Reminder: 3 days only until the new A7rII ships at in USA at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, SonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto!
BBC camera man Johnnie Behiri posted the A7rII first impression review from a film makers point of view on Cinema5D. And he simply say:
Let me summarise it for you in two sentences:
– Sell your A7s (or any other photo camera that shoots video you currently have)
– Buy the new Sony A7rII ….
LOL 🙂
For him the A7rII “is currently the best photo camera that shoots video in the market“. Here is a video he shot with the A7rII:
One more thing: Uniquephoto (Click here) organized a special A7rII launch event with Sony Artisans. If you cannot participate don’t worry, there is a livestreaming too.
And there is also a first super-super-superkit A7rII buy option at Amazon US (Click here).
A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, SonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.
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nice video
THE A7RII HYPE – SHOULD A7/R/S USERS MAKE THE $3200 UPGRADE?
,,In this article we’ll look at 5 issues on whether existing Sony A7, A7R, and A7S users should or should not upgrade to the A7RII.”:
http://ilovehatephoto.com/2015/06/24/breaking-down-the-a7rii-hype-should-a7rs-users-make-the-3200-upgrade/
Nicely done. What quality is that playing back at? Couldn’t see it on Vimio. Would love to see that graded!
There’s a graded version on Cinema 5D. Still made a few odd choices in their colour looks, if you ask me (decided to wash out the shadows and tint them blueish, like some people’s idea of a Polaroid – perhaps not the best choice for a camera test).
https://vimeo.com/135167560
where can i buy that rediculuous huge eyecup!
You can diy it , use a seagull adapter for mounting + Hoodeye eyecup .
I wonder if Sony releases cheaper model without shutter and IBIS and cheaper (or no) EVF.
With the 12mp sensor?
this is exactly what I did yesterday
Too flat and too soft for my eyes. And this bluish tone… no, not this time!
That’s just the grading, not inherent to the camera. Not really sure why they chose that look for what is essentially a camera test – would have been better to just show a more neutral look in post, IMO. Either that or you watched the ungraded footage, which was probably shot in S-log (deliberately very flat/low contrast/saturation to preserve dynamic range for grading afterwards).
Normal, the linked video is the ungraded one 🙂
here’s the graded one: https://vimeo.com/135167560
Any other graded version that is more neutral?
You can download the link video to do your own grading 😉 (that’s what is said in the description).
But that would require some effort on his part, it’s so much easier to sit back and criticize.
Oh — ok, thanks! 🙂
that’s just the grading.
It does look better to my eye than any other stills camera with video. Not sure about some of the grading, but if you look beyond that, seems very decent indeed.
It’s interesting how the video reviews of the A7R II are so much quicker off the mark than those as a still camera which is surely what most will see it as. Perhaps it’s a reflection of the current world. The immediacy of video which can be its own showcase, explanation and narrative. In contrast, the world of the still photography review is one that is slave to other means than the image. It relies far more one the use of other means of communication; the written and the video. That takes time and it cannot self-narrate, except in the limited vocabulary of those frozen snapshots.
Video is the emerging great field where things change drastically. Still stuff has advanced so far that very thorough investigation is needed to see the complete benefits.
I’d like some more information regarding firmware.. is there a difference to the current models?
I hate to say it, but I don’t find this as impressive as everyone is making it out to be – especially regarding dynamic-range. Sure, it has good range, but the colour-science just isn’t there to back it up. The colours are very thin – typical of 8bit. If people are impressed by this, then I guess they haven’t used even the lowliest Blackmagic Camera (BMPCC) – it trumps this hands down. As a stills camera, the A7RII is a masterpiece. For video, I dunno, just looks like a lot of the other 8bit cameras trying to punch above their weight. I won’t be selling my A7S anytime soon either.
Yeah. BMPCC can shoot RAW which is way too complicated for what the beeb has become to cope with and if you’ve got the A7s I think you are probably more interested in stills.
i don’t care about resolution, i enjoy the better iso perfomances of my a7s 😛
While I admire the cinematography and want the camera, even the graded looks muddy and doesn’t look so great. I’m always a tad skeptical when a “test” is sponsored by a company that sells it. I’m talking here about the superlatives of best video etc. It may be true but being paid however indirectly tarnishes the endorsement.
I’m always a tad skeptical when a poster starts a negative comment by stating “I want the camera but”.
And so you should be. I think it is me not trusting people who try to sell me things, and when it is sponsored, that’s what it feels like in a way. I’ve been wanting this camera for a long time but…I will look at other sources. I wasn’t to negative. Trying to be balanced.
On the other hand, BH sells myriad brands/types of equipment. Sure, they have a vested interest in people buying cameras from them, but they don’t have a vested interesting in people buying THIS camera from them.
couldnt that be more of the grading used in the film?
Maybe the A7sII doesn’t exist after all, what else is there to make it greater than the A7rII now?
I really doubt that they can increase the ISO range on that while increasing the MP count for 4k in APS-C.
Then instead of focusing on video feature, how about turn into a high speed beast?
Super high ISO, Super high frame rate and auto-focus.
Maybe throw in dual card slot and tiny touch screen for af point selection right near your thumb to make some people please. Then that’s A7sII ( sensational or super fast) .
Global Shutter is almost unecessary at this point, the tech on RX series basically works like global shutter, they just need to improve processing to be able to always use this mode which I am pretty sure that is improbable with today’s tech, TCSTV review said that in high-speed mode battery life goes down to less than a hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksB5U84AQuE
If they made that possible now the camera doesn’t even need a mechanical shutter anymore.
High speed, high sensitivity? Faster AF, wider AF, stacked sensor for faster continuous shooting (stills/video), next-gen BIONZ for HEVC, lossless RAW, 10 bit video as well as better battery life. Further, ergonomics improvements with touchscreen, more custom buttons, more programmable shooting settings. Better weatherproofing…
Nothing to update you say?
Higher frame rates would be sweet too. 🙂
What you are asking for is the A9 not the A7sII, why would they ditch the form factor for a mark II that is currently following the same design?
We still don’t know the AF speeds on this camera, forget HEVC, even die hard fans of NX1 admits that is PITA to deal with that thing, RAW comes with firmware easily, and they can’t adopt the A-mount battery with the A7 form factor. And seriously from the Rx series we can see that BSI/stacked sensor alone won’t improve DR.
If you read again my comment, I’m talking about a hypothetical A7sII for this year.
IBIS, speed and even higher quality video.
It’s just a grade people. Next time they’ll get everyones preferred looks and put all 700 videos out.
lol – so f’n stupid haing a video like this with that terrible grade to show how good a camera is. What is wrong with people, every full size pic, every video etc to show the new camera has had terrible, terrible, terrible processing. Hellooooooo?
Go find a raw file (both photo and ungraded s-log2 video have been made readily available) and process them how you would prefer, and the masses will see them when we check your website every day like we always do.
Go fu ck your self.
Behiri posted the ungraded version. You’re free to download, grade and show us all how its done. https://vimeo.com/135176769
People are free to display natural looking rendering when displaying something within the context of a review.
Darn… Having the A7S (w Shogun) and A7R, I imagined I could sit this one out. But now I really struggle. It’s a nice struggle, but a hard one anyhow.
Don’t worry! The Shogun output is still much much much nicer, and you get a bigger frame for the video. Plus all those high sensitivity goodies.
Yeah, I know you are right. Just got a slew of the good old GAS. 🙂 (And I have a couple of old S35 cine lenses that would absolutely shine on the A7RII.) Well well, we’ll see what the future A7S (?) will bring to the table.
Windows 7 x64. To play a A7rII SAVC-S 1080p or 4k file, do I need to DL drivers Codec? I don’t have the camera yet? Thanks
Let me summarize it for you in two+ sentences:
– Sell your A7s (or any other photo camera that shoots video you currently have)
– Sell your kidney (or whatever is left from your previous camera purchase)
– Buy the new Sony A7rII …
– ????????
– Profit!
But jokes aside – that’s the stupidest marketing post ever.
It’s not marketing. It’s just hyperbole that seems to be needed to create an “informative” gear review these days. A camera is either god’s gift to the world, or absolute sh!t.
Well said! Borderline syndrom in photography…
A7SII – 24mp, higher sensitivity, A7RII AF, 12fps, huge buffer, 4k internal-recording, 5-axis & BSIS.
Where are the real A7rII reviews? Photo comparo vs Nikon D810 & Canon 5DSR.
Hahahahhahahaha….sell my cameras….hahahahahaha….drop 3200.00 bucks and the devil owns my soul…..hahahahahaha…NO
From what I see in this posted video it got lausy post production. I have no idea where from suggestion of selling Sony A7s is coming from … A7s will hands down shadow this video no question about it …
May be A7s II will come with new improvements which may be the reason to upgrade, but this A7r II is not the one.
is it only me that love the ungraded more? just increase the contrast more, bring the black up a little and voila!
Yes, it seems not very many people can grade well – especially Slog2 footage. I think the standard profiles would serve most people far better.
Sony approves this message to buy the A7rII. Although they would prefer if you did not sell your A7S as they do not earn anything on the resale, put it in the closet instead and direct A7S customers to their local retail store
does anyone know the eyecup he is using in the shot? it has a eyecup shammy on it, so must be big enough to accommodate this. paul
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No words to explain that… This camera make videos in pro cinema mode as a 50000$ Hollywood cinema-camera.
s-gamut always make the perceived colours look thin, choose another color color space then
And so am I. The form factor does not change. (although an A8S or A9S could be good as well.) I just listed changes that can occur through next gen sensors and processors. HEVC may be a pain to deal with now as it involves converting, but it also reduces bandwidth which may allow for higher quality video. AF can always be improved, and better battery life would come from more efficient silicon, not bigger batteries.