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(Continually updated) HOT! A77 and new E-mount lens roadmap!!! + Sigma 30mm for NEX!

Sony Japan just showed the new Sony A77 prototype!!! Attention has NOT been released! Sony Japan says it will be released mid 2011 (like we told you for months!!!). Our japanese friends could help us to translate the text found here: http://www.sony.jp/dslr/info2/20110209.html ? Thanks! There will be a new grip, new standard lens, new external flash and the long awaited 500mm f/4 lens!

And this is the new E-mount lens roadmap! Source Sony Japan:

Carl Zeiss lenses (scheduled for release in 2011, focal length: 24mm)
Telephoto zoom lens (available in 2011, focal length :55-200mm)
Macro lens (scheduled for release in 2011, focal length: 30mm)
Lens – Portrait (scheduled for release in 2011, focal length: 50mm)
G – High-performance standard zoom lens (available 2012)
Zoom wide (scheduled for release in 2012)
Medium Telephoto Lens (available 2012)

And finally Sigma shows a lens prototype for NEX! it’s a 30mm f/2-8. Source: DC.watch.

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  1. wait a second, zeiss 24mm?? we’ve already got one, do we?? don’t tell me those lenses listed above are all e-mount…

  2. firstttttttt…

    yeahhhh its not a ‘rumour’ anymore!!!

    wow i wonder if they will sell the a77 exactly like this with the transparent body. looks good!

    so we can now confirm its not a mock up since we can totally see all the electronics inside the body?

  3. Nooooo! Come on Sony, I just bought the Zeiss 16-80mm. Don’t tell me you are about to release a new standard lens 🙁

  4. so is the sigma manual or auto? and what’s the rational behind a transparent looking body which certainly does not look like magnesium alloy or is this another mock up? hmm

    1. I suspect this is how the real body will look (like the transparent model), but of course this is still an engineering prototype. The final body will not be transparent and from the hinges it looks like will be magnesium alloy as it was rumored before.

  5. Admin, I don’t understand, which is A-mount lens? or this is all E-mount?

    “Carl Zeiss lenses (scheduled for release in 2011, focal length: 24mm)
    Telephoto zoom lens (available in 2011, focal length :55-200mm)
    Macro lens (scheduled for release in 2011, focal length: 30mm)
    Lens – Portrait (scheduled for release in 2011, focal length: 50mm)
    G – High-performance standard zoom lens (available 2012)
    Zoom wide (scheduled for release in 2012)
    Medium Telephoto Lens (available 2012)”

  6. Translations for A-mount:
    – Midrange Concept Model (skeleton mock-up): schedule for 2011 release
    – New standard zoom: under development
    – 500mm f/4 G: under development
    – Flash unit: under development
    – Hand grip: under development (no word on compatibility)

    Translations for E-mount:
    – Sony will release E-mount specifications for lens and adapter manufacturers beginning April 1st for no charge (No indication of what specs will be made available)
    – 2011 E-mount lenses are as admin posted, but are listed as “scheduled development” (開発予定) rather than a specific “scheduled for release” (which would be 発売予定)

    1. also if the colour fringing and ghosting issues of the translucent mirror are still present the nex7 might be the way to go.

  7. extracted from sony japan website:

    some really small specs of the a77:

    Adopted a semi-transparent mirror “Translucent Mirror Technology” and the newly developed “Exmor” APS HD CMOS sensors will be installed in series A mid-mount machine concept model (skeleton model) on display(a77).

    The intermediate unit, will be available later this year and 2011, it works fast and accurate auto focus at all times, full HD video and still there was always the focus (AVCHD) delivers picture. (what does this mean?)

    The standard zoom lens suitable for intermediate unit, the flash will exhibit together with vertical grip.

  8. Transparent Body is for images only, if you want it print it and the glue it on your camera 🙂
    Sony released only the Focal lengths for the 4 lenses
    25mm
    30mm
    55-200mm
    50mm
    SAR already posted the aperture also
    24mm f/1.7
    30mm is a macro and f/3.5
    55-200 f/4-5.6
    50mm f/1.8
    The interesting thing would be the Sigma 30mm, how big is it in comparison to the 30mm from Sony? cause it sure looks like a macro lens.

    For a mount the standard zoom is supposed to be a 16-50mm f/2.8
    The interesting thing will be the new flash, how much more would it be like the current 58am, cause it will probably replace the 42am flash.
    Also i don’t think Sony will market the a77 as weather sealed, not really worth the law suits, though i am sure it will be able to withstand rain and snow.

  9. got 1 thing to understand, many expert say 50mm = human eye look. If i bought a 50mm lens, then this lens no longer serve as human eye look due to it has to multiply by camera apsc with 1.5crop, =75mm. So, in order to capture still that have human eye look in a 1.5crop body, i need a 30mm or 33.33mm lens, correct?

    1. Actually, it depends on the Focal length multiplier of the sensor.
      For example sony sensors usually have a 1.52 multiplier so a perfect lens would be around 32-33mm.
      Although a 50mm lens lens on a FF body (either film or digital) never is a perfect 50mm… it usually comes up a few mm lower or higher.
      I would say either a 30mm or a 35mm is what you want/need 🙂

  10. “i need a 30mm or 33.33mm lens, correct?” YES

    Just try to look with one eye through the viewfinder and normal with the other eye.

    With my A700 both “pictures” have the same size at ~35mm

    1. wddn – I don’t know how did you manage to do this… and if you really did than you have huge problem with eyesight – better contact nearest doctor. 😉

      Focal length of the human eye is roughly 22mm, while Field of view of the human eye is: 95° out, 75° down, 60° in, 60° up. About 12–15° temporal and 1.5° below the horizontal is the optic nerve or blind spot which is roughly 7.5° high and 5.5° wide. Giving roughly Fisheye lens field of view with both eyes.

      If I look with one eye through the viewfinder and normal with the other eye it appears that something about 70mm on APS-C camera is a point where pictures have same size. On 35mm everything is very small… about half the size, maybe bit more.

      Why you’d like 35mm lens on APS-C is because of it’s natural perspective, not because it has field of view identical to human eye, or that the objects appear in the same size as you’d look on them without camera.

      But get the lens anyway, hehehe 😉 🙂

  11. Note that the camera in the first frame is different to the one in the fifth (not just one being transparent) – focus mode selector is very different and angled in transparent version.

    1. The transparent mock-up and the older (black) mock-up are definitely two different body styles. Button/switches are different as well as the flash/viewfinder cover. The transparent camera has a wider flash/viewfinder cover…probably something to do with SLT?

  12. Yeah thats very sloppy, the fifth picture is the mockup we’ve seen before (and actually seems to highlight the feature that has in fact changed !).

    But the good news is the focus mode selector is now huge. I love this. So many cameras have small fiddly switches for focus – even my D2.

    Other differences: now we have FOUR buttons along the front. Lets hope they give us:
    compensation, ISO, White balance and Drive mode all right up front for one-handed operation !

    also there seems to be an optical sensor thing on the (slightly remodelled ?) handgrip which has moved up
    compared to the mockup. Anyone know what that does ?

    …. I’m tempted to move over from Nikon – but I’ll wait until I have one in my hands before I decide.

  13. I see two Alpha prototypes. One with an articulated screen, the other without. The buttons position is different as well.

  14. The website shows a mid-range alpha body (concept model) using Translucent Mirror Technology, equipped with an Exmor APS HD CMOS and AVCHD movie scheduled to be released in 2011. A new standard zoom lens is in development. I wonder if it’s going to be a G or not as there is already a Zeiss f/2.8. Other products include 500mm F4 G, external flash and vertical grip.

  15. Hey Admin!

    you said there was going to be a CF plus SD option on the a77…there appears to be only enough room for a SD card. ?!?!? So no more CF cards?? Is this true??

  16. more juicy skeleton pictures for you guys.

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fnews%2F20110209_425844.html

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcamera.itmedia.co.jp%2Fdc%2Farticles%2F1102%2F09%2Fnews050.html

    what we can see from the pictures about the a77:
    two dial controls
    two memory card slots
    articulated LCD screen, very similar to the a55/a33
    joystick control
    possible auto-focus sensor on hand-grip
    lots of buttons all over the body for us to play with

  17. Just a few notes:

    There are 2 prototypes. The black one is old, it was shown a few times for almost 2 years. You can use it as a comparision of how the design eveloved.

    The transparent one is new, Most likely is how the camera will look (exept it will not be transparent, of course). If the camera is to be released by mid year, there is no time for other changes so I would say don’t hope for any more or less buttons on it.

    The camera will have a metal body (like it was runored) , look at the hinges.

    The camera looks weather sealed or at least weather proof ( look at the rubber seal around the mount). This explains the need for a new kit lens. However it will be the first and only one for now, weather sealed Alfa lens. (It’s a start).

    Camera will have SD/MS support only ( no space for CF). It make sense both technically and as a business solution. If you used CF get over it (SD/SDHC/SDXC cards are cheap and getting faster ).

    Camera will have a new sensor (as expected), is on Sony JP site (but the specs of the sensor are not out yet, so still rumors).

    From Sony JP – camera will do “full HD” . Let’s hope this means 1080p60 (not 30). “Full HD” is used in different ways and it only means it has 1080 resolution (but does not say anything about frame rate). Let’s hope the new sensor will suport 60p.

    Camera has a new microphone with a wind shield on top. Let’s hope the new microphone and the new kit lens will allow good sound in video recordings.

    The camera has an articulated LCD but from the mockup the articulation looks different than A33/A55, so it may have a different articulation style ( either a better solution or a compromise,something to do with the weather sealing).

    1. What do you mean by “SD/MS support only ( no space for CF). It make sense both technically and as a business solution”? The fastest SD card I could find today was 45 MB/s. Now, lets assume that the camera can shoot 10 frames per second in 24 MP resolution. Judging from the RAW file size of my a900, this means ~36 MB/frame. 10 fps means 360 MB/sec, or endless 8 seconds to save a one second burst on a 45 MB/s card. But usually, you want more than one second. Say 10 seconds and you have enough time for a coffee break.

      On the other hand, SanDisk together with Sony and Nikon recently have defined a new standard for CF, which allows for 500 MB/s and 2 TB storage on one card, a card with would be pretty much appropriate for this beast, which would allow for 13 fps continous shooting until the card is full.

      http://www.sandisk.com/about-sandisk/press-room/press-releases/2010/2010-11-29-sandisk,-nikon-and-sony-propose-industry-standards-for-next-generation-high-speed-memory-card-format

    2. “This explains the need for a new kit lens. However it will be the first and only one for now, weather sealed Alfa lens.” – I really really hope you are right. Cause for me it wouldn’t be any surprise if Sony would release water sealed camera without any water sealed lenses.

      &RB – or they put 6GB DDR2 RAM inside B) 😉 There’s also possibility of using 2 cards at a time writing files simultaneously on two cards, so you’d have photo 1 on card A photo 2 card B, photo 3 card A, photo 4 card B, and so on… impractical while downloading shots with external reader but helps with the performance problem.

      I doubt though they have completed new CF standard and are ready to deploy the camera with it… but who knows?

      1. You mean, they will implement a RAID 0 with SD cards…¿? Boy… And two cards wouldn’t be enough, as this would give you only 2.5 fps continuous shooting. For 10 fps à 36 MB you would need 8 cards in parallel — a think one new generation CF card takes less space.

        A buffer doesn’t really help, as you need the coffee break afterward to copy your files to the card.

        1. True true… but even than it’s still only 2.5 fps? Gash…. I didn’t know the SD cards are SO slow… I knew they are slow, but even with simultaneous writing it’s still only 2.5fps? Gash…

  18. From the pics, it seems that this includes an internal flash? (cause of that button there on top of the lens socket, on the body, on the camera’s left side… or does that button function for another purpose?

  19. Regardless of whether the new CF standard is ready or not, the current fastest CF cards are faster than the current fastest SD cards, no?

    And of course, none of this matters if the maximum write speed of the camera itself is not very fast. We won’t know that for some time. In fact, I find it difficult to find that information for cameras that are already for sale. 🙁

  20. Nothing new concerning the CZ 24 mm e-mount ? price ? released when (soon or end of the year ?) Thanks
    I just can’t wait anymore !!!

  21. Sony extraordinary. :-))

    The plastic models are superb finalized.
    Their communication outperforms other manufacturers!

    Sony is launched in photography seriously
    and now the beginning of a new Alpha begins!

    Available May / June 2011

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