Above you can watch a short A7rII autofocus speed test with A-mount lenses.
Many European readers from Germany, France and UK (Wex UK) told me their preorder shipped today! This means Adobe is right in time today because they added RAW support on the new A7rII and RX cameras and Lens Profiles for the new Batis lenses. Full info here: blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2015/07/lightroom-6-1-1-is-now-available.html.
A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, SonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.
Batis store links:
Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 lens in US at Adorama, Bhphoto. In Eu at Amazon DE, WexUK. In Asia at Digitalrev.
Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2.0 lens at Adorama, Bhphoto. In EU at Amazon DE, WexUK. In Asia at Digitalrev.
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I get mine when I get home after my shoot tomorrow…..anyone have any tests they want doing?
Don’t have much in the way of legacy glass apart from FD stuff, but I have access to a few canon lenses and a viltrox adapter too alongside the 24/70 FE mount
Open to suggestions/requests
Jon
http://www.jonroberts.co.uk
Noise performance would be useful if you do any tests, please!
When you have time Tracking Focus, Rolling Shutter FF and Crop mode (not Screen record, actual output video), Does the 4K run in to overheating before the 30min mark. Please state the memory card used.
Can’t wait to Get mine. Canada may be a little behind. The store I pre-ordered from is predicting mid August. Hope you have fun with the camera
Thanks
can do…I have some sandisk sdxc UHS 3 64gb cards…my only concern is if my computer can handle the footage!
Anything you can do would be appreciated. I don’t think my computer is up for the 4K task. But I would like to shoot some and upgrade my computer after I pay off the A7Rii. One thing at a time. Bought my lenses 2 months ago, just to spread out the cost.
yep, then you need to upgrade your memory cards…then your hard drive capacity, then your laptop……then the cycle starts all over again, by the time you can afford it all 8k is on your doorstep!
I have been looking to upgrade for a while so I have been upgrading little by little. I have already bought 2x 128 gig Lexmark 150MB/s read speed SDXC cards ($57USD each). If 4k writes at 100 mbps = 12.5 MB/s aprox then these cards should be fine. Last Black Friday I picked up 2x 5TB external drives ($129 Canadian each). a year ago I bought a laptop but I think I will need a desktop to edit 4K. I have cashed in all the Gift cards I found lying around the house to pick up other odds and ends. I’m not even thinking about 8K. I stayed with my old Sony a350 since 2008, so I am sticking with this one as long as possible. I’m not a upgrade every year guy.
Can you please do some low light tests? Very important for events, such as weddings…
Pick up some Canon L glass and do some tests
got access to a few from people I know – 70-200 f2.8L ii, 24-70 2.8L ii and 90mm macro L with a viltrox adapter…should be interesting
Can someone, like, do something like, you know, tracking, like, totally?
No silly. Everyone knows that testers never really leave their apartments other than to pick up the UPS package from outside their door.
Is it just me, or is it REALLY THAT FREAKING SLOW?
And here I was hoping for a breakthrough with A-Mount glass…
Yup. This is the reason I never pre-order and wait for decent reliable reviews, firmware updates and a post launch price drop.
It’s just a sensible approach not to be influenced by hype and hysteria. It’s not loose change this thing.
I had 2 statements conflicting in my head:
1) The one from Sony, where A7rII has 40% faster AF than A7r
2) Various blogs and reviews, neither doing a proper coverage on AF speed, but each showing a fairly fast AF with Canon glass.
I guess i’ve got to wait a little more, before this tech is polished. Sounds to me like i’ll be having 1 more iteration of A-Mount bodies.
Just hold out for the reviews and a price drop, Stan. What’s the rush?
Not rushing at all. Just was hoping for more impressive results with all the hype.
This is what 28 day return periods are there for!
As an a7r user currently I think it’s still encouraging, I’m more interested to see what this thing can do with native lenses, the adapted lenses is more of a bonus for me
the first camera in this video is the A7II not A7rII. It’s slow.
After 0:23 it’s the A7rII which focuses instant
No it doesn’t. Takes about 2 seconds from the shutter press to focus lock. Better than A7II, but far from instant.
Nowhere its 2 seconds. Check the finger moving on the shutter button
2 seconds?!? Are you on crack?
Looks to be a different camera without a7rii written on it and 24MP on lcd (A7ii?).
Its 24mp in the beginning, probably A7 or A7II, and 42mp in the 2nd half of the video. Noticeably faster, but still sloooow. I’d say it’s somewhere around 2s AF speed.
You don’t see when he pushes the Shutter button. On the A7rII it looks almost instant to me when he moves the finger. Everything else would be a big surprise after the beta tests
nowhere near 2s, FYI my 5D3 and 70-200 F2.8 doesn’t focus any faster, and with the same lens (Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art) they are about equal as well
Exactly. And the guy saying 2 seconds obviously has no idea how long 2 seconds actually is!
I can count.
Most DSLRS focus in under 1s. This felt like in the upper half of the 2nd second.
From the shutter press to af lock, it felt much longer than a typical dslr like the ancient by today’s standards A580, A55, A65…
Now i’d love to see some proper scientific tests. Not that i regularly need that kind of AF speed, but when I do, “I drink dos equis :-)”
Were you also watching when he pressed his finger on the shutter to start the autofocus. Looked very fas to me. I just put my A99 and 85 1.4 (my last screw drive lens) on Craigslist. A7RII will arrive middle of next week.
It says it in the caption. First is A7II then A7RII, both with LAEA3.
The latter tests seemed a bit faster, yet still seemed slower than the tests I saw with Canon lenses via Metabones adapter.
The latter is the A7rII. The first half of the video is the 24mp camera, as HF noted. Most probably the A7 or A7II.
But yeah, Canon tests seemed to be faster.
it lists which camera, adapter, and lens is used for each section on screen.
Yes, it IS that freaking slow. E-mount is great for landscapes, portraits and still life work, but I wouldn’t touch it for sports & reportage. Can you imaging trying to shoot a bike race with that thing? Or soccer?
Can you imagine if Sony really did dump A-mount right now? EVERY photographer they have who shoots sports would be forced to dump the system!
read the captions, the title is misleading, the first camera is A7 II NOT the A7r II, and FYI, I have my 5D3 and 70-200 F2.8 II in hand and it doesn’t focus any faster than the A7r II as seen here
I’m not surprised! 5D3 certainly isn’t the standard for AF performance. After shooting with the likes of Canon 1Dx and Sony A77II, this and yes, even 5D3 seem laggy by comparison.
but I wouldn’t consider it “frigging slow”, sure it’s not the fastest in the world but it can easily handle soccer matches or bike races, I don’t expect the A7r II with non-native lenses will focus like the 1DX but 5D3 levels of performance will make me very happy
So what you are saying is that while this AF is ‘friggin slow’ it is the second fastest that Sony has ever produced (behind only the A77 II, and this is with non native lenses)? Yeah I guess it can’t hold a candle to A-Mount cams! *sigh*
LOL even my aging A99 is faster than that, mate!
LOL!
I was kind of hoping for this tech to be a bit faster. It is much faster(2nd half of the video) than A7II in the first part of the video. Its just not yet ready to be a DSLR replacement. A good reason for me to buy 1 more round of A-Mount bodies.
Me too!
No update for CS6 raw support or lens profiles? Funny how this update comes so soon after canceling support for CS6. Can’t use a7RII with it? Anyone know for sure?
it’s encouraging to see the difference between the A7ii and the A7Rii in this video. When more reviews come out I might consider looking at getting adapted glass. Or maybe rent some glass when I get my A7Rii.
Cool, I’d love a A7rII raw file to try in the Lightroom 6.1.1!!!!! Also, does anyone know if Lightroom plays/imports the Sony video formats? I know it doesn’t render 4k yet. I live in Lightroom!
theres some posted on dpreview
Premiere is a more suitable application for video IMHO…
I have my 90mm macro fe lens, my collection of A mount lenses, and an laea3….the only thing I dont have yet is my a7rii.
Soon… 😉 hopefully B&H will start shopping on 5th.
Camera Raw 9.1.1 Plugin Installer:
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html
The FE cameras still have a long way to go with AF. Once they achieve that, they are golden. In the meantime I continue using my A77II for fast paced action (Sony’s fastest) and my A7 with 70-200 for portraits.
You realise this is a test of non native lenses right? Native are much faster and have better tracking than non native. The A77 II is going to be faster with A-Mounts but I wouldn’t be so sure against native lenses.
You need to compare apples to apples. On the A mount, the is no camera that has as fast and accurate AF as the A77II. On the E mount the A6000 is fast enough but no camera so far FE can get there on AF speed. I do truly hope sony can make it work on FE as fast as the A6000 or A77II but they still need to get there and make it affordable for most of us.
If the A7RII can do that will be great but at a very high price tag. Also, there is a need of a good FE 24-70 F2.8
did you use the first SLT? i mean A55. I’m often using this little cam to shot sports events with AF-C and comparing to A77 on middle cross, there’s no big difference in practic.
What we saw in A7RM2 was beyond expectation. This “long way” may take only 1-2 years
That’s a very reasonable time
BTW Sony updated some A-mount lenses prorably for them to work better with E-mount cams
More than “shipped today,” many have delivered. There are a host of RAWs over at the dpreview forums.
Can you elaborate? Any US shipments or Deliveries?
Europe, as far as I can tell.
Here are some links with RAWs.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hxatfgdexcz7ijn/AAA8i2MY9jVFypSFTINAoCCHa?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2yp6rpj1lnvumdg/AAAJ9-WhIbyA1k-DVMGO3nVEa?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pmw0e4j71u4m5oc/AABlCb7BR6h3L4bHRAIOl2Afa?dl=0
anything on the RX2!?
That’s nowhere near 2 seconds as is being said by a few below. With the a7rii it’s nearly instant. Stop hunting for issues. Leave that for the Nikon guy that will fill this post when he finishes reviewing the D7000 for the 300th time.
I’m very impressed. Didn’t care much for the 25600 ISO, but I never shoot that high. The 160 ISO at 4:1 in Lightroom look VERY GOOD. I did some extreme adjustments to the ladies eye. 100+ on the saturation, shadows, clarity, some color temp. And it held up perfectly. Even though those ARW are not very nice, he was shooting a Zeiss 35mm 1.4 (@ 5.6). That should be in the handful of sharpest lenses out there. I’m use to working with 16 mpx raws in LR. LR seemed to handle the 42mpx pretty well.
The 25k ISO seems useful for low light parties, concerts, etc. Heavy cropping? No. Full frame? Beats no picture 🙂
The Raw files are so encouraging. Great DR, color and sharpness. The files at ISO 6400 are significantly cleaner than my a7 at ISO 2000. I think they might have actually done the impossible… a 42mp sensor with legitimate low light capability. Can’t wait till mine arrives!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUWw1Y4n9Ho&feature=youtu.be
Interview with Sony CEO about forthcoming A7III
Glad to hear some people have already got their cameras, I preordered mine from Sony Finland in June as soon as it was possible. For a long time the shipping was scheduled for today but a week ago I got mail from Sony saying it has been postponed to mid August (17th).. 🙁
rough and ready…didn’t get much time to play this evening…but should give you an idea …will post a better one over the weekend (all 100% crops SOOC) : https://flic.kr/p/vL1qJB
Jon
http://www.jonroberts.co.uk