Today at 9pm London time Fuji will announce the new X PRO 1 camera. As you know you can I am going to follow live the Fuji announcement by updating this website with all news, reviews and image samples. And as it is usual before the announcement new rumors are floating around the web. There is one particular rumor saying that Fuji will announce the development of a Full Frame mirrorless and interchangeable system. As usual take those rumors with a grain of salt but I would not be surprised to hear that Fuji will give us some hints about their future lineup. They usually do that and they could do it today too!
From top to bottom this could be the new X camera order:
– X FF camera system
– X PRO 1 APS-C camera system
– X 100 (enthusiast fixed lens camera. Already in Stock: [shopcountry 100018].)
– X S1 (entry level super zoom camera. Preorders just started at Adorama)
– X 10 (entry level compact camera already in Stock: [shopcountry 100018].)
Announcement time Reminder:
4pm NYC time (16:00)
9pm London time (21:00)
10pm Berlin time (22:00)
6am Tokyo time (06:00)
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maybe they already have it and that leaked $1700 body only amazon page is for that. that was a weird one because lens pages did have a basic tech spec where body page didn’t. also $1700 is a bit too much to ask for APS-C body only for mirrorless system
Not likely a full-frame based on the lens focal length. It is likely APS-C with the lens designed to be 28mm, 50mm and 90mm in 35mm FF equivalent.
I know X-Pro1 is APS-C – what I meant is that the amazon product page. if you remember first rumours about this started after pdf of French photo mag appeared on Russian forums and that was February issue. and price there for kit with 35mm f/1.4 was stated at around 1300€ – which would be about adequate price for this (sorry APS-C is APS-C, there’s no magic in it, it can perform in DR and maybe even in high ISO as FF but will never achieve the same shallow DoF as FF)
+1 An APS-C sensor will never be a FF 24×36 even with the best performances…
Interesting rumor, but I’d expect that Fuji has qute a lot of work ahead before the X Pro is a complete system. Three lenses, a flash and one body is a pretty marginal system.
About X-S1 and X10 being “entry level” superzoom and compact models: I’d say both are among the most advanced in each class and clearly enthusiast cameras.
For prime shooters (which this camera seems to be targeted at), these three lenses will likely be enough to get one. What I would like to add to these is the 57mm f/1.4 and 23mm f/2.0 (85mm and 35mm in FF equivalent).
there is 60mm f/2.4 lens – that’s your portrait lens
If on FF perhaps but f/2.4 on APS-C just don’t cut it.
I have an X100 so the 23mm f/2.0 is covered for now but a 23mm f/2.0 lens for the X-Pro1 would be a delight.
more are coming according to previous rumours. there should be a telephoto and also 23mm lens. 60mm and f/2.4 could result in 10cm DoF on subjects 2m away or even shallower if subject is closer
If 60/2.4 if the only portrait lens for the X PRO system, then that would be a really bad move for Fuji. f/2.4 is too slow for portraits. minimum is f/1.8, but f/1.4 would be preferred.
why? leica’s 90mm lenses are 2.5 and 2.8 – it’s short telephoto, you don’t need such large aperture to achieve thin DoF, at least for portraits not
I also tend to believe otherwise. I have the 2,5 105mm Nikkor, which renders wonderful colours and bokeh, and stopped down to 2,8 is sharp and contrasty, but not enough to reveal flaws in skin. 1,4 is good for portraiture if you are on a short focal length on a large sensor, but 2,4 may be good for a roughly 90mm equivalent field of view. That said, I think it possible that Fuji won’t approach the 60mm as a portrait lens.
Fuji guys are working in a way what I havent seen from other manufacturers since a long time! It looks like other camera manufacturers would get a huge competition!
Oh, I waited so long for a cheaper Leica clone or new FF RD1s, our dreams get true slowly to use those gorgeous M mount lenses without cropped FOV!
I don´t believe this. They proclaimed their new system to beat FF. So why should they develop one more niche system?
The chart on top also shows only ONE camera (system) above X100
“They proclaimed their new system to beat FF. So why should they develop one more niche system?”
They want to beat MF ;).
“The chart on top also shows only ONE camera (system) above X100”
Yes, but there’s a line that goes straight from X100 – maybe that’s for APS-C cameras.
Knowing the size of full frame lenses for digital sensors, the only reason for me to have a FF camera would be using legacy lenses. So, if they could come up with a FF model that can use modern APS-C and m4/3 lenses in crop mode, I’m in, but I guess that’s many years away.
Miroslav
When I shoot people shots, I tend to want to use my 5DMKII with the 85mm. I love the amount of compression this lens achieves with faces.
On an APS-c that same 85mm would still be applicable except now I’d be working with a field of view 128mm. This working distance to subject goes out the window and in many cases unusable. Now I’d have to step down to a 50mm to achieve 75mm field of view—the compression of the 50mm is not the same.
Hence for me, full-frame has a permanent spot in my bag.
I’m not one of those who wants an aps-c system for the simple reason that I also shoot 35mm film and want to use the same lenses at the same focal lengths, my digital collection is in some ways, painful as all my lenses work at different focal lengths.
The Xpro, if aps-c, is probably lost on me and probably a number of photographers whose favourite lenses are also used on film cameras. I know we are probably a very small percentage of potential buyers, but it makes very little sense for Fuji to deliver two different systems, especially if the lenses will have to be adapted for both apsc and for 35mm cameras.
If the lenses and mount fit an eventual 35mm sensor, then fine, but otherwise, it is fuji’s ??????? as well as being thoughtless of their customers.
I hope they talk anout the future lenses..including the excellent 35mm they use in the X100…………….please
They use a 23mm lens, not a 35mm lens, but it is good, despite being nearly worthless for manual focus. The X100 alone is enough to make me want to get rid of my Nikon stuff, but I wont get rid of my Nikon stuff for a camera system that makes me split my lens focal lengths, that is unless my D200 breaks down.
It would be a logical choise to have a system of multiple sensor-size bodies, with same lensmount, but the one on rumored images of “X-Pro” seems a bit too small for that. But than again those are just a rumor images or just illustration 3D renders.
Can’t wait that annoucement 🙂
not necessarily – it’s the same size as M9 (a bit wider and taller than M9) and being it mirrorless lenses don’t need to be that large. If i remember correctly the lens is only 8mm from the sensor.
X-Pro 1 voted ugliest brick of CES already ahead of show!
wow, really? on images provided by various photo blogs it looks stunning. i thought about Nikon’s 1 system that it’s ugly, it was ugly on the pictures but in hand it’s really nice
If it was the Pen-PRO or some LX-2, would you say that? 😉
maybe tjey are making a full frame sensor for leica.
I was thinking the same. Kodak filing for bankruptcy – that’s what M9 uses if I remember correctly and Fuji’s research in organic sensors looks quite promising if all that info flying around the net is correct.
Kodak sold their sensor business around September…
Oh, that’s good news, do you know who bought that division? – well I guess I could just look it up and be lazy 🙂 – thank you for info
Steve Huff has full spec of this new cam: http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/01/09/detailed-fuji-x-pro-1-specs/
Thanks hexx for the link to specs.
I wonder what “focus check” is. Is that just normal showing when auto focus is done? I cant see anything there that indicates how the provide for manual focus.
i believe it for MF – something i was missing on X100 – my old Nikon dSLR used flash with small green light in the VF if i was in focus – so I guess that’s what it’s all about
After talking about how they have an APS that is better than full frame they will not be creating a full frame camera.
I don’t think this rumor is true…
Why Fuji’d announce a FF if they just leak the APS-C model ? I’d certainly not buy the APS-C at $1700 body price waiting for the FF….
The 3 lenses are clearly made for APS-C so I don’t think they’ll make another ones for FF…
OR maybe Fuji tries another rumor strategy ? Because they saw that people who use M-mount lenses still want a FF (to keep real focal), and that this body ‘d not compete with the M9 even with “equal or better performances than Fullframe” !
I saw the specs from “Stevehuff” website and I’m not really impressed (waiting for sensor performances of course), above all when we know the X100 problems about focusing, in fact the biggest interest is lenses….
I wonder if it’s possible to build adapter wich keep the real focal lens ? There is teleconverter, but it’s seem there is no wideangle adapter ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filler_%28media%29
The dof of a 60mm lens on 1.5x crop factor sensor at f 2.4 is about that of a 90mm lens on a full frame sensor at f3.8.
Now, a 90mm f3.8 on ff is not exactly what I would call a good lens for portraits..,
you can use online DoF calculator to work it out – i tried and for subject distance of 2m DoF is 10cm – ideal for portraits
I do not understand: if a 1/2 size sensor can be as good as FF, why then not make an FF sensor of the same stuff–so it will be that much better???
We waiting for the Fuji X645 Pro a mirror less camera with a sensor of 40mm x 56mm and 60 million pixels, introduce with 3 lenses: 40mm 2.8 wide, 70mm 2.0 standard and a 140mm 2.8 telephoto.
Later a 120mm 4.0 macro and a 28mm 2.8 superwide.
Two slots for SD cards, Fuji EVF hybrid finder, ISO range 50 till 4000, Multishot function 200MP, 16bit RAW.
Pricing body € 7000 , with standard 70mm 2.0 € 9000.
coming next photokina