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If you need to get a special “soap bubble” effect than this lens may be the right one for you! Meyer-Optik-Görlitz Trioplan announced that their Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 E-mount lens will ship in December for 1.400 Euro. It’s a lens made with the only purpose to create that kind of bubble effect. You can see some low resolution samples below. The lens is a new version of the already existing [shoplink 36757 ebay]m42 mount 100mm Trioplan available on eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
PRESS TEXT (Source: meyer-optik-goerlitz.com/the-bokeh-effect/):
The original Trioplan f2.8/100 lens from Meyer-Optik-Görlitz gained a fanatical following of photographers who fell in love with its dream-like soap bubble ‘bokeh’ effect.
The modern remake of the famous lens, currently in prototype, uses experience and modern technology to emulate this stunning effect more authentically than ever before. Great news. But what exactly is a ‘bokeh’ effect, and why is it so well-loved?
Bokeh, usually pronounced ‘BOH-Kay’ but sometimes ‘BOH-ka’, is a photographic effect that produces an aesthetic blur in the parts of an image which are out of focus. Derived from the Japanese word ‘boke’, meaning ‘blur’ or ‘haze’, bokeh describes the way a particular lens renders out-of-focus points of light. Whereas some lenses unintentionally produce blurring that is distracting and undesirable, others use clever alternate aperture shapes and other engineered adaptations to create ‘good bokeh’ that is pleasantly ghostly and pleasing to the eye.
The distinctive circular shape in the Trioplan bokeh derives from the number of aperture blades. The Trioplan f2.8/100 is made of fifteen steel aperture blades whereas modern lenses often have only six plastic blades. This results in a circular aperture rather than the more common hexagon. The more blades, the more circular the aperture is.
The soap-bubble bokeh effect is, strictly speaking, actually a lens aberration – but it is so pleasing to the eye that it has become a desirable effect. Of course, state of the art engineering could simply correct these aberrations which would make the transfer function of the lens look better on paper (in MTF diagrams, magazine tests, etc) but then the soap bubble bokeh effect, so admired by photographers, would be lost.
Bokeh has many creative applications. Most commonly though, photographers specializing in portrait, macro or long-zoom images use good bokeh to their advantage, by enhancing blurred areas created by the shallow depth of field and making the subject stand out starkly against a gossamer background.
Meyer-Optik-Goerlitz has been associated with innovation, precision, durability and quality in the world of photography for nearly 120 years. In 2015 the Trioplan f2.8/100 finally returns, nearly a century after its first appearance in 1916, ensuring that a new fan base will be able to experience a modern take on the classic soap bubble bokeh lens.
via Mirrorlessrumors.
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very ugly result. how subjective is everything. cool.
Thanks, I thought I was the only one who hated this kind of distracting bokeh!
Wait, HOW much !? Not even Zeiss could ask this much for a 3-element design.
check their prices 🙂
the funniest part is that my nex5 & 7 produces the same kind of bokeh with 18-55 @55 and cost..
Wow, your 55mm F5.6 creates same bokeh like a 100mm F2.8?
“same kind of bokeh”, you moron, means same kind of ugliness 🙂 moron.
Hmm I thought they would build the 135mm Trioplan, not the 100mm.
About the results: Images can look ugly but if you know what you are doing you can create very nice and interesting results. Just search flickr for “trioplan f2.8”.
But I agree, it is not a every-day-lens.
Excuse me, was that 1,400EUR?
Even if the image of this lens were so unique, I can hardly think how AMAZINGLY UNIQUE your photography can become with this one lens as to make it worth that much.
Simply put, there is a myriad of old lenses out there you can adapt to E-mount…albeit they are not “build for it” as this lens is, I can really imagine a better collection of old lenses to spend 1,400EUR on (with adapters and what not)
Then again…maybe someone has the taste for this and he/she would pay the asking price to get this.
“We’ll make a lens with horrible optical qualities and say it’s desirable and since so many photographers are total suckers, this will sell.” —so many crappy manual lens rehashers.
If you had any sanity to your name you’d just get one of the many lenses in this class available in the used market that are better. Canon FD 100/2, or one of the several 100/2.8? Sure. There are several great Nikkors. You can find plenty of options.
Yes, but FD 100/2 has much more pleasant bokeh than this, and the goal of this lens is NOT to have a good bokeh, so it’s worth 1.4k for that matter.
Great!
That Canon FDn 100/2 is hard to find. Non on ebay but several Trioplan lenses for sale.
I see five on eBay right now.
Okay, maybe you are better at searching ebay than me! I prefer using the auction site in my country. And last time a FDn100/2 was for sale was several years ago while I seen a couple of Trioplans as well as other sought after oldtimer lenses for sale since then.
No place better to start marketing than to Sony users. They’ll buy anything and defend it no matter how flawed it is.
https://sonyvnikon.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/why-sony-fanboys-fail-to-see-the-light-and-14-bit-color/
Great! Heavy optical abberations for just 1.4 k. A must have!
and I thought that price of second hand Trioplans are getting way high, we get this..the more lenses the better, but price is omg
Zeiss biotar used to make this kind of mess, but that was few thousand years ago. Then we got helios. Its around ten bucks, with same “desirable” effect which is the sole reason for its price. Meyer orestor at about 40$, on the other hand, has much better bokeh than this one.
Why was my comment deleted?
All I said was that I don’t see the value of spending 1,400EUR on this lens, unless you want this unique look so much you would see 1,400EUR value into it. I also said that I can imagine how many genuine old lenses you can buy, adapters and all, where you can get also unique looks for the 1,400EUR price tag of this lens and you can get a larger variety of lenses to play with. Granted, they wont be “made for E-mount” but…is that worth the price of this lens?
What was wrong with that?
Deletions occur for peculiar reasons on this site.
And what, soap bubble is some new fancy word for onion ring bokeh?
Onion rings sold separately
Soap bubble is not onion ring
Right. Pessimist sees onion ring. Optimist sees soap bubble. Realist sees schidt optics.
No. They are two distinct and different defects. Onion ring OOF highlights are caused by poorly polished aspheric elements.
This defect isn’t ‘schidt’ optics but schit optics.
Czrazy price. Get a jupiter 9. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/3069790271_6ecf4a82c4.jpg
This is in line with what I said but my first comment was deleted.
Jupiter9 is totally another type of lens, its sonnar design. Hypothetical person who is interested in this, may look for zeiss triotar or old trioplan for much less money. Some dirt cheap helios too. Jupiter is a serious lens though, this is circus. That said, jupiter 37a is the best of the bunch.
thanks! I was only seeing at similar (but better) bokeh!
Hilarious !
I have a Meyer Optik 50mm f1.8 in m42. Has similarly dream like bokeh but only costs me 10 bucks. I actually really like that lens because of it min focus being like 28cm on a 50mm prime. Works great with extension tubes
The bokeh bubbles are sharper than the object the lens is focusing on. Who needs that? I guess you could make a few powerpoint backgrounds or something with the pictures.
1400eur is ten years supply of mescaline, and that is more than soap bubble effect only.
Is the front lens element a soap bubble? If so does the lens come with.a supply of soap?
“it’s a feature”
Bubbeli bubbel. I’ll make a collection, with this one, next to the “new” Lomo LC-A Minitar-1 Art, the Lomo Petzval and some Diana and Holga lenses, to finally get the most out of my 36 and soon 59 MPix cameras.
Dont forget dog schidt opitiks.
I like the way you phrased this post “If you need to get a special ‘soap bubble’ effect . . .” Yeah, those samples are pretty obnoxious, but maybe somebody out there “needs” it!
Isnt it same soap effect like original Trioplan? 😀 Looks same IMHO.
If not even worse. In focus branch is a disaster. Specular highlights are vulgar display of horror. I cant even imagine a bubblehead who will pay for this. Zeiss triotar is the same lens, sharper, and 50$ used. And i wouldnt buy it
Looks like someone produced a defective lens and then engaged the marketing department to leverage the mistake.
Introducing the ‘Bokehmaster 2000″ if you like blur and bokeh, then you’ll love this lens because nothing is never in focus. Our latest lens from the team that brought you the Bubblemaster and Fringemaster lenses.
Apologies for the double post. It looked like ‘hell’ wasn’t allowed here.
Anyone know the ticker for Meyer-Optik-Görlitz ? I want to short the crap out of their stock.
Ugliest bokeh I ever seen that’s 40 years worth.
Can it wash away shiiiity composition?
No, but it flushes away good composition for sure.
“My god, its full of condoms”
Comment of the year.
LOL
Meyer optik ceased to exist in 1991. Some lunatics bought the brand last year, and behold the first results. I dont know on what do you base your opinion, but this lens is close to zeiss and leitz as lady gaga is to bethoven and wagner.
Old DDR Deuche Democratische Republic in time of their communist era did produce fine optics in Jena. I have seen images on art exebitions in Wieanna, Frankfurt and Berlin shoot by artists from that time Communist Block. It was NOT unusual to see photographer from Swisserland, Holland or what ever western country with two or three Leica cams on his neck “brushing” his eyes on these images with question in his mind how they ( artists from that time Communist Block ) can make such a amazing images …
This Mayer-Optic Comp., is a branch out from those times. Similar to Sony with Minolta engenders on their payroll.
Unfortunate is, that many people living in N. America have no idea about European history in photography nor are visiting Europe for Photography exhibitions. Good reason why could be, that these exhibitions are NOT about sunsets.
No offense my friend, you are saying exactly the same thing i said. Old Meyer was good company, even when they were bought by Pentacon in sixties i think, DDR and USSR optics were very good. I am actually from Serbia, former Yugoslavia, and although we were not a part of eastern block, we are swimming in those lenses even now. If we compare the quality of those lenses to their prices, its clear that they are very good buy.
But, from a perspective of this price, none of them is nearly as good enough. For 1400e, i expect nothing less than optical perfection, not some aberration ridden cooke`s triplet design from 19th century. Even compared to other Meyer lenses from cold war period (Meyer Orestor, Orestegor), this lens is not that good. Jupiter 37a is miles ahead optically. Tair 11a also. This Tair also has billion aperture blades, but is sharp wide open and with brilliant bokeh.
I really dont know what people from N.America think, i`ve never been there, but i know that i have seen this trioplan in local listings for less than hundred dollars, and i was not interested. Much better Russian or DDR glass can be found for even less money. Nikon 105mm AI is priced little above 100$, and it is leagues ahead of trioplan also.
And yes, speaking of Jena, there was an offer $130 for MC Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 for medium format Pentacon Six… That lens is absolutely fantastic. I skipped it only because it would be really cumbersome on Nex7, but the image quality it delivers… this trioplan is a joke in comparison.
How can you even justify your comment ? # 1 any person that thinks Leica is in the same league with Zeiss simply doesn’t know much about lens performance. Most of the Leica line is now seen as a rounding error for goofs that wear man purses, Prada and D-Squared.
Secondly – any lens that does this will infect the character of any and every composition. An artist wants a ‘drawing instrument’ that doesn’t get in their way. Not one that pisses all over their work. I can’t think of a single reason to have this lens other than to further evaluate and ridicule it.
Hmm I am shooting with Leica for 45 (!) years and I can tell you, that some Leica lenses are second to non some of them do not perform as good as Canon lenses.
…. and so with your statement you have probably spent ten thousand for Leica glass not checking what is out there for less which may produce for some same quality image for fine art gallery in Berlin or New York.
I’ll slap it on my Hasselblad Lunar and all the bitches will fall for me!
This is insane, some hedge fund gone nuts again. If I ever want this sort of effect I’ll go buy the original second-handed at a fraction of the price with better build.
that’s the perfect lens to show what photography as an art has become for some people. they deserve to pay 1500$ for that. as long as they are happy with what they call art. perfect. at least those overpayed old trioplan lenses are looking cheap again. wow.
I enjoy this lens (I have an old one) a lot, the effect comes from a triple lens design. Prices for the vintage ones in Europe were increasing, these days you’ll get them used for around 300-500 Euros (and you can adapt them very easily, as adapters for both M42 and exakta mount are available.). Calling up 1500 Euros is way over any reasonable pricing, in my point of view.
They are rebranding Mitakon Lenses on their page for twice as much. I’d hardly call that reputable.
Sweet Bubble Jesus! Now that is ALOT of bubbles!
Sony should get rid off the ugly Sony brand name from their cameras!! Sony should create beautiful design withou the need of white massive letters! Is there anyone who agree with me?
The vintage Trioplan 100 2.8 is actually a great lens. It’s not loved by some for it’s realism, but for it’s creative possibilities. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. If you like it, buy the vintage version. When stopped down a bit, the extreme soapbubble effect dissipates and lens actually gets very nice smooth bokeh and paintinglike background. It’s just what you do with it. One example from last year:
Sezai – thank you for the insight and the example. Your picture demonstrates the real value of this lens.
Trioplan is a very nice lens for certain things like nature: https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=trioplan
but.. 1400EU??.. come on!, is a very simple lens design, if it was the 1/5 of the price could be interesting lens for experimentation..
Bubble Bobble? https://youtu.be/cLVxvQ3a2n8
The bokeh in that second photo is the worst I have seen. Do you really think it is ‘pleasant’?
yes there are lenses like Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 or Pentacon 50/1.8 and some more they can produce the same bubbles. Costs about 10 to 30 bucks.
Looks like that the New Meyer-Optik-Görlitz company owned by Globell and netSE have not enough own money to start the production? The supposed rebranded and trippled price sold Russian and Chinese lenses (for example Mitakon 50/0.95 to Nocturnus 50/0.95 and others) gave not enough profit. What I know they have no own production place in Germany and it´s not clear where they modify/improve the lenses they had imported. All rumors, but not good for the trademark “Made in Germany”. The new Trioplan should be available in December 2015, not only for E-mount. We are excited to know where is the production place in Germany or who is the service company in Germany that puts parts together. 1.400,- Euros is a very very very ambitious price for this simple optical lens.In my opinion 5 times overpriced.