Chris and Jordan form TheCameraStoreTV tested the new RX100M3 and they have little to complain about that new masterpiece from Sony. This is again a great new RX camera from Sony!
The camera will ship on June 20 according to Amazon US (Click here).
A7s and RX100M3 Preorders:
Sony A7s preorder in USA/CA at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), Sony (Click here), Sony Canada.
RX100M3 preorders in USA at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), Sony (Click here).
RX100M3 preorders in Eu at Sony DE, UK, ES, FR, IT, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, NO, FI, PT.
RX100M3 in Asia at Amazon Japan and Sony Australia.
Sony A7s EU pages (no preorder yet): Sony DE, UK, ES, FR, IT, NL, SE, FI, PL.
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1st blood! ^^
for $200 each they can sell a lot… i mean A LOT ! 🙂
They will sell even more for 20 cents a piece. Market share FTW!!
terrific.
They’ll lose money on every sale but make it up in volume! ;^)
If the codec is very good, this camera will definitively be my next RX.
Amazing value for what you get.
Almost perfect. If only it was 21-300 with a FF sensor and just slightly smaller…
HA!
With a bread machine built in. Imagine fresh bread when you’re out shooting on a chilly day! 🙂 Are you listening Sony?
A built-in bread maker is no good if it doesn’t include a slicer!
Agree. Doh! How could I forget! 😉
here is the info I got from the Focus camera site, after “chatting” with someone, it is pre order and not in stock but if you order you get “on top of the list” so when they said that it is “in stock shipping today” that was incorrect which they admitted in the “chat”
Nice review, but one thing they could have also mentioned is the camera got a built-in ND filter as well.
They did. 5:49.
Yep, you’re right, I’ve missed that somehow.
They does mention that.
I was just looking for the RX100M3 on Sony.com, got distracted looking at A-mount lenses and noticed this tidbit (likely an error). The 70-200 2.8 II lens is linked to the old lens, which says ‘discontinued’. So if you search for the new lens, you end up at this:
Sony is notorious for making mistakes on their websites. And it doesn’t help for you to contact them and let them know – they never listen. For almost 4 months, the A900 was listed as an APS-C camera. I emailed them 3 times, got thank you messages back, and they never changed it until the camera was almost discontinued.
Big plus one.
Yes, they do listen. If you put it on their facebook page, where ALL people can see it, they hurry to make the corrections before everyone notice it. At least they did it when I told them about horror mistakes everywhere in their information/marketing page of the alpha lineup
Good idea! 🙂 I’ll try that.
It’s sad we have to publicly shame them into keeping their site up to date.
If you go to Sony.com right now and scroll down, it says the following.
“The full frame 24.3 a77 allows you to take gorgeous photos.”
Seriously? On their main page they make that typo?
Yep. :0
Pathetic.
They take their still camera business very seriously. 😉
OK, enough with the high tech features, how about the lens? Does Mk 3 deliver bettter image quality than the lens on Mk 1 and Mk 2? I have a Mk 2 and I suspect the lens is what is holding it back from true DSLR quality, not the sensor.
I don’t think it’s the lens that’s holding it back. For a very compact camera, there is only so much optical quality you can squeeze out from that small lens. If you are looking for higher IQ, the sensor and lens needs to get bigger. There is no win-win. Look at the Otus 55…IQ comes at a price and it’s usually size/weight which the RX is not designed to be….
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Well yes I notice these Zeiss lenses for Alpha full frame are large. Then again, the best lens I ever owned was a Zeiss Sonnar 45mm/2.0 for Contax G2, and it was tiny. Now size might be one factor, another is cost. Quality lenses tend to cost more. I was hoping that Sony has made such profit from the success of the RX100 series that they are willing to spend more on the lens on the Mk3. So far I only heard the new lens is wider and with better aperture, all of which is great, but I am still waiting to hear if the image quality as such has improved over the Mk2.
The Contax was not a Sonnar, but a Planar design. The rear elements in those lenses were very close to the film plane and, film being film, it did not create many of the issues you see today with sensors.
That being said, the 45mm Planar was also an F2, which helps it keep it compact and the design is also easy (Planar) Finally, the Contax G focusing mechanism was dependent on a screw in the camera to move the front elements back and forth to achieve focus. This eases up the job of creating a small motor to be inside the lens, so…it can be smaller.
The speed of today’s SSM, or USM, or whatever M AF lenses today is that it relies on a small lens element inside the lens that is moved by the motor. Since you need to have a small lens in your optical formula (so the motor can move it) you need to change the formula for the rest of the lens to accommodate this need. You also need to build a motor, which increases the size of the lens yet again.
Hope this helps.
It’s also a prime.
Yes that helps, thank you.
wish they showed the flip up lcd screen for selfies.. yeah i know a small thing, but with the nex-5T, when shooting a selfie in vertical/portrait orientation, the auto review comes back upside down. It’s really stupid. I understand why it does that, because the live view is showing a mirrored image, but having to flip the camera around just to review the picture is really dumb. wish they fixed that in this camera.
Joe, you need to find a pretty girl to take pictures of. Way more fun than selfies. Just make sure she has agreed to have her picture taken. Otherwise you’ll be back to taking selfies in a small, dimly lit room with bars on one end.
Haha, point taken, but the selfies are of me and my girlfriend who doesn’t have the patience to review and check and retake and so on. She’d sooner whip out the iphone which is way more convenient but 1.3 megapixels is a sham.
The guy in the video says: “It’s like a steady cam almost”. He’s obviously never seen steadycam footage because the example clip that he showed was total rubbish. It’s bouncing up and down all over the damn place.
Yep. And the Olympus are way better (at least compared to the clip they showed) …
Looks like the best Compact camera for the price on the market and my Mki certainly does well – I probably upgrade this if they do 4K video in a few years time.
Why no A77mii review it’s only been a month since it’s release?
It’s NOT been released most places. It was announced a month ago, and is JUST now starting to appear in the hands of consumers.
BTW, there’s been plenty of previews. One of the best is here: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-a77-ii/sony-a77-iiA.HTM
I didn’t ask for a preview I asked for review like this one given with video! It doesn’t make any since the Rx100miii was just announced a couple of days ago and no customers have them but TheCameraStoreTV guys has done a field test already! They have not touched the A77mii! What gives!
There are some, but many are not in English:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1fNJN42jK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwBZaLwyEP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKBnn5sHC3U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPx_ApWCpzc
All you have to do is look. They’re easily found on Youtube.
I think the biggest reason is the camera is self explanatory. Take A77 and improve every element, minus GPS, and you’ve got the A77II. What is there to review?
Thanks Kevin, appreciate the FotoTV video – some good info in there. Too bad it’s not cc for our English speakers.
I agree, BTW. What is there to review? We all know what an A77 is, we all read what was upgraded in the A77II, so it’s self-evident.
Your commit could also apply to the Rx100, Rx100mii , Rx100miii ! But there are real differences between A77 series and RX100 series that is why I want the same effort that was put into a review for the RX100 and E-mount cameras for the A77mii with a english speaking review just like Kevin’s. Kevin doesn’t speak german in his reviews so why do I need to learn another language to get a nice A77mii review it’s stupid! That’s why I want Kevin to do a A77mii review because his are the best and honest. Is Sony just interested in selling the A77mii in germany?
Another http://www.yannickciancanelli.com/sony-a77-ii-quick-review-the-af-is-indeed-performing-very-well/#.U4epiig3lWI
Likely because the RX100 is one of Sony’s best selling cameras and the A77 is not. There’s far more interest in the RX and Sony needs all the sales it can get.
So by not promoting the A77mii wouldn’t that lead to lost sales? How are they going to recoup there investment then if they don’t let potential customers know about this camera?
The last 10 seconds of this review is best!!!
smaller please- pocket lint sized.
No audio input makes this a no-go for me. I will wait and see what they do with the next RX10 (4k please!)
Anything with a multi-shoe should have an audio-in port.
Yes, and this camera does not have one.
Sorry, that’s what I was trying to say, but I failed! Yes, true.
Can’t you just use external audio recording device? Of course it is not as convenient, but for such sweet video capabilities in such a small package, syncing audio afterwards is a small price to pay f the internal mic is not good enough for your purpose.
You get audio slip if recording longer than a few short minutes. eg. wedding rolls.
Sometimes I use a zoom H1 or H4n to record audio and sync in post but the point of having a compact camera IMO is traveling light. Even my iPhone 5s has a mic jack. Sony could have included one in this camera and they should have.
One other person is typing…
My guess was Sony now wants you to get the new XLR kit for the A6000 they announced with the A7S the XLR-K1M for another $800, http://store.sony.com/xlr-adapter-and-microphone-kit-zid27-XLRK1M/cat-27-catid-All-Camcorders-NEX-Accessories as it also was missing a mic in but since the RX100III doesn’t have a hotshoe it seems maybe I was wrong.
I often use my SM57 mic and a simple adaptor cable to plug it right into the mic input on my NEX-7 and my A7r. It works great and all I need it the mic and the cable. A fast, easy, compact solution that works every time. Sony, just start putting a mic in jack on all your cameras. Problem solved!
Yes it is NOT working tested yesterday, and will never Work it is a SONY Marketing Trick to Protect the Line
In terms of stabilized video, I have the Canon S120 and the mkII and the Canon video is amazingly steady. Sure it’s not as good quality and probably couldn’t be used for serious stuff, but the “dynamic” IS is pretty impressive. I wish the Sony could be as good.
I dont have the RX100M3 obviously, but I also have a Canon S120 (for a grab and go camera) and the RX10, and the RX10 video is much more stabilized than the S120. So maybe the 100MKIII will be better.
Really, I didn’t know that, that’s impressive. Is it stabilized at telephoto distances you mean? How about when walking around? The Canon’s really good on the go, walking down the street, with almost no quibbles or jerky bounces. But moderately fast panning isn’t smooth at all so that’s a drawback. And video quality in lower light pales in comparison to the RX cameras. Hope the same that the RX MkIII gets better stabilization not just on paper (5 axis)
Regarding pocket wizards and light triggers, is there some other way to attach them? Even if that means dangling something from the side…
u can use hotshot adapter ADP-MAA/ADP AMA to that, but when you use PW on sony u cannot have TTL but for manual it’s still works
Nice short review.
I will answer my own question from yesterday, about if lens and image quality is improved in the Mk3 compared with the Mk2. Yes it is, says the tester at Cyberphoto.
The Bioz X processor,gives less noise and sharper pictures, and higher usable ISO. Both 6400 and 12800 look good in their samples, to my eyes. The lens is also better, with improved sharpness towards the edges, the site says.
If other tests are similar I have to change my nick to MustUpgrade.
The article is in Swedish, but you all understand Swedish right? If not I have already mentioned the main points about image quality here. Test photos are under “Testbilder”.
http://www.cyberphoto.se/info.php?article=rx100mk3
mmmm…
you had an 1.8 lense and you shot at 2.8 to get dslr defocus background?
im lost here
also, can i shot video at 1.8? or got down to 3.5 like old sony shoters?
1.8 at the wide end. 2.8 at the telephoto end.