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What we can “hope” to get on April 23 (RX1-X and RX100m4?)

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Sony has a scheduled press briefing on Thursday April 23. And Wikileaks hinted that new RX and A7 and A6xxx cameras would be announced within April and June. So far this is what we can hope to get soon:

To be announced on April 23?
– RX1-X camera (specs unclear but likely a FF camera with 35mm f/1.8 Zeiss lens).
– RX100m4 (20MP Four Thirds sensor camera with 4K recording)

To be announced in May?
– A7rII (36Mp, 5 axis and same A7II body improvements)
– A6xxx (24MP APS-C sensor and 3 or 5 axis stabilization).

P.S.: A-mount news (camera and lenses) will follow in August/September?

By the way. Also the Sony Canada marketing roadmap seems to confirm there will be new cameras. Their RX (late April) and Alpha (mid May) campaign would match those announcements.

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  1. “A-mount news (camera and lenses) will follow in August/September?”

    Do you have solid information, or is this a wild guess?

    1. There is not gonna be a A-mount anymore. Sony now try to win the 100 yard final by starting 20 yards behind the others

      1. Actually after many many months of silence I just started to get first “whispers” about a new A-mount FF cam.

        1. Sounds very reasonable. I always repeated that the A99 was too young to be replaced. End of this year it becomes 3 years old.
          If they would have released something last year, it would just have been a slight evolved A99. With granting 3 to 4 years to the R&D they could come up with a completely new camera.

          1. ^^ There is no guarantee this is an A99 replacement. For all we know it could be a 50 MP sensor camera that Sony prices at $3k or whereabouts.

          2. Of course there is no guarantee until the official announcement.

            Placing a new camera above the current A mount top dog was rumored quite a while. Could be reasonable, too.
            Leaving the A99 as the entry FF in A mount, and placing the pro model above.
            Let’s see

        2. I would be completely satisfied by not having the top-A-mount with 50MPix sensor, but maybe a A88 (or whatever they will call it) with the current (or slightly improved) A7r sensor. But with fast AF, A-mount and a body for large hands…. it’s like with the a900/a850, 2nd in line is just right….

      2. Looks like A mount is dead for entry level, because there are so many reasons to switch to Emount in the long run. But you look at FF and enthusiat/semipro APS-C releases, it does not really seem that A mount is already dead, actually:

        FF:
        2nd-Mar-2012: Canon 5Dmk3
        12th-Sep-2012: Sony A99
        17th-Sep-2012: Canon 6D

        high-price APS-C:
        2nd-Jul-2013: Canon 70D
        1st-May-2014: Sony A77 II
        15-Sep-2014: Canon 7Dmk2

        1. You left out the D5500, D7200, D610, D810 and D750. Why no 36mp on the A mount when it’s clearly the best 35mm sensor Sony makes? Instead it goes to E mount.

  2. ” Alpha Capture the Impossible ” campaign reminds me the statement from Canon ” See Impossible ” campaign… Sony want to make fun of Canon 😉 ? Wish Sony the best especially brand new camera 🙂 Some kind of APS-C camera which shot in the dark like A7s but with 24 Mpx ( the new technology they talked about last year about 10 times more of sensitivity) to make paparazzi replace their big Canikon camera by easier to handle ones;)… Let’s see impossible come true:)

  3. Poor Sony, and many rich Sony FF fans, there are other people who can not afford any of Sony’s FF camera’s and those expensive lenses, so where does Sony go from here !! only for those who can afford FF ?? IMO it’s suicide. Again this confirm that the A-mount is slowly dying. and Sony permit it.

  4. Let’s have a quick reflexion. Why some people (pro and non pro) are switching to Sony A7 family from Nikon or Canon. For cheaper you have a smaller body with modern features, a good image quality and the possibility to fit a large panel of lens .
    Let’s imagine that Sony will release a new A-mount camera. It can’t be a low end or middle end camera because this market is lead by Nex family, A6000, A5000. So we can assume that the target for a new a-mount is the high end but here’s the problem. And this problem is already known by Sony. For the same price and size Canikon users won’t switch to a new system that requires to rebuy all the material that the already own. It’s just my opinion but I think Sony will not work again in the A-mount and for me the best strategy is to keep a unique mount and decline all the product range. We seen that sony released Professional camcorder in e-mount.

    1. I am an A-mount user, but I really hope that instead of releasing FF A-mount, they would release A9/s/r and couple more high end lenses for E, and perhaps a better SLT adapter.

      It seems that their strategy now is not to compete IN dslr market (against C&N), but rather AGAINST dslr market. And that does make a sense.

      1. I am an E-mount user and there is a lot I am really jealous to A-mounters:
        1. Lack of lenses (miss an outdoor tele like SAL70400G2)
        2. Slow autofocus (except A6000 in perfect conditions)
        3. Lack of lenses (miss a 24-70/f2.8)
        4. no clear concept, if IS in in body or in lens
        5. Lack of lenses (miss a AF 35mm/f1.8 with 50mm in dimensions)
        6. battery life (A99-battery into A7ii)
        7. Lack of lenses (miss reasonable prices AF-lenses from Sigma/Tamron/others)

        Adapter? Is only a workaround, makes the cam/lens-combi more wiggly and bulky and the advantages of the mirrorless system are then gone.

    2. Until the AF, UI and ergonomics improve, the A7 series is still a second system to many users, myself included. On my D750 I can make all the adjustments needed while never diving into menus. Even if I need to change something the menus are far more logically organized. The A7 is a hot mess.

      I love how admin is stringing along A mount users after all, last year was the “Year of the Alpha”

  5. Poor you, due to camera market trends, Sony can no longer afford to produce low end cameras and lenses with little or no profit.

    1. Well that’s strange, ALL other brands can still do it and produce ENOUGH entry level camera’s for the beginner photographer !!!!!

      1. If another company has a product you desire, why don’t you choose that instead of being angry with Sony not producing what you want?

          1. Sony has several major hurdles to enter the PRO domain. Once they fix astigmatism, 11+7 bit color and offer a better EVF and live view without shutter shock + better WB accuracy then it will take a generation or 2 as pros invested in Canon and Nikon will rarely switch. After a week of shooting Nikon, I only used the A7r for comps at which it always sorely lacked compared to the D810.

      2. Also, there are crazy deals on A6000 and A5100 lens (single, double, triple) kits right now. New A7 can be obtained for close to 1k$. A77ii is also insane value for the money.
        Your problem is that you actually want the high end cameras and lenses, yet you want them to be cheap. That will not happen in a way you dream.

      3. Sure! & they’re all s%$ & sell poorly!!

        Anyone who works in a camera store can tell you (my sales assistant did!) that starting right now (actually as of months or maybe even years ago), all the money is in enthusiast & pro cams. Period.

  6. RX100 m4 needs to be everything the LX100 was and more. Particularly, I am hoping for a better EVF, tiltable touch screen, mic and headphone jacks. Also, these RX series cameras are really screaming to be weather sealed. This quality, at least for me, would make it an instant buy. Too bad it seems Sony never wants to bring true weather sealing to any of its higher-end cameras.

  7. Whispers can’t stop panic. On the other hand, those who wanted jumped the ship already so the A mount is safe and well alive.

  8. ~But Sony does come with a large range of entry level APS-C cameras. All these cameras are in the E-mount series. You can have the incredibly cheap A3000, that looks like an DSLR ou havethe A5000, a small camera that hase a lot of potential. You can have the A5100, a small camera with fast AF, or the A6000, a bit larger then the A5000, but with EVF and some nice extras. All these camera are in the “entry level” to mid range group.
    The only thing Sony is skipping is an entry level DSLR (or DSLT) camera. This type of cameras is completely owned by Canon and Nikon. Over 95% of the sold DSLRs are Canon or Nikon, the rest is devided between Pentax and Sony. that is not a lot anymore…The DSLR market is shrinking, in the mean time the mirrorless market is slowly growing.

    1. If one is interested in nature / animal pictures and so on, the E-mount lenses are not good enough for long distance.

  9. I really hope Sony isn’t just going for “innovation” by sticking a 50mp sensor in the rx1. I’m sure a few will buy, but really what we need now is a photographer’s camera with all the great tech sony has been releasing. Rx1 with some kind of an EVF or just oriented to be more like a fuji x100 rather than a really cool piece of tech. One can hope :/. I’d gladly drop $3k, but i want a camera that works with me on taking good images by being the least in the way. I’m guessing its the reason Leica digital rangefinders are still even alive.

    1. I hope so too. An improved 24MP will be more than enough. This is what I was waiting for but who knows what to expect.

      If it’s the curved sensor then I recall reading somewhere that it won’t be a high MP count. Let’s wait and see.

  10. Assuming Sony is the world sensor leader I would also assume they would like that situation to continue.
    So while others are already making ff 50mp and apsc bsi 28mp, we are still looking at mayby a 36mp exmor in the a7ii.
    We should be seing a FF 78mp exmor r sensor by now.
    BSI is very well suited to the smaller pixels and increased sensitivity needed for higher resolution.
    Also we should see full high speed autofocus compatability with other lens systems…whether it means new adapters and/or new on sensor focus systems.
    One very obvious solution is build a super high res camera just for still pictures.
    78mp is of no use for video or wi fi.
    By eliminating the other stuff Sony can concentrate…for this one camera…on only stuff related to the very best still pictures…capable of extreme enlargement.

    Fast focus, yes
    Extreme resolution, yes
    Compact, video, wi fi, backscratcher, shoe polisher, no

    1. Have you heard of the whole “One Sony” deal, where they share tech across divisions? For that reason alone, I don’t see this happening.

      & then, according to the rumor mill, canon may well be doing just that with the 5D, ie one version for stills & one for video. If so, how is this move you propose classified as “leading”..?

      1. My point is that Sony is losing the lead and has currently lost it in several sensor areas.
        Samsung uses a 28mp bsi apsc sensor…Sony has nothing to compete with.
        Canon has a 50mp sensor, Sony currently has nothing to compete with..as well as a 120mp H size sensor they like to show off on special occasions.
        Sony has taken the position of trying to do the bare minimum necessarry to keep ahead , rather than trying to innovate and lead.
        Since Sony has the most capacity of anyone to advance sensor technology, the fact that they are not more aggressively doing so has hampered sensor development industry-wide.

  11. I have a Nikon and Sony. And I prefer the Sony A7ii. Thanks to the 14 configurable buttons. And with FN button you can access to 12 shorcuts that you can configure at your needs.
    Yes the menu on the Sony is not so graphic/simple than the Nikon but when all is configured for my need It’s very rare than I return on the menu. I just use my personalized buttons.

    1. Still can’t adjust the volume of the microphone when shooting video without heading into the menus, can’t reassign the video record button to do anything while shooting stills, can’t use the shutter for anything while shooting video, no custom WB with SLOG in the A7s, can’t easily switch between EVF and LCD, can’t change the minimum shutter with auto ISO, etc….

      All of the above require you to menu dive and and stop shooting. On the D750 I can do all that and more without touching the menus. And all the video functions are grouped together, all of the stills functions are grouped together. Sony has a lot to learn about usability.

  12. Was just comparing with Canon only. Compared to Nikon, both Sony-A and Canon sucks in terms of announcments. And it’s funny – A-mount-users are moarning about a dying system, Canon-users don’t.

    About Nikon: despite the fact, that there have been so many Nikons released, there is no one to challenge 7Dmk2 in terms of AF-speed and fps. And the big-boys D810/D750 are still a bit behind that old 5Dmk3 in terms of AF and high-ISO noise. Having many releases does not mean you find a perfect camera.

    I strongly expect having 36mp in the next A-mount FF – but current 24 is still more than Canon 5D3 🙂

    1. But the A99 AF is behind the 5d3, the A99’s video is absolute rubbish compared to the 5d3, A99 has a smaller buffer, and it’s a newer camera. Just like the A900, Sony is way behind with A-mount.

    2. Funny. The 5Diii clearly is mot better in high ISO noise, DR and AF compared to the D750. The 7Dii is a pretty recent release, which Nikon certainly counters. The D7200 is not meant as an opponent )although in terms of IQ it certainly is).

  13. I hope a Slog-2 100mbps 4K on RX100Mk4 with m4/3 sensor. With this specs KILL all other manufacters! I hope sony GO GO.

  14. It’s so funny how the mythical A-Mount cameras just keep being pushed further and further out in time….
    Eerily, it’s almost as if they don’t exist and the name just gets bandied about to dangle like a carrot in front of those who spend a lot of money on A-mount lenses so that they won’t jump ship.
    Quite eerie that.

  15. If it’s a video-optimized cam with micro 4/3 sensor I’ll get one in a heartbeat. Has to have microphone and headphone jack, 5-axis stabilization, full-sensor read-out for video, PDAF, and constant aperture lens.

  16. I want the RX10 successor to be video-optimized with micro 4/3 sensor. 50-200mm f/2.8 fixed lens. Microphone and headphone jack, 5-axis IBIS, full-sensor read-sensor readout,

      1. Yes, I want to start at 50mm at the wide end. I prefer 50mm compression and I prefer far distances from the subject. 50mm looks very natural to me.

        1. Well, in such a case, it’s going to be a flop on arrival. It will be a dedicated closeup video camera, Too niche of a market.
          I guess good luck with that… 😉

        2. I have to agree with Stan, it should start at 24mm. If the sensor size necessitates focal distance changes to maintain constant 2.8, a 24-135mm would work well you can get moderate wide shots to nice close ups in that range.

  17. A7S’s 12Mp sensor is clearly the best 35mm sensor Sony makes.
    36Mp is slow, and would be more suitable for the slow mirrorless cameras.
    The 12Mp ultra low light sensor + A Mount = reportage speed monster!

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