Time to make a clear roundup of the CP+ rumors. The show will start on February 12 and the Sony press conference is scheduled for February 13. There is some smoke and some fire on the rumors front:
The Fire:
So far we only know for sure that four FE lenses (Zeiss 35mm f/1.4, Sony 28mm f/2.0 G, 90mm f/2.8 G OSS macro, 24-240mm f/3.5-6.3 OSS) and two converters will be announced.
It’s also highly likely that
1) Sony will show an updated FE roadmap
2) Sony will give us more hints and show a mockup of the two “updated” A-mount lenses (image on top)
The smoke:
So far I got no 100% confirmation from trusted sources about a camera announcement at CP+. They spilled out some info on the A7000, A7rII and so on but always stressed me to say that announcement date is unclear. Knowing the recent Sony history it may be possible that Sony will focus on the FE lens announcement at CP+ and announce the cameras 1-2 months later just like it happened at Photokina and with the A7II.
1) There is a cat and mouse game with Canon on the High megapixel camera. So maybe Sony wants to see what Canon brings out first…
2) New 4K cameras may be announced at NAB in April. A show that suits better for that kind of tech.
3) I got absolutely ZERO rumors about possible new A-mount cameras coming at CP+….
So let’s hope that Sony is just hiding their cards like they did with the A7s and A7II…we want the A7rII and A7000 as soon as it gets Sony! 🙂
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Compared to previous events there are fewer leaks this time around.
Perhaps Sony is getter better at hiding this from us.
Hopefully something worth hiding.
I don’t think Sony are hiding. Cp+ sounds like a lens show. Poor a mount, no body on the radar.
Of course they have, SAR haven’t known about most big launches until a couple days prior at most. Not SAR’s fault, but Sony are getting good at keeping things under wraps.
It’s big…really big. It goes beyond big and right back around to small. In fact, they have managed to totally turn A mount into FE mount I’m afraid. Slight of hand technique.
Plans still lack a focal length of 20mm FE or 24mm. It is 35mm which is too little.
That’s why there is another 8 or more lenses in the works, which we will know more details of soon. Considering the lenses already realeased / pre-announced there is plenty of room for most people to get what they want.
Upcoming 28/2 + wide angle converter = 21mm
Let’s hope it is good optically.
What is going on with Sony marketing ? all other brand already have more or less announced something, camera’s and lenses, and Sony = nothing officially anyway, just rumors !!! IF no new camera’s announced this time, Sony will lose customers for sure !!!!
Fuji did come with 1 new mirrorless camera (the XA-2), Olympus did come with one mirrorless camera (The EPL-7), Panasonic did come with two new mirrorless cameras, Nikon, Canon and Pentax did come with zerro mirrorless cameras, and Samsung did come with two mirrorless cameras, all announcements were arround Photokina or after that.
And how did Sony? They came with 2 mirrorless cameras in the same time (the QX1 and the A7mII
I suppose you already finished paying for your new A7II?
And I guess you already have the A7s, A7r and A7I?
An improved a6000 (¿a7000?) would be fantastic!!
which features or changes would you like to see on a7000?
IBIS ;)… And that is probably what it will feature…
IBIS, the strengthened mount and high quality body materials from the A7II. That’s all I would ask for on top of the A6000, though even better AF would be a bonus.
Internal 4K from full-sensor-readout.
4K Photo mode as Panasonic has (yes you don’t need it – but I like it)
A touch screen and a second dial would be more like it. IBIS, 4K et al can stay with the other toyboxes.
This sucks. I need to take a break from hoping for new body from Sony.
I’m getting really pissed with Sony’s treatment of the A-mount customer base. I’ve been holding of on buying a new A mount camera forever because I want to go full frame and am hoping they will either have something like an A88 or an A99II coming up but what do they have? Fucking nothing!
All they do is tend to their E-mount. I know the reasons and from a business perspective I can understand but on the other hand – also from a business perspective – they WILL lose customers if they don’t tend to their existing A-mount users. I’m really getting sick and tired of always getting my hopes up for nothing. Sony is really disappointing.
Can’t wait to get my hands on the 90mm! Bad news for a-mount though after the pathetic Photokina showing…
What worries me is how they expect anyone else to have confidence in the a-mount when they don’t seem to themselves. Especially given the concerns that supporting a-mount = another adapter.
“They”=”Sony” always shows to have confidence in A-mount, why do you think otherwise? Sony always said that it is not prio #1 right now, but do there have to be 10 lenses EVERY year to keep it alive especially when the A-mount lens lineup is not tiny?
Shhhhh, don’t talk common sense around here!
They’ve gone on record as saying the a77ii had disappointing sales, haven’t released a single pro a-mount body in well over 2 years and haven’t launched a new lens since June 2013. This is despite them saying in interviews that they are committed to the a-mount,there wasn’t a single a-mount body at photokina (the a77ii being one of their newest bodies at the time).
Either they’re so confident that they don’t have to market the a-mount, or they don’t think it’s worth the effort.
Andrew, since when is 2 years is a long time?
Sony’s made it clear that their continued support & development for A-mount is mainly for professionals & the release cycle for pro bodies from any camera maker is in 3 year release cycles — sometimes as long as 4 years.
The only thing getting me a little impatient is having an A77II and wanting that speed in an A99, since A99 IQ still blows the A77II away on all levels!
I say wait for the fall! That will be 3 years since A99 and I would expect new A-mount camera(s) then!
Since Sony has been updating A-mount lenses across their system with weather sealing, a new faster SSM II motor and coatings to reduce ghosting, I’d say the new cameras and tech are going to be focused on speed.
That’s still A-mounts biggest advantage against E-mount bodies, but also longer battery life and better heat dissipation for sensor, CPU, etc.
Admin, ask your sources if you Sony is going to consider doing a A-mount Fullframe camera capable of competing against 1DX/D4S.
I don’t expect Sony to go in that terretory of cameras. Those are mega expensive (over $6000) and only for the real pros wo need the speed of these cameras, and that is just a small group of professionals, who allready have invested in Canikon.
Mayube when mirrorless is that good (in focussing and FPS) then Sony can take over that segment too, but I won’t wit for that…
If Sony doesn’t take seriously the pro market they will be 3rd spot forever. Guess we will see Canon and Nikon dominating at the Olympics and Major Sport events for decades.
Who cares, do you shoot the Olympics or Major sports events? Not likely.
Why so aggressive?
Anyways, I do shoot sports, and I run a page related to aircraft spotting where I could see benefits from having a top-tier fullframe camera where the increased dynamic range and lower noise at higher ISOs with a high speed, high accurancy AF module could bring more keeper rates in low light conditions. Something that high-tier cameras can bring to us. And that is something that Sony has, but on separate models, not in a single package.
No, I don’t shoot at the olympics nor major sports event but does that means that Sony cannot go and compete in the high-tier segment? What’s your argument?
My cat moves very fast. Requires low light ISO and lightning fast AF. I’ve invested thousands even though I feed my cat the cheapest food on the market.
@Admin: What about any new APSC-E mount lenses ?
What do you miss in the current lens lineup :)? I guess however they concentrate on FE lenses first and A-mount as second.
Don’t know what Arnaud is missing, but what I am missing:
– macro lenses
– primes above 60mm
– non PZ, non constant f, 18-105 lens, to keep it cheap and small(ish)
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For all these lenses are alternatives either in FE or in other mounts with adapters and some probably would not be much smaller than their FE incarnations, but I would love to see those as dedicated APS-C lenses.
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However I do understand why Sony is concentrating on FE for now, because it is not like their are too few lenses available for APS-C. Just some gaps to fill in the future. The FE line is lacking more options than APS-C does.
FE 24-105/4 is coming 🙂
That’s a good range, 21 to 120 at 2.8 would justify the difficulty of making, weight of lens and expense to user. It would differentiate Sony system completely, for ideal photographic results not JUST lazy uninformed and ignorant users with costly and yet weight compromised 2 zoom solution and little else defining their choice of camera system/brand.
One lens to rule all lenses without swapping for most common shots and the lions share of drama with JUST a couple of primes each end perhaps? 😀
15mm 2.8 and 200mm f/2 (for compact setup on one shoot or day only i mean of course)
It would be perfect travel lens and all shooting would converge so that they gave it optimal AF and assure weather sealing too.
at some point i just stop reading, but i cannot agree more with you for the readed part ! 🙂
I mastered Photography, i understand the different aspects because i intuitively grasped them already. I don’t find it that difficult. But i work very hard and passionately on securing such understandings, existentially.
i started with a lot of false assumptions, the usual ones.
I have worked my way to all the corrected ones.
I stop writing in amongst trolling comments to do you know existential stuff too at some point, safe in the knowledge someone not troll without even the possibility to make great progress will in fact, in photography.
You are all ignorant and i am the master
i think i just wait cp+ event for sure
this rumour keep thing up and down about new body 🙁
Hoping for an updated 24-70 2.8 for the extending FE road map.
Admin, could you please clarify the comment on “more hints and mockup of the two updated A-mount lenses”. I understood that the pictures are ones of the actual lenses and that there is no update to the lenses physical dimensions and appearance. Does you comment mean that the update will bring a change in the form factor ?
Why should lenses like the FE 90 macro be “announced”, they already were back in 2014. Do you mean “release” or “announce release date”?
They will be officially announced which will mean pricing and avilability (and probably samples and early elreviews etc).
The 24-70 / 16- 35 ZA were fine as they were – didn’t really need an up-date. What could of done with the up-dates are the excellent 85 /135 primes to SSM / weather seal/ non-extending barrel. Failing that introduction of an ultra wide prime… <16mm , 35mm ,or 100mm marco ZA lens would be most welcomed.
Yeah, please Admin, Andrea, do you know anything about the 85 1.4 ZA up-date? As Evo said hopefully SSM / weather seal/ non-extending barrel.
Well if like Sony’s current strategy they pre-announce lenses then when (or around the same time) as announcing them officially they pre-announce the next lot. So logically they might pre-announce the 85/135 when they officially announce the updated 16-35/24-70’s.
Andrea, shouldn’t we get at least two new body per previous posts by you for this upcoming CP+ show? Just wondering… 🙂
I can’t wait to read what people want, or how much they want to pay for it, or how many MP will you need and what can Sony and their execs to for you and your family and how Canon/Nikon/Olympus/Pentax/Leica/Panasonic/Fuji have already done so many wonders with you that you just can’t hold it together anymore so you need to let us all know how amazing they have been with you.
DONT FORGET TO USE CAPS IF YOU FEEL YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID ANY ATTENTION TO!
I see that having failed photography you are back to postmodern subjectivity.
You’re the type of wan ker he is referring to…
You don’t have camera and lenses, what are you even referring to aside from me.
Oh, dear. I didn’t think owning equipment entitled me to bash about it and increase my self worth in public. I better get on spending money today at Harrods and B&H, no less, so I can be as important and confident as you.
To$$er… find worth in yourself somewhere else….
^Master Photographer, you failtroll
i fakcin like your style, master ! 🙂
So you own no equipment but troll equipment sites? Does your mom know that?
I would like a zoom from 21 to 55 f/2.8 or at least compact f/3.5 and a zoom from 24 to 100 at f/2.8 on A or E mount. or at least 28 100 f/2.8 🙂 both with weather sealing obviously and an in body stablized Sony A7R to go with them. Make trolls and canikon even more nihilistic than usual 😀 Even now that could be coupled with the very heavy Sigma 120 to 300 2.8 but for incredible range.
hello master! how are you today ?
Im good, researching some of the modern system options for Sony cams. Meanwhile, i would like manual aperture control to make those AF lenses effective…
don’t waste your time with sony 🙂
Waste time? with meaningless jokes you mean? vacuous irony?
I already waste my time with high quality vintage lenses on my Sony.
>I got absolutely ZERO rumors about possible new A-mount cameras coming at CP+….
The Alpha land is dead…
The supposed huge A-Mount announcements in February don’t seem to be coming.
Maybe the 24-70 f/2.8 will be FE, as happended with the 35mm f/1.4 Zeiss? That would finally make the FE system more than a marketing gimmick
Although they did release 70-200 f/2.8 G II for A-Mount and the price of a decent car, before abandoning the Alpha line, so I’ve given up trying to make sense of Sony’s actions.
The only explanation that fits is, Sony just decided to surrender the market to Canikon and stick with second camera / smartphone upgrade manufacturing.
A-Mount 35mm was only a rumour, not a fact. The f2.8 zooms are A-Mount lenses. Nobody at Sony EVER said the 35mm Zeiss was coming for A-Mount… Dimwit.
Why would you think they would? Wasn’t 2014 the year of A-mount? That didn’t happen either 😉
A77 II, 70-300mm G, 24-70mm f2.8 Zeiss and 16-35mm f2.8 Zeiss. That is about what one would expect of A-Mount in a year, historically speaking… Well maybe a few entry models, but they’d just get panned by A-Mount enthusiasts anyway.
None of those lenses are new…. Nor are they upgrades/updates of any of their truly older lenses, like the 35/1.4 which desperately needs an upgrade. Instead, they are taking their lenses that were already premium and modern, and tweaking the SSM, and adding the newest coatings. (and increasing the price!).
When you have so few lenses that even have SSM… when you still have gaps in the lineup… doesn’t it seem odd to simply be updating the SSM of those lenses, instead of updating older lenses/releasing new lenses?
I suspect there is something different afoot…. These upgrades are not about supporting the A-mount in its current form. These upgrades serve one of two real purposes, IMHO:
1 — The upgrades are for enhanced video use, if the A99ii (or whatever you call it) is designed and sold as a major video device… Or..more likely..
2 — These updates will provide greater functionality/easier adaptability with E-mount. These upgraded SSM designs may ultimately offer full AF on E-mount cameras, with a simple non-SLT adapter. Thus, it would be a simple way for Sony to say they now offer premium 2.8 zoom lenses for E-mount and premium telephoto zooms, that are fully functional on E-mount. No loss of stabilization (as future E-mount bodies may be stabilized). No light loss, as it will be a simple adapter, not SLT.
Thus, I actually suspect that these new designs are about long term support for E-mount, not continued A-mount support.
Or maybe these are simply the most popular lenses? E-Mount support? Not likely, if they were about E-Mount support don’t you think they would just release an E-Mount version with adapter built in? We already know how much people hate adapters.
If they are already the most popular lenses, all the more reason they don’t need to be upgraded!
Yes, simply building the adapter right into the lens would be an option if if was ONLY about E-mount support…. But this avenue let’s them think of E-mount long-term, while also providing A-mount support. It’s likely also a much cheaper adaption/production as opposed to adding in the adapter. And yes, people hate adapters in general…. but I have my own speculation that the “A9” or whatever “professional E-mount” camera they come up with, may include an “attachment” that allows for these advanced A-mount lenses. It won’t be marketed as a typical adapter.. it’s just an extra piece of the camera, for use with certain lenses.
I admit this is pure speculation. I’m not suggesting that this is “probable.” It’s slightly more than a wild guess.
I just think it’s very odd to be seeing these minor updates to these lenses, when there are far more dire needs in the lens lineup. Imagine if the FE-roadmap, instead of introducing new lenses, they were going to update the nearly new 55/1.8!
The 16-35 is only 5 years old.
The 70-300 is only 6 years old.
The 24-70 is only 6 years old.
The original 70-400 was only 4 years old.
Meanwhile, how many screw drive lenses do they still have??
Nikon currently offers 54 SWM lenses (their SSM equivalent). Canon I believe offers 53 USM lenses (their SSM equivalent). Sony I believe only offers 10 SSM lenses…
Only 10 SWM lenses, compared to 54 from Nikon… I believe 53 USM lenses from canon…. shouldn’t they be trying to catch up, instead of minor updates to lenses that are already “modern.”
Something smells off.
That is some nice speculation. Personally think they are updating these A-Mounts as there is currently no intention of bringing them out in E-Mount, nothing to do with being more compatible with mirrorless, just fresh lenses for A-Mount or at least revised in one way or other of the most popular lenses. I think SLT will still be the way for adapted lenses for a little while yet.
The other thing that you aren’t taking into account is that popular lenses will get a return on investment, less popular or common lenses are unlikely to. So maybe like the 35mm they feel that they will get a better return on investment designing the new lens for E-Mount then they will for A-Mount. So quite possibly the 85mm falls under this banner as well… Or perhaps as I mentioned elsewhere, the 85/135 updates will get announced when the two latest getbofficially announced? Who knows? But i wouldn’t bet the farm on what you have suggested to be the case… Or at least I wouldn’t just yet.
So in summary: Updating the most popular lenses are likely to get a ROI. Updates for less popular lenses are more likely to get a ROI on their more popular system, so I think they are focussing on key lenses for each platform and those which will be most complimentary to each system.
I’m sorry, but if a lens is already the best selling lens… I don’t think a minor upgrade and price increase will sell that many extra units. On the other hand, upgrading an older but generally popular focal length, would likely attract far more upgraders and better ROI.
I admit I’m only speculating…. Having watched A-mount/E-mount development with great interest in the last 2-3 years, I feel like I’m starting to sense their bigger picture. I wouldn’t bet on it — it is just speculation.
But something doesn’t feel right about these upgrades. On the one hand, if they were really going to kill off A-mount immediately, why bother with even additional production run of A-mount lenses. On the other hand, if they really wanted to maintain the A-mount as a long term product, you would expect true lens development, not these minor updates to lenses that really didn’t even need updates. Where is the long rumored 24-105/4 (a very very popular lens for Canon (24-105) and Nikon (24-85/3.5-4.5 and 24-120/4). Where are the SSM updates to most of the Sony primes?
I feel like they had a game plan to position A-mount as a high level camera, with the A99 and the Zeiss 50/1.4… but then when sales were disappointing compared to E-mount, they totally shifted course. If they were still on that track, we would see the A99ii at Photokina, in the last 2 years, we would have seen updates to the 85mm and 135mm Zeiss lenses, and the addition of F4 zooms. We would have seen the 35mm updated, just like they did with the Zeiss 50. It feels like there was an abrupt change of course in early/mid 2013… Very suddenly, they decided to put almost all their energy into E-mount, and transform it from the “NEX” consumer camera, to the “Alpha” CaNikon competitor. Most new lens development for A-mount was stopped. Instead of A37 and A57 upgrades, they through out one simplified A58.. They had already been developing the A77ii (which was rumored for a 2013 release many times), so they finished it off in 2014 and released it. But in the meantime, they focused serious energy on E-mount.
There are those who believe this change in focus was “temporary” and that once E-mount is built up, Sony will turn attention back to A-mount. But I suspect it is more of a continuing trend… The more they focus on E-mount, the more successful it will be… which will make them want to focus even more on E-mount.
Maybe A mount is undergoing a complete restructure in terms of development and technology. We have no idea what the A99II will try to accomplish. High mega pixel count isn’t going to win enough fans. Sony has to know this. SLT has been polarizing, but- as with the a77II- Sony is proving that the minor gaps in EVF refresh and ISO can be overcome. Still, it’s not enough sauce in the recipe to get the guests to eat it. I suspect there is something we don’t know here.
Updating lenses makes zero sense if you plan on panning the system. It’s should be obvious as well that FE mount must be affecting Sony’s previous plan for A mount. this unexpected detour has to be weighing in on their previous buisiness plans for future A mount technology. I suspect- it is possible- that the delays and silence are because Sony has been hashing out the system. Compatability with FE mount (how can we make this better), Video functionality, handling R&D resources across multiple systems. I think it’s more complicated than we assume.
SLT was a complete suprise when it arrived and so too the high MP count of the A900. It’s a suprise because Sony can’t afford to leak information to the competition. It has to be caught off guard. We just won’t know anything until we see the next FF.
Totally wrong as usual Adam, at least you’re consistent.
Exactly. Make the best a-mount assets as quickly as possible useful for e-mount, which for Sony is also the strategic video mount.
With the 35mm f1.4 it seems the design changes from the old a-mount one have been big enough to not bother with a-mount anymore. Same for all the new f4 lenses.
If the A7rii is out with more MP before the A99ii, then I also start doubting the release of another FF a-mount.
Because what Sony’s currently doing makes no sense.
Releasing updated lenses for an abandoned system? o_0
Replacing DSLRs with mirrorless, but not making proper lenses for FE? 0_o
Thinking f/4 lenses would somehow replace f/2.8 ones? O_O
I just don’t think that Sony management have been replaced by aliens somewhere in 2013-2014… although it certainly looks this way.
My comment was meant as a joke since this time last year this site was spewing all sorts of 2014 is the year of A-mount which never happened….
Yes, I got it.
But I do expect them to announce something, the current situation is plain weird.
Can you cite when/where Sony ever said 2014 is the year of a-mount?
I don’t know if Sony ever did but this site based on the rumors it had claimed that 2014 would be the year of the A-mount. I think we ended up with a new 77II and 4 to 5 E-mounts.
We are joking about this site saying 2014 was going to be the year of A-mount.
Well, it was perhaps the year of the alpha system – a7/a7r shipped at the top of the year, a7s mid year, 6 new lenses, new accessories, a77-2, a6000 and then it finished with the a7-2 bringing 5axis ibis. That’s quite a year.
Agreed and I personally am OK with that since the system needs built out a lot more but the A-mount faithful are not happy, understandably so to some degree.
Your posts always make me laugh…
You’re welcome 🙂
You remember that too? I call it the year that never was.
Admin: 28/2 is not a G lens 🙂
Indeed, why can’t he get that right?
Reminded him a few times already
Well just goes to show that admin no longer really reads the comments.
No news about a RX1II/RX2?
but Apple Watch will be here April 🙂
apple watch is a piece of useless device
for me almost everything from sony has the very same characteristic 🙂 after all every-fakcin-thing is subjective.. 🙂
i mean:
“A mount is dead”! really ?!! how the fakc a dead thing can die ? 🙂
subjective…
Yup! Typical Canon troll!!
Yeah. Enjoy Canon in their whole 3 year future.
Canon and Nikon surely have a big future in their core business, which is real cameras.
The fact is, they have no competition.
So, I am not sure why you bring them up in a toy forum.
“real cameras” what an ignorant turd.
With all 4 hours of battery life…that’s very useful for a watch…
hahahaha
good one 🙂
Here’s hoping!
finally FE 24-105/4 ! awesome ! 🙂
So this rumor post is to explain that we still have no rumors… But check these deals.
Great to see some more lenses, even if it is exclusively lenses, if its 4-5 new lenses that would be completely Ok.
Hope some of them are compact as possible, similar to the Sony E mount 20mm/2.8.
Is a wide enough mount coming too?
E-mount is good enough
E mount is good enough for plastic toys.
Admin: did your sources spill anything you haven’t told us yet ? Will you post some nice rumors soon ?
A-mount is dead
Sony has already provided us a wonderful system and lens lineup, the prospect of more is very exciting. I have worked with my best friend si and have helped him in developing this wonderful picture! As you can see, beautiful images can be accomplished by a wonderful camera system and proper training!
Only one good trainer though huh. You really are ignorant, consider this, its not the whole matter of your ignorance but part of it, a representative part..Can someone with extremely limited funds and a lot of passion for photography get a great system to shoot with? What considerations are there for such a person? Have you an answer for such a person who has say…lets decide how much they might be limited to first to make that somewhat objective..Lets not judge them but even i am astonished by this…
This is all how ignorant you are isnt it…
Lets go with one of these..£10 per month for 10 year old…and consider how long they might be able to save something significant without spending it all…
£2 a month for two years? That’s £48 pounds…now how will they get a camera to shoot REAL photography with this paltry sum?
Again this is how nihilistic and ignorant you are…
Whatever happened to the talk of a 400mm F4 A mount lens?
becomes E-mount
Why does Sony always pretend to develop A mount? We don’t need upgraded version.
to piss off die hard A-mount users, those are the ones that didn’t jump ship to e-mount yet. Now their A-mount zeiss zooms are outdated too, haha
I suspect E and A mount will be merged within the next couple of years via some form of add-on adapter and DSLR body that keeps all functionality, so A mount will survive.
Latest rumors suggest Sony may share patents with Canon.
New 53mp sensor will include Canon dual pixel tecj, and be made with and without low pass filter for new Canon camera.
The same sensor will also be made for Nikon but without the dual pixel tech..
And of course it will also be in Sony camera…it will be Exmor sensor.
If true this would account for why the anouncements of all these differrent cameras appear to be timed to coincide with each other.
That would be really mixing it up, and that never seemed possible with respect to ‘market’ talk.
Canon is not in the game. Canon has no real mirrorless camera. Canon dslr has no future.
Maybe they do not have any good mirrorless camera but their Dual Pixel CMOS AF implementation, which is a mirrorless technology, allows for faster focusing of non stepping motor lenses than anything else on the market.
When..not if…Canon releases thier high end mirrorless system..snd if it uses the same lenses as thier DSLR…they will simply blow Sony E mount out of the water.
Yeah yeah, Canon fanboy. They said that about the consumer mirrorless market as well…. Still waiting.
I am not anyones fan..not Canon, not Nikon, and not Sony…I just happen to currently use Sony cameras, but even that is subject to change.
Yet you always think and express how much better they are and ‘will’ be… That makes you a Canon fanboy whether you shoot them or not.
I present a balence of comments…some good some bad….
Sony does some things well and other things poorly.
If Canon’s mirrorless offering uses EF lenses natively, it will be compromised from the very beginning. That is not what I would call blowing out of the water. That is just blowing.
What exactly would be compromised ? I understand that the main technical factor of Sony going e-mount in FF mirorrless instead of A-mount which had all the lenses was that the lens focus engine did not work (yet) with their mirrorless AF implementation. That and maybe size and the ability to use legacy lenses of course but I am missing what are the other compromises. From a Canon standpoint I do not understand that would be the compromises of using an existing mount which would give them a extended system from day 1, allow to retain their customer base and lure some people that were going to go with the Sony A7 family.
The EF mount has a DSLR sized flange distance. This would severely limit Canon’s ability to be flexible in terms of body sizes. A redundant space where the mirror box used to be is of no use to anyone.
Canon will have to use EF-M or a modified version of it – if it bases its mirrorless cameras on EF, it will fail in the market against the established mirrorless camera brands (Sony, Olympus, Fujifilm, Pansonic.). If Canon wants to be successful in the mirrorless market (some would question whether it does), it cannot base a modern mirrorless system on an old DSLR mount and old lenses designed for use with a traditional PDAF system.
Thanks. I understand that form factor and size are key advantages of mirrorless systems and that it has to be experience to fully understand how much this actually means. However I wonder if this is it. When I speak to friends using Canon or Nikon the one key feature that they seem to be curious about and interested in mirrorless is the EVF and what is behind it such as exposure preview, peak focus and even face detect. I do not see why an EF mount mirrorless body with over 100 lenses on launch day would not be a viable route for Canon. Taking away the PDAF/OVF would still make it smaller, lighter and cheaper than DSLR counterparts.
Canon (unlike sony) seems to have addressed the “compatibility” of non STM lenses and people want to keep their lenses so why not let them rather than put a long term, extremely loyal customer base in the
position of actively consider switching brands.
Back to Sony and I think that a lot of people would be interested by an A55 sized A-mount mirrorless for instance.
I don’t clam to know better than anyone, was just wondering.
How about if a lens still have mount point at the same place as EF but the lens itself extend beyond the mount and get intrude into the blank space and call it EF-D (Deep) ?
mirrorless Canon camera can accept EF lens without any adapter as well as new EF-D. Lens which will benefit from getting closer to the sensor will be released in EF-D, while tele lens that doesn’t will still release in EF version.
Limitation is the intruding part can not be larger than 54mm of EF mount and we may need a newly design lens cap (body side) and more careful when changing the lens but that’s about all drawback that i can think of.
Thanks. I understand that form factor and size are key advantages of mirrorless systems and to be honest I was not until I recently had the chance to use one for an extended period that I fully appreciated how much this actually implies. However I wonder if this is it. When I speak to friends using Canon or Nikon the one key feature that they seem to be curious about and interested in mirrorless is the EVF and what is behind it such as exposure preview, peak focus and even face detect. I do not see why an EF mount mirrorless body with over 100 lenses on launch day would not be a viable route for Canon.Taking away the PDAF/OVF would still make it smaller, lighter and cheaper than DSLR counterparts.
Canon (unlike sony) seems to have addressed the “compatibility” of non STM lenses and people want to keep their lenses so why not let them
rather than put a long term, extremely loyal customer base in the position of actively consider switching brands. Back to Sony and I think that a lot of people would be interested by an A55 sized A-mount mirrorless for instance.
I don’t clam to know better than anyone, was just wondering.
Don’t think that they will blow others out of the water nor that they need to. Anything that is as good as the FF e-mount will ensure that they retain their customer base and maybe gain some of those that were considering switching to Sony.
Stop hallucinating, if and when Canon releases a “high end” mirrorless, it will be using a new mount.
I guess somebody in the E-mount world starts to feel the unsave future of the toy .
A-mount = Alpha >>
A-mount dead = Alpha dead >>
Sony Photography dead = Sony back to core business Camcorder >> Legacy of Minolta wasted -shame on Sony if no news on A-mount at CP+.
Canon mirrorless with seamless SLR lens integration…check!
Canon, more than anyone, knows how important thier lensns system is.
If building a mirrorless system that works with current Canon autofocus is possible the will do it.
And everything is possible.
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Wrong. SLT does.
The two systems are very competitive for focus speed and tracking with both manufacturers claiming superiority.
Canon however does not shoot through a piece of plastic to limit its iso and sharpness, so the same Quality sensor will produce a better image on Canon or Nikon.
Of course SLT or DSLR for that matter but the point was focusing on mirrorless systems.
You must not shoot sports or wildlife or want a camera that functions fast and is reliable. My A7r has great IQ and size, but everything else about it pales in comparison to 1DX and 5D3.
How do the 1DX and 5DM3 compare to the A7r for portraiture and landscape photography? Not so much right.
I’ve taken beautiful portraits with a 1d-x. For fine portraits, it’s about the light, the pose and the composition – not the camera body.
But the sensor suck compared to the A7r, you can’t deny that.
It has less dynamic range than my a99 and I generally prefer well exposed a99 files shot below ISO 400 to it. For high ISO, it is easily superior to the a99 / a7 sensor.
For a controlled portrait shoot, which is what you were talking about (which is why I haven’t mentioned AF ability), shot at a low ISO the sensor is fairly irrelevant. It’s about what you can do with the light, the subject and the frame. For full auto snapshots with no lighting, than sure, the sensor and processor are potentially equally as important as the button pusher I suppose.
I shoot with both Sony and canon. Completely agree with you and no one has talked about colors. Canon for portraits more natural and warmer colors than Sony. Not even close. If you want to use speedlights, canon again way better. I want Sony to make a great camera. The 99 is good but flawed, my 1dx is a beast.
Naive reaction.
Canon EOS-M is underrated, and dual-pixel AF might be a game changer. Canon is sitting with the finger on the trigger, waiting for the opportune moment to release its A7 competitor.
Dual pixel AF hasn’t shown anything substantial yet, it has lots of limitations and is no ‘better’ than SLT with its own set of limitations. Sure it will definitely improve Canon’s mirrorless situation but that remains to be seen. Certainly for adapting lenses it is no better than what Sony can do with SLT and the native line of lenses tops out at four, none of which are full frame.
To ‘better’ the A7 II Canon will have to release a FF EOS-M with 10 lenses to be at the same point as Sony are now and will have to incorporate their dual pixel AF which ‘may’ give a mild advantage in AF for the short term but a disadvantage in low ISO IQ.
Canon only needs to make a competitive Camera..people buy Canon for thier lens selection.
I think that the point here was for canon to use the Dual Pixel which is for all practical purposes a dedicated mirrorrless AF / tracking system in a EF mount FF mirrorless implementation. Since their dual pixel AF allows for fast focus on non STM focus motor lenses it means that they would have all 103 lenses available from day 1 (but loose the ability to use most legacy glass).
I was actually quite underwhelmed but the performance of the dual-pixel Canon sensor; focusing issues and mediocre in terms of resolution and dynamic range. How it that a “game changer”?
Sony plays games and sells toy E mount cameras.
Canon os not in the game…they sell real cameras.
Please define what you mean by real and toy cameras.
CR1. Hopeless fanboys wishing their beloved Canon’s would get some Sony sensor love. By the way, read up on dual pixel AF and you will understand why this is complete nonsense.
Hello Sony. I’m waiting for a new full frame A-mount camera with i) an AF-system like the A77-mark II or A6000, ii) an ISO sensitivity like the A7s and a sensor with app. 18-20 MPixel.
I think a lot of people are waiting for that camera, A-mount or otherwise
The only real ‘truth’ is that ‘Pros’ shoot websize and don’t even sharpen for it…Do they even need 12MP? or good glass (no offense) Would the ‘toy’ camera system be in fact for ‘pros’ to play with on their weekends off of work so people know they are still ‘pros’ now other useful effective cameras have totally ousted theirs? Im relatively serious, i mean, you could make it relatively cheap like canon…JUST make bad fast even expensive OMG why not!!!! glass with all the features and usual focal lengths and zoom ranges and very poor sensors for websize and i suppose requisite ‘high ISO numbers without loss of much real detail(not there anyway)’ If ‘pros’ want toy camera and system, why not give it to them, but only give them EXACTLY what they asked for. Leave real shooting to the Enthusiast and effective shooters who work etc. There are unverified parts to this argument, being: ‘pros shoot websize’ and assumption they REALLY want what they ‘say’ they want to diminish REAL shooters who shoot for effective photography and for work. Make it worse and more compromised thus for image quality than canikon can manage and you have two successful lines with only net improvement of resolution for the purposes of actual shooting practices! Lets encourage the trolls to do this!
You don’t understand that print business is bigger than ever before. Custom photo labs with creative print and frame solutions offer gigantic high quality prints for very cheap.
Magazines on the local level are thriving and small town newspapers are being purchased up by Warren Buffet because he see’s futures in community news. The pages are larger and Sunday editions are high quality gloss.
International magazines demand higher and higher resolutions because they print 350dpi on tabloid rag with luxurious gloss.
iMac and Dell have 5K monitors and 4K tv is here my friend. Take a walk through your local mall or airport and see the gigantic photo displays.
This won’t make any difference to someone living life with brain stuck inside their phone. But the rest of the world is demanding higher resolution than ever before.
Cropping for editorial 🙂
Yo, NUT-JOB, what’s wrong with you? Are you ill? Bored? Lonely? Disturbed? All of the above? We hear your cry for help! Tell us where you live and we will come over and help you.
Put your money where your mouth is and i will be even more helpful with your false charity. Still no idea what that 10 year old should use for REAL photography? you know the kind of cam you would be willing to afford to even have the remotest understanding of photography. Shouldn’t you be helping and not hindering such a person, not me, i have cam and lenses and photographic understanding.
Contrary Example..you knew it was coming….
If you shoot badly on Sony A7R you can achieve the same blur proofing (and just about all the ISO ‘limitations’ if resolution never bothered you anyway..)because it can be baked down small: FACT
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1253987/0
“Sony Alpha A7r continuous shooting
The Sony Alpha A7r offers two continuous shooting options, continuous at 1.5fps and Speed Priority at 4fps. The Alpha A7 shoots at 2.5fps or 5fps in the same modes. To put them to the test I fitted each with a freshly-formatted Sony 32GB UHS-1 card and set them to 1/500 in Shutter Priority with a 400 ISO sensitivity. In each case I used Speed Priority and their maximum respective resolutions, 36 Megapixels for the A7r and 24 Megapixels for the A7.
Set to Large Fine JPEG, the A7r fired-off 23 frames in 5.54 seconds, corresponding to a speed of 4.15fps, after which it reduced to around 2fps. Set to RAW only the A7r captured 17 frames in 4.13 seconds, corresponding to a speed of 4.11fps. And finally when set to RAW+JPEG Fine it captured 15 frames in 3.49 seconds, corresponding to a rate of 4.29fps. So in each case the A7r essentially met or slightly exceeded its maximum quoted speed of 4fps regardless of the image format, although for bursts limited to 15-23 frames.
Compare these speeds to the Canon EOS 5D Mark III and Nikon D800(e) which in my tests delivered just over 6fps and just over 4fps respectively, the latter set to capture the full image size. So in terms of continuous shooting the A7r roughly matches the D800(e) while the A7 is only slightly out-performed by the EOS 5D Mark III by about 1fps which doesn’t make a huge difference in practice. Of course none of these cameras are designed for sports or action and all of the manufacturers offer faster models if that’s your thing. It’s also worth noting the Olympus OMD EM1 offers 10fps without AF or 6.5fps with AF, although of course it’s shifting much smaller 16 Megapixel files.”
‘:I
Any more FACTS about the pointless diminishment of better image quality from better quality cameras by way of false equivalences assumed beyond the pin pr*ck resolution of reasoned sense in argument so to speak always knowing best the ‘optimization’ ‘sigh’ lol of sensors fromSony’s Other poor departments (if considered even that close)..?
Wool, if worn appropriately, will provide excellent insulation in the winter, yet still allow breathing for comfortable dress in the summer.
I want A7000 with 4k but who knows if/when it will appear? Meanwhile Samsung NX1 is here and starting to discount! Sony give us a clue!
Then buy the NX1.
Admin: I mostly would like to know id 5 axis IS will be in the 7rII? There was a contradicting report awhile back. I’m hoping to use manual lenses.
There is going to be 7 axis IBIS.
Well, this seals the deal.
There’s ABSOLUTELY no way anyone can logically argue that A-mount is still alive.
Sony is still selling it, sure. But they’re DONE developing it.
My prediction which I think is 95%+ accurate:
-Sony may refresh a few more high end lenses and re-release them for A-mount.
-They will not ever develop or release another brand new A-mount lens.
-They will not ever develop or release another A-mount dedicated camera body.
Hank
Thank you Nostradamus.
95% chance of your prediction being inaccurate.
A-mount is dead, agreed.
You know, this is probably true. Sad day for all A-mounters. It’s Dee Eee Aigh Dee. DEAD.
🙁
I’ve been fighting this for a while, but I think you’re right. Alpha mount now means E-mount. Poor Minolta A-mount is a thing of the past.
Arg. u may be right.
Why Sony…just why? yea i agree with you.
Hmm. Maybe not 95%. Maybe 99%.
You are likely very right, but I’m not selling my A-mounts. I’ll use them until they break.
This ^ is true. I can confirm.
I’m the Rumor Guy.
Agree with that. 🙁
A-mount has been DEAD for years.
Really?? So the a77ii is the living dead? lol….
LOLz. Of course. Why are we stating the obvious again?!
A-moutn is dead. Yeah. Anyone who doesnt believe this has their head in the sand or is just an idiot.
Everytime I check out a Youtube video on an a-mount camera I see the signs. You can’t go to practically any website where the “A mount is dead” mantra isn’t being chanted or referred too. There is still hope that Sony could pull out a new business plan for this mount. Given their financial status, I don’t think it’s likely due to restricted resources. Refreshing lenses probably costs very little. It’s also an easy way to take into that small market of users who are still pumping money into the system.
Not even three years ago the system seemed so promising. The A77 was cutting edge- still is- and the A99 with video integration had a lot of initial interest surrounding it. It felt good to shoot A mount. Still does, but there are to many factors to consider:
1) Sony took away OVF. There should still have been an OVF option for full frame users. An A900II. A lot of studio and wildlife photographers refuse to use an EVF.
2) Sony keeps leaving out simple features that make you scratch your head. How about dual card slots on the A77II. D7100 has it and it’s cheap insurance for pro work. Still no dual card slot on A7 series. If it’s full frame it should be standard.
3) SLT barely robs light- but coming out with it at the absolute top of the consumer hype of ISO performance was ill timing. I think it should have been kept for crop sensor cameras and their pro FF bodies stay OVF.
4) The NEVER capitalized on AF Zeiss glass. Four lenses now outclassed in many respects and still no refresh.
Yep, Sony blows.
Good analysis. I disagree on the OVF though, but that’s just me. I find it indispensable on my a99.
Sony has had every opportunity over the past year to really make a statement about the future of A-mount, and they have repeatedly failed to do so. Best case scenario is they’re completely clueless marketers and A-mount is not dead but just on hiatus while the FE is developed. Worst case, it’s already dead (and they’re clueless). Neither option is appealing, but I tend to suspect we’ve seen the end of A-mount as a meaningful pro option going into the future.
Yep!!! A-mount Is DEAD DEAD DEAD.
ITS ALIVE!!!!
Few pros will enter a system without big lens options. A-Mount keeps that potential alive.
A mount is alive.
I will put money on it that it gets released sooner than you think.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. A-mount is at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
It is likely that there will be an a99 successor by Summer. The a99 is a successful camera and if they are going to develop a proper full frame module for a better la-ea SLT adapter than they may as well release an a99-2. Beyond that…it is doubtful.
This is awesome! I am already buying up loads of ludicrously cheap awesome A-Mount glass that is significantly cheaper than even decent legacy glass… Why? Because idiots and internetz means a field day for me 😉
Where are you finding cheap A-Mount glass?
Cheap a-mount glass probably meaning the 18-55 kit lens lol
Or vintage Minolta glass!
Even the vintage high end Minolta glass is not cheap, the low end stuff was cheap then and is cheap now but not the good stuff.
Yes I have a whole swag of 18-55mm kit lenses…
Everywhere that is selling second hand (and a lot new).
The prices have been steady over the last two years on new or used Sony and Minolta glass. There is an occasional good deal to be had but not very often. The lenses for sale on Ebay are demanding high prices, most are from Japan or Korea etc. and may require tariffs and expensive shipping. I don’t want to deal with an overseas seller, if something goes wrong it could turn into a nightmare. I’ve been looking for a long time but haven’t found any cheap good lenses.
Now that you mention it, I’ve seen zero drop off in value of minolta or Sony Zeiss lenses. If there is a drop, it’s because it was overpriced to begin with (50mm zeiss 1.4). However, 200mm 2.8 minolta? Still 800 bucks if you can even find it outside of buy it now ebay crap. A few years ago you could get it for about 5-6. It climbed and still hasn’t come back. 85 Zeiss goes for about 1k no difference there. 135mm is about 1100-1350 depending on condition- zero change. 100 Macro, STF, 300mm 2.8 Mino or Sony- not a chance. I’d like to see everyone dump their stuff as well. Either we got a lot of hopefuls or maybe more people are actually out taking pictures with Sony gear than reading comments all day long. Hmm..who would’ve thought.
I would trade my left testicle for an A7s with IBIS and A-mount instead of E-mount. Reduced rolling shutter couldn’t hurt either.
Wouldn’t that leave you with no testicles?…LOL
Absolutely. And I’m sure it WOULD hurt.
1.Highest resolution AND sensitivity.
2.Autofocus speed and continous tracking with touchscreen selection.
3.Highest rate of continous shooting and responsivity of camera. (convergence without compromise)
4.All weather sealed option across system.
5.Much more useable and direct manual control 🙂 And do not lose the short flange distance which makes adaption possible, ever! Aperture control on all lenses of course.
6. Raw video of course 😀 MP will keep on jumping so settle on one and stick to it once its generally accepted to work on Dynamic range output and presumably high FPS modes…
7. As compact as possible, 18/21mm to 100/120mm f/2.8 weather sealed zoom and fast sharp smooth rendering 200mm+ f/2 AF lens also weather sealed XD
Anyone knows if it is technically possible 3 or 5 axis IBIS in a a6000 size??
No the mount is too small for IBIS.
Yep, the mount is big enough for IBIS.
Shut up! It’s too small for IBIS.
Actually, it’s just right. IBIS will fit fine in E-mount APS-C.
if one saw the teardown of the a7/a7r, one would know that it is just physically impossible to put in IBIS on a body that small from an engineering standpoint. still we hear people ranting about how olympus does 5 axis sensor shifting on the same body size, like hello size difference of the sensors? if possible it would be nice to have, but that would mean adding more than a few millimeters to all of the camera dimensions, and changing the form factor up a bit from being a true compact like what it is now; to a “miniaturized” DSLR styled body, if that even makes a modicum of sense to you guys.
I’d love it, but knowing what’s needed to make it happen, I prefer to keep my feet on the ground
No, there will be no IBIS in E-mount.
There already is.
It may get a bit thicker, but ibis is not only possible but could be more effective with aps-c since their is more room to move the sensor.
it will not. Possibly in a few years, but not now. Look at the A7II, how much bigger the body is due to the 5 axis IBIS.
MyContentSites now represents ~20% of the visible SAR community.
How much richer are we after nearly 150 comments?
What happened to the friendly community that we had a year or so ago?
Why so much negativity for the A mount community?
Having AnimalsbyBarry as the perceived troll/OCD individual around here was comparatively charming to the current vocal SAR crowd.
I miss AnimalsbyBarry. At least the guy did his research.
You are right indeed, AnymalsbyBarry did do his research, although not many listened to him, he stood his ground.
He still does
True, although much of it was outside the realm of reality.
Well, since we all shoot Sony here, I think we can agree that reality is probably priority number 3.
You write as if he has stopped posting here. He posted comments on this site yesterday, so why do you miss him?
No more long rants about stacked sensors. I feel like I’m becoming dumber now.
Will there be a Road Map for small & light E-mount (NOT FE) primes ?
What is your problem with the LA-EA4? You put it on any FF E-mount body, and woila: A-mount is still alive. (and you can also use any other mount lenses with your e-mount camera)
That’s not a real solution. That’s a clumbsy, half-assed solution.
It’s only clumsy because it uses the mediocre AF module from the A57/65.
Add a decent A77II focus module (or better) and design it so it looks and feels like it belongs to the camera, then it will be a far better proposition.
It’s still weird to buy a body and a lens and an adapter to use them together, isn’t it?
It’s a decent solution for current A-Mount lenses owners, not for new customers.
I’m about to find out. I just ordered the Meiki grip and I’m going to rent the LEA4 adapter and give it a swing. I hope it doesn’t turn into a suckfest. However, the new A7II build is very promising. With a much better mount, if they work a bit on designing a more compelling adapter then we may be in business. It needs to look OE, weather sealed and discrete. Maybe even offer a camera that already has a removable adapter so that the design language remains consistent for adopters coming from A mount.
You’re correct, most idiots find it very difficult to use.
Its not a good solution at all. You dont get full AF. You don’ get to use focus magnify. The focus assist light doesnt work. The adapter feels wobbly. The adapter makes the lens too long. And no stabilization. I feel like ppl suggesting using a mount lens on e mount cameras have never used one before. Also, buying emount cameras we’re most likely trying to keep things small.
Wobblies probably have to do with wobbly mount. New A7II should fix that. To small? If your using A mount glass in the first place, small shouldn’t be a top priority. At least you can downsize the camera when you want. Alas, we do need a better adapter though.
the adapter isn’t changing the lens. It makes the camera body longer to equal the flange distance of an A-mount body.
An A7 with battery grip and LA-EA4 handles pretty well, even with bigger A-mount lenses.
The AF module. It uses the old a55 AF module that has only three cross-type points. They should have used at least the one from the a77/a99. The one from the a77mk2 would make it great but nope. They gave us a so-so adapter with more issues than solutions.
I’m the best photographer that’s ever lived. I shoot canon.
You all suck. You’re fake photographers using toy Sony cameras.
*super sarcastic, stupid sounding laugh right here*
You’re wrong, MyContentSites is the greatest photographer that ever lived!
MyContentSites is a portapotty repairman. Not a tog.
It takes a skilled photographer like you to shoot anything decent with canon. Sony makes amateurs like me take great pictures.
haha, good one!
Thanks Andrea, for removing the lunatic’s comments. Now try to keep it up please; this place should be fun to visit 🙂
What lunatic? What have I missed?
I will wait until Feb to hear the news on A-mount at CP+ . I expectation are to know when the A99II will be released. If nothing happens as at Photokina I’m going to think about 4k. Not the resolution but where to invest my money sure not in Sony. But I’m still hoping Sony stand to their statement. They told us wait until feb. So we are, let’s wait
You can buy some troll-ware with the money …
“They told us wait until feb” Source of this statement?
Any rx1 news?
Yes, to be discontinued now that the A7 series has made it redundant.
They released that one a long time ago.
LMFAO
oh man, thats what I’m waiting for too. Please give me an RX1S and I will be happy. I don’t even need an EVF, because in low light, a good screen is all I need.
I want a super slim A99 with new AF covering 80% of the frame. A bit smaller than D750 but with Sony wizardry. Don’t even want 24MP anymore. I’ll take 16 fat megapixels backlit and a buffer so big I can run World of Warcraft throught it while shooting 15 FPS.
I love the enthusiasm! haha
Converters? Does this mean we’ll get an LA-EA5 with no translucent mirror that uses on-sensor phase-detect autofocus? With a motor and screw-drive. That’s what I’m waiting for, personally.
No, we won’t no matter how long you wait.
WTF?! We need more bodies, not lenses!
Funny when talking about Sony, but for A-Mount, its the unfortunate truth. I think with the whole Alpha merge thing, Sony confused themselves into thinking that A-Mount has plenty of bodies and E-Mount has plenty of lenses lol!
We need more full frame A-mount bodies, and a range of sensor resolutions like the A7 series has. Come on Sony, throw us a bone.
We need more A-Mount bodies, period… Only FF bodies are not going to help much. What we essentially need for A-Mount revival it for Sony to bring back A3x and A5x, as well as release A88, A99II, A99IIr and A99IIs. As much as i’d love to see A6x come back, we all could live without it. However having a full range of bodies is a must.
A-Mount has jumped from 7% when Sony took over, to 13%, before Sony killed off the low-end and mid-end. It was a mount with the fastest growth on the market. Why the heck did Sony put it on hold is beyond me. Its like seeing a tree, that you have planted, begin to grow and give fruit, only to encase it in some dark place to hinder its growth.
The recent release of the excellent A77II and several new and updated A-Mount lenses gives me some confidence that Sony will continue to support the A-Mount. I don’t believe they will ever again offer a full range of APS-C cameras, but will concentrate on high end models like the A77II which is quite a bargain and the A99II. Most of Sony’s resources for the past year have been concentrated on E-Mount and they have done a remarkable job with the A7 series. I don’t see any reason why both systems can’t peacefully coexist for the foreseeable future. Sony will likely concentrate on releasing the mark II versions of the A7 series cameras before swinging resources back to A-Mount. They may very well be preparing an A-Mount release now. Time will tell.
“release A88, A99II, A99IIr and A99IIs” good luck with that. Will be lucky to see A99II. lol
I read this website almost every day — which is quite sad, given how busy I am with work — but in spite of the continual rumors of great new features, I’m always on the lookout for a camera body that I can use for many years without needing to upgrade for about 5 years, and just get on with taking great photos without needing to upgrade all the time. I think, in the Sony A6000, I’ve found that. Then, when I upgrade in 5 years time, the tech would have improved by light years.
Sony A6000 has no IBIS? — I have stabilisation in all three of my E-mount lenses (10-18, 16-50, 55-210).
No weather sealing? — I have a rain cape that works great.
Sensor? — The improvement, from year to year, is marginal. If I wait 5 years, I’ll get bang for bucks in the improvement that occurs over a 5 year span.
Focusing? — Even the A7II hasn’t caught up to the A6000’s focusing yet.
EVF? — yes, it’d be nice to get a sharper EVF, but I have to live within my budget.
Better ISO performance? — Probably won’t see great improvement if I upgrade year to year. I’ll bet, however, that in 5 years time, the cumulative improvement will be super.
So I’m doing my best to camp out on the A6000. Maybe I shouldn’t read all these rumor sites, lest I be tempted.
It’s not sad that you read this site all day. That’s about all I do. In fact, I no longer think I work. I go to work to go on SAR. Whatever they are paying me for I have no idea. It’s the perks of a pretty good desk job. I drink coffee and if I wanted I could get away with popcorn at my desk. Being on SAR every day is better than the movies.
Brilliant!
What happened to the hybrid A/E-mount camera? The z-shift camera? The 4K A-mount body?
None of that is real, just figments of Barry’s delusions.
what hybrid A/E-mount camera? Any E-mount camera is an A/E hybrid already.
i just want a new battery with higher capacity. Especially for my E mount…all this new lenses that is coming out..i cant afford it.
My only interest for FE is loxia. I have dreams of an A7RII and 4 loxia lenses sitting perfectly aligned behind the camera on my glass shelf (I’m not joking). 4 shiny loxia..15, 21, 35 and 50. What can I say. Outside of this, I’d actually rather do double duty with A mount glass or go retro.
do you have at least the glass shelf already?
Yes sir!
What do you supposedly especially like about loxia over other E-mount adaptions?
Stop asking for A-mount bodies and lens. A-mount is dead. Long live E-mount
I want A mount bodies, lenses AND flashes !!!
I’d be happy for FE 85/1.8 or 135/1.8