Kazuto Yamaki CEO from Sigma talked to Focus Numerique (translation by SigmaRumors). And there are a couple of news related to Sony stuff:
1) Sigma will not make lenses for the FE system yet
2) Sigma will keep making APS-C E-mount lenses
3) Sigma will soon update the [shoplink 29294 ebay]24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM[/shoplink] and the [shoplink 29295 ebay]70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM[/shoplink] lenses for A-mount.
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I’d like to see those E-mount APS-C lenses. Hopefully something more interesting than 19/2.8 and 30/2.8. Maybe 17-50/2.8 with OS:)
..exactly what I want:)
given sigmas current direction your looking at over 500 grams, which wont be fun on a little nex style camera :/
having tried large lenses on my mums nex5n…
Tamron and Sigma lenses complement Sony’s A-Mount line-up nicely, providing low-price alternatives to G/Zeiss and filling in some high-price gaps as 150-600 by Tamron or 35mm by Sigma
With those new high-quality 3-rd party lenses, when A99-II is released, one could actually go for all-Tamron/Sigma/Samyang lenses, while Sony is trying to milk the FE cow with its slow over-priced glass
Stop complaining about overpriced glass for Sony. In fact the prices of Sony lenses are about the same as their Canikon look alikes.
Canon 35mm f/2 – $600, Sony 35mm f/2.8 – $800, heh?
Fact is, Canikon have no look-alikes, Sony is the only company who produces full frame mirrorless lenses, and they’re squeezing max profit out of it
Then don’t buy it…
What does that have to do with anything?
They can charge any price they want. It’s up to you to decide if the product is worth it to you (is what I think Gav is saying).
I heard A-mount is getting a new 35/1.4… wait, what did you say?! It’s for e-mount?!!
Soon to be fast overpriced glass… 😉
LOL, true
It seems that Sony doesn’t want to compete with 3rd party in A-Mount, they make either very cheap glass like 75-300, or very expensive like 70-400 GII, and leave the mid-tier to Tamron/Sigma
In FE, however, they have no competition, so for the time being they can nonchalantly overprice everything… except bodies
Wasn’t the 75-300mm Sony kit lens quietly discontinued?
I wonder why they don’t make an auto focus sa mount to e mount adapter to try and get e mount users to buy their SA mount lenses with OSS.
If Sigma ever decides to get serious about their SA system, that would be very interesting… they have all kinds of lenses… so far, however, they don’t seem to do that and probably make only a handful of SA glass
I think as long as there is only mirrorless FF sony it is not profitable to do FE lenses….
Make lenses for only one system ….
But I certainly would like to see sigma FE mount
this is a good news.
Poor strategy, Sigma!
Profitable strategy.
Expense in designing and manufacturing lens needs to be covered by customers buying them.
There is much more demand for FE lenses rather than E mount lenses, Sigma should be able to sell much more full frame lenses. Especially since there still isn’t a portrait lens for the FE mount.
Whats that profitable about their current strategy? Competing in a more saturated market with the lowest priced lenses currently selling for £120 in the UK! what profit do you think they are making on these?
Are you kidding me? There is more demand for FE lenses?!
Buahahahahahahaha.
You’re so clueless it’s beyond any hope.
Did you just read the first line of my comment or you just need more time to understand what I’ve written!
There is more demand for FE in terms of focal lengths, system population. There are much more missing lenses than the crop sensor E mount.
The demand within the system doesn’t matter.
The system as a whole is unpopular.
Sigma makes a single lens for Canon, Nikon and A-Mount, that’s a huge market compared to FE.
In all of these they have to compete with a lot of manufacturers, including the actual system OWNER. As a result:
– larger market but they can own a small share!
– competition results in minimal margins!
In the FE system there are still unpopulated focal lengths – no competition! Premium margins, only supplier!!!
Sigma supporting A-mount, don’t they know it’s dead? All these third-party manufacturers are obviously not as close to Sony as the “A-mount is dead” SAR readers are.
They do this for C and N and then later for the S =)
…..They do not do lens only for A
What?
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C = Canon
N = Nikon
S = Sony
A = either Alpha or A-mount (not sure which in this context)
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Yeah but it is still “what” as the post makes no sense as a reply to mine.
To be fair, it’s a mount change (for the most part) and they only do it on lenses with a big potential market. The same applies to apsc mirrorless. FE, on the other hand, would mean developing new lenses from scratch, which can’t be cheap when you can’t spread the costs over multiple mounts…
The SAR users hoping the A-Mount dies are being either ridiculed or laughed at on every forum on the internet. They are some of the biggest morons in the Alpha community. All of them have absolutely zero credibility in the eyes of all semi-pro, and professional Alpha/Maxxum users.
It’s likely that they suffer from mental health conditions.
Oh well I gotta get back to work. I’ll be using an “Undead A99”, and my favourite dead film camera the Maxxum 7000 loaded with Ilford Delta film.
I actually use the Maxxum 7 regularly, because its one of the few SSM capable film cameras Minolta designed, and it works great with my Zeiss zoom lenses. I had an upgraded Maxxum 9, but I sold it.
Sony should launch a Alpha film camera. Many of us still use film, and some clients will actually pay more for pictures taken using film.
Sure. Right after they come out with an E mount film body that uses APS film.
Canon, and Nikon still produce film cameras moron, cause those of us who have degrees were taught how to use film first, and most of us still use the stuff.
Clients actually ask for shots to be done in film almost all of the time.
So F-off, and go away to amateur land. The pros need to speak.
Let me know when the nurse is done changing your Depends – I’d be happy to explain why it would make no sense for Sony to design, build, and market a new Alpha mount film camera.
When I spoke to the ladies at the Sigma booth on Photokina and asked them for FE mount they said that a lot of visitors were asking for it and they want to forward that feedback.
I can understand Sigma in this, although it’s not what I’d like.
The only times I do object to Sigma’s position, though, is when they announce something and then delay, delay, delay, or do nothing at all.
It’s simple: the market for FE mount is still too small for R&D commitment. And possibly, Sigma doesn’t see it as a potential for the future. Or they just don’t wan’t to make any public announcement, one way or the other.
Keyword here is ‘YET’ and decisions like this can be reversed in a trice, and this one probably will be!
They cannot say anything else for any mount. They’re in this buisness for profit – if there will be enough FE-mount users to justify new lenses – they might reconsider it. But so far there’s barely enough to justify E-mount lenses even though they actually can make these lenses for few mirrorless mounts at the same time.
As Sigma representative put it himself in one of the other interviews – mirrorless users don’t buy third party lenses, they usually just purchase a camera with kit lens and that’s all.
Sigma have probably also considered the fact that it is possible to use their lenses of other mounts on FE camera bodies anyway, with adaptors. This is one of those developing ‘watch this space’ scenarios.
To be fair very few third parties make af mirrorless lenses, so it’s not like customers have much choice there. IIRC most dslr owners only uses the kit lens (look how many entry level models are sold). I think it’s more a case of R&D costs vs predicted sales.
Lower competition = higher sales per manufacturer. But it’s still not enough to justify developing lenses like Sigma A 35 f/1.4 for E-mount. As for the second part – according to Sigma higher percentage of DSLR users buy 3rd party lenses than Mirrorless users do.
That’s a circular argument though. Mirrorless users don’t buy many Sigma lenses because they have a selection of 3 slow and uninspiring lenses (at best they’re good value for money). DSLR user buy Sigma lenses because the quality and range is good (my most used lenses are my 70/2.8 and 35/1.4).
Sigma: Does better job supporting A-mount than Sony.
Please give me a Emount APS-C F1.2 lenses…
Sigma has included oss in thier A m poo unt new releases..therefore fe sipport is redundant.
I think I go in
Two utterly incomprehensible posts. One about poo, the second replying to the one about poo, but I’m not sure the second post was meant to end yet.
No lotus ..the posts were not about you.
My 5-year-old son does better comebacks.
Go home Barry, you’re drunk.
I feel sorry for him.
And why is that Barry? Please elaborate.
Because you are so obsessed with insulting me that you would involve your own son.
This fued needs to stop..so I concede defeat ..you win now lets end this.
He’s a PoS troll.
I didn’t involve my son, I merely pointed out that you can be outwitted by a child.
As long as you continue to post drivel, there is always a chance somebody (not just me) will call you out on it.
Why do you upvote your own posts?
You either insulted him or bragged about his ability to insult others.
Your complete inability to see how wrong your actions are is extremely disturbing and unless you seek help you son is likely to turn out just like you.
As apposed to turning out like YOU. Cuz YOU’RE alright.
LOL!
LOL.
No I didn’t insult him, and no I didn’t brag about his ability to insult others. It was an analogy – a comparison to a child of your ability fire comebacks. Please understand this – IT DIDN’T REALLY HAPPEN.
Christ, can you even tie your own shoelaces?
I’ll ask again, why DO you upvote your own posts?
Stop, Lotus,
Barry is likely red in the face angry and too childish to understand why. His next step will be to start claiming that he’s got your location figured out, and that you’re part of a conspiracy to harass his sorry a$$, and that the CIA and FBI are going to throw you in prison. He’s a loon like that. So don’t push his nutzo mind too far please.
Don’t give him any ideas
This whole thread is pure gold
Do you two give stand-up performances?
They need to kiss and mark-up
Look st the example you are setting for him.
Even after I conceded defeat in order to spare your son from your behavior…you continue to track my posts across the board to post more insults..
Your behavior is disgracefully and unfortunately your family is paying the price for your behavior.
Do you have a family, Barry?
I do not believe it is appropriate to give out personal information such as what you ask for on an internet forum.
Barry, get some help.
Your pathetic and downright creepy attempts at comparing my activity on a camera forum to how I interact with my family in “real life” is what is disgraceful.
As someone who once compared his treatment on this forum to the fate of those who suffered in WWII, you have absolutely ZERO right to comment on anybody else’s behaviour here.
You constantly pollute these boards with your repetitive, outlandish and downright bizarre posts, yet wonder why you attract the ridicule. It is genuinely astounding.
I don’t know if you have family or not, but leave other people’s family out of it.
You yourself not only brought up your own son on an inernet forum but did so for the purpose of making an insult.
Then you continue to attempt to justify this compleyely justifiable actiom while continuing to generate more insults.
You need to get your own house in order and stop worrying so much about mine.
Barry, it was an analogy. Are you really THAT stupid?
I think you’re both out of your minds. CLEARLY Barry has some problems. CLEARLY he’s not rational. Yet you keep trying to have a rational conversation with they man. You tell me that’s not just as crazy.
Um…. o.0
On a recent trip I met a sloth, a porcipine and slime bug.
The sloth was so slow that even Lotus Eater could move faster.
The porcipine was so stupid that even Lotus Eater was smarter.
The slime bug was so ugly that even Lotus Eater was prettier.
( apologies to my 3 friends )
Alright Mad Barry.
Barry,
Don’t mind them. They’re just jealous of your superior wit and intelligence! We love you Barry! Don’t ever stop posting here! You are a true ambassador of the Sony A-mount!
Barry…stop upvoting your own posts. Are you really that needy for attention and confirmation that you matter that you shallowly sneek votes in to try to make your posts appear more popular? Get a life.
No sigma support for FE!
FE mount is dead…..
Hahahaha
Happy, so now all Sony has to is build new bodies, which is what they like best. Hope they continue the A-Mount ones.
Admin, are you still going to share big Song January Announcement news?
The big January Song Announcement is the following playlist:
1) Sonytime Sadness
2) It’s beginning to look a lot like E-mount
3) The Alpha mount blues (live)
4) Waiting for a Lens like you
5) High Speed Sync (techno version)
6) I heard it through the SAR line
7) Moves like Nikkor
8) I love mirror slap
9) Another mount bites the dust
10) How deep is your (flange distance)
11) Tripod (live)
12) The SLT song (instrumental)
“3) Sigma will soon update the 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM and the 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM lenses for A-mount.”
Correction. Sigma might soon update those lenses for DSLR mounts, which may or may not include A-mount. This isn’t some special favour for A-mount, nor was A-mount specifically mentioned.
There is no reason to believe that any of these lenses won’t be released on A-mount.
Because we all know that A mount is dead.
31% of Sony imaging revenue and over 2 billion is sales annually sure doesn’t sound like it’s dead. In fact most of the e-mount R&D comes from A-Mount sales dimwit.
Do the math and you’ll understand how moronic you sound.
Actually your math sucks. The A-Mount is going to generate 1.927 billion USD or 220 billion Yen this year.
Didn’t you read the annual report. You’re beginning to sound like another uneducated forum troll without a business or fine arts degree.
Yet, the reality is Sony takes what you’d expect they’d consider an important part of their customer base for granted based upon their behavior. They’re mostly milking old SKUs.
None at all?
Sigma still appears to support a-mount for now with their more popular lenses so I’d expect a bread and butter lens like the 24-70mm or 70-200mm to get support. In a way, I don’t really care because the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 I own is so darn good.
Long-term, the handwriting is on the wall for a-mount. E-mount fanboys of the world rejoice! We know you hate it so much. ;^)
Look closer at that handwriting..E mount is just after A mount in the paler ink.
Got a new rumor from upper management at Sony for us? Please share!
No new rumor..but E mount is the shortest mount..threfore the lenses will not work with converters on any other mount.
Actually, it’s not the shortest mount.
Apart from the fact there is no demand to convert e-mount lenses to longer mounts (as it would be completely pointless), how do you propose to do it without expensive electronic adapters? All those people adapting e-mount lenses to their DSLRs will sure love shooting fully stopped down without any kind of ability to focus.
You wonder why people insult you when you post such cretinous rubbish.
Oh, boo-hoo.
Sigma is also in the “know” within the camera industry, we unfortunately are not, unless your one of the few that have signed NDAs. So we have to rely on information from apparently unreliable sources, who use the NDA copout when you call them on their BS (still pissed over A88).
However the only thing that is causing the delay is the recent data from A-Mount sales. Apparently the NEX/E-Mount/FE-Mount is creating a HALO effect for the A-Mount.
A-Mount sales are rising globally. This was completely unexpected, and Sony was completely dumbfounded when the sales figures rolled in for the last two years.
The previous A-Mount strategy was tossed in the toilet, and a new one is being forwarded.
Apparently many NEX/E-Mount/FE-Mount users are buying Sony’s SLR after playing with their squeakier toys.
Yeah, you’re always very optimistic about the a-mount. Did any of your Photokina happy talk pan out? No offense but I can’t keep clinging to hopes which haven’t really developed except the disappointing (from my perspective) a77II.
I’m keeping my a-mount stuff but I tossed in the towel on Sony for now. I’m sure we haven’t seen the last new a-mount product but I don’t have enough faith to put any more money into the system until I get a serious warm and fuzzy.
I’ve noticed a few other regulars bail as well. Anecdotal but not a good trend.
Earl the A77II is apparently mopping up the 7D MK2, and most of the Canon users agree that the over priced camera didn’t deliver to goods. Only the hardcore aren’t complaining.
However the 7D MKII is good at one thing, which is driving A77II sales.
So, if Sony delivers a disappointing A99II with incremental changes which make the overall platform better like the A77II, I’ll be happy.
Anything extra is gravy.
I’ll agree with you the Canon 7DM2 might not be all that hot based upon the few samples I’ve seen. I haven’t compared it to the a77II at various ISOs. However, judging from Amazon pre-order sales it’s moved to the top of the charts. That said, I think the a77II has done admirably for an SLT Sony doesn’t promote since it’s remained in the top 100 since introduction.
You don’t have to sell me on the merits and value proposition of Sony SLTs. You need to convince Sony management who appear content to let it flounder.
If Sony hadn’t ceded the 36mp sensor market to Nikon I’d own a new a99II (or even a99 if they’d used that sensor for it) instead of a used Nikon D800.
Maybe this 46mp rumour Admin isn’t a load of crap, but I’m beginning to have my doubts.
I managed to sell off my A99 in anticipation of the newer model as a friend in the industry had suggested. I’m not really going to miss it, because I still use the A850, and Maxxum 7 for most jobs (90%).
What I’ve noticed is a rebound in 35 mm film locally (Halifax), and some clients are now asking for their jobs be carried out using film.
I’m actually trying to track down a Maxxum 9 with the SSM upgrade locally to keep up with demand.
So now I’m waiting, and if the next camera isn’t what I’m looking for I’ll just pick up another A850, and call it a day.
As much as I’d like to, I really don’t believe anything you say now.
Not that I really believed anything you said before Photokina.
This is how the boardroom discussions go with every 3rd party manufacturer in the world:
“HUZZAH! We just developed a KILLER [WIDGET] for Canon and Nikon! Let us celebrate. Oh, wait. Before we pop the champagne, do you think we have to make it for A-mount? Are there enough components laying around, unused from the last widget that we released for A-mount? If we have enough parts in stock, do it, but only make the minimum. OKAAAAAY! Champagne time! CANIKON 4EVAAA!”
Sony’s fault. They’ve been letting rumors fly for years a-mount is nearing end of life and seem quite pleased with that perception. Judging by SAR buzz people tossing in the towel on a-mount is accelerating and certainly new customers will be scared off if they bother to do any research.
So it’s not surprise Sigma, for example, blew off an a-mount version of their 150-600mm Sport lens.
Remember sigma has not even made the 120-300 HSM for the A-mount. That’s not even taking in account the delay of 6 months to a year wait fot the A-mount.
What’s sad is Sony is weak in sports/wildlife lenses so Sigma blowing off the a-mount with their Sports lens line really hurts.
Sigma never made the 300-800 or the 50-500 f2.8 for Sony
You are absolutely correct. You would think with their SLT technology that this would give them a possible advantage but they did not take advantage of this technology. I went out and got a 1dx for sports/action. The 99 cannot compete at this level. I was a bit disappointed.
You are right. Given that Sigma makes the best Sony lens in a number of focal lengths – it stings when they decide not to make one.
I was in my local camera store in upstate Washington this weekend, and the sales rep was speaking to a newbee about DSLR’s. She asked about Sony translucent mirror technology – yes, she knew it by name! I turned and before I could say hello to her, the sales rep immediately shot it down; “No, no! Trust me, you don’t want that! Sony is abandoning that camera line. You’d buy a camera system with no future!” She walked out with a Canon. 🙁
I’ll bet the shop owners were delighted with their employee’s efforts to keep apparently obsolete stock in stock.
People are still buying cameras from brick and mortar stores?
It wouldn’t even surprise me if your regional Sony sales manager trained the store staff to say that. Sony is trying to heard the sheep to e-mounts. They just assume everyone wants mirrorless.
Sigma should update their 24-70 & 70-200.
The newer Tamron lens has better optic.
They will update their full-frame zooms: http://photorumors.com/2014/09/21/sigmas-future-plans-new-24-70mm-and-70-200mm-f2-8-lenses-and-more/ There is also an uwa zoom in the making and a 24 f1.4 ART prime.
http://photobyandrei.wordpress.com/
I rented the Tamron 70-200 and it is no biggie. I had to return it and get the Sony instead.
I really liked that Sigma interview. Sony’s incompetent marketing department could learn a lot from it.
Without giving away any secrets to competitors he was frank in describing where Sigma products are headed by category and why Sigma is doing what it’s doing. You might not like his answer, for example, no FE lenses but at least you know.
Sigma survives in spite of its incompetent marketing and strategic planing departments, just imagine what it could do with real leadership at the helm. No one needs FE lenses from Sigma now, that ship has sailed. The CEO is only stating the obvious.
I get FE owners getting their panties in a wad Sigma isn’t supporting them but as he said Sigma is a small company and is going after volume. They wouldn’t support a-mounts if it couldn’t tag along with lenses designed for Canikon DSLRs.
To say the FE ship has sailed sounds like sour grapes to me. If the FE creates a huge install base or other manufacturers start churning out popular FF mirrorless the FE can piggyback on I’m sure Sigma will eventually support it.
Sigma, my only hope for APS-C E-mount lenses since Sony seems to have no interest in it anymore (hopefully that will change again once their infatuation for the FE system fades away).
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Love the 19, 30 and 60mm lenses. Would like to see a tele prime 85mm maybe even 90mm, not too picky on the speed, f/2.8 would be fine for me. Not much else on my wishlist.
I cannot understand why they wouldn’t make their glass for E-mount. It’s as if they ignore the face that they have a full-frame camera body when they have THREE already. Even if they only made their 18-35 so that I could use it on my A6000, I’d be so happy. I would immediately buy their 120-300mm f/2.8 if they made it in a native E-mount too. Can you imagine a 180-450mm f/2.8 with OSS???????? I own the Sigma 19 and 30mm for NEX and they are fantastic lenses… What a bummer!
That is quite easy. Take the 50mm Art lens for example. It is the same lens for Canon, Nikon and Sony designwise, except the mount and the software. They optical design this lens once and can make money with the different mounts.
E-mount is a new design, only usable for e-mount and not Canikon and developement and producing it would cost a lot of money. The risk to get the money back with selling them is much higher than for the 50mm Art for example.
Give back your name, now.
You have shamed me.
This shouldn’t be a huge surprise. They haven’t designed *any* lenses for APS-C E mount – they’ve simply adapted the lenses they already had for their own APS-C compacts.
If they ever come out with a FF compact camera, I expect they’ll also adapt that lens to E mount and MFT.
their 60/2.8 DN lens is not the same as on the DP series, where they use 50/2.8 instead
True but they can market it to all the crop-frame mirror less systems (except Samsung)
I believe none of this marketing spin. Nobody (not even Sony) anticipated the runaway success of the full frame NEX. Only Zeiss anticipated it and that’s why Zeiss is ahead of the pack now.
Sony is scrambling to release lenses for FE. Olympus and Fuji are scrambling to release the full frame OM-D and the full frame X-Pro respectively.
And I have no doubt that Sigma is going to try to grab the compact yet affordable f/2.8 prime market on FE. Of course they are not going to announce any of this because they want you to buy their A-mount or EF-mount lenses and use them with adapter.
Sigma seems rudderless with their incoherent, overly conservative and sometimes contradictory marketing strategy. Thankfully they make great lenses and that’s the only thing keeping them afloat. They are missing or have already missed a golden opportunity with the full frame Sony A7 cameras. There was a long period where Sony was unable to supply many of the lenses people wanted and needed, Sigma could have taken advantage of that. Unfortunately that window of opportunity has slammed shut and now there is no point in Sigma designing and manufacturing FE lenses since Sony, Zeiss and Samyang have it covered.
Sigma needs to update their 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM and the 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM lenses which have fallen behind optically with the competition. As in the missed opportunity with FE lenses, they are always reactive instead of being proactive. And these statements by CEO Kazuto Yamaki only reinforce this trend. Sigma is in need of a more dynamic leader at the helm, Kazuto Yamaki is not the man for this job.
Ohhhh, ru say re are rudderress? Sigra make good lens for all brand. Re no rudderress. I am man ror job. I rike down the comperirsion!
Thank you Kazuto Yamaki.
In his most recent interview the real Kazuto Yamaki described the difficulty of basically making very differrent lens with many different parts for each lens mount..plus the complex electronic interface that is differrent for each.See Sigma Rumors..
He continued to explain that each system is proprietary and they must pay a fee for every lens made.
As a relatively small company they do not consider thier responsibility to provide lenses for everyone but rather to concentrate primarily on Canikon where they can get a better return for thier investment.
Sony has made the task of a 3rd party manufacturer, wanting to make lenses for Sony extremely difficult and not very profitable.
Sony’s exclusionary and exclusivity tactics only work when the competition cannot provide a comparable product..I believe that situation will change rather soon.
Yamahamamoto Samurai, Sony CEO: Ohhh, we ro want Sigra to rake rens share array from Sony. Sony make good rens, expensive rens for FE camera.
Kuku Yamaha-Motobek, Sigma CEO: Ohhh, ro worry. Sigma ro want to rake lens for FE camera eirher. Sigma ro trust Sony. Sony arrandon E rount like Sony arrandon A rount?
Yamahamamoto Samurai: We contrinrue to market and support A rount!
Kuku Yamaha-Motobek: Ahhhh, but you ro “develop” A rount anyror!
Yamahamamoto Samurai: Ohhh, ru got re! Yes, we ro more make anyring for A rount! Ha ha ha.
You misspelled – like – almost every word.
Well, they could make e-mount lenses with a FF image circle and just call it e-mount instead of FE. Whatever, sigma is awesome. Zeiss and sony wouldn’t sell many primes if sigma art primes come to FE.
Kazuto Yamaki no likey.
A mounts future keeps getting brighter and brighter.
LOLZ
It’s funny actually how the rest of the Alpha (A-Mount) community is lambasting SAR because of its inability to rid itself of the same trolls screaming death to the A-Mount, while the rest of us are using our Maxxum/Alphas daily. It’s a shame we can’t filter out their incessant noise.
It’s the same group mentally unstable rejects that were touting the death of the Maxxum in the 90s, fortunately Sony made fools of them all.
I’m so convinced that the Alpha is going to die a horrible death that I just ordered the 16-35mm f/2.8 for my A850 (I’m still using the 17-35mm), and will likely bought bulk Ilford Delta 3200 or T-Max 400 B&W film for my Maxxum 7 & 9.
In the end all they’re managing to do is further reduce their credibility in the eyes of the larger alpha community.
How’s your new Maxxum 7000?
skip…
Awesome and thanks for asking! I got my first roll of Kodak 200 back this week. The guy said he was impressed thumbing through my images. So much fun. Used the 135mm 1.8, 24mm 2.8 and the minolta 100 2.8 macro. I forgot just how sharp that macro is. Would I shoot film everyday? No…but I think everyone (especially if you are an a mount shooter) should give it a try.
The problem is it’s expensive to get a good scan. It’s not a big deal, but you have to be deliberate if you want good development and cut the cost down. I do some medium format with a rolleiflex I restored as well. For film, I actually prefer not viewing it on a screen. I find looking at the color positive slides on a light table to be just fantastic. I now have a roll of B&W Fuji in the 7000. That’s why I’m not in a hurry to dump A mount but I won’t be buying anything else from here on out. I have no issues with the gear, just Sony screwing up it’s future.
Maxxum 7000 is working out great! Just got my first slides back. The 135mm 1.8 works wonders on film as well. I think anyone who owns Alpha glass should shoot some film, these Minolta cameras are quite good.
I agree 100%. I’ve only started to put my Maxxum 7 back into regular use. The Zeiss lenses are spectacular on the older Maxxums.
I’m not sure what the point is really? I use a Leica iiif with some regularity. I can assure you that the Leica thread mount is soundly dead.
Just because there are people blissfully and rightfully using A-mount stuff doesn’t mean it’s a thriving ecosystem with a bright future.
Cause you one of the people he’s talking about moron.
31% of their revenue and growing says your wrong. Of course you’re not an A-Mount user and you opinion doesn’t really matter. Zero Credibility is correct in his assessment.
You do realize it’s also a group of ~3 people who actually keep defending A mount and trash e-mount at any chance? By your logic, you would be most likely banned/filtered out.
LOL it’s always amusing to see E-Mount users thinking they are more numerous than A-Mount users
A-Mount userbase has been building from the 80s
Read the A-Mount frustration thread and see how many people on this forum really use A-Mount
Sony please bring 28mm f/1.8 for 399 USD or cheaper for APS-C E mount………
And a A7000 with IBIS
I think the fat lady sung on e-mount and IBIS.
I think with this new generation of sensor everyone will have high quality mirorless cameras.
Do you think Sony or Nikon cameras will be only partly compatable with thier own lenses to force thier own loyal users to buy the new native Canikon Mirrorless mount lenses like Sony is doing to A mount users.
That would be fantastic for Sony…then all the pissed off Canikon users will buy sony stuff.
I wonder if Canon or Nikon management will be as foolish and shortsighted as Sony management?
You seem to have missed it… it’s already happening
Google Canon STM
STM is a stepper motor…I do not understand what that has to do with the comment I made?
Your wish is (almost) answered! Sony just announced an f/2.0 28mm. Close enough in speed and for a rumored $499. So pretty close in price.
Where? link?
FE vs E-mount, why does that matter?! They are the same except that FE lenses will also cover full-frame. I don’t believe it has OSS (I’m unaware of anyone actually shooting with the lens who could verify) but you didn’t specify that nor do any of the Sigma E-mount lenses have OSS.
If you’d like to keep complaining by all means don’t let me spoil your fun.
I’m not complaining…. Just asked if it had OSS or not. And I don’t use any Sigma e-mount lenses. I have Sony 35mm f/1.8 OSS.
But it’s great if the FE 28mm will work without any limitations or loss of quality on APS-C.
1) FE lenses are larger than necessary
2) FE lenses are more expensive than necessary
Lol
It’s good business-sense for a 3rd party; Sigma will wait until there is another full-frame mirrorless cameramaker (or two) in the game.
Makes sense.
Sigma usually designs one lens for all manufactures. FE (35mm format mirrorless) is Sony specific. Just imagine, Nikon decides to release a similar camera with a different (incompatible) flange focal distance.
No. Sigma has got to wait until Nikon and/or Canon are there as well. (They will, since DSLR will go extinct in the end.)
I wonder if sigma will fix their HSM so it works properly with the a99 and a77ii AF Range feature? I wonder if they can get their HSM to work with AF-C and 12 fps on my a77ii.
Then I might be interested in an updated 70-200 from them. Until then, I’m not buying any more sigma lenses.
The E 30mm is very nice though 🙂
AF range doesn’t work with Sigma lenses??
It worked just fine with mine. I had several, including the 70-200 and I had no problems – gave them quite a workout.
Sony can develop FE mount lenses and Sigma can develop A mount lenses.
That’ll work out.
Who’s going to develop the A-mount bodies? 😉
Exaaaaaactly.
We should ask Minolta, they were better at it anyways. I’d be the first inline to buy a Full Frame Minolta 9D.
It would be a short line.
Then quiet easy the dont get My Money:)) i changed for good to sony Emount as a pro photographer one Year ago and dont Look back. A7, A7r , A6000
I would love to see Sigma make a few FE-lenses, I was sad to read that they have no such plans. I would say that Sigma is very interesting these days, a few years ago I couldn’t care less what Sigma did since most of their lenses felt quite mundane and they had problems with compatibility. But lately, I think they have really upped the ante quality- and innovation-wise. Many of their new Art-lenses seem really excellent and good bang for the buck. I guess the problems with volumes is still an achilles-heel of the FE-system, Sony needs to sell more cameras to attract more third-party manufacturers. Of course, it would be very beneficial if Sony could get one or more manufacturers to adopt the E-mount and start producing cameras, but I can’t really see that happening any time soon. It really helps to have several camera manufacturers using the mount, as with m4/3. I was hoping a bit for Pentax, but since Ricoh bought them I am more in doubt.