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For weeks Rob Skeoch from ThePictureDesk (Click here) is heavily testing the [shoplink 8454]Sony NEX-7[/shoplink]. I have some doubt that Rob will ever return the camera to Sony 🙂
He posted a couple of interesting articles about the NEX-7 and Zeiss ZM combination:
1) Sony NEX7 with Zeiss M-mount 18mm ZM (ThePictureDesk). Lens specs and price on [shoplink 9803 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
2) Sony NEX7 with Zeiss M-mount 21mm ZM (ThePictureDesk). Lens specs and price on [shoplink 9804 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
3) Sony NEX7 with Zeiss M-mount 25mm ZM (ThePictureDesk). Lens specs and price on [shoplink 9805 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
4) Sony NEX7 with Zeiss M-mount 28mm ZM (ThePictureDesk). Lens specs and price on [shoplink 9806 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
5) Sony NEX7 with Zeiss M-mount 35mm ZM (ThePictureDesk). Lens specs and price on [shoplink 9808 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
6) Sony NEX7 with Zeiss M-mount 50mm ZM Sonnar (ThePictureDesk). Lens specs and price on [shoplink 9809 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
7) Sony NEX7 with Zeiss M-mount 85mm ZM (ThePictureDesk). Lens specs and price on [shoplink 9810 ebay]eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
The Zeiss ZM is an amazing fulflrame film system. Sony should take inspiration from the [shoplink 9812 ebay]ZM camera and ZM lenses[/shoplink] for their new fullframe NEX system!
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Where are the new CZ Alpha lens?!?
Come on CZ 50mm F1.2!
No thanks. I don’t want $2000 lenses that neither I nor 99.99% of alpha users will buy/afford. Sony already has two 50mm prime lenses.
Give us more reasonable mid-priced lenses. 50-150mm F2.8, 70-400mm F4, etc.
Sony has one full-frame 50mm lens, and its not that great. I’d enjoy a more recently-made 50mm premium-apreture-monster that I can walk around with at night.
Haha – a 70-400mm F4 is goingt to cost a lot more than $2000!
Look at Nikon and Canon’s 200-400mm F4’s – massive exotics.
Well while I wait for a maybe non appearance of my NEX-7 (preordered with Jessops UK on 19th Sept), I’ve begun shooting with a NEX-5n and Zeiss 35mm f2 Biogon making 24″ x 35″ pigment prints.
I have to say that in 35 years of professional photography which included working with all the usual pro cameras Linhof, Leica, Hasselblad, Rollie, Nikon etc, there is a quality to these images (shooting Raw, RGB space, ACR with modest sharpening) that none of my experience prepared me for.
This is an amazing combination, and it’s the ‘total’ image quality that is amazing which involves for me sharpness, colour, tone, grain (if any) etc. But even the resolution itself is quite stunning, and far better than any of the very helpful comparison tests would have led me to believe (but which did indeed persuade me to try it).
I’ll be even happier if my NEX-7 does ever arrive but, I’m imagining what a well designed full frame NEX that took Zeiss M mount or other fine lenses would be like!
I dream of the day when I get up, have a glass of milk, open the RSS feeds, and see: (SR5) Sony website leaks images of the new e-mount 35mm f/2 pancake
lol!
I dream of the day when I get up, have a glass of milk, open the RSS feeds, and see: (SR5) Sony website leaks images of the new A-mount Zeiss lenses for full frame cameras.
Wow, the color shift between shooting at f/4 and f/8 is enormous! I wonder if that’s due to them being M-mount glass on an adapter or if the NEX-7 has problems with any non-Sony lens. In any case, I will definitely NOT be buying any Zeiss M lenses for my NEX-7.
It happens with lenses that have back elements very close to the sensor, so not just rangefinder lenses (I have a custom lens that exhibits such colour shift) and not just extreme wideangles (a Voigtlander 35mm f2.5 non-pancake lens had colour shift too).
Looks like the Nex 7 finally didn’t get the microprisms that the Nex 5N got (this problem is almost non-existent now on the 5N…).
i`m very disappointed that the NEX7 seems to not have the microlenses that fixed the color shifting so nicely on the NEX5n..especially as i allready have some manual lenses i planned to use on my preordered Nex7! i hope this is just a preproduction issue, even though i guess its not
No – it IS just rangefinder lenses – specifically reverse telephotos. (generally wide angle). Slr lenses are moved away from the sensor by the adaptors.
These slr lenses can be excellent by the way. They can be less elegant ( or should I say – less of a fetish item) but, carefully chosen, they can be as sharp as these very very pricey little gems. ( I use a zuiko OM 24mm that is razor sharp. It’s 1.25 inches long and uses a 49mm filter – ie tiny.)
are these lens all zeiss ZM have a problem with color shift on nex 7?
Here’s Steve Huff’s testing with Leica glass:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/10/28/sony-nex-7-with-wide-angle-leica-lenses-a-quick-test-and-gxr-comparison/
Since the ZM 25 is the lens I keep on my 5N the most I doubt I will ever get the NEX-7.
yes, but steve huff don’t test it with zeiss lens.. i hope these lens don’t have that problem on nex 7 😀
It’s the lack of microlens adjustment with the smaller glass. Leica, Zeiss Biogon, Voigtlander….all the same category.
“Sony should take inspiration from the ZM camera and ZM lenses for their new fullframe NEX system!”. Hey Andrea, what is that? A rumor within the rumor? What will be of all current DT NEX lenses?
On my iMac large screen, I opened a window with the original size of the picture made by the Zeiss 50mm/f:1,5, and another window with the Sony 50mm/f:1,8. (If you go on Flickr, you will see that Rob tested the f:3,5/30mm macro, the f:1,8/50mm, the tow Sony zooms and the 70-300G Sony). Compare wide open, and at f:8. Begin to check the corners, then the center. You know what, I won’t buy the Zeiss one. I used to be a Zeiss users for many years, but that’s my decision.
Do the same comparison with other lens combinations, like the ZM 25mm and the Sony Zeiss 24mm, etc… You will see that you will get a great system with Sony lenses without to go to bankcrupcy buying Zeiss lenses, neither Leica’s ones.
I’m really impatient to know what kind of other lens Sony will make for the Nex-7. Whatever the fame of Zeiss or Leica lenses, nothing get better than a custom-made lens for the Nex-7.
I can see that the tests are in-camera jpeg files. I also played with a nex-7 with a card inside but I don’t have any raw converter for it.
I liked the camera and I will buy one. I think the viewfinder is great but it has blocked shadows; I like the very short blackout when shooting. the menu and controls are not made for slr shooters and I will have to adapt. the hdr function (that is a must for me) is still only +/-0.7EV in raw. the auto HDR allows for +/-3EV but it takes time to process in camera (5-10seconds)and I need it to be faster. this is my major concern about the camera.
I tried the video mode and it looks good. the ability to control the exposure in PSAM modes make it brilliant! the image is corrected for barrel distortions as far as I can see (and maybe for others). the lens is silent and is very well stabilized. the ability to shoot video with an eye in the viewfinder makes it very suitable for handheld work.
I could not compare with another camera for aliasing but I did not find it intrusive. I have the feeling it is better corrected than the 7D.
does anybody know how to convert a raw file from nex-7 now?
F me! China blocked blogspot! And this is one review I really wanna read! I own four Zeiss ZM lenses which I use on my Leica, and is soon getting my fifth, really wanna know the performance!
Is Flickr blocked too ? I know that most of the time, China block all the blogspot.
Here is the link in Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/sportsphotorob/6231947191/in/photostream/
Thanks! Flickr works.
That sucks. Have you tried using a proxy?
Capture One 6.3 handles the Sony NEX-7 RAW files nicely and you can get a free 30 day trial.
Also, 5 to 10 seconds to process the in camera HDRs – that sounds longer than it really is – plus I seldom feel the need to compose, focus and create a new HDR masterpiece every five seconds 🙂
“The Zeiss ZM is an amazing fulflrame film system. Sony should take inspiration from the ZM camera and ZM lenses for their new fullframe NEX system!”
Admin are you playing with my emotions :). Bring on the FF NEX!!!
These ZM lenses are so expensive I find it more appealing to just get the new native Sony a-mount adapter and use Sony-Zeiss lenses instead. Cheaper and more functionality.
If you can live with the bulk by all means.
if zeiss zm is expensive, go with voigtlander. and fotodiox m adapter. so much smaller than any sony a-mount lenses.
These are not the only small legacy lenses out there – nor are they always the best. If u have a lot of money you can let it do the thinking for you. Tthe rest of us can do research and find really lovely slr lenses that are 1/10th the price.
all those pictures samples are focused far away almost to infinity. none of them showcase depth of field. but as like on steve huff’s review, it is so sad that the nex7 have color shift with the zeiss zm lenses.
i will now be cancelling my nex7 preorder. and will instead order the nex5n with viewfinder. steve also confirmed that there are NO problems with the rangefinder wide angle lenses on the nex5n. im already sold on the zeiss zm 21mm and the zeiss 50mm sonnar, but will now have to use it on nex5n. i guess it is nex5n and skip the nex7 until the nex9 comes out. only thing that really annoys me about the nex5n is the lack of a real hot shoe, and that if the viewfinder is used, flash cannot be used.
also getting the olympus e-pl3 with the 9-18mm lens.
Proposta:
A SONY deveria lançar uma NEX-6N com o corpo da NEX-7 e
CCD da NEX-5N.
Do you have an idea of how many people are asking for that? It’s same story as A77 with NEX-5N sensor..
wonder if because of the flooded production warehouse, it is a total loss. and sony must relocate and rebuild the manufacture warehouse. then since have to rebuild anyway, will sony address all the known issues of the nex7? maybe this second batch will correct? and funny that if 7 have 5n sensor i would even pay more for this lesser model.
This is why I’m not giving up FF for wide angle.
This is why I’ll never buy ANY M39 rangefinder lens for NEX.
This is why I’m glad to have the PEN FT lenses for NEX.
Clyde, I have NEX-5N here with a Voigtlander M mount 15mm F4.5 – cost $1100 and weighs less than 400grams in TOTAL.
Its gives me better image quality (sharpness, corner sharpness and distortion) as my Nikon D7000 and Nikon 12-24mm F4 – $2000 and 1250 grams.
It gives me equivalent image quality (slightly less resolution, but better corner sharpness and better dynamic range) than my 5D Mark 2 and 16-35L – $4300 and over 1500 grams.
I guess that’s why the DSLRs are sold. RF wides own SLR wides and don’t have any issues on the 5N or GXR.
I’m glad that works for you Sam. Good suggestion and I’ll consider that for myself. I’d have to weigh that against a 21mm Distagon on a900. The price is about the same as the NEX-5 with Voigt 15mm. Maybe a bit more depending on deal found.
I don’t foresee having to go very wide or tele with my NEX. That is still accomplished well enough on FF. I also like the idea of Shift lens stitching for quality wide angle work.
No doubt the Voigt and NEX5 is a strong solution. The portability/quality relationship is fab.
Is it right that the Nex-7 doesn’t have the microlens technology on its sensor as the Nex-5 ?
It seems Voigtlander 12 and 15mm give a better results on Nex-5 than on Nex-7.
I know that purple corners can be fixed with cornerfix, but what about the sharpness of VC12 or 15mm on Nex-7 ?