Sony will launch their first Full Frame E-mount photocameras on October 16. And it looks like Sony’s goal was to price the new cameras as low as it gets! Here are some info:
The A7 has 24Mp and on sensor PDAF. It has a built-in EVF (middle of the camera) and is weather sealed. Price should be around 1600-17000 Euro/Dollars for the body and close to 2000 Euro/dollars with the 28-70mm FE kit lens.
The A7r has a 36MP sensor. Like the A7 it has a built-in EVF (middle of the camera) and is weather sealed. price is around 2,300-2,400 Euro/Dollars for the body. No info on the kit price.
The A7 and the A7r have exactly the same look but a different sensor. All current E-mount lenses will work in crop mode on these cameras. The new Full Frame E-mount lenses coming along the camera are the 24-70mm Zeiss (not sure about the aperture but it could be f/2.8), 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5, 35mm f/2.8 Zeiss and a 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss.
It may be that more high end FF E-mount cameras will come in early 2014 already!
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Not exactly “cheap”, but with sealed body and viewfinder are a better option than stupidly priced RX camera. Let´s wait and see lenses,
Ok,
sealed body,
but what about lenses?
Hey, Canon … I told you so!
Excellent news about on sensor PDAF, but the lack of IBIS is a pity. I’ll wait for something that ticks all the boxes.
“Cheap”?
Lower-priced than I would have expected, after seeing the ridiculously high price tag for Sony’s fixed-lens full-frame compact camera, but then again 1600 or 2300 € is still a lot of money, and funny that it’s just about what you actually pay for current full-frame DSLRs (Nikon D600, Canon 6D or D800, 5D Mk III respectively). Which I wouldn’t really call “cheap”, either (not even the D600 and 6D).
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Do you already have heard something about a flagship like A8(r), A9(r) with the IBIS included? The Sony rumour about the purchase of the Olympus 5 Axis IBIS wasn’t true? Why do they not implemented such a great feature, if so? Maybe in early 2014, one or two even higher listed A8 / A9r will follow with IBIS and other features GPS?? Are the new lenses much bigger than other mirrorless lenses from fuji/sony (pana/olympus? What is in terms of portability? I think that is a major issue if you concerning about going to mirrorless and dumping your heavy, bulky dslr system…
What do you think about these issues?
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2.4MP Tilt EVF ?
NO IBIS ? NO Stabilizer AT SENSOR / BODY /STEADY SHOOT? DISPOINTED AND WESTING TIMES
Unstabilized lenses/cameras are useless? Hmmm..
I don’t call it “Cheap” with the lack of these features:-
– No IBIS
– No native auto-focus lenses for this FF mount
– No PDAF in the A7r
Sony wants to become the king of the hill, and with prices in the range of D600 could actually become it. In fact its cameras will be able to use much more legacy lenses than Nikon or Canon, including Leica M lenses and all the manual ones by other producers. For someone starting a system from scratch, it could be the best option, as well as for someone owning old legacy glasses.
No ibis ? It’s a pity….no ibis on mirrorless? No interesting for me. Simply. For now I wait news in Olympus or Panasonic FF.
It’s funny, I like that people prefer IBIS – which is only useful for stationary photos in low light situation – over large sensors and sheer low light performance. The Olympus marketing got your good 😉
IBIS is nice and so is in-lens optical stabilisation, but sure as hell will not beat the sheer flexibility that FF give over m43 and even APS-C.
The A7(r) will be little camera revolutions whether people will like it or not. Many people including myself don’t want to look like war photographers with huge camera bags and big cameras. We want to bring a large sensor camera anywhere, that is why a RX1 and the like are so important for the photography world.
Depends on your definition of flexibility.
I find the flexibility of being able to bring my gear everywhere far more important than some flexibility in low light performance.
I agree. Weight and compactness are important factors to me, which is why the Sony A7(r) is so interesting. It is rumored to be the size the RX1 with the VF hump and grip. This translates to OMD E-M5 size. The 35mm/2.8 Zeiss lens is according to the leaked specs as compact and light as the Olympus 17mm/1.8.
Now, if the Sony A7(r) is not sounding interesting and a bargain next to the OMD E-M1 I do not what will.
If the lenses are high quality, the A7/A7r will blow away any M4/3, including the over-hyped, overpriced OM-D. Who needs image stabilization with any lens wider than 60mm. And, with great high iso performance, it is not an issues – IBIS is necessary for M4/3, as they do not have great high ISO performance.
The only question is whether system will be balanced, as the NEX series lenses are too big for their tiny bodies.
Well, if you don’t like IS, at least with IBIS you only buy it once.
Lack of IBIS is a pity, but IBIS is probably not even possible on FF (within reasonable size). Just imagine how much the sensor would have to shift to correct shake.
Lenses are very disappointing. 35mm f/2.8 hardly gives any advantage over the excellent Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 (both a 12mm aperture). This system should launch with fast 35, 50 and 85mm lenses from day 1.
The upcoming FF Sony Zeiss 35mm/2.8, is equivalent to a 17.5mm/1.4 m43 lens when it comes to FOV and DOF. At the same time it is weather sealed and the almost exact same length and weight(!)
Absolute aperture size is more like 12.5mm, vs 11.8 on the Pana 20mm/1.7. You should compare the Sony Zeiss 35/2.8 with the Oly 17mm/1.8 (9.4mm perture size), with almost the same FOV.
The Pentax 645D and the Sony A99 show that IBIS is possible with large sensors.
Gobet, Pentax 645D doesn’t have IBIS. The most recent lens for that system is optically stabilized, making it the world’s first stabilized medium format lens-body setup. (NONE offer IBIS.)
The 55 f1.8 has no match in terms of fov neither in m4/3 or even in aps-c world…it should be a 36mm f1.2 for aps-c and a 27 f0.something for m4/3.
Voigtländer 25mm 0.95 for m4/3
FF IBIS is possible although it may make the body a little bigger…Well the A99 SLT has IBIS for crying out loud…Put on a classic MF 200mm or longer lens and the argument for IBIS will be louder…SONY!! Please give us IBIS in later models if not now cause I’ll wait for it…disappointed over the highly anticipated SAR news in the last few months over this IBIS thing…
Now please sony make a Fullframe 50mm Noctilux f0.95 with AF for the A7 lineup and you got to the holygrail.
Sony is doing it again, with their confusing product names. A7 and A7r? It’s an E-mount camera not an A-mount, why use the A designation?
Sony really needs to working on their product naming and consistency.
AUGH. Sony, you’re killing me. The entire reason to buy your cameras used to be your excellent IBIS. Why have you stopped doing IBIS?
NEX and RX have never have an IBIS. Ever.
Sony! Y U DO DIS? Why in the middle?
I dont mind the lack of IBIS with a full frame sensor, especially one missing the translucent mirror blocking 15% of the light. Crank the iso up for the shots requiring a faster shutter speed or use a tripod. APS-C sensors are already good enough for 6400iso, i’d expect full frame should be fine going above that…
without IBIS . . . sigh!!