So far trusted sources told me no photo camera (A or E-mount) should come at CES. The big focus will be at CP+. But I got multiple reports that Sony will announce new camcorders and also something else:
“4K ActionCams coming to CES. Very sure of this. I saw the content go up in the booth…”
You may think this is not an interesting news but did you know the most sold cameras worldwide are not DSLR, not mirrorless, not compacts…but actioncameras? Just check the Amazon digital camera sales ranking (Click here). This will be a big news for Sony. The rumor also got confirmed via ActionCameraRumors.
And Sony launched also a countdown for the live streaming that you can follow on Ustream or directly here on SAR (I will embed the video). The event starts at 5pm Las Vegas time (January 5th). This is…
8pm New York time
01.00 London time (January 6)
02:00 Berlin time (January 6)
10:00 Tokyo time (January 6)
And do not forget that there will be a big A and E-mount announcement in just one month right before the CP+ show that starts on February 12th. Stay tuned!
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I hope it has a flat lense. The bented ones are useless for diving.
Obviously you don’t know how a “lens” work, or you would want a way more narrower FOV.
did you know…that i want a APS-C 4k camera…so wait till 2029?
Sony works all around NOT to BRING a GOOD APS-C cam..hm..why?
( think a bit about fs-100…fs-700…and so on)
since 2010 they did only produce lowteccrap in this place… all for the customers..
hallllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo is ther anybody out here?
no….
Maybe the demand for an APS-C 4k camera isn’t that great???
I think the demand would be huge. Aps-c is the size of cinema film. Just look at the gh4, it brought 4k early and got people switching from their full frame 5ds. I think the problem is that Sony wants to protect its motion camera line-up, which uses aps-c e mount, and possibly the a7s.
if Sony makes an a6000 update with 4k and a mic jack, it will sell like hot cakes.
The reason why Canon and Nikon continue to stay on top of the pro world is because they focus far more narrowly on their product, especially at the pro level. For Sony, pros are only an afterthought. Even cameras are but a branch of their business. Both Canon and Nikon live or die by their cameras. Sony could easily survive without them so there’s less impetus for them to excel. That’s why they are all over the map. As an example, I’d love to know the sales figures for the A7 compared to the A7R. If I’m right and the A7R outsold the A7, why did they even bother with an A7 II. Why not just an A7R II? Lack of an AA filter was a major selling point for the A7R. Why did they put it back on the A7 II?
Easily? Doubt it.
Wishful thinking, Sony is quickly putting the technological pieces together that will propel them past the competition. “less impetus” that’s hogwash, and what has Nikon and Canon been focusing on lately; a blank wall? You’re right about one thing, and that’s the fact that Canon and Nikon will die by their cameras lack of innovation.
I don’t call producing tiny cameras for tiny hands at the expense of slow focus “innovation.” I don’t call developing an entirely new lens lineup, at the expense of a highly respected existing one “innovation.” Nor do I buy into the notion that every photographer wants video. I dare say less than 50% of prosumer and pro photographers shoot video, yet we have to pay for all those development costs and all the space on the camera. Imagine the REAL innovation Sony could have done if it stuck with A-Mount and left video to another department.
“Oh, we won’t give in, let’s go living in the past” – Jethro Tull
Cute… but it doesn’t refute anything I said.
Why bother refuting it, you’re incorrect in your analysis. Video is the future, even where stills cameras are concerned.
You know nothing about photography, do you? You also speak like the geeks in the big bang theory, do you pull a lot?
Gotta agree with the dissenters. Digital lends itself to dual-purpose. When you even have Pentax putting video on their medium format body, you know that train has left the station. I can’t see anybody trying to sell a DSLR w/o good video on it these days, except the Nikon DF, which is totally niche.
The problem is, you are debating with fauxtographers or marketing shills…
Stolen my term I see it.
With he being the fauxtographer and you being the marketing shill.
It’d be difficult to refute, because it’s just an opinion, hardly arguments or facts. Not a great come back there.
“Innovation” is only a marketing buzzword. C and N make useful tools, while Sony consumer electronics make toys; they totally lost the plot after the A900. I’d buy the useful tool with superior performance any day.
This guy is troll.
Can you show superior photo from your tools ?
What I heard from the camera store staff, A7 outsold A7R.
Because A7 is cheaper, faster AF, less shutter noise & vibration.
Also, not many people need a 36Mp sensor, 24Mp is already good enough for most people.
Well, in some ways that makes a lot of sense. The type of person who wants the extended detail you get from large file sizes and without an AA filter is willing to pay a little more. Let’s face it, most camera stores sell on price, not quality and features. For me, there’s just nothing in the A7 feature set, or E-Mount for that matter, that compels me to pull the trigger. I’m waiting on the A9, but not holding my breath. I’ll probably stick with my A900 for a while yet.
More power to you for sticking with your A900 for so long. I wish I had your patience. I’m ready to mutiny because there’s no A99 replacement after 26 months.
A7 sold for 6 months before A7R. if A7 is a flop, then they will never launch A7R. so how can A7R sell more than A7, considering it is 50% higher price and launch 6 months later. Oh man. that gerrycurry is so funny.
Like Lamborghini & Ferrari but Sony are smart following the Nissan route, they offer more products for a larger cross section of the user group. Plus, that NISMO is no slouch.
This post gets funnier and funnier every time a different hick with a Nikon posts it. Good day.
Buddy, you’re barking up the wrong tree. I’ve shot Minolta, and then Sony since the 70’s.
Great a hick with an A900… Woot! One that still believes it costs substantially to include video in cameras, you do our brand proud.
Your brand? Do you own a brand? Have you ever taken photographs?
No never.
Do you feel more powerful when you call people names? As for your actual statement, although it doesn’t cost substantially more to add video technology to the camera itself, the development costs, which we all pay for whether we use them or not, are substantial. My cameras are tools. I use them every day and make money from them. I only invest in newer tools when they can do a better job for me. So far, nothing in the NEX/A7 or E-Mount line does so. I do not dispute that they may do so for some… but not for me.
And if Sony develop them (which they will because they are a Pro video business) then that cost is fixed, why would they NOT include them in a camera? As for your tools… well everyone has their favourite screwdriver with buckled handle and grip falling off. It doesn’t mean it is the best tool…
As for calling names… Well off-topic unsolicited opinions from stick-in-the-mud types are all I get to read these days, because THESE types in particular think their opinions are worth sharing… constantly.
Stay on topic and have something to discuss about THIS rumour, or don’t say anything. Pros use action cameras. Sony is huge in pro video. This camera is potentially a big deal. It also marks a big leap in the transition to 4K. Whining about A7’s and how they should make ‘the great A900’ again is so completely irrelevant you deserve some kind of jab.
How much is that “substantial”? Saying so doesn’t make it so. As far as I can see the Nikon Df is not substantially cheaper for not having video. Actually, it is substantially more expensive than a slew of FF cameras which do feature video.
The kids, especially in Asia are shooting mirrorless, and creating motion content. Birders and wildlife photographers are a minuscule minority limited to middle-aged white males. Sony will cater to the larger user group, smart business move no.
I have no doubt that market research directs Sony’s development and I have no doubt that they will sell tons of these devices in the markets they are catering to. That said however, I don’t see a mad rush of pro sports photographers, photojournalists, nature and landscape photographers, or any other pro field rushing to buy into E-Mount. Yes, there is a small core of pros using them, but it’s still very small indeed.
Look at newsshooter.com Gerry.
Thanks for this. I suggest you read this: http://tinyurl.com/pgo48vq
My point is that videography is an entirely different ball game. It requires a completely different set of tools AND skills. Just because your camera is capable of shooting great video doesn’t mean that YOU are capable of shooting great video. it’s requires a unique skill set. I do not believe it is possible to be both a top notch photographer and a top notch videographer, especially on the same shoot.
True, but if you are already a top-notch stills shooter why not use the skills you have reference lighting and composition and apply those to video? The budgets for most professional stills shooters are all but gone, video is on the rise, budgets are healthy, demand is there. The wedding industry understands this, many top wedding photographers are now shooting video and are commanding higher day-rates too. The video DSLR revolution was after-all started by the still photographer Vincent Laforet.
http://www.laforetvisuals.com
Take a good look at YouTube, the kids are producing some amazing content with little to no training. It’s not our day anymore, these guys are genuinely multi-disciplined.
You may be right Cedric. I am now almost exclusively a nature and landscape fine art photographer. My work is in several galleries and I put on a one man show once a year that is well received. I’ve retired from commercial work unless something comes up that interests me. I use the video function on my RX100 for the odd personal video shoot I make, but I have no interest in investing in all the gear to shoot pro video. What’s important is that I’m happy with the way things are. Frankly, if I had my druthers, and the cash, I’d probably opt for a Phase 1 and move to MF.
You and I have become the niche user user Gerry, we are not in the majority anymore!
You could surely always still concentrate on a certain subject and then work in different media in recording them. (that’s my plan 🙂
Yeah…now just tell that to Buster Keaton XD
I don’t condone talk of separating media out to specialists as stated above and in fact i think the processing of raw images in relation to colour accuracy etc could be improved by engagement with both stills and video workers: hence i really am against the idea that they must be separate in the given practioner’s work not just myself advocating combination which i do of course because moving images are now up with stills thanks to internet and wifi data bandwidth (if thats the right way to say it) allowances present and future..I advocate mastery of the whole of your arts!
And you don’t possess the skills for videography so why should anyone listen to you. Stick to stills and keep your old camera and be happy, but don’t come here spewing your senseless rhetoric looking for validation. At this point you’re just trolling and making a fool of yourself.
“I do not believe it is possible to be both a top notch photographer and a top notch videographer, especially on the same shoot.”
I would disagree with that. It is very possible and actually easier to achieve as there are plenty of common aspects between the two.
Really? And how good are you?
Remember the early 1990’s, digital is a fad, it’ll never catch on? We’re here again, this time its about video integration in a pro stills workflow and the adoption of mirrorless cameras is only part of it. Its ride the wave, or be left floundering in the surf time again.
OK Dave, lets talk about some other fads, all from Sony, supplied by someone else in this thread:
Compact Disc (1982)
3.5 inch Floppy disk (1982)
Betacam SP (1986)
Digital Betacam (1993)
Betacam SX (1996)
DVCAM (1996)
HDCAM (1997)
Memory Stick (1998)
Digital8 (1999)
MicroMV (2001)
HDCAM SR (2003)
XDCAM (2003)
Universal Media Disc (2004)
Blu-ray Disc (2006)
With the exception of Memory Stick and Blue-ray, all of these great innovations are now on the scrapheap. No one else adopted Memory Stick and even Sony is moving to SD, while Blue-ray is just about dead too. How long will mirrorless and even E-Mount last? I don’t see any mad rush by others to adopt these miniaturized devices… at least, not at the pro level.
Those are evolutionary steps on the digital journey Gerry, digital isn’t some creationists dream, its an evolution of ideas, a series of steps and mis-steps. I was involved in one or two of those, namely Betamax, which long after its consumer demise was still widely used in pro-video circles for many years in the form of Betacam, then digital beta.
Cedric, in my “other life” I was a computer systems engineer for over 30 years, working with the visual arts and printing industries. I’m intimately acquainted with all those old technologies, and many more. These are just Sony’s.
Engineers (myself included) are often the last to recognize future innovation.
Hahaha, and i suppose you know what impact such as home recordable CD’s had in making high quality recording available and inexpensive?
And well fads? The fad of ‘pro’ user vs the commoner with as good equipment or rather now better equipped. In respect of pro shouldn’t we now talk more of users of Medium format etc as ‘pros’ due to expense and skills specific to those media as the new ‘pro’ benchmark. Regards the terror of desktop publishing ruining textual presentation? well i guess the internet happened lol
Minidisc was actually good too with random access and even recordable media but too pro level to succeed widely at the time? i do remember a lot of pro gear exploiting its storage potential and quality in innovative ways around the time though all the same 🙂
Yes, Steve Jobs put a large boot behind the desktop computing industry with his love for typography and we all benefit from that.
I don’t understand what that even means, the way type was displayed with anti-aliasing on early Macintosh was borrowed from Acorn computers like the sort we had at school anyway…:) hence leaders don’t always succeed either XD
However, in Apples defence, Acorn copied ‘Bomberman’ from Hudson Soft in the form of ‘Moonquake’ :I
Jobs’ actually studied and appreciated good design when others couldn’t comprehend anything other than number crunching. Sounds familiar?
I dont know anything about Jobs sorry, talking to the wrong guy lol
But anyone of my age may actually have some interest in Sony and the obvious pleasure which can be brought by owning and shooting photography with these new cameras from Sony much like playing or making on all the great consoles of youth for instance:The Power Of Playstation XD
I’m making you mad aren’t I jack? XD no compatibility with all the new games? poorly designed phone games get tired quickly? try PC or a dedicated device that functions for what it is used for XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBVatvDJOM
No, we’d rather play poker with biker-chicks kid.
Are you sure your sisters will be into that with you? XD
It’s part of your tech history, shame on you.
The problem with Minidisc was it wasnt pro level, it was consumer level audio quality in a pro level device. So no pro would buy it for audio recording, but it was a nice floppy drive. DAT was a audio standart that did work and still does.
Yes, it was used on some gear for sample storage as data i think or something.
eeeh… okay?
Sony MDM-X4 Mini Disc Multi Track Recorder. 🙂
I still have my Amiga 4000 and syquest 44mb discs. Just can’t get the driver for my scsi controller. We are accessing random memory now right?
MIDI (short for Musical Instrument Digital Interface) has been extremely long lived 🙂
”MIDI technology was standardized in 1983 by a panel of music industry representatives, and is maintained by the MIDI Manufacturers Association (MMA).”
I make my music wholly in the ‘virtual studio’ way and have done since Steinberg came up with VST plugins: in special all in one virtual studios that accept those plugins, first Orion Pro then using FL Studio 🙂 But MIDI is still used for hardware instruments. after all this time! (VST has been updated but still used also 🙂 Now, question is…how do we get ALL the procanikons and sigpanpentonypus together to discuss a future universal mount together without initiating the third world war 😀 P.S. is that correct for plural? :I
Problem is…that requires a more sophisticated protocol and makes old one redundant and potentially incompatible. Also the new one wont have timing problems, it could be next to zero latency with new protocol, this is what will happen with all protocols in time surely, updates and new important features with them…unless its apple or adobe who get their hands on it!!! XD
He’s too young to remember those blue Syquest disks flying between service bureaus add agencies via FedEx overnight boxes.
Blue? Weird copper brown are the ones I got? I remember blue/purple 100mb zip drives but they where very hip modern tech compared to the Syquests. But yes nervous couriers at the door picking things up trying to get through rush hour, life was much more fun without wetransfer… well not really a few months ago I finished and uploaded a project 15 minutes before they had to show it at a conference. They forgot a name and only found out that morning, thank god it was only a 1 hour render….
You’re correct, I was thinking blue for Zip. We’re getting old………. 🙂
True, we are talking about the time a nikkormat stil looked like a desirable piece of kit 🙂 And lightroom was a darkroom where I used to load 42 shots on each roll to piss off the lab hah.. anyway.
Megadrive: very very fast and sharp high resolution. Fancy sprite and parallax functions. Great games like bomberman XD
Snes: Lots of colours with fuzzy anti aliasing and high storage by compression of data onto cartridges. 3D capable through FX chips in carts. Best if from US. XD Not used much in UK 🙂 Great late era releases.
Amiga: More expensive than console? Used Atari ST if i could get games to play from demo disks on it
Amiga was used for live video titles and animation, used Amigas from ’85 till ’96 crazy really. It can still do some real time shizzle my 12 core mac has trouble with, although it does it at a lower resolution / color depth but still: 40mhz processor VS 10.000mhz+? Switching between screens and software was instant, no OS ‘thinking’ delay like on OSX where everything has ben double checked by the system and sometimes keystrokes are dropped because the system thinks they might be errors.. hah effin progress 🙂
Yes, fast response on cam software etc would be excellent.
The beauty of digital information is that you can always back it up on new media in identical form but best have a process as some media storage does become defunct or even fail: even a major library had problems with all of its data that meant a massive amount of money and effort was required to retrieve the data again. With wifi and verification of the data you could assure nothing is ever lost when you just upload it to a cloud and various places from where ever you are directly.
Compression and codecs may cause problems and in this sense the image quality could count too, for that Sony is already exemplary 😀
The current raw compression is perhaps useful for file size constraints but obviously an option for uncompressed would be great. 🙂
E-mount with the a7* series has only been around for a year, why the big expectations? XDCAM is still very popular and great standart, I use it a lot, HDcam, still in use.
What’s the argument here? That because some innovations fail, so Sony’s e-mount will fail?
No, not at all. Very few of those innovations failed. They either never gained critical mass or were quickly superceeded and fell by the wayside.
Only time will tell, but remember that Sony doesn’t have much of a track record for sticking with technology that doesn’t rapidly take off, and given the overall photography market, E-Mount has yet to attract significant market share. It’s still early days, but time marches on and the overall photography market is in a general downturn as the average camera user starts to just use his/her phone.
In general, yes. How much that will prove to be true for their cameras is anyone’s guess though, as e-mount is not much of a technology, merely a shorter mount. Also, their camera gear, unlike Blu Ray, mini disc etc. could be sufficient in and of itself and doesn’t require the same level of adoption by 3rd party manufacturers to be successful.
Currently, e-mount should be having the biggest market share of all mirrorless, including m43 which started years earlier and is supported by two companies.
CD, XDCam, HDCam on the scrapheap? Really? Since when? If you want to pretend you are talking facts, you better make sure you are talking facts and not just another overblown opinion to make a point.
that is why you are a no body.
But that makes sense right? It really is only a year old platform, I only got into it because of the video capabilities and only to test the water so to speak. The biggest drawback for any pro is the lenses, no fast zooms and slow Af speed when using an adapter. I love the A7S for video and got a a6000 for my photo fun, but the damn thing needs a blimp for nature shooting.
And you’re still stuck in the 70’s. (hair style) LOL
Narrowly on their product?
A quick and somewhat unnecessary comparison with some of their other activities…
Sony has done well with its dedicated gaming products in the form of the powerful Playstation consoles since their introduction.
…PlayStation was the brainchild of Ken Kutaragi, a Sony executive who had just come out of his hardware engineering division at that time and would later be dubbed as “The Father of the PlayStation”.
…Sony’s Kazuo Hirai: ‘high resolution audio is the future of music’
…ultimate sensitivity, ultimate resolution and ultimate speed
If you put those together you actually get OBJECTIVELY better image quality rather than endless arbitrary abstractions through subjective and falsely based and irrelative equivalences like: APSC produces images with as good image quality as that of 35mm camera sensor for image quality.
and for what its worth…why not?
List of Notable Sony Formats:
Compact Disc (1982)
3.5 inch Floppy disk (1982)
Betacam SP (1986)
Digital Betacam (1993)
Betacam SX (1996)
DVCAM (1996)
HDCAM (1997)
Memory Stick (1998)
Digital8 (1999)
MicroMV (2001)
HDCAM SR (2003)
XDCAM (2003)
Universal Media Disc (2004)
Blu-ray Disc (2006)
This list pretty much sums up my career, I used a lot of Sony gear since 1980. Nikon photo gear, Sony video gear, it only needs two additions: U-Matic and BVU. CD was a Philips invention co-developed with Sony and only made it to market because of Sony.
All this talk about what sony does not understand when they have been dominated so many fields and standarts for so long.
You are out of touch with technology and the new world man. Hang up your boots.
‘:I
And there was i wondering how i might emulate some old technology for fun :I I know! i’ll emulate APS film camera by getting an APSC Sony to use instead of my Sony A7R: too new to be retrocool XD
I missed a Lynda update or something? :I
This is a ‘test water’ approach. Soon will see mark two for A7R/S and stunt the world!
Well, that is one theory why Canikon are on the top. There are others too, some of them better.
Well no, the most sold cameras are phones and considering that action cameras are using essentially the same technology but with an UWA lens they should be more or less in the same grouping.
The future is: FE 24-105 f4 OSS
Now let’s get onboard 4k recording in the new bodies as well. Can’t let Panasonic continue to steal the show.
YES someone a positive critique at last. +1000%
Everyone still waiting on A9 and A7000 rumors. Also, any rumors of an 85mm FE and a better mid-range zoom than the 24-70 FE would be very nice.
A7S FTW!
MK2 i meant!
An allegedly leaked spec sheet describes a new Color Sampling sensor of fairly low resolution and small size that might be ideal to introduce in these new action cams.
Could this be where we will see the first version of this new sensor technology?
May be.
A Sony competitor to GoPro maybe, that would be interesting, especially as I am tempted to do some testing of these drones that are getting more and more popular lately
4K for the masses is here. A99II should then have 8K.
Your mom for the masses is here, domb fck, lel
Hulk no longer funny. Hulk use insult cause hulk out of joke(s). He make self look stupid on computer in mom’s basement. Oh no, mommy come and wipe the drool off his face…nappy nappy time.
Don’t feed the troll Hulk.
Hulk..please do not make personal insults to people…there are plenty of comments you can make that do not insult people.
Always remember..WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.
its true with the action cams…so many of my friends have gopro.. dough they dont actually do much “action” with it. Ive seen plenty of fisheye landscapes lately 😀 Dont know why they just dont get an Rx100 v1 for the price…well,whatever 😀
For the same reason why people continue to buy Canon and Nikon.
Do you know why people buy Canon and Nikon? Do you know the difference between useful tools and gadgets? Do you take photos yourself? I know the three answers, sad boy.
Lol.
(SR4) Sony to announce that all A7r users will get a full credit for their lossy compression and shutter shake prone cameras. The funds will be paid from the salaries of Sony trolls that normally stalk users on these boards making childish statements in complete denial of well documented faults of Sony cameras.
For the right price, I think I’d consider picking up an A7R and wouldn’t be suprised to see it going for less than 1300 in the next 6 months. For all it’s faults, you can squeeze some awesome performance out of it at a bargain basement price. For pro work though, I’d skip completely.
You’re right to some degree but the thing is once you compare some Sony and Nikon files it’s hard to ‘unsee’ what’s missing in the Sony files. After that the A7r makes little sense. Any point and shoot will do just fine and why not get one with built in GPS, flash and half the size. If you’re going to make a compromise it should be universal. The Sony lossy files will always be an issue. I never bothered to look but if Fujifilm has true 14 bit files that would be my first stop.
For 98% of the cases you don’t have a problem with the lossy compression. Since having the A7ii we did the same to those files as we did to the D810 files. As you usually have only 4-8ev in exposure difference across neighbouring points there is no problem. And in the rare case I get some posterization in the sky (same with Nikon files) I brush in some tiny amount of noise in PS and it’s gone. For star trails or fireworks I saw some issues but only if pushing clarity and sharpness to levels beyond reason. The best test I have seen is the one of blog.kasson.com. He really pushed the issue to make artefacts seen.
those so called pro , are those that took some shots with poor settings, and try to recover back in LR or adobe? might as well set to ‘A’, shoot and pray, then spend 99% of the time in PS.
Pro. LOL
Yeah, think it’s about time I get on that Nikon train. D810 is looking pretty nice to me right now. I’ll stay with Sony, but fast glass…the occassional paid work I do…I’m starting to think A mount just isn’t coming back to life.
Ditching the ‘pros’ would JUST mean no bulky camera with conversely degraded image quality and associated zero expectation of effective images always used JUST to hide their inefficiency satisfactorily and so they can carry a heavy cam with a weeks battery JUST in case they forget to even shoot anything till the last day on the way back to the hotel from tasting the delicacies at the local donuteria and still have something sleeker and smaller than a ‘real pros’ medium format camera to carry on their lazy bones back to the ‘real job’ they do all JUST to call themselves ‘pros’ and denigrate the art form of photography and those who purport to follow that instead in their choice of equipment.
This is a Sony place regards Sony equipment, i’m sick of hearing about canikon in denigrating tones regards my own choice of camera and nothing else but inflammatory inversions of what is in fact great about Sony camera equipment..By all means state the exact reason that the system is deficient but not generalizations that rotate upon that well worn circular ‘pros’ use the other system argument ‘so it must be the case’. What do ‘pros’ know anyway? they can surely demonstrate in well reasoned argument just as well as in ‘profession’.
I have no idea what you just said other than it was awesome:)
…D810…but fast glass…
Yes SOny A7 cameras are awesome and im glad to hear you think it to as reflected in your choice of them at least potentially if you dont get D810 for …fast glass…paid work…
As your new Sony equipment advocate, ive done a little hard work for you (not really, i didnt bother to verify anything and it was interesting and funny to see how off the mark a ‘pro’ could be)
prices listed on first return from search on amazon: DO NOT BUY FROM AMAZON: listed for reference only:
AF-S NIKKOR 24mm f/1.4G ED *36* on D810 vs *34* Samyang 24mm f/1.4 ED AS UMC Nikon
*36* *34*
1 used from £2,299.99 VS 8 new from £363.60
AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.4G *35* DXO on D810 vs Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM A *42* DXO on D810
*35* *42*
2 new from £1,178.00 VS 11 new from £636.00
AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G vs Zeiss 55mm f/1.8…lets ignore this one or call it a tie i guess for the dignity of Nikon ‘pro’ users such as your future ‘speculative’ self
um… That’s what the ‘pros’ are dismissing?!?
1 new from £299.00 VS 10 new from £511.40
SO i guess youve considered the sigmayang system…at least while used only on Nikon D810 camera for the…very similar sensor to Sony A7R?
£3776 Nikon lenses for Nikon D810 (Currently unavailable.) or you could get that £5552 (bhphotovideo) Pentax 645Z Medium Format DSLR Camera with no tax added and body only
OR
£1510 Sigmayangzeiss lenses for Sony A7R (12 new from £1,299.00) = £2809
why wait?! with those lenses that have lower image quality and no Nikon body (cough £1958 before tax @ bhphotovideo) to use them on and save a whole £182 on present digital medium format body! what have you got to lose?
(save that money or could get a lens to use on your shiny new medium format digital camera instead!)
smc PENTAX-FA 645 200mm F4 (IF) From Japan(n-195)
£167.66
+ £25.99 postage) havent checked if it will work or anything though…Nikon would all work out of the box…once it arrives…
Yeah…JUST go with Nikon %$£& Sony and their unprofessional line of products.
And stop berating Sony A7 cameras and their users thanks.
“well documented faults” That made my day! You are still beating that horse? Canon, Nikon, Olympus and Pentax should’ve committed seppuku by now, according to your… well, whatever it is.
He’s the Forrest Gump of this forum………. but we love him purely for the entertainment and not so much the sport of WHACKING him every-time he opens his yap!
Stupid is………….
Man you talk sh*t…
(SR5) Sony’s Greatest WTF moments – Betamax – Mini Disc – Alpha and NEX lossy file compression
I see you don’t have a point.
ONCE AGAIN!
Ever heard of a Betacam? Your insights take ignorance to the next level. Are you actually in education, you rationalize like an educator……. You for sure aren’t in professional imaging OF ANY KIND!
Sony really needs to put it together. For their reputation and Zeiss. I like the action cam mini, but am disappointed the fact that the lens is so blurry. Even at 1080p 60p 50Mbps the distant objects are so blurry you cant see any details. No sharpness. Completely out of focus. Then branding it zeiss lens really brings the reputation down. Even if Sony come out with 4K ActionCams but the video is still blurry whats the point. You will just have a detailess larger file.
stop showing your stupidity here.
If you cant see the sample above put on your grandma’s glasses. Go buy the same cam and test it. Otherwise shut up. This site is for sharing rumors and helping others through personal experience and knowledge. Not for looking at comments you can crap on. If it doesn’t help you scroll on. Or show us with your samples that the camera is sharp and focused on distant objects. That would help people see if their camera is defective or im right about everything i said.
It would be nice to have a remote option for internal focusing option- CLOSE UP FOCUS and -INFINITE FOCUS (FAR).
Here is a sample picture of a paused video. My brothers playing in a band. The screen is a macbook retina 13 so 2560 X 1600 res. Video is set to max quality: XAVC S 1080p 50M 60P/SCENE (NORMAL)/VIVID/STEADYSHOT (ON). You cant even see the kids faces. Sony where is the sharpness? Where is the focus? Zeiss?!
The dollar in the picture is to show that the picture is in focus and im not making stuff up about no focus and no sharpness. I focused on video and put the dollar to the screen. You can even zoom in on the screen pixels.
F-Stop ?
If below F5.6 is user error.
Are you play in fullscreen mode or fit 1080p ratio?
If play in fullscreen is user error.
Its an action camera. Its a fixed lense. No auto focus. You cant change the aperture.
Actually having a higher resolution screen makes it better not worse.
The image clearly shows a DOF effect …
That said, you would benefit from learning photography basics so as to avoid mistakes likes these.
Sorry i haven’t stated specifically what camera was used. all of you have miss understood.
This is the Sony Action Cam Mini HDR-AZ1. There are no lens adjustments. No auto focus. No manual focus.
dont spend a single cent on anything called camera. just stick to your iphone. heck, even iphone is a waste in the hand of a f__l
Perfect. Have been holding out buying an action cam as this is the next logical step. Should produce sharper 1080 footage as well.
On the wishlist, might as well launch another model with Full HD 1080p only but with a larger sensor, meaning larger pixels for better noise control. :p