A Luminous Landscape forum post (Click here) created some buzz about a possible Dalsa-Leica partnership. As you may know Dalsa announced a new 24 Megapixel CCD sensor (Click here to read the specs). And Leica is actually the only Full Frame camera maker still using CCD sensors. So how do we say…where there is smoke there is fire!
One more thing: The new Leica mirrorless system with electronic viewfinder that will be announced in September will certainly use a CMOS sensor. And I guess Sony will be the supplier for Leica…
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Somebody get these sensors to Ricoh, I need one in a new GRX M module!
If there is a CCD imager then there will be no live view and that does not really fall under the mirrorless cameras.
Apparently, the rumored Leica liveview cam would be like their P&S camera with an APS-C sensor (that already uses a dated 12MP Sony sensor).
With Leica prices, and perhaps a 16MP sensor (as in the NEX-5N), the Fuji X-Pro1 will get a boost in sales from such a liveview camera from Leica. 🙂
Read article until end, Mirrorless with liveview will use CMOS. The CCD is for M series.
would love a pentax 645d mirrorless, as there are rumors of it. the 645d sensor is also ccd, but it is medium format with 2x the area of the leica sensor
I hope that won’t happen. CCD and live view do not belong together. Besides, Pentax and mirrorless do not belong together as well. Chunky cameras with no EVF. 🙁
N.R. That is what I said. It (Leica live view cam) will be a 16MP CMOS one from Sony. Ricoh’s rumored A 16 will be better and cheaper.
Fuji also will benefit from such a 16MP Leica liveview cam. 😉
So in reality we will have Sony cams ranging from 500-5000$ just branded differently, Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Leica, Pentax etc…
So?We also have Ford branded engines fitted into cars ranging from a family saloon,hybrid,pick-up truck,van,lorry,muscle car to a SUV,tractor,rally and super car.From Ford to Mazda to Volvo to Jaguar…..from a few hundred rupees to a few million sterlings etc etc……..what is the point you’re trying to make?
Don’t get you. What is the point?
Leica uses Kodak’s sensors. Phase One uses Teledyne Dalsa’s sensors. Check the facts before posting something like this on the internet.
Camaman is talking about the Leica EVIL/mirrorless camera that’s gonna use SONY’s 16mp APS-C sensor not M10. M10 is going to cost $10,000 and he is quibbling about C3’s sensor in an EVIL/mirrorless that cost $5,000.
I am talking about now. Not some far fetched rumors made up by someone on the internet.
if not m10, then m9? they are still developing m9 4 years after released?
phase1 have fullframe?? kodak is still doing business?
Ektachrome is still my favorite full frame sensor.
What about Zeiss Ikon? I read an interview somewhere they said something about finding a sensor partner for their digital rangefinder.
That’s 11e- read noise sensor with relatively low quantum efficiency. It handles corners with good efficiency, but otherwise it is not up to par compared to modern CMOS sensors (ie. the Sony sensor in the new Nikon).
OMG, I hope it isn’t truth. I wanted to have the best when started building leica kit: I don’t care much about AF, that’s not the thing I really need. But I do care about IQ: color depth, DR, sometimes high ISO performance matters. So I hoped for leica full frame camera with 36Mp sensor to use it without crappy RF but EVF.
digital zeiss icon rangefinder, yes please! But only if it costs a fraction of the leica. Voightlander could and should do something like this.
My point was that I hope manufacturers look at other sensor developers other than Sony. I would not be pleased if all of them just decided that it is good enough . cheap and easily available and think that nobody will notice if they charge 5000$ for it.
Sure it might be a metal body but I wont pay for it if the technology inside isn’t exotic as well.
I think 2012/2013 will bring lots of new system cameras back to reality.
The technology is finally there.
Manufacturers are turning to Sony because Sony is now providing the best performing sensors, not because it is “good enough”. In fact till a few years ago only Nikon used Sony sensors in DSLRs. But in last few years Sony has made so much improvements in its sensor technology that for anyone wanting quality sensors, Sony has become the number one choice.
Only Nikon? Sony also used Sony sensors in their dSLRs.
Leica needs to have some “special sauce”, otherwise I might as well be shooting any Sony sensor based camera. So far their special sauce has been Kodak CCD without AA filter & optical rangefinder cladded in beautiful metal body. As now more camera makers jumping on an AA-less designs, Leica needs to up the ante with a new trick – higher resolution, higher sensitivity, higher dynamic range sensor that would do justice to Leica glass. I think about 80-120MP would work nicely, but the tech in not quite there yet – we just got Sony 36MP sensor which is state of the art (for the moment). But couple more years of development, and we will get there.
Leica sell on body design and lenses. Sensor/processing are OK, but not quite on the same level as Canon or Nikon FF. Leica could basically stick any decent sensor in there as it’s clearly not the reason for buying Leica.