Back in March a trusted source told me two things:
1) The A7rII is already in production and will likely ship in June (article here).
2) Sony has also a second 50MP camera model in the works (article here).
And right now I just got that directly from another Sony “insider” anonymous source:
We heard from our rep yesterday that there would be two new ff cameras announced both a7rmkii and a8?! He seemed to think that the a7rii would be as the a7ii, just better erg and is. The a8 is apparently the high MP 50+ body.
First of all thanks to the anonymous source! And damn, let’s hope this one now becomes real just like the SR3 Batis lens rumor we posted in January 🙂
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Fund set aside since last November….I want that a8.
If that a8 is true, then I want those 2 Batis goodies & FE 90mm macro as well.
I hope an A8 or A9 camera is more to than just a different sensor in the existing bodies. No, a higher-end model should be more robust and give the user more professional control. Additionally, I think Sony should just skip the standard model and go very us only two versions instead of three—an A8r (or A9r) and a A8s (or A9s).
‘A8’ having more resolution than an ‘R’ model really doesn’t make a lot of sense.
maybe a8r ?
Trying to make sense of camera model name schemes is headache inducing.
Maybe they should’ve released the A7II in 36MP and the 50+MP as A7RII
I think the high megapixel camera will have an A mount.
Wouldn’t that be cool if it was full featured, high MP, with on sensor PDAF, and an A Mount, in a body that is smaller and lighter than an A99.
Or 1 A mount & 1 E mount. Same everything except body & AF module. Everyone happy and lowers the cost for Sony to pump them out.
Like which great lenses will the A mount camera use…there are only 4 or 5 lenses that will likely work decently on 50MP A mount body.
Note that all FE lenses about a dozen now perform decently on 36MP and are likely to stay so at 50MP
Based on your comment on A mount lenses, you don’t seem very familiar with the system.
However, one of the greatest things about E mount is that you can mount A mount lenses.
(and a great number of other wonderful lenses from most other mounts!)
Maybe that’s why the 16-35 and 24-70 a mount lenses were updated recently.
They weren’t updated optically though, apart from new coatings I believe.
I most likely are wrong but I thought they added in new aspherical and extra low dispersion glass into them as well as new coatings.
i dont know about corner performance, but even most minolta glass is fine on 24mp apsc, so really its the corners that maybe the issue
I truly hope the AF can match that of the A77II so I can be lighter on events.
A7II or a77-II? Equal to the former is wishful thinking, equal to the latter is silly.
Christopher, I own both A7 and A77II and there is no E mount camera that can match the AF speed of the A77II.
Except A6000 which Sony advertise as faster than A77 II
I use A6000 and do not really find it blazing fast nor reliable in tracking. I assume that A77 ii is better at tracking and A6000 beats in only sheer speed.
Please provide your evidence, When, Where, What situation ?
Sony have ever advertise A6000 faster than A77ii?
it had lots of press attention for worlds fastest at launch, while a77ii seemed very much a after thought, and i still have my suspisicions it was gimped at launch on purpose, so baby darling a6000 could grab the headlines
Not really, a77II was always fast but after the last firmware update this camera beats the A6000 and many more of the competition out there from Canon and Nikon. I think Sony didn’t really know what great camera they built and did not advertise it as such.
That’s the kicker- it’s the accuracy. Not to mention, who would mount a 300mm F4 or 2.8 on that thing? Most speed situations are being used with a telephoto lens of some sort.
And yet you think a 36 to 50mp a7rII/a8 can equal it?
Hoping for the technology in mirror less get there but I’m not interested in such high MP camera
The article you commented on is about slower cameras with 36 and possibly 50+mp…
For god’s sake, A7II ergonomics are NOT better! The wheels are awful, the camera is too heavy and EVF sensor is still overly excited to see you from a mile away.
Too heavy? There is an rx100 (rev 1) for those who cannot bear any weight.
Too heavy as in if you add the LA-EA4 adapter it’s barely lighter than a A99.
Well, that’s very different but unfortunately it’s also physics – the laea 4 has both an SLT and screw drive AF motor and has to compensate for the flange difference.
If I’m fine with carrying that much weight (I am) I can carry an A7, battery grip and the LA-EA4 adapter. Battery trip improves the battery life and ergonomics for portrait shooting greatly so sometimes I would prefer it to both an A99 and A7II.
To keep the weight same with an A7II, I either have to let go of the battery grip or the LA-EA4 adapter. Adapter is harder to let go due to a lack of lenses in E-Mount so I’d usually end up leaving the battery grip home. And in that case, I’m still carrying the same weight as an A99 with worse ergonomics and performance (apart from the actual sensor performance which is still close). The price for the whole package is also quite similar to an A99.
wrong! there is Canon G7x 🙂
The weight is a problem, I compared the A7II to my A7 last week when I had my camera in for sensor-cleaning, and the weight difference (and also, to a certain extent, the size difference) was noticeable. While I had the camera at the shop I used my old NEX-7, and the difference between the NEX-7 and the A7 is considerable. I don’t want the camera to be heavier or bulkier than the A7, considering all the other things i sacrifice for portability compared to a DSLR. Like lenses, AF (at least with the A7) and partly ergonomics. If the mirrorless FF-cameras grow much more, several of these sacrifices become less bearable.
Too heavy? There is an iphone for those who cannot bear any weight.
A7 + LA-EA4 or A7 + Battery grip is lighter than a A7II.
A7 does not have IBIS.
The IBIS is heavy, it is formed by powerful magnet & high strength metal.
If you read the Sony interview, they explain the reason.
The magnet must be very powerful, it is so powerful that the metal frame can be bend if it is not strong enough.
Also, the movement part are made in metal, so that the heat from the sensor can effectively dissipate.
Not everyone cares that much about IBIS. Even those who do, don’t always care about it. Sometimes it’s nice to have something lighter and smaller.
So just buy the A7…problem solved….
I do have one already.
The wheels are an improvement – the old ones were very uncomfortable because of the jagged edges. Some say the new wheels are too small, but I’ve found them absolutely fine.
Too heavy? Well it’s heavier, no doubt, but too heavy? I happily carry that tiny bit of extra weight for IBIS and the MUCH more solid build.
I do agree with you on the sensor, but it generally doesn’t cause me too many problems.
If you’re using A mount lenses, A7II + LA-EA4 adapter is barely lighter (by 50g or so) than A99 which has much thougher build, larger battery, much better screen and much better AF and MF.
…….and doomed to use only A mount lenses and lacks basics like zebra
A-mount camera can have zebra
A77ii have zebra, and fast focus with 70-200 2.8, 70-400G, 150-600
The size & weight of A77ii/A99 is perfect balance with heavy lens.
A mount camera can have zebra but A99 does not. All I am saying is that A99 is not better than A7 ii. A99 and current A mount lack many of the small improvements in A7. Timelapse is another example. Remote functionality over wifi is very limited.
I am not sure if the infrared remote on A99 supports bracketing I believe it did not.
I doubt there is any focus speed difference between A7 ii and A99 with the lenses you list. Nor does the 50 grams weight matter in that case at all – these lenses are more than 1kg each.
Perhaps A99 ii could have all the modern extras if released
Have you actually used an A7 II?
A99 is tougher build? Not really – the A7II is very solid all over. Not once have I felt it need to be tougher, which was not the case with the A7.
Better screen? They are the same specs. The A99 LCD is more adjustable – that’s it.
Much better AF? There is nothing special about the A99 AF whatsoever – mediocre AF-C and tracking and susceptible to back focus and general inaccuracy – the A-mount range suffered when Sony took away f/2.8 AF sensors. The A7 II matches the A99 in most scenarios, except low light, but even that has been improved now that the AF assist light now combines with the AF point properly.
Of course adding adapters etc. the overall weight is not going to be much less, that’s obvious. But then the A99 can never be small like an A7/A7II with an FE 35/2.8, for example. Flexibility is the key here.
-A99 is probably better weather sealed. I’ve got some sand particles stuck inside the front wheel of my A7 once so I don’t believe A7 is sealed at all.
-I’ve handled the A7II a few times, it surely feels better in hand than the A7 but it’s not better than A99. And I’m sure the rear AF/AF Lock switch will get sticky in a few months use, just like A7 and Nex 7.
-A99 AF is better than LA-EA4. It also has the Smooth MF mode which gives the MF ring some useful extra weight while keeping the distance info with all SAL lenses. LA-EA doesn’t have that. The distance info is useful with AF Range Limiter functions and also in metering and flash metering.
-Yes, A7 + small FE primes are surely more compact but there are only a few of them. Not every single one is useful for everyone, for instance I don’t like 35mm FOV anyway so 35/2.8 is out of the question for me. I’m more of a 24mm person and I know there is a 35mm Batis coming up but guess what, I can probably buy a slightly used A99 (or a A7+LA-EA4) and a Minolta 24/2.8 for the same price.
The main reason I keep my A7 is that it works with my Canon FD lenses (An adapter for them weighs 100g btw, LA-EA4 is 160g). At the moment I don’t have any FE lenses at all but I’ll probably buy the 16-35/4 and 55/1.8 sometime this year.
“A99 is probably better weather sealed.” – Probably?
“I’ve handled the A7II a few times, it surely feels better in hand than the A7 but it’s not better than A99” – well that’s an opinion and is not related to build quality you were alluding to before.
“And I’m sure the rear AF/AF Lock switch will get sticky in a few months use, just like A7 and Nex 7.” – no such problems here.
“A99 AF is better than LA-EA4” – that really isn’t saying much, and has nothing to do with the A7 II’s native AF.
What good is native AF if you don’t have native lenses?
there is simple solution for the EVF sensitivity in a tiny piece of black sticky tape.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Adjusting-shortening-the-eyepiece-sensor-for-a-Son/
Yeah, done that. Every two months or so I have to give the tape a nudge but this should’ve been addressed by Sony long ago.
Much more solid build ?? Well, the lid´s over the connections are whimsy and bad fitting plastic, no weather sealing at all, and too loose within few times of use.
So is the Multi/mikrotiny USB….not up to the task of tethered shooting !
About wheels, the multi wheel on the back of the cam, used for navigation is by any standards not good at all. No distinct different between scrolling or clicking, so everything becomes scroll-clik-scroll….
Improvements please !
so it’s a good time to reconsider DSLR’s 🙂
Or improve the FE body ergonomics for real 🙂
who ? sony ? 🙂
Yeah, I forgot :). What they call enhancing ergonomics is enlarging the grip on a camera (A7) which was actually designed by adding a grip to another model (RX1).
And here I thought I was the only one that preferred the old wheels.
Me too – they feel cheap coming from an a7. The extended grip is nice, but it’s not like the old style grip is that bad.
The A7 and A7II are both perfectly fine. Moan moan moan…
If they are perfectly fine, Sony should close the whole R&D department. There is always room for improvement.
Most cameras are perfectly fine. It isn’t odd that users wanting something new wants something new and improved.
I’m ready for a Sony camera. Just announce them already.
I was hoping for 4k video and better battery life for stills, but I’m at the point I’ll take what they release.
Why a7rii, a7sii and a8 when all I want is a cheap a3000 changed to ff a3, just put a 18MP or 24MP ff sensor in something like the a3000 (just get the ultra cheap ff on the market).
‘tsup guys?
I slept the day..
you missed nothing, as usual. we’ll wake you up when uh… september ends.
View to Canon Japan avoids the number 8. Therefore I mean it comes not a a8 and much less if a high focus product like a 50 MB cam . You write in older post the 50 MP cam has the name a9, that’s in my view likelier.
Example the canon powershot- Canon not release a G4 or G8:
,,Aus kulturellen Gründen wurde die Produktnummer G4 übersprungen,,
,,Aus kulturellen Gründen wurde die Produktnummer G8 übersprungen.,,
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_Powershot_G-Reihe
Sony had the A850 and Nikon the D8X0 series and the Leica M8 (Gernan though) was a big success. So an A8 is not impossible
850, 800, 810 is not 8.
Leica as you wrote is not Japanese.
Fair enough, Panasonic is coming up with a GX8 very soon. The only unlucky numbers I’ve heard of in Japan is 4, 43 and 13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_superstitions
When the camera a8 release as a a850 or a810 or a870 or a811 and so on- it comes, but not as a a8
Well, we will be all highly disappointed if the name for a new FE 50mpx+ camera from Sony won’t be labeled A8… I was already getting attached to that name.
Funny as they sell the LA-EA4. Panasonic make the GH4.
Japanese and German seem to like odd numbers more – 3,5,7,9.
Sony use Minolta numbering scheme. 3 is lower cost family oriented camera. 5 is family thing that can be used by budget enthusiast, 7 is advanced enthusiast lighter weight model, 9 is advanced pro model.
This said Minolta did release 8 series cameras now and then e.g. 8000i
And 4 series and a few 6 series and 2 series. 1 series also.
Minolta is so cool, specially that mount of theirs.
I am not at all interested in a 36mp camera but am interested in the a8.
A 300-600 f5.6 at about $3000 would be a highly usefull addition to the system.
I hope the a8 comes out soon so I can use it this season.
The new 90mm macro would be a good match for the a8.
Didnt you post a while back, that you have switched to Nikon?….
No…I said I bought 2 new Nikon cameras, I did not say I switched.
I now have the option of buying future equipment for either system.
My new long lens will be for the Nikon becaise no acceptable….to me….long lens is made for Sony. That was the reason for the purchase.
As for macro I can go either way…I have some good macros in A mount, and I like the new FE 90mm macro, but as of now I have not decided to purchase an E mount camera.
My other choice is to get the Tamron either for the Nikon or A mount…if I get a macro for Nikon I will then phase out my Sony stuff
If I phase out my Sony A mount stuff I can say it the way Sony does…” I plan to fully support my A mount system” …( thats Sony language for no new A mount stuff and gradually phase A mount out)
Please fix a7II viewfinder optics. Not nearly as even focused as a99 or a7R. I get sharp viewfinder al over a99 and a7R. But my a7II seems closer to my NEX7, with sharp center and smeary corners, or sharp corners and smeary center. Can’t have both with a7II.
Rangefinder!!! full frame – e mount weather sealed and still small enough to fit in my pocket (with a pancake 35mm f1.4 of course).
Wait–so they’re coming up with two FE cameras and neither of them is a follow-up to the crippled a7s? After 28 years I’m finally about to give up on Sony cameras.
The crippled A7s is still holding its price pretty well in the used market which shows a lot of demand for it.
Sure. And half an eye is better than no eye at all. But it’s still half an eye. They put a great sensor in a camera so tiny it requires an external recorder that doubles the price and triples the size.
Yet is still smaller, lighter and cheaper than any other 4K video camera with its sensor size. In fact it still the only 4K video camera of its sensor size…
Yes, and that’s why it’s a shame they crippled it by putting it in a body that couldn’t handle it. You can’t put a v12 in a Pinto. Even an a99-sized body could have done something brilliant with that great sensor. Coulda/woulda/shoulda
I guess you would have made something much better, because your a verified expert because you have an Internet connection.
If it’s too small for you, just get a good battery grip. If anything, battery life on the Sony cameras is dismal, so you solve too problems in one purchase. That said, the A7s is a breakthrough camera, with some issues, probably solved with the A7s ii, coming sometimes this year, as Sony sure could use the sales.
Agreed on the grip, however the battery implementation sucks. It should be a larger Grip sized battery stuffed in there rather than double the lackluster FW50 batts. Olympus nailed the grip issue with the best digital camera design to date their E1 system.
Maybe it should be a single large battery, rechargable all by itself. Solar? One could hope.
I agree they should use the same battery as A-mount
Larger body, larger battery. The GH4 has a decent battery and it’s still relatively small in the grand scheme of things. But I do like the fact that the FW-50 is also used in the RX-10.
I would buy a A99 with the same senor in a heart beat!
I dont have a problem with a7s as it is but it (the 12 mp sensor) seems to be very underutilised. Surely an a mount 4k cam that doesn’t require the Atomos accessory to shoot 4k or even tweeking the sensor for a high frame sports camera would be useful to a company that has publicly said this is a sensor that doesn’t go beyond Sony cameras. I would rather see this as the next a mount camera if there is ever going to be one and they can stick a 150mp sensor inside the a8 or a9 for all I care.
Sony should have offered the recorder too, and at a reasonable price to boot. Even the A7R, whilst recording HD video, will overheat after 5 minutes under the right conditions, never had an issue with the A7S doing that though. I’m thinking the video implementation/tech is advancing in dog years (read: months) and we’re getting kit that’s actually Beta kit. I’ll take that rather that playing the waiting (and waiting) game like I did over at Canon…………..and don’t get me started on Nikon with their near useless AIS mount (for video).
Bullocks
Hmmm… How do two morons both misspell Bollocks? Maybe if they’re the same moron abusing different accounts?
Actually it was an auto correct.
‘crippled’ = bullocks
Great argument! So well thought out! So well expressed. Troll.
The troll here is you champ. Care to explain ‘crippled’ in regards to the A7S?
Sure. To which fake account of yours should address it to, Troll?
I know you have difficulty counting past 1, but feel free to address it to my one and only account thanks.
If you had disagreed respectfully and made a respectful argument/and/or question I would have been delighted to go over the problems many of us have had with the a7s. But you did none of those things. You came out guns blazing, buckaroo. Because you’re low class. So goodbye and good luck, Troll.
Hahaha so you’ve got nothing but hyperbole. Well done Internet warrior. Those of us who actually do own and use the camera are very happy indeed. Keep saving your pocket money, they will have the mk IX by the time you actually go to buy one anyway.
Ah, you got me! Good for you! You said something so asinine I had to go back to the well one more time. I think what you meant to say at the beginning of this was, “actually I’m quite happy with my a7s. It does everything I want it to”. But seriously, since you didn’t even have an argument beyond a vague misuse of the word “hyperbole”, I leave you to pee all over the internet like only a good troll can. Who raised you?
Ps That was a rhetorical question. I’m sure she’s suffered enough. See you in the funny papers, sociopath!
Funny when thinking about who raised you, crippled is exactly the word that springs to mind.
Anybody using the word “asinine” immediately looses the argument. 😉
You can’t make a sarcastic remark about an argument, or lack of, when you didn’t bother to make the effort yourself from the outset.
Radio silence from here on out.
U started with a very troll-ish comment and 0 facts or opinions to back up your claim. STFU with this garbage. How’s that for well thought out and expressed?
Thank you.
Where’s the A9? We don’t need A8
Where is the A10 ? We don’t need A9.
Here it is.
and it shots at 50 to 70 fps 😉
And makes low light situations suddenly very bright.
That laser AF tracking system really does wonders too. 😉
But the shutter sound and shake is a problem.
No electronic viewfinder 🙁
HUD display combines the best of both worlds.
Something is definitely coming some time within the next 10 years.
Agreed.
I don’t know dude. This a9 or what ever TF it is has been coming for eons. It may well be another decade.
I vote for better ergonomics for A8, more powerful battery and fully articulated screen. But all this high megapixels… I just migrated from Canon to Sony FE and I suppose Sony hi-res cameras also strongly needs possibility to save raw shots in lower than sensor resolutions. Like sRaw1 and sRaw2 in Canons. Probably in nearest future we’ll have about hundred megapixels on FF sensor and additional resolution dial to select how many you needed at the moment ).
Since you have their ear. Why not ask them what they intend to do to fix the color and resolution problems that plague Sony’s mirrorless line ?
I believe that the color issue is part of the mirrorless technology and will probably only be solved when new sensor technologies are implemented.
color issue?
Yes, but I think only those using full frame Sony cameras like the A900 or the A99 will know what I’m talking about.
So what IS the colour issue?
The issues are legion on these (albeit very cool) little A7 cameras, this isn’t one of them that requires immediate attention. I’d put the non-locking eyepiece diopter adjuster (make it lock like a D700 FFS) way above this. Its interesting, you can tell right off the bat, who’s trolling and who’s actually using this kit, ANTON/KATSU is a troll, he offers nothing productive to the mix. Now, lets start a proper list of stuff that needs addressing: I’ll start with a locking eyepiece diopter adjuster like a D700 and throw in a locking eyepiece surround like a D800 has. See ANTON/KATSU, two Nikon features there for you.
BTW, the best still camera on the market, the 5D3 suffers from exactly the same poor non-locking diopter adjuster design & non-locking eyepiece as the A7’s.
Ah, so it’s Anton. No wonder.
Anton is a god
According to who sweetie, Lloyd Chambers. 😉
I shoot with my eyes closed. Diopter problem solved.
Please enlighten us. Seriously.
We’ve discussed it to death here I guess, the quality of greens, oversaturation of purples, and the beauty of browns, much related to skin tones. Theses look much better on the A900, a little less on the A99, but still seriously pretty, and a little video-y on any camera without a mirror that I have used, most notably on the GH4, but not excluding Sony’s own offering.
Out of >200k A7R frames I’ve not seen it, and by direct comparison said A7R frames look every bit as good as 10 years plus of Canon frames.
Its the RAW compression he’s referring to (a non-issue 99.99999999% of the time BTW) you can select the same compression on the D800’s. Ask him for examples of where Sony’s compression ruined **his files** (he don’t got none)!
I’d buy a D800E in a heartbeat, if it had a clean video signal and audio worthy of an iPhone. Maybe, instead of throwing rocks over at the Sony glasshouse you’d be serving your own self-interest/user group by getting your guys in Tokyo fix theirs first! Just sayin’ It’s the 21st century, this is a three ring circus now; stills/video & audio. Oh, and while you’re at it, give ZEISS a call, ask them why their OTUS still looks crap compared to Panasonic’s little 42.5mm portrait lens, that Panny is a beautiful little lens, your OTUS looks like a bag of Onion Rings in the OOF areas by comparison. Shall we continue with your nonsense?
FYI: Katsu Nakamaura is our own Anton Berlin of the 11+7 fame
The identity may change but Sony’s problems remain the same.
What, now you’re talking crap in Haiku……..
Hmmm…. The A8 got me interested. Sadly, I really do not need such a high megapixel count. Though it could sway me if a more articulate screen or touch screen is provided! Do hope the announcement of the A7s II is imminent.
the sony lineup is compelling, they clearly intend on owning the digital photo universe, but their lineup is utterly totally mishmashed and confusing, progress i guess, just give me the rx1 replacement
I still believe that the 50MP sensor will be in A-mount camera first not E-mount
Maybe the two FF E-mount will be A7RII and a lower budget small FF E-mount (maybe A5)
I agree. An e-mount FF (w/ kit lens) under $1k to get other brand users to jump ship.
Yeah, but once they realize it has no dual card slots, touch screen and are stuck with sloppy lossy files they’ll jump again. No fast big boy 1.4’s..no sigma art lenses…no telephoto primes…no 2.8 bread and butter 70-200 and 24-70. If you really have an itch and can only scratch it with 1k you probably won’t be buying any more lenses anyway.
The sony e-mount is for artsy hipsters with beards (goatees for those who cant grow one), tattoos, and vintage lenses.
They dont care about the above. They will use converters along with the glass from thier old film cameras, and shove it all in a worn leather man purse… 🙂
The “rangefinder style” e mount isnt for everyone, and shouldnt be compared to mirrored cameras, nor do i belive are they designed to replace them. Sigma already stated that they plan on making bright lenses for emount in the future.
I tried to give your comment 10 upvotes straight but disqus won’t let me do it.
No they will be wasting a potential winner sensor in a camera no one will buy…will definitely be FE mount.
True .. E-mount is selling way much better than A-mount
But Sony need to pull people hesitating to buy an E-mount because once they try it they will be comitted
theyve hired the the top 3 of worlds strongest man to push e mount, and left a mount to mr burns to push
Well, what are the chances that a 50MP FE could compete with Canon’s offering. They’ve got themselves quite a piece of refined machinery over their. Not to mention a massive selection of native lenses to match that 3K plus camera with. It would also be competing with their much more sensible A7RII we know is coming- probably 36MP again.
When you get to that price, I’d pick the refined D810 despite lower res or new canon. Lossy files? Just that thought alone is a pass at that price point. It makes more sense to shove it in the A99II- better selection of lenses including third parties.
I think it’ll be A- mount. Just saying:)
I forgot about lens selection .. true.
also the new 24-70 and 16-35 A-mount refreshments .. maybe they will be able to resolve the 50MP sensor resolution.
I guess it’s a hint that 50MP will be an A-mount not E
Both are SSMII I believe. Not sure what value that has with a 50MP sensor, but it would make complete sense if we get a revised FF A77II like AF system.
Agree 100%.
Try manual focusing a 5D3 (or newer) with Canon’s very own 50 f/1.2 @ f/2 on a tight portrait. Now, get your EOS-FE adaptor, and repeat on your A7 @ f/2 (setting effect ON) and its suddenly easy.
Experienced Canon shooters will know exactly what I’m referring to here, for our special child Anton/Katsu, it’s called focus shift, and a great many quality lenses suffer from it.
It’s the little things that Sony are addressing that are drawing working photographers into the fold!
you may know that A mount cameras like A77II and A99 use same lossy RAW
I became aware of this last week. What I’ve heard is the last camera to not do so was the A900. Such a shame, but I can live with it for now.
Want a GOOD Nikon with a decent file, get a used D3S or D700. The D810 is a toy by comparison, uselessly inaccurate viewfinder for manual focus, recessed eyepiece, and junk ergonomics compared to a D700 too.
Really? You’re the second guy I’ve ran into who says they prefer the D700 this past week. Maybe I should grab one and try it out.
Nikon have had a few home-runs then lost the plot: F2, FA, F100, FM3A, F700.
Woah, talk by yourself on this friendo. Don’t you forget that there are many more A-mount users than E-mount.
Ah dust covered A Mount cameras sitting in photo stores would suggest otherwise.
They are now, but remember which mount is been around for more time. A new flagship A-mount camera is lurking in the Sony’s R&D division, just wait and see.
Unless the shutters in the new FE cameras are significantly quieter than the one in the A7R, I’ll just hang on to my A7. I don’t need to wake the dead every time I take a photograph.
“I don’t need to wake the dead every time I take a photograph.”
Who are you? The damn James Bond? That’s some serious boolsheet.
Maybe you like turning every head within a 100 ft radius when you press the shutter, but I’d rather not.
Are you shooting with a camera or with a firearm? The way you talk it seems that every time you take a picture your camera ejects an empty shell.
Clearly you either haven’t heard the shutter on the A7R or you don’t care about calling attention to yourself when you shoot in public.
Use a damn iPhone then.
No thanks. I’d much rather use my A7. Quieter than the A7R and a much better camera than an iPhone.
No thanks, I’d much rather use my A7. Quieter than an A7R and a vastly better camera than an iPhone.
A7 shutter are not quite either
I suggest RX1 for FF, GR for APSC
A7s for street shooting with silent shutter mode. 12mp is plenty unless printing big.
i beg for silent shutter option. But on my last shooting i talk about that with my model. SHe says that it’s nice for to hear the shutter sound, ti’s like to be “in control”. I agree with her, it’s some kind of communication. But in street photography silent shutter he’s HUGE!! ON travel too, to get more natural shots
Or A7S.
The A7 is better than an IPhone camera?! No šhït.
A matter of taste. I love the HMG sound of my a900. I almost feel the recoil.
😀
There’s too much recoil in those cameras these days. That’s why I only take pictures with my iPhone but only in silent mode, I don’t want to be deafened by that ridiculous fake shutter sound.
I would find it quite funny to awaken the dead everytime ii press the shutter. It would create some quite spectacular, but maybe stressful, urban landscapes. 🙂
Zombie photography is all the rage these days.
Let’s machine gun them with the A77 and the A77II.
Kill ’em all!
Cool shot, and a sense of humor.
That is hilarious.
Imagine what would happen if you attempted some street photography with that device.
I’m sure i would get some very good “shots”.
Lol never laugh that much in the history of SAR.
A8 shutter going to be twice as loud as A7R and 4 times as loud as A7II. It will wake the dead….
Bollocks. I own both the A7R and A7S. When I set the A7S to EFCS, it
sounds exactly like the A7, and that’s not particularly quiet. Just as
loud as the A7R, but a little bit shorter noise. If you really are
depending on a quiet camera, as you pretend to be, you should buy a A7S
or RX1/RX1R.
Whatever happens, I hope that the shutter shock issue of the A7r gets fixed. That is the one thing that has kept me back from trying the Sony sensor with my current stable of Canon lenses for tripod-based landscape and macro. 36 or 50 MP – don’t care – I just am curious to see for myself how much the increased DR vs Canon sensors (6D). And tilt screen is nice – I liked the Canon 60D implementation, which is great for high tripod and for ground shots.
Abmin
In a recent interview…I dont remember where I read it….a Sony rep said he was having some difficulty putting the af module from the a77ii into the new laea6 adapter due to the large size of the protrusion necessarry to make the adapter for ff sensor.
He also suggested it might be better to use an adapter without the mirror module.
Does this mean possibly that Sony will make both an laea6 with mirror and an laea5 without the mirror?
lol barry, maybe they ‘ll probably do like for LA-EA3 ( without mirror) and LA-EA4 ( with mirror). But if they put the A7ii in the next LA-EA adapters it will explain why they delay so much the release of new A mount camera
I wonder why LA-EA3 which has electronic contacts doesnt allow to use on sensor AF system of E mount camera which is more efficent than the A65 alike from LA-EA4. They should make a real adapter which doesnt use the A-mount AF system but ADAPT E mount one with A mount lenses
If they make a mirrorless laea5 adapter it would have to allow better autofocus than the laea3 or there would be no reason for the upgrade.
The mirror version will supposedly be called laea6.
Go look two posts down at the last tidbit post, but I assume that’s you got the info for your post.
FF A8 in ringefinder style? I am in!
The A8 rumor just doesn’t sound right. Sony and Zeiss have been throwing around the word “pro”, so an A9 would make more sense. That said, maybe they haven’t been able to meet A9 objectives, such as top SLR autofocus speed and accuracy.
I’d rather see A88 and A99II
Agree with you 100%
‘tsup guys?
mine a7 enjoying warranty time hole week and i have a lot of time to hate sony and thinking of 6D + 24-105… fuсk the weight 🙂 it’s Canon… and works.
Can always tell one who has ESL…
Like the 750D/760D ‘works’?
I am a long long time trusted source, and I’m telling you that 50+mp body is called RS8 not A8
Like Audi?
I’m in love…..with my A77II.
Lotus Eater = A paid Sony Rep after carefully looking at all of his comments. Please ignore all of his over the top positive/ Sony can do no wrong / No Sony Camera has any issues / Comments.Thanks.
You are wrong. A Sony Rep would never choose a name like that….
In Greek mythology a “Lotus-eater” was basically what you call a junkie….
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus-eaters
Wrong.
And no, I do critisise Sony when/where necessary.
Totaly agree with the need for a smaller sRaw like capture setting. I love my a7r. But do not always need the 36mp files…
Can your Sony do this ?
https://sonyvnikon.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/high-desert.jpg
What? Give blurry corners? Need a Nikon for that.
Looks like Fujifilm Jpeg quality.
do what? shoot photos thousands of people shot before? show me something impressive because resolution doesnt make a good picture.
Taking forever to open…I hope it’s worth it.
Don’t see what your suggesting… Not very sharp at 100%…
I think my phone can do this.
‘tsup guys? it’s raining here
What do you think about a new Sony RX1?
@ Katsu Namamura
very nice pic, excellent shot, I like it!
7440×3822 @450dpi, that goes for 54MP based on 300dpi and 7440pixels…. hmmm 🙂
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-54-megapixel-2/
To answer your question; No, my Sony can’t do this 🙁
May I ask you if your Sony did this?
They used the new Canon 50 mpx.
does the 50mpx camera come w/free tripod permanently fixed to the camera?
A9 58MPX camera Titanium body, weather sealed MSRP $4,399 Available 12/5/15.
You had me until $4,399.
I hope Sony introduces touch screen on A7II. there is so much to improve, but Sony should dump everything unnecessary. like 2 jack ports and have one for all. bigger battery is needed and everything should be as good as iphone. Quiet, fast, reliable. touch screen guys please….. at least pinch to zoom … Last thing if sony introduces 50mp+ body, someone should figure out new format and shrink the size of the images.
Show and tell. From my a7R through an Elmar 135 4. It was dark 15 minutes later:
http://carnagepro.com/photo/a7R/arrowsmithFF.jpg
‘tsup guys? the rain stopped (i guess)… too lazy to check out.
I too would love a Sony A5 with a good pancake! 🙂
Although we have to be realistic. I’d settle for a 35mm f/2. 😉
They should use the same battery as A-mount
gotta have tri-navi though
this is gossip, there is no such a thing. 1/50 with 55mm: https://www.flickr.com/photos/48781213@N02/17204348889/in/dateposted-public/
1/20 is there would be such a thing that king of shoot would be impossible. Maybe the only thing is thatu have most of the be more careful about the speed but it’s not coming from shutter shock, same story with d800. I DO hate such info, waste of time.
That is because shutter shock is between 1/125 and 1/250.
There is a shutter shock on all A7R cameras. We’re all waiting for the fix.
damn quiet interesting, but this one 1/250: https://www.flickr.com/photos/48781213@N02/17435674681/in/dateposted-public/
no blur at all
Really?! I mean, REALLY?!
You can say that by looking at that overprocessed, mostly out of focus image?!
Btw I did see the blurring, check the rail edges and fine details. There is nothing sharp in that image.
lol your eyes needs IS i guess lol
When is this “event”? It’s like 11a.m. in Sydney
They did not display the new cameras today. They will next week.
lets see
“soon there will a full moon”
this is a rumor or just pointing the obvious
that make a trusted source?
also i hear that maybe we get an eclipse, but not available worldwide, its just a rumor, take it with a grant of salt and two shots of tequila
pd
not kidding, “(SR4) Sony A7r successor is coming very soon (already in production)”, 2 months later its downgraded to SR3, that dont look good
so…
It’s not downgraded. The new rumor is form a new source that’s why it’s SR3!
The trusted source was always right. But oviously don’t know if Sony somewhat delayed the launch for some reason. Anyway, the A7rII is now coming and I am happy we will nto have to “rumor” about it anymore 🙂
wait so it’s confirmed or?
It’s also a song by Swedish prog metal legends, Opeth. 😉
No info about an A7S mk2?
I believe the A7S is still selling very well, so I wouldn’t expect Sony to rush the MkII.
Thanks, unfortunately the A7s is a really good camera but is not perfect.
No internal 4k and max 60fps in fhd or 120fps in hd :/
And those who do internal 4K or higher frame rates suck in low light. Just pick your poison. Trying to find a camera that excels in everything is a chase for the unicorn.
This is exactly my problem :/
I want to upgrade, but I can’t find the perfect camera
50MP a8 yes please.
rangefinder style is the key word
What’s your second language?
What if… A FE camera with a NEX 7 body? Just wishful thinking…