I just got this from two SAR readers:
Reader_1: Just received notification that the Batis 85mm lens that I ordered from B&H shipped today on UPS. My card was charged. I ordered the lens in the first hour after I read of its preorder status on this sight. Thank you!
Reader_2: Just letting you know the Batis 25mm lens is shipping from B&H – mine shipped yesterday and is arriving on Thursday. It’s seems to be more of a limited supply.
At last! And also first German stores have the [shoplink 38631 ebay]Batis in Stock (on eBay here)[/shoplink]. And if you want the Loxia lenses than know their are in Stock at KenmoreCamera: [shoplink 38621 ebay]35mm Loxia (Click here)[/shoplink] and [shoplink 38622 ebay]50mm Loxia (Click here)[/shoplink].
And here are some more Batis lens tests and image samples:
Zeiss Batis 25mm first impressions at ThePhoBlographer:
So far, we’re very impressed with the image quality from the Zeiss Batis 25mm f2 lens. Then again, we didn’t have any doubts. What will be the deciding factor is how it is in manual use and how the display rendering works out in the long run. For news videographers, it may be a nice option, but otherwise it’s a very new concept that is a bit alien to us.
Mirrorlessons tested the 85mm Batis and writes:
The optical quality is what you’d expect: excellent sharpness, beautiful bokeh, and a fast and silent autofocus mechanism.
Eggry:
I’d like to share you some sample and test shot of Batis 85.8 from Korea. In Korea, Zeiss Batis 85.8 is already released, it would be useful information for westerners: http://eggy.egloos.com/4090510. This is my blog posting of Batis 85.8 test against Samyang/Rokinon 85.4. DOF, Close range resolution, near infinity range resolution, Distortion tested.
I think distortion is the most interesting part because it has really huge distortion for 85. Lense profile is not supported in Lightroom yet, so you need to endure it if you shoot RAW.
I took some sample photos too. followings are some samples from others.
http://www.popco.net=31807
http://www.popco.net=31761
http://www.popco.net=31758
http://www.popco.net=31834
http://www.popco.net=31732
Photos taken with the Zeiss Batis 2/25 and the Sony A7R & A7S on Flickr.
Zeiss Batis store links:
Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 lens in US at Adorama, Bhphoto. In Eu at Amazon DE, WexUK. In Asia at Digitalrev.
Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2.0 lens at Adorama, Bhphoto. In EU at Amazon DE, WexUK. In Asia at Digitalrev.
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Mine got shipped today in Germany. Looking forward to compare to my 85/1.8g.
Where did you ordered the lens? Can`t find the 85mm on stock
in germany.
My Batis 25 arrived today from Adorama. I ordered in the first hour of seeing it on this site in the a.m. EST. I also oredered the 85. Has not shipped yet.
I ordered sometime afterwards, but was assured by the guy in the trade-in department that because they didn’t have too many backorders, that I should be able to get in on the first wave. Obviously that’s not happening. I just called Adorama as well, and the operator there refused to give me any information at all.
I also preordered from Adorama and asked about it, but I haven’t heard anything yet! It’s good to know that (allegedly) the backorders aren’t too long!
Would any owners of these lenses care to offer some comments on the manual focusing experience?
I had a 32mm Touit and was, to put it politely, frustrated with the experience. Manual focusing on that was more a matter of random chance than it was of consistency. I understand that this is somewhat part and parcel of focus by wire but trying to make fine adjustments on the Touit was an exercise in wishful thinking. I have a suspicion that theses lenses won’t be any better but would appreciate if someone would comment on the experience of making fine adjustments.
In addition, when you turn the focus ring do you experience vibrations from the focusing mechanism? This was an aspect of the Touit that was quite noticeable both tactilely and aurally. I recall that Zeiss stated that the focusing mechanism is different from that of the Touit and is suitable for video, and by implication silent and smooth; but this claim is coming from the mouth of a product and program manager so I’ll take this claim with the requisite pinch of salt.
Also, regarding the rubber focus ring, the Touit I had would become sticky and turn into a dust magnet in no short order. Is this much the same on these lenses?
Thanks in advance.
P.S. I will probably attract scoffs for this but I am finding myself attracted to the Sony-Zeiss offerings over these “real” Zeiss offerings and would prefer to wait for a Sony-Zeiss 15mm and 25mm with DDSSM. I find that the DDSSM of my 35mm f1.4 and 90mm f2.8 make them as pleasing to use in manual focus as the Loxia range, even though the 35mm has no hard stops. This is in stark comparison with my first hand experiences of what it is like to manual focus with the 55 f1.8, 24-70 f4 and 16-35 f4, which I would have to say were atrocious.
actually other than the 85mm Batis, I too am more drawn to the sony-zeiss lenses. I enjoy their rendering, particularly the 35mm/2.8 and 55/1.8.
I wouldn’t consider these Batis lenses as “real” Zeiss lenses, at least not more than the Sony Zeiss lenses. They are designed by Tamron and manufactured in Japan. I don’t expect them to be wildly different from the 55/1.8. In fact, I think the decision to call it Zeiss Batis rather than Sony Zeiss was made in a boardroom long after these lenses were designed.
BatisMan vs SummicronMan… In theaters soon.
Notice how Batman’s new costume has bright light eyes… hmmmm
SuperMan’s sportin’ some very sharp new tards… hmmmm
Methinks this no coincidence.
I continue to enjoy the rendering I have seen from the 85mm Batis, but for some reason the 25mm Batis doesn’t seem to capture my attention. I do hope to get the 85mm when my a7rII ships. That is if it ships before I have to leave, otherwise, someone else will get his/her copy a little sooner.
In conclusion regards the 85mm 1.8 Mirrorlessons says the following, which is just not true, or rather it is extremely misleading.
”Giving you advice about this lens is quite easy: for now, it is the only native portrait lens for the Sony full-frame system that has autofocus and optical stabilisation.”
They also review the sublime 90mm 2.8 G from Sony.
http://www.mirrorlessons.com/2015/07/14/getting-in-close-the-sony-fe-90mm-f2-8-macro-review/
I don’t know how these ideas are formed exactly because going by the basic use of lenses, a portrait lens might be a medium tele, and one that in BOTH cases of 85mm and 90mm get in close to subject for reframing. Without getting into the absurdity of it too much because it is in fact absurd unfortunately, the 90mm allows you to get in CLOSER, and is therefore MORE portraity if anything!
The matter of whether the 85mm is more a standard portrait length or for good reason is complex and I think the results from each speak for themselves regards this already false mutual exclusion of the 85mm 1.8 as THE portrait lens and thus the 90mm with macro NOT even being a considered option. I only considered addressing these matters for a while, and later decided against it as I want to focus on my photography rather than educate, but at some point It seems I should address all of it, and perhaps even with the manufacturers or something, as in, all those involved in photography :I
Its really cringeworthy seeing the great potential bathed in a lurid light all the time, like it might just tip into surreal or something at any time and our important system go belly up into consumer fantasy.
…whoa! Who spoilt your coffee with the oral diarrhea bug this morning??? Just noticed all this nonsensical verbosity all over SAR from you. Bro, STFU, please.
Politics. Photography:
‘The Argus II retinal implant that he received last month at Manchester Royal Eye Hospital in a four-hour procedure has already been successfully used worldwide on more than 130 patients with the rare eye disease retinitis pigmentosa (RP). However those patients, unlike Mr Flynn, had no peripheral vision.
Developed by Second Sight Medical Products, it works by converting video images captured by a miniature camera housed in the patient’s glasses into a series of small electrical pulses that are transmitted wirelessly to electrodes on the surface of the retina.
These pulses stimulate the retina’s remaining cells resulting in the corresponding perception of patterns of light in the brain
The patient then learns to interpret these visual patterns to regain some visual function.
Mr Flynn’s system was turned on for the first time on July 1 and tests showed that he could make out the outline of people and objects even with his eyes closed.’
Sourced from:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bionic-eye-therapy-total-success-visually-impaired-manchester-194552630.html#PBJT62W
Please will not work sadly, the master keeps coming back and back and back and if you question to much it gets personal rather than washy techincial lol. Admin please save use again!
You are either spamming this site to closure or you seriously have to much time on your hands and no time for your camera. What ever the reason it is sad and please do not attempt to tell me your personal business is going to suffer or your personal life. Master you need to stop spamming this site with your long posts please.
I’m not sure why you alie your real self with the non identities- not interested in photography, though in fact I was referring to this highly relevant new technology:
http://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/2627-redshark-update-sekonic-c700r-and-measuring-colour-temperature-of-practical-lights
Not more than two year old device and increasingly relevant to photography and video. I have a simpler way to do it perhaps using lowest level of technology, as in no electronics etc…I’m curious about one aspect and instead of research it, I will mostly have to keep my freedom of speech against politicals instead.
In conclusion regards the 85mm 1.8 Mirrorlessons says the following, which is just not true, or rather it is extremely misleading.
”Giving you advice about this lens is quite easy: for now, it is the only native portrait lens for the Sony full-frame system that has autofocus and optical stabilisation.”
They also review the sublime 90mm 2.8 G from Sony.
http://www.mirrorlessons.com/2…
I don’t know how these ideas are formed exactly because going by the basic use of lenses, a portrait lens might be a medium tele, and one that in BOTH cases of 85mm and 90mm get in close to subject for reframing. Without getting into the absurdity of it too much because it is in fact absurd unfortunately, the 90mm allows you to get in CLOSER, and is therefore MORE portraity if anything!
The matter of whether the 85mm is more a standard portrait length or for good reason is complex and I think the results from each speak for themselves regards this already false mutual exclusion of the 85mm 1.8 as THE portrait lens and thus the 90mm with macro NOT even being a considered option. I only considered addressing these matters for a while, and later decided against it as I want to focus on my photography rather than educate, but at some point It seems I should address all of it, and perhaps even with the manufacturers or something, as in, all those involved in photography :I
Its really cringeworthy seeing the great potential bathed in a lurid light all the time, like it might just tip into surreal or something at any time and our important system go belly up into consumer fantasy.
Will a 135mm even at f/2 be considered a portrait lens…noooo, that will have to be sport or something lol XD
If its just the speed and not the focal length making the designation, and 2.8 is deemed too slow even though in this excluded lens its perfect at that aperture and perhaps smoother rendering at its most open there but still with usable depth of field, then portrait would just mean fast lens essentially. That’s not true though is it. In fact, you could forget the 70-200mm 2.8!!! on that basis, even with that range of portraity if not exactly complete focal lengths! You know, 70-200mm may not even BE a portrait lens afterall, in fact I MAY BE RIGHT, and the ONLY portrait lens, the one they throw to the portraitist and general shooters inclined to highest quality and function, and whom must tender them significantly in earnings in fact get impoverished with only ONE designation, one I don’t even want or believe in! 🙁 the fast 85mm, so lets buck a trend, and if the 90mm is as good as it looks, reward Sony by buying that one, and at once prove them right for giving it to us!
Whats more, they may release a 100mm 2/2.8 like it!!!!! Both obviously portrait potentiated…
Subject description is very important now we have such grand image resolutions.
The problem is making it still render naturally and organically and purely, and Sony did it with the 90mm 2.8 G perfectly! First time…Its a pity no one will compare them objectively now the 90mm is not considered fit for purpose already :I
Distorted lines in the context of my near subject portraits, or even tableau shots, just wouldn’t do either surely, not with respect to such high quality image otherwise, a sort of anachronism. Adding something else to the apparently intended portrait shooting work flow that you could most do without…
(The above post was deleted, evidently for the above person, who is clearly not to be considered a photographer, whatever their arbitrary ‘qualifications’ to the contrary: and who should clearly take their site down on the same basis)
If i’m the only photographer who understands photography I have some degree of freedom of speech over those people with their politics who do indeed cause such as this and significantly worse. Real photographers, that’s our first warning and we should heed it and consider the situation as it is now regards these heathens.
FOCUS CAMERA also had some in stock. Mine is arriving tomorrow and I’ll post my impressions. (I currently own the Sigma 1.4 A-Amount EX HSM, Rokinon 85mm 1.4 manual lens, Nikon 85mm 1.8, and a Soligor 85mm-135mm F4 and this will be THE PORTRAIT LENS in my collection).
Attached are some samples.
http://photo.yodobashi.com/gear/sony/lens/czbatis8518.html
If one falls of the truck, do I get to keep it?
They will come off in twos so my address is ……… lol
Foto Mundus for me. Said they received a batch of lenses and sent them to the people who preordered.
I came across a review on Sony Alpha Forums about Berger-Bros and was impressed by the reviewers high praise of the company. I had been searching for a hard to find the Zeiss Batis 85mm and was running into dead ends everywhere I looked. No store had one in stock, and no one could tell me when it was expected to be available. One company even sent me two emails the same day with conflicting information. Needless to say, waiting 4-6 months was not something I wanted to do. I decided to give Berger Bros a call and see what information they had if any. I found that not only did they have the lens I sought, but they would get it to me right away. The best part was the owner of the company returned my original inquiry and processed my order, answered my questions, and was a great guy. In the recent years, I have moved to predominantly online shopping except for a few niche hobby items. Berger Bros gives me the best of both worlds, Online presence, with that brick and mortar customer service that you just do not get with online only. I highly recommend you contact them, ask for Brad. The best part of our conversation was when I asked him if he would set up a password for his online shop for me, he laughed and said “of course, but I am always your password, just call me here is my cell number if you ever need anything.” My experience with them was simply outstanding.