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This is from an anonymous source. Rarely these kind of rumors turns out to be correct. But I thought the specs look so good you may tell me if you would really buy such a camera! This is what the source said:
Still ironing out the last kinks is needed, but it is likely to be announced soon. A possible date would be aug/sep.
• The specifications showcase
• Upgrade of the widely famed APS-C alpha6000
• Newly developed 24MP sensor featuring backside illumination for increased sensitivity.
• In sensor HDR function including video for dynamic range up to 15.5EVs
• 196 phase detect auto focus points
• Blazing 16fps continuous autofocus burst rate
• Unlimited 4k video recording
• Refined pop out XGA OLED Tru-Finder
• 180 degree tilting 2.36M Dot LCD monitor
• Weather-Resistant Magnesium Alloy BodyBy default the Camera will come with a new and improved Kit lens featuring 16-50mm F2.4-3.6
The camera set will be targeted to the professional consumer demanding uncompromised image quality in a small body. The target retail price will be set at1499$
Sounds good…if true!
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238 Responses
The pop-out viewfinder seems very unlikely to me on a camera costing $1499. However, a new higher end kit lens would be very welcome.
No IBIS = no $1500
a7000 should be ~$1000, and the mentioned improvements (without IBIS) are not enough for $1500
maybe it will be just a prestige version, and there would be a plastic-bodied $700 camera as a5100 replacement with same specs
“pop out Tru-Finder”?
I hope not
This will probably be my next camera (although only had a6000 for 6 monthes). The new kit lens sounds great though.
$1500?!? Me thinks they’re going to sell a lot of a6000s after this.
lol yeah… I’ll get the a7ii instead then…
Sure the better idea. Even if the predicted price of 1500 USD includes the kit lens. Sony is turning the price screw too strong. A7RII at 3500 Euro indicates the same high price strategy. I am really not amuzed about this politics. So I will just continue with the great Sony cameras I bought before at more reasonable prices.
I’m starting to think the A7RII was priced to high. 2800.00 sounds more appropriate. I’m sure it’ll be there soon enough.
Remember how expensive the NEX-7 was?
$1200 when there were only a few mirrorless cameras and none of them had APS-C sensor
I think this one is a different class of camera. Different pricing.
A6100 is probably going to be the successor to A6000.
if the new kit lens is really 16-50mm F2.4-3.6, it will certainly be much bigger than current 16-50mm! don’t dream too much! i would prefer an improved version in term of image quality, but same size, so with probably same caracteristics.
kit lens aperture is kinda fishy too F2.4 to 3.6 ? what lol
What is a Pop-out Tru-finder? Is it like the GX7/GX8 or like the RX100 MK4?
Looks fake: “Unlimited 4k video recording” – For duty reasons Europe, camera video recording is limited to 29min59secs to avoid classification as video cam. This would be valid for the a7000 as for any other Sony or non-Sony cam.
180 degree tilting 2.36M Dot LCD monitor
That sound really good to me. I really want “retina” like camera displays.
if it’s a joke, i like it :D….
I assume “unlimited 4k” means limited to 29:59 for some archaic European law.
This reeks FAKE all over it.
180 degree tilting screen plus viewfinder don’t mix.
There won’t be unlimited video on a camera in this class because of European tax classification.
Well, it could be turnable to the side like Canons. But I also don’t believe it. F2.4-F3.6 also sounds highly unusual for the kit lens.
Yeah, I can’t imagine that lens happening as a kit lens.
why not? A77 was typically bundled with 16-50/2.8 kit lens
Yeah, but a variable aperture 2.4-3.6 is really… strange…
Also, as others have commented, the combination of a large wide-aperture prime on a supercompact body would be a bit strange.
Would you prefer they made it f/3.6 across all the range, or even f/4 ?
these 2.4-3.6 is very like Fujifilm’s 2.8-4 and it’s a kit lens, not large at all.
and it’s not supercompact… some small sensored cameras are smaller than a6000 even having 30x zoom.
16-70/2.8 would be great :p
Not far from the F2.8-F4 Fuji kit lens. Possible
I’ve never seen an f2.4 prime at 16mm, let alone a zoom that starts there, let alone a kit lens.
Way too many highly suspicious elements in this rumor to be believed.
Why? Fuji has a similar lens.
He did say pop up viewfinder, so it could work (think RX100 III/IV ).
Can we honestly believe the flagship APS-C camera from Sony will have a popup viewfinder like the RX100m3?
why not ? RX100III / IV is also a flgship in it’s class
why not? The lcd screen could flip to the bottom like the sony a55 or to the side…
Plus the same old mistake: an even number of AF points.
If it’s high end model with “uncompromised image quality in a small body”, $1500 is ok for me. But I expect A7000 to also have front and back command wheels (like new A7x), a few direct Fn buttons (not just 1 like in A6000), -2EV AF, and EVF with higher magnification. I do not care for 4K, even for IBIS to keep small body size.
And what I really really WANT is 16mm f/1.8 ZA prime! This one with 24/1.8, 32/1.8, 55/1.8 and 12/2.8 would be perfect set.
No IBIS is not for A7000, an high end camera, but for A6100, the upgraded A6000
I mentioned what upgrates are more important for me than IBIS – each of these feature is more important than IBIS. With clean 3200/6400iso and good DR I do not need IBIS that also eats power very fast. AF in low light performance, very good EVF and DR, control with dirrect buttons and dials matter more and stay above IBIS and 4K for me. High end does not mean IBIS.
I prefer the Tri-Navi style, and I hope they achieve -4ev this should be the priority because it is the only thing that DSLR has left.
The pop-out EVF makes sense due to the 180 degree tilting LCD. I don’t mind pop-out EVF as long as it doesn’t require an extra pull like the RX100 iii.
leave the pop-up viewfinder for RX1 mark II.
Don’t care about the camera specs, just give me that fast normal zoom! 😀
Better keep the A6000 LCB monitor, remove the HDR 15,5EVs feature, remove the 16fps (10 fps is enough) and add the IBIS on theses specs of A7000.
IMHO, everything which can make A7000 look like a APS-C version of A7R II will be the ultimate choice, the rest is just fanboys features
No IBIS at $1500 = useless overpriced camera
No IBIS at all even at 1000$ means APS-C is nolonger priority for Sony.
We can’t claim to build an high-end camera if we don’t put all features into it
Why not make that the a6100
yes in A6100 but not as high-end camera
maybe it’s like 18-55 in size.
Still no touchscreen?! What year is it again? 2005? And then 1500$ is way too much when the Samsung NX500 is going to sell for almost 1000 less by the time the A7000 materializes, even with it’s flaws, the Samsung is still a better deal.
Everything should have a touchscreen by now. If you don’t want to use it, then don’t, or turn it off but this “clickidy-clack” with the buttons on my Nikon D5100 to zoom in and out of pictures or move across the frame is highly annoying and slow. A touchscreen operated camera would also be silent for these kind of operations and not disturb anyone plus a lot faster.
I also believe, that every new camera which comes out this year (above a certain price point or aimed at certain buyer’s groups) should come with 4k. It’s 2015 for good’s sake and not the year Full HD became mainstream with consumer electronics…
I myself refuse to buy any new camera without 4k. As easy as that..
My top priorities for the A7000 are:
1. 4k! 4k! 4k!
2. 180° screen for selfies, recording myself
3. Touchscreen
Anything else would be nice, but I don’t really care. I could maybe live without a touchscreen if number 1 and 2 are there. And the price should be below 1000$, or else people will just buy one of the Sony FF cameras in the same price range.
180° tilting screen (we don’t buy a $1500 camera to take a selfie, your smartphone will be enough, no need to increase the final price for that) and touchscreen is really optionnal but more AF points than 196 are required.
A smartphone is not enough with their bad 2MP front cameras and no zoom. Also, the optical quality is a lot worse as well as the resolution.
Did it ever occur to you, that just because it is a 1500$ camera it can also be used to have some fun with it and create memories?
Imagine you have a kid or a little nephew and you want to take selfies or group shots with them. How do you do that without being able to see yourself?
Right, you don’t.
So you’re basically implying that just because you can’t see a valid usage case, everybody else shouldn’t as well and stick with their pathetic cell phone front cameras?
Why does a professional camera and some selfie fun need to be mutually exclusive? I don’t get it.
If my Nikon D5100 with it’s sideways 180° screen wouldn’t be so heavy and the autofocus in liveview barely useable, I would selfie the heck out of it.
Better have a 16MP selfie with a real camera than a 2MP one with my smartphone.
Again, that’s not the target market for a $1500 camera. Look at the A5000. It already has the 180° articulating screen — more than enough camera for your needs.
The A5100 is not an option. I need a viewfinder and it has none, plus no 4k and no real touchscreen and no hot shoe. What’s the use of a “touchscreen” when you can only select a focus point and trigger the shot? Wasted potential.
your feature will increase the final price as i said below for a casual use so my reply is still No thank you!!!…. If they have to remove a feature to keep price not too high, then touchscreen and 180 tilting screen are the chosen ones
Look at the DxO One camera that plugs in to iPhone, or the Sony lens cameras that are controlled by iPhone/Android — perfect for you.
gorllapod + timer
Agreed. With my A99/A77, for example, I do plenty of professional work with it, but sometimes I also get a self-portrait with my kids. This idea that these modalities have to be completely mutually exclusive is ridiculous.
The price indicated at 1.500 $ sounds reasonable because logically it needs to be more expensive as the RX100IV or the RX10II due to its positioning.
If it comes NEX/ alike I could consider a buy. 🙂
yes but with IBIS…
sad thing is at 1500$ its still cheaper than the RX10II isn’t it ?
Your logics is correct, Sony’s price politics starts getting crazy.
Nope, The original RX10 was released at 1299$ and the a6000 was released (later) at 699$, I believe (body only). Stands to reason that the a7000 could be a little more expensive than the original a6000 price, but should be a sub-1000$ body.
Selfies, really? I personally could care less about touchscreens, not saying that some people don’t like them, but if the only differentiation between two cameras were touchscreen or dedicated mechanical controls, I’d go with manual controls every time.
Why not offer both? Can’t be too hard.
Because to make an effective touch screen, the screen size would need to increase, meaning less buttons/tactile controls by design. There’s only so much room to work with on the back of a camera body.
How do you figure? M43 has more models than anyone with touchscreens. They certainly do not decrease space for other useful controls. The screen size does not have to increase.
yes but Sony will not add the touchscreen for free :p…. Yet to have a APS-C version of A7R II at 1500$ will be difficult but if they add touchscreen, the camera will surely cost more than 1700$
Yes, and ergonomics is one of the primary reasons so many pros still choose full sized DSLRs over M43 cameras. The tiny controls can be tough to navigate.
Touch screen usability is tough on a 3″ screen when the first joint of my thumb is already 1″. Remember, we would be operating this with our thumbs mostly as our hand will be holding the camera by the grip with the other potentially supporting the lens.
Just because touchscreen interface is the standard for phones doesn’t mean it’s the right interface for every device. I’m sure we will see a more advance touch screen interface in future A5XXX series cameras and the like as the screen already takes up most of the back and it makes sense for the type of photos captured with such cameras.
On full sized SLT cameras and such, however, NO THANKS!
all e-mount aps-c cameras have same screen size, touchscreen or not
+1
Buttons provide a tactile response and feel we can memorize by touch — allowing us to operate without removing our eyes from the viewfinder. As a professional photographer, the last thing I’d ever want is a touch screen interface on my camera.
LOL maybe we could use the nose with the touchscreen :p to not remove the eyes from viewfinder
I know you’re joking, but in all seriousness, anything that complicates taking a photo, and distracts our focus from the moment is a bad thing.
i agree with you :D…that s why i said it. I am against touchscreen and 180° tilting screen for the useless and inconvenience of these features
But I wouldn’t call the 180° tilting screen useless. Both my A99 & A77II have articulating screens that can tilt 180° and it’s very useful for getting tricky angles or when you have to shoot yourself with your client at the end of a shoot.
Really? Have you used a decent touchscreen. I’d chalk it up to the second best innovation in camera design since adding tilt screens. You’re giving the camera a direct command. All the fancy algorithms, zone spot focusing…etc. They still can’t “touch” the precision a touchscreen is capable of. They keep getting better as well!
I’m all for it because I’ve seen what they can do. You can also eliminate a lot of focusing and re-composing which wastes an incredible amount of time.
For 1500$ i dont think they will include all listed features + IBIS. Then better remove touchscreen than IBIS which is IMHO far more useful as prosumer camera than touchscreen… to keep a decent price
Touchscreen cameras like the E-PL6 sell for $299 new. There is no added cost, touchscreens are just as cheap as regular screens. The problem is Sony doesn’t have the software resources to compete with a good touchscreen GUI like Leica T, or Panasonic.
Then they will charge any R&D to get one;) or they could adapt the one from other manufacturer?
Judging by the software in their current cameras, they should just start over. They can’t get software from other manufacturers because their cameras are too feature intense, and always are in beta, negating the usefulness of a common GUI.
Yes because fat human fingers touching a 3 inch screen is so precise. I wouldn’t trust a touch screen to refine critical focus down to the eyes with a large aperture prime.
There’s a reason smartphones need autocorrect.
What’s all this jazz about fat fingers? All I know is it works. I’m not exactly skinny here.
Just turn it off then?
Also waiting for touch screen in full frame. Keep using my A7 till then..
Touch screens make more sense at the lower price points, as you’re targeting consumers who are used to shooting with smartphones and what-not.
At $1,500, this is a prosumer grade camera. Touch screens offer little value to the type of shooting that professionals do, as touch screens don’t offer the speed and precision that physical wheels and buttons do. For professionals, the ability to change settings easily via the viewfinder is a greater priority, as you often have to compose shots very quickly….and are required to spend less time messing with the camera, and more time engaging in whatever gig you’re hired to shoot. This is where touch screens become counter productive, as you cannot use touch screens without taking your eyes off of your subject and looking down at the touch screen. Touch screens would unnecessarily add to the cost of this camera, as its a feature that doesn’t suit the needs of its target consumers.
Beyond that, the opportunity to accidentally change your settings while shooting is much greater with a touch screen. It’s enough of an issue to put locks on control wheels so you don’t accidentally bump a wheel and change your settings. A touch screen would compound the issue significantly.
Touch screen is invaluable when navigating the menu system.
Perhaps. But with the ability map so many functions to custom buttons, how often do you do that?
It’s a nice to have, IMO, but not a deal killer….particularly if it would add to the cost of the camera.
How often do you format a card?
So touch screens are invaluable because they make it so much easier to…..format a card?
Agreed. I could care less about a touchscreen, I do everything through the finder. And I’m not a pro.
Sorry to mention this:
Your statement is TOTAL BULLSHIT !!!
1. If you don’t want use touchscreen, switch it off.
2. Especially for expensive cameras, added costs is only a little percentage.
3. All this “a pro needs not”… all BS!
You can take every technical evolution and claim it is only convenience for consumers, pro’s don’t need it.
Photoshop – for consumers only – a “pro” can edit RAW-files in hex-code.
Computer-mouse: for consumers only – a “pro” is more accurate with keyboard.
Digital cameras: for consumers only – a “pro” can develop film by himself.
If your thinking defines a “pro”, that means a “pro” is a stupid dumbass.
lol who pee’d in your cornflakes this morning? forget your meds this morning?
Not saying its not nice to have, only saying its not a deal killer as many are claiming, as its not a feature that the typical consumer of a $1,500 camera necessarily needs. There’s a reason that this is a feature thats excluded in just about every prosumer camera out there.
Touch screens offer little value to the compositional process, as most serious shooters rely more heavily on tactile buttons and knobs. I’d rather the incremental cost, however insignificant it might be, be allocated elsewhere.
Touchscreen is more important than you think.
If you don’t use it right know it is obvious that you are not knowing what advantages it brings. You need the power of imagination, using your brain to think about what benefits it can give to you. If you can’t do that, you don’t find any advantages of coarse.
It’s like Steve Jobs said: A lot of times, people don’t know what they want until you show it to them.
This “a pro does not need that stuff” list is so long right now – not only in photography.
Stuff like movie-mode and tilt-screen was not for any use for any “pro” until they got it.
In general for me it appears, that this so called “pros” tend to defend onself against all convenience features – especially if this convenience is stuff is already existing for consumers. It’s like drawing a line to show “I can do my work the hard way – because I AM A PRO and you not”. Or some “pros” are afraid that some amateurs can do similar work if convenience features are assisting.
It’s mid 2015 – each crappy smartphone has a proper working touchscreen. Don’t tell me the production cost will raise more than a few dollars. There is no reason not to add touchscreen to every camera – especially for an expensive model with a small body-size.
If you were the holder of a taxi-company and you want to buy 10 more cabs, would you generally equip each of them with a navigation-systems or not? For sure there are some “pros” amongst the taxi drivers, insisting not to have it because they know the city.
(Same game again – with navi any student taxi driver can do the work, without navi only the “pros” can do the job)
Are you a “pro”?
Ok Mr. Visionary. Exactly what are the advantages of using a touch screen vs tactile buttons and wheels when composing and taking a photo?
I moonlight as a wedding photographer and am paid to take photos, which by definition, makes me a professional…albeit a part time one. When shooting a wedding, you’re dealing with fast moving events, where the lighting conditions are constantly changing. As such ability to compose a shot quickly via the viewfinder is critical to the job. Any time spent with your eyes off the viewfinder and messing with the camera poses a risk of missing a key moment. Try explaining to a bride that you missed the first kiss because you pulled the camera away from your face to adjust the aperture via the touch screen.
The same goes for sports, or even portrait sessions, where your subject can lose patience with you if you constantly have to disengage from them to mess with your camera.
If you have some magical method of adjusting aperture, ISO, shutter speed, AF mode, focus point, exposure compensation, all via the viewfinder, with a touch screen interface, I’m all ears. Otherwise the whole idea that a prosumer body is somehow crippled because it lacks a touch screen lacks any credibility. Sure its nice to have, but its hardly a critical feature for the target market of a $1,500 prosumer camera, and its omission isn’t as damning as you make it out to be.
Hello Mr narrowminded-“pro”,
First of all I don’t believe you that your eyes are 8 hours on EVF during a wedding without taking it off.
Main thing is, you have to check your shots on screen. Was everything in focus? What about the lighting? Did the bouncing flash cause some unpleasant shadows?
That gives you the answer if you have to re-take the picure somehow of if you have to change same settings for your next shot.
Don’t tell me you are not doing that.
Exactly for that a touchscreen allows you so much quicker browsing through your pictures than pressing buttons. Just a gesture to zoom in at any position and swipe to the next picutre.
If you want change aperture, ISO, shutter-speed, EV, modes and the like with buttons only and having touchscreen disabled for preventing “missclicks” – you are welcome. Todays cameras have software! It allows you to do things like that. It allows you using touchscreen during play-mode but prevents you using touchscreen in record mode. And if the first version only alllows touchscreen completely on or off only, firmware-updates can refine this. But for now it’s time for Sony to start with touchscreen in EVERY model! Even uninnovative Canon started already with touchscreen DSLRs. And the number of models is getting more and more.
You presented touch screen as some sort of paradigm shifting technology that will improve photography, and the only advantage you could come up with is to review pictures more intuitively? I get that its a nice feature to have, but unless it adds real value to the process of taking a photo or the actual photos themselves, touch screens fall into the category of “nice to have, but not critical” for a $1,500 prosumer camera. Again, there’s no credibility to the idea that the a7000 certainly is crippled without a touch screen.
There isn’t a pro/prosumer body out there that has a touch screen, because it isn’t a critical/important feature. Even when it comes to Canon’s DSLR’s….only their entry level rebel DSLR’s and the EOS-M (which I happen to own BTW) have a touch screen. The recently released 7DII and 5DS/R cameras do not.
And when you’re shooting an event, no you don’t always have time to review photos in the midst of the event, touch screen or not….because again, disengaging to check photos poses a risk of missing a key moment. That’s where you trust your equipment and technique well enough to know you’re composing the shots properly without constantly checking them in the midst of a shoot
i.e., out of focus shots are a technique issue. If you can’t get the focus right the first time, that’s a technique issue you need to correct before you shoot for money because you don’t always have second chances in real live shooting. Same with bounce flash or lighting in general…you should intuitively know how a scene will be lit without constantly having to check after each shot. Quick high level checks that the exposure is on point are fine, but you should intuitively know how the surrounding surfaces will affect the direction bounced flash will hit your subject and where the corresponding shadows will fall without having to zoom into a photo.
“…should intuitively know how…”without the need for checking! Yes – this sounds like a “pro”.
BTW: 70D is nor an entry level nor the highest APS-C model. It is inbetween – I would categorize it as prosumer.
Samsung NX1 is considered to be the 7Dmk2 challenger – touchscreen.
It’s just a matter of time – but the earlier a company starts, the better.
The kit-lense sounds interessting, but still no word about IBIS… Without that it wont matter to me 😀 Unlimited 4k as i thought.
All sounds somewhat plausible except for the DOA price. That will be $999 U.S., and $1149 kit. 🙂
Where’s the IBIS?
1500 is too high. New lens sounds odd but faster is good. What no IBIS? It will easily beat that obese GX8 in any case
Yeah, they should make at least something similar to GX8.
I won’t buy another Sony camera until it has touchscreen. Ok, maybe the A7RII- but that’s it!
and after having a Sony camcorder with a touch screen I know I wouldn’t buy any camera with a touch screen… they suck… even when implemented with capacitive technology as I’ve tried a camera that had it and while it was better than what I had used from Sony it still sucked… I want button and knobs that I won’t accidently touch when handling the camera.
Yeah, if it’s true, I’d be interested. But Sony need to show more of a commitment to it’s APS-C lens line to really have me believing…
Needs IBIS, though.
Poor idiot who made up this rumor should have known that no new 16-50 is at works, especially f2.4-3.6 LOL. Also all this crap about weatherproofing and pop-up EVF – is yet another crap LOL. We all know it’s not the case with aps-c lineup.
Unlimited 4K is another hint that this is all some poor fantasy of an idiot who is not tech savvy with cameras.
I know, it’s crazy right. Next you’re going to tell me someone is going to put something insane like a 42 megapixel backside illuminated full frame sensor with 5-axis in-body stabilization, 400 phase detect AF points and phase detect autofocus with Canon lenses into a compact mirrorless body with 4K internal recording. Insane, right?
Then you’ll tell me that someone’s going to make a 28 megapixel BSI APS-C camera with 15 fps continuous shooting and full AF during that, plus image analytics that can fire the shutter when an object crosses a specified plane in the image, or when someone jumps, and also has 4K with h.265 encoding and pair it with a 16-50mm f/2-2.8 kit lens. Crazy, right?
Oh wait…both those cameras exist.
To be fair, 30min. for 4k sounds more likely.
and they’ll never give up X-AVCS for H.625.
Of course Sony can make a dream APS-C camera, but they aren’t because they are going all out on their FF lines and APS-C is not a priority, it’s a marketing decision. The a7r ii is feature filled because it is their current flagship, why wouldn’t it be? The Samsung NX1 is a feature filled APS-C camera because Samsung does not have a higher FF line. Sony probably thinks there’s too much competition with Fuji and m43 to put in that much resources into APS-C, when they can just put the resources towards FF, where it’s more profitable because there is no other FF mirrorless line to compete with them.
However, the comment I was replying to implied that these things weren’t technically feasible, as these specs are simply the “fantasy of an idiot who is not tech savvy with cameras.” I was indicating that we’ve been surprised before with insane specs in cameras.
But it won’t be made regardless, so I don’t see what difference that makes.
I thought unless you were in camcorder territory Sony pretty much limited your video to 5 minutes or 19 minutes depending on the camera because of heating.. Not sure how a camera the size of a a7000 could escape that limitation… makes me think it is more a wish list than anything else.
It seems like you are as far from photography as I am from opera. Let me open your eyes and educate you. From all the silly things you wrote about 2 existing cameras A7RII and NX1 you got so many things wrong.
1. Lenses. 16-50 f2-2.8 is a huge and fast lens Samsung did for it’s flagship camera. Sony’s priority in aps-c is portability. No ones going to make any 16-50 let alone weird f2.4-3.6 aperture. Makes no sense. Unlike Samsung’s 16-50. Moreover aps-c lens lineup is put on hold for long time now.
2. 4K time limit – it’s well known that Sony has to put at least 29min limit to it simply due to avoid its product falling under camcorder venue. It’s taxation and marketing, but trust me when I hear someone say unlimited video on Sony aps-c – it shows right away they have no idea what they are talking about.
3. You got me all wrong. I wasn’t saying these things are impossible. Oh, no. These specs in fact are nothing special and somewhat outdated already. I was LOLing because I can see that these specs are composed so poorly and without basic knowledge of Sony’s current situation in APS-C and in camera market currently, that its clear that whoever made it up – was an idiot (from Latin – lacking knowledge).
Also, with regard to your so called “impossible” specs of A7RII and NX1 and you implying that it “isn’t possible” and then telling me in a surprising way “oh no they are made actually!”. LOL – tell you what – none of that was surprising to me and in fact we on Sony forums at FM, DPR and one more forum unknown to you were expecting all this specs long time ago and in fact we were more surprised by price that Sony put (a bit high) for this specs as they don’t really are “that impossible”.
Yup, I’m really far from photography…what with the 20 cameras and 50 lenses I’ve reviewed, plus many more that I have owned for my personal shooting. I’m quite familiar with current mirrorless gear (not that gear makes the photographer…but I think I’m a pretty decent shooter as well). I wasn’t implying that any of these were impossible…I was using hyperbole to speak that I didn’t find much in these rumors to be that unbelievable.
As to unlimited 4K, the 29 minute limit is an EU restriction, and can be removed outside of the EU. In fact, the Panasonic GX8, just announced last week, has no length limit for 4K recording (from what I understand). (though to be fair to you, you’re going to be limited by file size, which will get huge fast on 4K recording, so no, it’s not really unlimited).
In any case, it appears I misunderstood you and you misunderstood me. No hard feelings.
I’d be interested in it had full sensor read-out during video.
Pop-up viewfinder seems to be a good idea as it will allow the body to be smaller! Backside illumination seems also very good as well as HDR. I hope that Sony did also improve the AF in low light! -4EV would be fantastic! I hope also Sony will come up with new lenses like a small and light 16-150mm lens and a 56mm 1.2 à la Fuji for portraiture with nice bookeh!
-4EV AF should be a priority for Sony now, all other specs are easy to achieve or are way ahead of the competition. Low light AF means the end of any APS-C DSLR, for good.
Sounds credible but then I could have extrapolated these specs on top of A6000 and the later camera releases.
Interesting is that stabilization, high speed video and AF are not mentioned
without IBIS, maybe they will reduce size of the camera but not of the stabilized lenses ;
Moreover, bigger camera would help to solve the 4K video heat issue ;). But maybe they can make an new vertical grip with watercooling 😉
A600 has no ibis so i guess it is correct to say – keep the size similar
right :p…..
Yeah, I don’t think it’s possible that the a7000 won’t have IBIS.
Pop up EVF and 180° tiltings screen sounds like a more compact body with less controls. And then no touchscreen and this probably really heavy 16-50mm 2.4-3.6. The handling will be horrible 😉
I doubt that Sony will get less than 28mp, because of the Samsung NX1 and that on sensor HDR, with on sensor HDR you must have as many pixels as you can cram, because you are losing half of the resolution to make this work.
Unless the on sensor HDR works only with the high resolution mode like the Oly.
This is a silly wishlist at a price point that Sony is unlikely to enter with an aps-c camera. Seems like SR1.
How is this Sr2 and not a Sr1 rumor if it is an anonymous source? U simply assign better chance to it Becuse u like to believe it?
“SR2=rumor from unknown sources”
yes. If someone claims, the A7000 is 200mpix medium-format camera and can do 30 frames per second with ISO 1000000000, it will be rated
“SR1=probably fake rumor”
This is more a “SR0.5=BS from unknown source”.
2.36MP Display? Bollocks, it would either be 1.22MP or approx. 5MP if Sony would decide to give it a 4k display. If latter would be an option, the A7RII would have it, too.
16fps full AF on a 24MP Sensor sounds quite ominous.
Unlimited internal 4k video – highly doubtable on a small body.
Kit lens with 2.4-3.6? Bollocks. In fact it was said that Sony would probably come with a new 1650 kit lens. But both 2.4 and 3.6 sounds very doubtable on a zoom lens. I would assume 2.8-4.
Sony just need to make a body that do everything that GX8 do (minus the articulated EVF) at the same price or cheaper.
That means, at least 4k, IBIS, weather sealing. HDR and Super-slow mo are just bonuses.
How is it going to be smaller if the same rumors talk about magnesium weather sealed body? These weather sealed bodies always are larger and heavier Becuse they have to be. If it is truly weather sealed of course. A6000 is clearly not even close to weather sealed. On the other hand why would u want a pop out viewfinder with more moving parts where moisture can get in a weather sealed body?
>larger and heavier Becuse they have to be”
No they don’t.
Rubber gaskets are added in between the gaps where water is likely to pass through, thus effectively blocking the water from entering the circuitry. That’s how it works with the 5Ds. See lensrental’s reardown of the 5ds to see what in talking about. As for the weather dealing on the pop out viewfinder, I’m not sure.
Magnesium or not has nothing to do with the size of the camera, all it is, is the material of the chassis, the shell of the camera.
Why NO touch focus?? The a5100 has touch focus, which is incredibly handy for product and still life shooters. Sony paid a lot of money to be able to tether to Capture One, yet non of their semi-pro or pro cameras have touch focus—not even the a7R2. Why not??
Yes – and using touchscreen for browsing and zooming through pictures for checking sharpness!!
Sounds more like a wish list. Too good to be true! I particularly like the pop out view finder and the 180 degree tilt screen. I also want the level scale back.
Please, no “pop out” viewfinder. I want it there, ready to use, all the time, like the A6000 or NEX-7. Will it pop back in, like the RX100, when I bump it with my eye glasses?
Just because the pop-out EVF is not best on RX100, that does not mean it remains this bad on other models.
Thinking like this, the NEX3/5 would be the only E-mount camera and Sony didn’t continue to develop newer and better models, just because many people complained about many problems of NEX3/5 – making the thesis, that E-mount in general is bad and never can compete with m43 or DSLR.
This list is endless: first EVF compared to OVF was crap – now many people prefer it. First digital sensor was inferior to film. The first car was slower than a horse….
I don’t see the point of a Pop Out viewfinder. It still takes the same amount of space in the body when it is pushed in, so why not leave it in and make a hole in the back to see it?
Pop out EVF is the only way Sony can do a camera with EVF+selfie-screen, as their engineers still haven’t figured out the swivel screen secret sauce.
Without ibis, and dslr lens af compatable I would not buy it.
With those features it might be a tough call against the a7rii and future a9 or a99.
I am definitely not ready to commit to it but it does sound attractive.
“16-50mm F2.4-3.6”
Unlikley, but welcome it if it’s true.
$1500 is not credible for this. In their most recent sale, you could get the A7 with kit lens for $1300, and the A7II with kit lens for $1800, and that’s with IBIS and a FF sensor. The A7000 should not be more than $1k, given where the A6000 and A7 are in the line…..
Aha, makes sense considering the tiny 1″ Sensor in the RX10II at 1.600 € and the RX100IV at 1.150 €. 😛
Cybershot and Alpha line-up are totally different.
They still got the A7II to prove you wrong.
If feature wise it’s a great camera, I think the initial Nex-7 pricing would be appropriate, $1249. I believe that was the Nex-7 price with kit.
The best part of this specs is the 16-50 f2.4-3.6 lens. Even if it is not fixed aperture, it’s faster than a constant f4 (“semi-pro-zoom-lens”) and at 16mm it is even faster than a f2.8 (“pro-zoom-lens”).
I hope this lens is quite small.
The lens is certainly interesting. It’s about time the APS-C E-mount goes pro(like). I’m not caring for its size, but image quality, and ergonomics.
The best part and the most impossible to achieve, unless we’re talking about a gigantic lens like that one on Fuji.
people were talking such things about huge 24/1.8
I don’t care 4k, IBIS, 16 burst, or other gadgets. I only waitin for for 14 uncompressed raw output, to compete with best modern apsc cameras in IQ, like Nikon d5500 with similar sensor.
Better keep that Nikon then, bye.
Same with me. This rumored feature list looks like a list of gimmicks. “Pop-up viewfinder”? Absolutely no one asked for that. What the heck?
15 stops gimmick? W-T-F!
Is it really 15 stops, or just another half-baked in-camera HDR combination that doesn’t really meet professional standards? I’m guessing the latter.
For $1,000 (!) more than the a6000?
The ability to shoot 4K and the ability to stabilize the sensor will sell tons of cameras. Implementing some 14-bit “true RAW” scheme is just going to get a handful of OCD-riddled amateurs to pipe down for a day until they find the next impossible/needless feature Sony “owes” them– without which their creative genius will continue to go untapped.
I’m actually more interested in that 16-50mm lens than in the A7000…
“The camera set will be targeted to the professional consumer demanding uncompromised image quality in a small body. The target retail price will be set at1499$”
Does this mean that after so many years there will be a roadmap for APS-C E-mount cameras again? Or does it mean that Sony expect everybody to complement their APS-C lens line up with the bigger and more expensive FE lenses?
If this is even true, of course…
That’s the same tagline for the A7 bodies. At 1500.00 I can get an A7II- for a little more I can grab the surprisingly good kit lens.
Yeah, this price can’t be real
No mentioning IBIS…But 15.5 DR is impressive if true.
Not likely. Resolution will be over 24mp. Pop-up viewfinder also not likely in 7-series camera. We need facts not imagination.
sounds like a wishlist..
“unlimited 4K recording”
that was never a technical limit, but a import taxation limit. that alone makes this fail the “sniff test”
Sony cameras have a history of sensor overheating after a few minutes, so it is a very real limitation. My NEX7 couldn’t do more than 6 minutes and that wasn’t even 4K. Amazingly, all of the reviews touting it as a great “hybrid” shooter failed to mention that part. I’m really skeptical about the video features here. If video was my primary interest, I probably would not buy this camera until after a few months have passed and after Googling “overheating” and not finding any results. Sony video quality is usually awesome when it works, or in the windows before it overheats. I loved the NEX7 IQ.
Does the A6000 overheat?
My A5100 doesn’t after three consecutive 25-28 minute takes shot right after each other – this was in Florida sunshine at the end of May. My Nex5n and 7 could barely manage a single 10 minute take without shutting down. I usually shoot lots of short takes as opposed to one long one, but I was impressed when the A5100 was put to work.
Good to hear (on the A5100). 4k has got to be a bigger challenge though.
Cap it like the RX100. I wish they would have done that on the A7s.
I would pay the extra tax or whatever it costs to have unlimited recording and writing to a single file. However, my Sony NEX-5T overheats quickly (~12 min.) so hopefully Sony can fix this. I recorded 4K video for over an hour with my Panasonic FZ-1000 and just got warm and it never stopped except at the stupid artificial 30 min. limit. However, it still broke the files into 4GB chunks despite the card being formatted for exFAT.
I won’t want the touchscreen again unless it’s as responsive a smartphone. I’ve also now think Sony’s flip up “selfie” screen like on the 5T is better than what I thought was the best side flip before like on the FZ-1000 since the flip up is so much quicker to pop out spontaneously. The weather sealing is a huge plus too. Lastly, 60 fps 4K video would be the only other think I’d want. Of course this is rumors, but one can hope!
it would be fairly significant in europe which is why camera manufacturer’s limit it to 30 minutes. a 1499 euro (assuming it’s done at the par thing between USD and Euros) would then be around 1725 euros – an increase of 225 euros to the base import price. then add VAT % difference on top of that. So a total of around 1770 euro.
IBIS?
Touch Screen?
Lossless compressed RAW?
Popout EVF? Does not make sense as an A7000 is not a small body if it is to have all the substantial external controls like the NEX-7. A popup EVF also sounds fragile and likely of lower resolution.
None of ibis, touch screen or uncompressed raw will come to the crop world.
If size is priority forget ibis. A7m2 rivals small dslrs in both weight and size . This will be total deal breaker for a crop camera.
Uncompressed raw will have to come to a7r ii first and then may be trickle to the cheaper models in some years
Olympus is not much difference in size and they have IBIS
I would have liked a 36 MP BSI Sensor. But 24mp BSI is also cool.
All I really needed is BSI Sensor + better / faster AF in low light (Dslr Lenses AF is bonus) + More controls + More Tilty screen at the same price point as the A6000. 4K is a bonus & great for marketing but not something that tickles my pickle.
What I think we will see :
Magnesium and weather sealed body (about the same level as the A7ii), Tilting touch screen, Higher resolution EVF (probably the same as the new RX10), IBIS, 4k movie recording, 14fps with AF, same 24mp sensor as A6000 but with updated processor for better low light AF.
As soon as he said “Unlimited 4k video recording” I call it BS! There are laws that require a 29 min limit, or this would be considered a camcorder and taxed appropriately.
All cameras have odd number of af points. Nice try.
1500$ no way… it better be full frame for that much
Looks like guesswork to me.
I love the a6000 and am very interested in a follow-on.
I don’t want a pop-up viewfinder. I don’t need a touch screen. I don’t shoot video. I don’t shoot sports. I don’t care if the body is magnesium.
So at $1500, that new sensor would have to be really fantastic.
I hope this is the price with the new high end kit lens making 2/3rds of the price
The 15.5 stop video is absolute crazy-talk. The Red Dragon tops DXO ratings with 14.8 stops. This won’t exceed that, same for the A7rII. In stills mode it’ll get close, in video 12 stops is about the max we’re gonna see with 8-bit video.
Price seems high as well and Sony clearly wants people spending that much to go FF and buy more expensive lenses.
I’d go SR1 at the most on this one.
Technically Sony can get easily the 15.5 EV dynamic range in video. If any company can do it, it is Sony. I think you point out a problem that 15.5 stops of dynamic range even with SLog2 will be of no use if there are only 8 bits of color resolution and you are probably right! Yet Sonny are known to do stupid gimmicks now and then that mess up an incredible product and render it useless. Consider how they compress RAW files from the A7 series a total abomination.
there’s also the fact that most lenses can’t handle 15.5 stops – flare and veiling take over after you get past 10 to 11 stops as we’re not tonal compressing.
it’s like saying “we don’t need 24 mp because the circle of confusion in extreme corner is 2 pixels”
In short: lenses do not have strict DR-cutoff.
No, it’s like saying “we don’t need 2000 MPix as the lens can resolve only 20 MPix.” And that is true.
If they could easily get it, don’t you think the the F55 cinema camera would have at least 15.5 stops? The F55 has 14 stops of DR – and that’s shooting raw. The aforementioned Red Dragon gets a little more – also shooting raw. Video from Sony’s cheap consumer cameras will not get close with a compressed codec or anything else for years. They lack the processing power to output raw video and we’re a long ways away from a heavily compressed codec capturing 15+ stops.
you’re not understanding the tech behind it, only thing you have grasped is that “RAW is cool”
The coolness of raw has nothing to do with it. Its a consumer camera – so it won’t get anything more than the 8-bit 4:2:0, 100mbps, XAVC codec that’s in the A7RII. Anyone thinking they’ll get 15.5 stops out of that heavily compressed codec is dreaming.
RAW *is* cool. Blackmagic has had the “computing power” (in it’s $999 model) to output either 10-bit RAW or 4 varieties of ProRes. Sony’s bottle neck (this is directed at those who think 4K in the a7 cameras is a “heat” issue, or a “computing” issue) is its need to logically diversify its model lines and features accordingly.
i am not arguing against raw is cool, but you still can have high DR with only 8 bits its gamma is non-linear.
I agree, I’m just messing around. :p
DR and RAW are not related. SLog is doing logarithmic representation of your signal known in cinema for decades. So this allows you to compress enormous dynamic range in fewer bits. You can take this to extreme like 20 stops in 8 bits however you will probably see posterization artifacts. So may be extending the bits to 12 or even 14 would be very nice if indeed 16 stops of Dynamic Range can be captured by the sensor.
Now the real problem is actually building a sensor that can capture this wide dynamic range. Sony are now producing sensors that go to 14.5 stops – many tests out there show it. For video they want to use couple of pixels with different exposure times like HDR bracketing but realtime to increase this range furtner. Theoretically they can produce easily 3 stops of additional dynamic range from pairs of pixels e.g. the photo HDR function Sony already have uses 3 images to give you 6(!!!) additional stops of dynamic range (wow!). Naturally using 2 neighboring pixels will produce moire, so this is completely not applicable to F55.
So no issue here.
The recording format on the cameras and many of the functions are really capped by marketing. sony are basically protecting their higher end video products by limiting their amateur range products.
All this said we can reasonably hope for SLog enabled 10 bit capture compressed in to XAVC-S (the consumer format) that expresses 15.5 stops of dynamic range.
All of that is irrelevant, its a consumer camera – so it won’t get anything more than the 8-bit 4:2:0, 100mbps, XAVC codec that’s in the A7RII. Anyone thinking they’ll get 15.5 stops out of that is dreaming.
Sony seems to like 8-bit unless you’re paying near $10K and up. But you never know… We got the XAVC-S higher bit rate, which was rather unexpected. Most cameras in this segment are using 24/28 Mbs AVCHD at 30, maybe 60 FPS. I think 10 bit will come one day, but not soon.
The F55 has been around a while now, but if it were just coming out, I would be surprised if it had 16 stops of DR.
When you use high pixel count photo sensors for video, there are tricks you can do to simultaneously “bracket” and combine nearby pixels to achieve a higher DR. Throw in a super-flat picture profile and the whole “stops of DR” argument becomes hard to nail down.
The Dragon is fairly new, costs many times more than any E-mount camera and still can’t hit 15.5 stops. The F55 successor may get there, maybe not. But they both record raw – which contains far more color info than 8-bit, 4:2:0 XAVC and Slog2 – which is all we’re going to see in any A6000 successor.
What may be possible with pixel tricks and and other means being proposed simply will not be on this camera – a fact everyone arguing with me completely ignores. 8-bit 4:2:0 – just like the A7RII and every other Sony mirrorless camera is all we’ll see – and it will not have 15.5 stops.
Even Sony’s claim of 15.3 stops with the A7s turned out to be laughably false – its about 12. Anyone expecting more DR from this fantasy camera than the A7s is delusional.
it’s not crazy at all. they can do variable-exposure for different pixels. e.g. if you expose odd rows 8 times longer than even ones, you get +3 stops
the f/2.6-3.6 is actually only a bit faster than the Zeiss (3.6 versus 4)
Well its quite a bit faster on the wide end – f/2.4 vs f/4. That will make it big and expensive. File this one with the curved sensor RX2 unicorn.
wide end doesn’t really count because it could be fast on the Zeiss too, but they don’t do because of marketing purposes.
Wide end factors into the size/weight/cost as much as any other part of a zoom. Doesn’t matter really, this “rumor” is vaporware. I put rumor in quotes because this is obviously false.
The rumor is likely false, just as your knowledge of optics
I’m simply grounded in reality and not delusional enough to think we’re getting 15.5 stops out of an 8-bit 4:2:0, low bitrate codec in a consumer camera when Sony doesn’t even have a professional camera can reach that number. The A7s barely manages 12 stops. If a A6000 successor ever surfaces, it won’t top the A7s.
You’re grounded in ignorance. Ever heard of gamma compression? Log 2 gamma packs these 16 stops in 8 bits, log 3 gamma can accomodate 24 stops into these 8 bits. in exchange for reduced contrast, of course.
4:2:0 means how blocks are compressed. But apparently highlights and shadows don’t have to be in same block.
I have to remind you Magic Lantern hobbyists have made extended DR option in video for Canon cameras, using high and low ISO for different pixels.
Again you’re talking about a $1000 consumer camera which will not see any of those features. I’m not talking about what’s possible, I’m talking about what Sony specs on the camera. Sure lots of things are possible, but not at that price point. Therein lies the ignorance. Keep dreaming about the 15.5 stops that we’ll never see. I’m exiting this conversation about – quite literally – nothing. Cheers.
RED dragon gets high ratings on DXO because it fits their calculation, in reality the RED dragon only have 11.5EV effective information，while the Nikon D810 is one stop better at 12.7EVs of true DR.
the high dynamic range usually means better range for retouching, you get more flexibility when edit the file, of course you not gonna see all the raw info saved in each frame, so it was not contradictory when you have more then 12stops of DR but seeing final work in 8bit
in terms of prices
the MSRP of fuji XT1 body only was 1300usd, same weather resistant body, apsc format, fast focus, but no 4k, no HDR video.
the MSRP of canon 7D mark II body only was 1700usd
the Panasonic GH4 with 4k, weather resistant body and DFD focusing also asked 1700usd for body only MSRP
only camera in the same stage with better built quality but lack of 4k and HDR video is the nikon D7200, which only start at 1200usd for the body
Focal length and physical aperture are the main factors that determine how big a lens must be.
That rumoured 16-50 is smaller in both departments: 50mm vs 70mm and 13.9mm vs 17.5mm, so sub-300 grams seems quite possible to me.
I’m just hoping the optical quality will be better than the 16-70; that one does not live up to (my) expectations set by its Zeiss name tag and high price.
pop-up viewfinder on Rx100 iii is ‘handy’, but the experience using it is no where near that of a viewfinder with an eye-cup on it. This in itself would be a serious step backwards.
I am used to a viewfinder without eyecup on it, I could never manage to keep one on the NEX-7 for more than 3 weeks. After losing 3 of them, i gave up. The way Sony fixes it on the viewfinder ist really a mess.
The other option is to keep the camera as is– leaving no space for the screen since the viewfinder sits above it (e.g. a6000).
I think I’d take a pop up EVF and a great screen over the “cuppy” EVF and tiny, ridiculous screen.
Aside from “touch to AF,” a touchscreen is just going to turn the camera further into a toy.
Ever used a camera when it’s so cold you need gloves? Or when you couldn’t take your eye of the subject to dik around with menu swipes?
Sony’s pro cameras like the F5, F55 and F65 design button layout well so you ca operate the cameras with having to dig through options or swipe around on a screen.
If you want a “touch screen” why don’t you ask for further enhancements to the play memory app so you can use you phone to swipe and swirl through those options?
In the cold, yes. Also very often outdoors in the sun, where I can’t even see the LCD display. But we’re going to get the touchscreen regardless, because the market wants everything like an iPhone. Or will, until they try it for a while, and see how tedious and frustrating that will so often be.
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Total, over the top BS should not make its way here as a rumor.
The a700 also needs to remain the same size as the a6000. The GX8 is HUGE, it’s a real effing porker.
Where’s the touchscreen Sony? I’ve used a touchscreen on my Olympus micro four-thirds and they make a HUGE difference in video. Sony, you gotta give us a touchscreen.
Have Olympus stopped making cameras? that is so sad.
I think the rumor is that there is a EM10 M2 on the way – they lost a lot of money few years back – even Sony had to come and buy a chunk of them – so therefore now Sony is styling the 5axis IBIS – have a feeling Olympus camera business is not doing so hot – the EM1 made them some money but now with no 4k it is getting overlooked – as NX1 and GH4 and GX8 and G7 all have 4K
probably be 800
Great! Where do I buy this? Why haven’t pre orders started anywhere yet?
They will announce once the A7rII hit the market, because they will most likely show the A7sII together.
lol… this is just a rumour with low reliability
Sony should find a better way for the veiwfinder, a popup system is rubbish, that is good on an extra small point & shoot like rx100, not on a camera where you use it permanently. Then, the viewfinder we had on previous systems needs a review, The Eyecup gets lost due to a rubbish system to fix it on the viewfinder on NEX and A6000 systems. Then, it gets dirty all the time and is almost impossible to clean without an ear cotton or any fabric assisted by a matchstick. I need to clean the viewfinder screen permanently, most after putting it on the eye 4 or 5 times, it’s dirty again. Note that I live in tropical regions where we sweat permanently, and eyes emit foggy emissions as well in such climate. Except this, what is given as rumors sounds good. A touch screen would be welcome as well, I do not need it, but many want one. And definitely, a new lens to replace that rubbish lens we find on Nex-6 and A6000 system would be a bargain. What’s about the Tri-Navy system, i would like to find this system back with a wheel at back and one at front of the camera. So, once more, let’s wait an see what it brings us. With all new models we have seen recently from Sony, we got more than we expected, let’s hope to be able to say the same for the coming A7000
You just have dirty eyes, sir! 😉
Seriously, you’re right. No one needs a pop-out viewfinder and the current eyecup get lost too easily (that reminds me of re-ordering a new one because I lost mine a couple of weeks ago). And a Tri-Nav would be great. Accentually it would be the only reason for me to upgrade my A6000. The AF-point selection is just not quick enough. And I doubt that eats up too much space.
BSI is nice too of course. But it doesn’t make me run for a new body right now.
After losing a couple of eyecups I glue it in position with super glue! I never lose it again!
It’s not dirty eyes only, in the tropical regions we sweat sometimes, or most of time on the head, and it is condensation, it’s mist, and the fact the thing is inlayed makes it difficult to clean. When that mist dries, and it dries fast, it is like a foggy film over it and that is really anoying. If it had a simple glass on top so it was flat, it would be easy to clean. I know you are joking, but believe me, it’s real sh*tty.
I’m getting really fed up waiting for Sony to reveal this camera. I was ready to buy a few months ago. I’m a little worried that these specs don’t include a touchscreen as part of the mix. I will be disappointed if it doesn’t have one. Finally… the price mentioned is ridiculous! May as well get the new A7 :-/
No IBIS? Perhaps Sony would not interfere with their FF seriies. If so I am not going to buy any, at least until the A7rII price drops. Or may there will be the A7000 II.
You have measurements for a lens that doesn’t actually exist? Even with Sony’s heavily created optics, that goofy rumor would still produce an expensive lens and f/2.4 on the wide end will be pretty big/expensive. Its Sony after all.
He listed max focal length and physical aperture (in mm) at the tele end. The latter is found by dividing focal range by f-stop.
Don’t care – its not real.
Kit lens ? … too good to be true.
Also, 16-50mm F2.4-3.6 … that would be incredible if it would also retracted, otherwise it will turn out very big !
I’ll believe it when I see it.
OTOH, can Sony really bring out the A7000 without a better kit lens ?
Specs and price seems unlikely. I do however hope the A7000 (or whatever it will be called) is going to be available soon. Going on vacation at the end of August and it would be nice to get a new camera by then.
The most unlkely spec is imo the kit lens, 2.4 – 3.6 16-50mm, what kind of aperture is that? And how big, or how bad must the IQ be?
For that price it should be a mini a7-II, with IBIS (and a bigger body if that requires it).
Plus, the HDR thing sounds really unlikely. In fact, it makes no sense at all. Sony already caps the DR it offers in video mode in all the a7 models, by at least a couple of stops, by providing slog2 but not slog3 (which these sensors could very well support).
I might possibly buy this camera but if it is only available with a kit lens that I do not need or want then I absolutely positively would not buy it.
It sounds very very good, but, really????? That 16-50mm would be a DREAM “kit” lens… If the ISO could increase by thirds, it`d be amazing… And a very clean ISO 5000 would be woooow. (I guess a clean ISO 6400 should be too much for the price…). And which be the weight of the combination???. There should be a version of that rumored zoom for the a7s Mark II (16MP, IBIS, and the same super clean ISOS).
I think some of the specs are a bit far fetched – if and only if there is an A7000 then it would cost $1299 body only and with kit 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 $1499 – it would contain 4K and be weather sealed – fairly likely it would have 5 axis IBIS – and it would have a backlit sensor at 24MP – No Touch LCD or Touch Shutter, seems Fuji and Sony will never consider it –
It will be specked similar to the new Panasonic GX8 and will be very similar size –
It’s the best one can do, they do not cost a fortune at Adorama, but they wanted to charge me the same amount of money they charge for any packet while the thing can be sent in a Jiffy bag by simple mail. It was impossible to get Adorama to change there policy, but i do not pay 55$ transportation cost to send me a 6$ Item that fits in a jiffy bag and can be sent by simple mail for just 2.50$. So, i did not buy a new one, and where I live, (Philippines) it was impossible to get any Sony Center to order one for me. So i forgot it and got used to work without it.
what i really hoped they put in the camera would be a 5-axis like what olympus did to their oem10II… if they have that my money will be theirs the instant they release the camera
That´s right. But if they don´t, I am gonna buy A7 with axis..
My guess for the Sony A7000 specs:
– the A7000 body, build & look will be almost identical to A7 series cameras, minus the prism thingy on top as it might have a pop up EVF, but more likely no EVF!
– APS-C BSI 24mp backlit sensor, same as A7rII but smaller & less MP, but with increased DR!
– xavc codec 100mbit 4K internal recording
– IBIS in body
– 120fps 1080P or 4k 60fps? pretty please
– flip OLED rear screen
Price $999 body only & $1,299usd with kit lens (it might cost a little more in the end, but it should be priced competitively as its a saturated market for this prosumer mirrorless beast to be!