NOT need give them the credentials…
However if you want to download (to computer the file – not to the camera!) an APP from Sony PMCA then you must login into sony pmca in order to get access to your applications.
For testing purposes you just can INSTALL the demo app to your camera.. Yes, it is safe and WORKS! Tested on several cameras!
Even better you can develop your own apps (android) and install to camera using that website.
According to Sony’s Senior Manager of Technology, the Bionz X processor of the Alpha cameras is physically limited to processing 8bit 4:2:2 video: http://resourcemagonline.com/2015/08/why-the-sony-a7r-ii-cant-shoot-10-bit-or-slow-motion-video/57624/ . If this is true, then the “hack” is a hoax.
You’re absolutely right! The internal hardware isn’t capable of handling more than 8 Bit in video mode!
A lot of people outside don’t believe that because the Atomos Shogun can record 10 Bit/4:2:2 and is advertised as the ideal companion for the A7s – you remember?
But just because the Shogun can do that there’s no need for the A7s to do that likewise… The GH4 can deliver 10 Bit on the otherside…
And to compress with h263 as the screen shots show? Oh boy… To take the advantages of 10 Bit/4:2:2 even h265 is not means to choose – such footage normally is recorded in Apple ProRes or even in RAW…
While this certainly may be a hoax, the sad fact is that there should be no need whatsoever of hacking. The single greatest thing that Sony (or any other camera manufacturer) could do to increase sales is to take a lesson from the smartphone revolution and open their platform to all developers. Google and Apple understand that, yet camera companies still seem mired in the past. There are countless developers out there who could create wonderful software for these cameras, and Sony would neither have to pay them nor support their efforts in any way, yet they would reap the benefits of wildly increased popularity. Then they could focus more on advancing their hardware, which is obviously what they prefer doing (and what they are very good at) in the first place.
Even if its true don’t think it will be possible to record much time as the overheating will be terrible.
It’s a hoax!
Same person was claming a year ago Olympus OMD E-M1 will get 4K and he personally tested the firmware. Can’t believe he is doing it again. What kind of twisted mind this is ?
http://www.43rumors.com/ft2-e-m1-silver-edition-and-4k-firmware-upgrade-coming-in-september/
http://www.eoshd.com/2014/09/4k-olympus-om-d-e-m1/
Hacker or not, he sure is not a graphic designer…
LOL
I’d say it’s a fake.
H.263, 250Kbps (not Mbps), 20fps…too many parameters that seem wrong here.
no one can able to hack sony fw, even Vitaly.K and Simeone
Actually that is not entirely true! Firmwares were unpacked for several levels and were decompiled some instructions, however modifying them and repack it again into firmware was not so easy.
Anyway that hack research allowed to get a lot information how things work:
The CORE operating system of cameras is “Linux” and latest Sony cameras include an Android subsystem which allows to install apps from the proprietary Sony PlayMemories Camera appstore. These apps avaiable on App Camera Store are android applications (someNameApp.apk) which can be installed on cameras from Sony PlayMemories Camera website.
For long time apps can be only installed on camera by Sony Playmemeories Camera Appstore, but for about 4 months ago that one can install a CUSTOM apk (not provided by sony) to their camera 🙂
that actually answers the question, what the fuck is doing there the lg camera UI – it is actually the lgCamera app.
Dirty pool this man is playin’
If it were just 4k it could be believable. If it were just an increased bitrate it could be believable. This is what I don’t get about hoaxers and the idiots that believe it. One magical hack that just increases all the functions of a camera at once into ridiculous territories, is just an idiot’s wetdream and it’s never happened before.
why people even make these kinds of hoaxes is beyond me…. doesnt affect me much since i own an a7s and a7rii
When advancing that he hacked MFT stuff, the guy asked for money via some crowdfunding in order to complete the hack.
That’s why
Be very careful with this thief
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy6fneH1Eeg
Teaser V2 Sony a7s Hack (Kiss Android)
What a weird video, if it is true he should just finish his work and then release for everyone for testing…
Great.
This v2 teaser looks like an upgraded version of PMCADemo https://github.com/ma1co/PMCADemo?files=1
Mmmm… yeah… Just because you can run Android on the A7S doesn’t necessarily mean that you can hack the recording capabilities… I would be very surprised if the Android “layer” had access to the underlying hardware in any way that is going to be able to change it’s processing from 8bit to 10bit. That’s going to happen at the firmware level, not the OS level.
Yeah, i am in some boat. Not so sure if a7s hardware would allow it.
But Android layer does really can access camera instructions so we just need to develop the code to process video data in some other better way. The proprietary sony apps do access camera instructions and then using programming to achieve some purpose.
So you can write an app for the Sony, it doesn’t mean therefor you can now re-program the camera to do whatever wet-dream you might have. Heat issues / hardware pipeline have prevented Sony from putting internal 4K, even if this is half strategy, it is still going to be an issue and you might squeeze 8 minutes of 4K recording out of the camera. But you might also kill any build in limiters and program a nice cozy A7S bonfire.
I don’t think this is a hoax, I think whomever got access to the hardware thinks he can now do things Sony engineers couldn’t or didn’t because it wasn’t a good idea.
The real headline should be: author takes safety limits of camera and find a away to possibly melt the A7S, bring your own marshmallows!
People said the same thing about Magic Lantern.
Have used it and made entire movies with it.
I’m disgusted with all the comments on here.
Since when do people have this asinine need to defend companies.
This guy is doing interesting work– and all you people want to do is knock it because — Sony is such an honorable company there is no way they would lie to us.
Sheep.
Here is more of the work he is doing– you people should be ashamed.
http://nabilfathi.tumblr.com/