Yesterday we praised the superb 85mm NX lens but epxressed our doubts about Samsung NX system future. Maybe as reaction on that post one of our sources sent us some bits about the possible future Samsung roadmap. He writes:
1) Samsung plans to announce the EX1 successor, two new NX lenses and accessories at Photokina 2012
2) They are working on a new APS-C sensor with improved rolling shutter performance (too early to say “electronic shutter”), but with “normal” megpaixel number (bye be Megapxiel race)
3) There also is a new NX model coming before end of the year, a top line NX.
Sounds good or not?
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Yes, sounds good. Very good, actually 🙂 Though I would be surprised to see yet another NX at Photokina; would expect it not earlier than beginning of next year.
sounds good!
Imagine a stunning 12MP sensor with fabulous noise-free images and large Dynamic Range… that’s what 99% of the people really need (without knowing, though).
If they do not do that we will never find such a reasonable sensor except in now-antique cameras.
A top of the line NX series (NX1?) would be great. It would make me slightly annoyed though if I just bought an NX20 🙂
Eric
I’m not holding my breath, particularly after Samsung has repeatedly demonstrated that they cannot meet the schedules promised on their prior lens roadmaps.
“TOP LINE” aps-c?
Lol, who needs this? It would be eaten by first FF mirrorless camera.
As I said the other day, IF Samsung really wants to keep themselves in this industry, as a late challenger, they need a big legacy or something bold, so far they have neither. iFn is a nice feat and so is WiFi as a standard for their line up, but none of that is as bold as Fuji X PRO1 sensor and quality and Fuji also has a photography tradition.
Throwing away the MP race is a start, a very good one. Make a 12MP that performs well, with a decent low light performance and a good DR and you have a good start to work on. But that’s not enough, build something on par with the latest mirrorless cameras such as NEX-7, XPRO1 and E-M5.
NEX has good performance, very good all around camera, but they lack lenses, when NX system exceed as a new system, nice fast primes, pancakes.
XPRO1 has the best APS-C performance for photography, although only 3 lenses, they have some good primes, but it has horrible AF and Video performance.
E-M5 has come with a good game, they improved DR, ISO performance, the IBIS seems fantastic, I just wished it had AVCHD 2.0 like the NEX cameras and a better video performance.
GH3 should have decent photography, hopefully improved DR, but unless Panasonic screw up, it should have an outstanding video performance, the best among ILC cameras in this 1000$ range.
If Samsung wants to succeed, they need to outperform or at least be on par with every good aspect of all this system, plus, most of all they have to listen to what consumers really want, they want less MP, more DR and nice Video. NEX has the best all around – it would be m4/3 if they made a Olympus picture with Panasonic Video – but Sony is screwing everything by not having any decent lens, I just read that the Sigma 30mm f/2.8 is the best lens for the NEX System, c’mon Sony! And Sony is going mad with the MP thing, Fuji is awesome at photography but horrible at Video – but they never wanted this cameras to be a hybrid anyway. So Samsung, you have to make it right, just that, I don’t think it’s as hard as it seems.
um…I don’t know if anyone has actually used a NX camera before, but the RAW/jpeg write speed is horrible. If Samsung doesn’t improve that and the lack of even an add-on EVF, there would be no “pro-NX” to speak of. They can improve the sensor all they want, but if I have to wait ~5-8 sec between shots there is no way I will shoot with another samsung.
Even on my NX200 with large RAW files, in Single drive mode I can fire a shot, and take another immediately. There are a few issues like not being able to change the focus point while it is writing, but it isn’t 5-8 seconds. With my fast memory card it is just a couple seconds. I have used slower cameras before. If you have a fast shooting style it isn’t for you, but there is a buffer on it that will hold several RAW shots, so rarely do I hit the buffer limit.
With the resources Samsung has, I was a little surprised that it didn’t make more of a play for Kodak’s sensor expertise and color profiles – it certainly could have outbid anyone else. This would have created a buzz with the NX line that Samsung doesn’t seem to be able to do on its own.
I agree with others, a better JPEG engine and better raw compression are also needed. The lenses are really good and a fast zoom is all that’s needed in the mix. Lastly, if I was calling the shots at Samsung, I would offer video capability that crushes the competition – manual audio and exposure controls, more framerates, higher bitrates, mic input, headphone jack and such – all features we’ll likely see on the GH3.
If the NX isn’t class leading in some manner there is simply no way its going to make significant inroads over already entrenched competition in the CSC market.
Fast AF IBIS and great jpeg’s? EM5.
Compact APS-c and great DR and video? Nex-5n.
Class leading MP and EVF? Nex-7
Class leading video? GH2
Rangefinder wannabe? Xpro1
I want to make full frame A2 prints so 12MP doesn’t sound like such a great idea. I hope Samsung really are working on the rumored NX1 or whatever it’s called. Decent video would be nice but really that means an uncompressed video out because none of the consumer formats are so great if you need to do any serious grading, which I will because I would like to take it diving. So hopefully Samsung will link up with a housing manufacturer. But even then I won’t be able to fit the external recorder in the housing.
I’ve made A2 size prints with images from a 10MP camera; they looked great. The current 20MP sensor in the NX20 and NX200 should be capable of A1 prints without a problem. Not that I expect to be making prints that large.
i just dream of having Samsung lens lineup on my Sony NEX: )
Invest in lenses, never invest in a disposable body 😉
Sounds great because it means:
Less problems trying to interpolate down video, less stress for glass to try to resolve tons of megapixels.
🙂
Knowing Samsung, their next camera will be something that their users will NOT want. Think of all the things you wants in a cameras, speedy AF, great EVF, large buffer, minimal shutter lag, and Samsung will find a way to NOT give you these things. Samsung nx is finished.