I have to see it to believe it. FujiRumors reports that Fuji will announce not one…but two(!) new X system cameras at the Photokina show in September. One will be an entry level X camera (but still with hybrid viewfinder) and another will be a High End X model. While Fuji itself said months ago that a low end X model release may be possible I have a hard time thinking on an even more expensive X High End model. What could Fuji add to force us to spend more money? I doubt it will have a Full Frame sensor…that yes would be a good reason to charge some extra $$$!
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In stock status check:
Fuji X PRO 1 body is in Stock at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), Jessops UK (Click here) and Digitalrev (Click here).
Fuji X 18mm f/2.0 in Stock at Amazon (Click here) and Digitalrev (Click here).
Fuji X 35mm f/1.4 in Stock at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here) and Digitalrev (Click here).
Fuji X 60mm macro f/2.0 in not Stock at Amazon (3-4weeks) but is in Stock at Digitalrev (Click here).
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high end model…hmmm… i hope they won’t be releasing those special editions like one manufacturer has been since 2009 😀
and the lenses would work with a fullframe camera? i don´t think so….
An entry level would be welcome. But apart from saving some cost in the body build quality, what else could they cut from the current X-Pro?
A higher end could have a higher resolution/refresh rate EVF, a faster readout sensor (faster AF, better video), weather sealing (? but there are not weather sealed lenses), 2 processors for better performance… in body IS?
The only thing I can think of is that they remove the hybrid viewfinder system and go straight to EVF only. Otherwise, I can’t think of anything else they can strip out other than as you mentioned build quality.
Maybe Full frame body …
Maybe x200
a full frame body, dedicated solely to m-mount lenses, would sell like hell next to the coming (very high priced) m10 and m9 with its too high second hand prices – as a digital m user i would go straight for it!
A high end model could have a decent system of focusing (picking system?) in order to focus with M-Mount fast legacy primes – from now this camera is unusable without AF Fuji lenses.
No way they’d change the sensor size — that would invalidate all the money they’ve spent developing the X lenses, which have gotten good reviews and are one of the major appeal factors of the X-Pro line.
Just thinking about what they could do to differentiate new models without spending a lot of extra development money:
— A slightly lower-end camera could have plastic top and bottom panels and be priced to compete with the Sony NEX-7. That might be enough of a price break to convince some fence-sitters who like the optical finder and the lens line, but need a couple of hundred dollars off the pricetag before they will commit.
— A slightly higher-end camera could have a tilt LCD and an adjustable-diopter eyepiece for the EVF (which it really needs… the existing EVF doesn’t accommodate many people’s vision, and screw-in correction lenses are so 1954!)
I HOPE the “higher-end” model isn’t just a cosmetic limited edition, like the black X100 or the Hermes Leicas…
Hopefully the low-end model is more like the Natura Classica – a smaller point and shoot with a fast lens and a pocketable body. Sign me up, please.
Can’t see them releasing a higher spec model, just because of the PR nightmare it would create. The XPro is already fairly polarizing, and it;s a bit of a reach for a lot of the users cost-wise. To release new hotness so soon after the release of the XPro would piss off almost all of those users, and destroy any resale value of their cameras, just when you want them to give you more money. Apple might be able to get away with stuff like that, Fuji can’t.
Fuji ! I gots to eat too you know !
Who likes living in a tent surrounded by Fuji goodies ?
“X” or “X-Pro”? – “X” could simply mean one of those cameras is something similar to the X10 or X100.
They might also be bringing out a body that has a viewfinder that works better with the zoom lenses they are coming out with.
well… let’s think about one thing, you don’t need a license for M mount. they could possibly release high end FF body with M mount – but that’s just a theory 😉
Higher end model = faster AF, titable LDC, hybrid viewfinder with rangefinding focus(Take that, Leica!), better EVF, focus peaking, faster processor, geotagging, what else does it need?
Let’s see… a higher end could have decent AF – wow, how revolutionary! 🙂
LOL
Well it’s not exactly rocket science. The lower end camera will have interchangeable lenses, while the higher end camera will be the X100 replacement. This makes sense as one of the Fuji reps told me that next spring the X200 will be released, although he couldn’t give me any details.
Because the X200 will have a fixed lens, they theoretically could make it full frame. However, they would need something more because why get an X200 when you could get the X Pro 1 with the 35mm F1.4? So my guess is full frame, or a real rangefinder, weather sealed, etc.
Should be an interesting September!
damn, i thought my x pro 1 was high end :D. looks like they’ll have something better!
X100 replacement: Full Frame, AF, with mechanical MF, x-trans sensor, 40mm f2.0 fixed lens, same size as X100, wake me up and tell me where to bring my money…. 🙂
Divide expectations by 2 and that’s what it will be.
Hope that Fuji concentrates on getting a number of important things right before adding new, half-baked features!
The system has great potential though.
Does anybody else think there has been something lost in translation here? Surely we are just talking about X20 and X200 here? Both X cameras. Fujirumors contact is just confused..
It would be awesome if they managed to create a “lower end” model without the hybrid viewfinder, replacing it with an up to date EVF, like m43 cameras. Most folks would find that good enough, and frankly, with the upcoming zooms Fuji has in the pipeline, that would probably be a better solution for framing anyway. I hope in this third iteration of the “X concept” they finally get rid of the firmware quirks and not so fast AF once and for all. If they do that…watch out!
I bet the “high end” will utilize sony (“nikon”, hehe) 24Mp sensor, just like xpro-1 uses sony 16Mp one.
The X-Pro 1 sensor is not made by Sony.
It is. Fuji only added their silly filter.
It’s Fuji’s own sensor. And I think the high end one also can’t be Sony.
Of course ;).
“Occasionally” this “fuji” sensor behaves just like sony 16Mp at green pixels, has the same DR. And “occasionally” fuji will “invent” their 24Mp sensor )))
Dude, you are on coke or crack…but either way, get off of it.
Denis seems to think that because it’s 16mp it must be the same Sony sensor. That’s pretty flawed reasoning. He’s posting this all over the place too so he can be wrong as many times as possible I guess.
I think people think it might be a Sony 16 MP Sensor with a different CFA, does it really matter though?
It does matter because respect should be paid were due…in this case Fuij’s great ability to deliver great IQ at high ISOs and great detail in the efforts of suppresing moire and aliasing by re arranging the RGB photosites differently.
Fuji pattern doesn’t suppress any moire. Only good thing in it that all rows and columns contain three colors, thus improving noise reduction (done in software) capabilities.
The “RGB photosites” are essentially created by putting a layer of RGB filters over neutral photosites. While the underlying sensor might be a Sony sensor with a Fuji designed RGB filter layer on top – you’d have to see if the rest of the Sensor looked like a Sony sensor to fairly make that claim. Fuji have long designed their own sensors and have many patents in that area, so it seems at least as likely that it is their own.
If someone like Chipworks pulls the sensor apart maybe we will know more.
> so it seems at least as likely that it is their own.
That doesn’t prevent them from buying sensors from someone else.
Because Fuji haven’t produced APS-C sensors for a long time, and these were CCD sensors, it is more probable that they bought already available, mass produced Sony sensor.
I think there is weight to the suggestion of a fuji x200. Just scroll down the page at http://www.photowarehouse.co.nz/ It says replacement coming soon for x100.
lol, entry level for them will still be over $1000. high end for them will be over $1800 probably
you know, great image quality and an interesting viewfinder does not make up for AF, firmware and features that feel like they don’t belong in its time, 2012, especially when you’re charging that much for a camera. works for some people, doesn’t for me and many others.
it’s a problem when a company’s customers feel like they can predict what the next cameras will be like without even knowing.
I’m wondering: Maybe the X100 was a ‘toe-in-the-water’ to see if the market would accept a retro-styled, dial-driven enthusiast camera. When it flew, they knew the X-Pro1 would work. Perhaps the X200 coming at Photokina is a FF version of the X100 to see if there is a market for a FF X-Pro2.
They also know from the demand for the X-Pro1 Leica mount adapter if they can get away with depending on Leica-mount lenses for the initial launch …
“High End X model”
What could be added to X Pro 1 to make a higher end camera?
Flash, swivel LCD, another memory card slot, wireless flash compatibility? Not the things people who buy X Pro 1 would care about.
What could Fuji add to a high-end model? I’d like to say AF that actually works quickly, but the real answer is probably more megapixels.
They probably will introduce a camera designed to sell in a kit along with the new 18-55 zoom lens.
Sire you can use the lens on an X Pro1, but not while using the optical viewfinder. An EVF-only camera seems likely.
Not sure how it would be considered ‘higher end’ but maybe a rumour is just a rumour. Maybe it will just be different.
Fuji could add a good an fast AF to the TOP level X camera!
When thinking of FF, has anyone checked the specs of X-Mount? Woud that work?
Make it a larger sensor with much higher quality, larger files to rival the 35MP Nikon. Much faster Auto Focus with more easily changed AF points on the fly.
Very strange, but predicable Fuji is cheapening the X series already with more unnecessary junk. The last thing you want to do is create a decent series like this with a lot of consumer interest and possibilities, then flood the market with crap models. They must be following in Nikon’s footsteps.
All everyone that knows anything wants is a great mirrorless with optical viewfinder that shoots AF dead on sharp in low light with a full frame sensor.
You listening Fuji? Of course not.