As you know, a new source told me a while ago here, that the new tele converter lens (TCL) for the X100/S will be available in late April / May. Now it is already listed at BHphoto’s website here. There is still no information about the price and release, yet.
With the [shoplink 12893]WCL-X100 ($300)[/shoplink] and TCL, X100/s owner will have a three-lens mini system (28mm, 35mm and 50mm) with leaf shutter, fast aperture and terrific IQ.
X-T1
– fuji x-t1 review #1: body & controls at f8blog here: “My first impressions are as positive as I anticipated they would be. Fuji has done a fine job designing this camera. The camera controls are very logical, and since there is a dedicated knob/switch for everything, you hardly need to dive into the menu at all.”
– Fuji X-T1 Review: 8 Hours Later at danielkcheung here: “Having now fumbled my way with the Fuji X-T1 at a wedding, I have a much better understanding of the X-T1′s strengths and weaknesses as per to the context of my specific experiences and usage of camera equipment. My main gripe is with the 4-direction pad and ISO dial locking mechanism. With time, I will overcome these I suppose. […] I’m not ready to say that the Fuji X-T1 is ideal for wedding photography; it is still early days. But I am happy to say that with more practice, I will get used to the quirks of the Fuji X-T1. I may make some modifications to the rear 4-direction pad. I will probably invest in faster memory cards. I also will need to wait for my XF14mm and XF56mm to arrive to do a thorough wedding test with a complete X-series camera set up. For now, I am satisfied.”
XF 56mm f/1.2
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– Review at dcfever here (translation).
XF 10-24
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– First Impressions Fujinon XF10-24mmF4 R OIS Lens at bertstephani here: “Great lens and I wouldn’t hesitate to highly recommend it to Fuji shooters who like it really wide. I’ll probably stick to the 14mm but that has nothing to do with the quality of the 10-24. It’s just that I don’t shoot a lot of wide angle pictures and for the few that I do, the 14mm is a better choice to me because it takes up less space and weight in my bag. But if I shot a lot of wide angle work, I would definitely add this lens to my collection.”
X-E2
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– Read trustedreviews‘ review here: “The X-E2 doesn’t succeed in every area, failing to match competing models in terms of AF speed and Wi-fi performance. However, if you’re looking for a retro rangefinder-type CSC that delivers in terms of design and image quality, the X-E2 is a pleasure to use and one of the best on the market.”
– Duncan Foster: “You sometimes publish reviews of newer Fuji cameras. If you want another one of the X-E2 on a trip in Belize, the review is here. And more photos from the trip (all taken with the X-E2) are here.”
– Fujifilm X-E2 review at trustedreviews here: “The X-E2 doesn’t succeed in every area, failing to match competing models in terms of AF speed and Wi-fi performance. However, if you’re looking for a retro rangefinder-type CSC that delivers in terms of design and image quality, the X-E2 is a pleasure to use and one of the best on the market.”
– AF speed comparison X-E1 vs X-E2 on youtube here.
– Fuji X-E2 – Voigtlander 20mm – Fuji 55-200 – More beauty and the beast at soundimageplus here.
– Fuji X-E2 with XF 55-200mm vs Nikon D4 with 28-300mm at stanleyleary here: “If you are used to being able to shoot sports as I have with a auto focus system as quick as the Nikon D4, then you will be a little disappointed in the Fuji. However if you never shot with the best Nikon systems, then you might be OK and not notice the delay.” For his other post “Fuji X-E2 is great for meetings“ click here.
X100S
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– NYC Long Exposures with the Fujinon [shoplink 12893]WCL-X100[/shoplink] at stephenip here: “The good thing about the conversion lens is that the filter thread is the same size as the X100S. This meant that I didn’t have to buy an additional step up ring to use my ND filter. The bad thing is that you need to tell the camera the lens is mounted to get the right Exif data. Not a huge deal, but I did find myself constantly forgetting to switch this setting on and off during our trip.”
– Settings for Great Black and White with the Fuji X100s – Part II at outdoorimagesfineart here: “It’s a long time coming, but I wanted too finish the discussion I started about using black and white with the Fuji X100s. I extend this now to really include all the Fuji X series, including the X-Pro1 and the X-E2. If you recall from the first part I tried what others have used by increasing contrast using the red filter option. However, I didn’t like the grey rendering for some colors.”
– Food photography with Fujifilm X100s at pavels here: “Again, zero experience with paid food photography and Fujifilm X100s as my only workhorse camera.”
– One Week in the Field with the Fuji X100s at photographytricks here: “Put simply, the Fuji X100s made shooting with a DSLR seem soulless and disconnected. For the first time in a long time, I am using a camera that seems a part of me, yet connects me seamlessly to my subject.”
– Wedding Photography with the Fujifilm X100S at rogerspictures here: “One of the things I love about using this tiny camera is the fast f/2.0 fixed 23mm lens. Because the sensor is smaller than a traditional 35mm DSLR, the equivalent focal length is 35mm, and the images have slightly more depth of field than a f/2.0 lens would have on it’s larger cousin. But for a camera this small, the shallow depth of field is still almost unique. I use that feature a lot in my compositions, framing the subject with natural elements, the depth of field drawing the viewers attention to the subject with less distraction.”
– review at michaelkircher here: “This is in no way the most comprehensive review of this camera you can find. For that you should check out David Hobby and Zack Arias and Kai Wong. What follows is simply a first impression type of review after a few days usage. No pixel peeping or tech talk is used…well, not excessively anyway.”
X-E1
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– A Dabble in Commercial Shooting with My X-E1 at adrielhenderson here: “My personal photography kit consists of a Fuji X-E1 paired with the XF 35mm f/1.4 and XF18-55 lenses, four cheap YN-560 speed lights, triggers, an off-brand soft box, a handful of umbrellas and stands. Add to that my DIY collection: a pile of homemade ghetto sandbags, a staples-and-felt soft box grid, and best yet, my flower-pot-turned-beauty-dish! Quite the circus, really.”
– Hemanshu Narsana: “Hi Patrick, Since you keep featuring photographers and are extremely passionate about the Fuji series, I thought I’d share some photos I recently took with the XE-1 and8mm Rokinon. I am based out of India, and I don’t see many Fuji photographers here, so I thought I could try and provide an Indian perspective on the Fuji scene. Everyone who sees my XE-1 or my X100s is beginning to wonder what they are missing out on! Keep up the good work. I check your site every day for updates! Thank you for doing that for us!” Read and see his post “Fuji XE-1 with the 8mm Rokinon on my trip to Pondicherry” here at yougotlittup.
– A Vintage Alternative With Fuji X-E1 by Meng Yeap at findingrange here: “The quality that is produced from the Helios 44m is awesome. The lens is sharp wide open at f/2. For me, it is sharp enough especially, when I am shooting portrait with it. But if you want to get tack sharp photos, do shoot it at f/4 and above. The bokeh produced is also very smooth and shooting it at wide open f/2, it is definitely bokehlicious.”
X-PRO1
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– The Owl Sanctuary (Barrow in Furness) – Fuji X-Pro1 / XF 60mm 2.4 R Macro at roblowephoto here: “Up until recently, my two favourite macro lenses were always the Ricoh A12 50mm 2.5 or the Fujifilm XF 60mm 2.4 – both 1:2 (half-size) macros.”
– February 17th, 2014 ….. Fuji XP1 & 15mm Heliar ….. Ideal Street Combo! at streetshooter here.
– Marrakech summer trip with the Fuji X-Pro1 at fullframeboy here.
– Fuji X-Pro1 Shoots The Moon at prometheus here: “I’ve been exploring astrophotography a bit more with the Fuji X-Pro1 and have been tremendously happy shooting the moon at least. The next step in the evolution of astrophotography with this camera is to start shooting more deep sky objects.”
– Fuji X-Pro1 camera test at markboltonphotography here: “My most recent camera acquisition, before the X-Pro1, was the Sony RX100… I kept it for 4 months before getting rid of it… The X-Pro 1 is obviously a different beast entirely, but I can assure you that it will still be in my camera bag for a while to come!”
– A camera build to endure klutzes: the Fuji X-Pro1 at charlenewinfred here: “The fact that my X-Pro 1 still working is a testament to how solidly this baby was built. Against all odds, despite the slew of delicious new offerings from Fuji, I’m hoping it will be a companion for many more years.”
X-A1
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– X-A1 review at pcmag here: “The Fujifilm X-A1 is the least expensive X-series camera that Fuji sells; while it doesn’t feature the company’s unique X-Trans image sensor, it’s still a solid performer.”
X-M1
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X-M1 review at neocamera here: “People looking for great image-quality at an affordable price have a good deal to like about the Fuji X-M1. This mirrorless itself is also relatively compact and saves weight compared to a DSLR. While Fuji’s lenses are not the smallest, most offer impressive image-quality which allow the X-Trans sensor to show its full potential.”
lenses
– Fuji 55-200mm review at thephotofrontier here: “If you are looking for long lens with great image quality, a pro build, and very functional image stabilization…well, this is it!”
– Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 (Fujifilm) – Review / Test Report Lens Reviews – Fujifilm X-Pro at photozone here: “The Zeiss Touit 32mm f/1.8 is capable of delivering the high quality results that we associate with this brand. The images are sharp straight from the max. aperture and the center quality is even stunning when stopping down.”
– A Very Brief Review of the Fujinon XF 35mm 1.4 lens at colinnichollsphotography here: “Peoples main love of this lens comes from its outstanding sharpness, I’m not going to make tests and charts, but show two examples of just how good it is, even wide open, which is how I shoot this lens most of the time.”
– Hands On with Fuji’s Premium X-Series Long Lens at macleancomms here: “Well the image and build quality are on a par with the other X-Series XF lenses and despite the variable aperture, the images are sharp across all focal lengths and at all apertures. Even with the aperture wide open and the lens zoomed out to 200mm, the results are really impressive.”
– XC 50-230mm review at photographyblog here: “Priced at £379 / $399, we probably wouldn’t rush out and buy one, but the Fujifilm XC 50-230mm F4.5-6.7 OIS is definitely a cut above the usual cheap telephoto lenses. If you can’t stretch to the better-performing and better-built Fujifilm XF 55-200mm F3.5-4.8 R LM OIS, or can’t wait for the upcoming XF 50-140mm f/2.8 R OIS WR, then this affordable telephoto lens is still worth adding to your X-series system.”
Speed Booster:
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– Metabones Nikon F to Fuji X adapters at fujixtras here: “Looking at the Speed Booster, the resulting images come very close to the “experience” obtained with a full-frame camera, and the image quality of the attached lens is largely preserved. The extra f-stop is a welcome addition to that. The Speed Booster helps to fill gaps in Fujifilm’s current XF lens line-up, at least until new lenses are added to the roadmap and become available (and the extra cash is spent).”
RAW-conversion / Jpeg vs RAW
– Hank: “Patrick, I just published an article that attempts to discover whether there have been any meaningful improvements in processing X Trans files in the new ACR release. As always it can be found at henrysmithscottage.com. Thanks!” – Later versions of ACR are much better than the early versions. I’m not sure if there is much improvement in detail with the newest release. I’ll use it though.
– JPG vs RAW at arihallami here (translation): “Yet another story for Fujifilm shooters. This time it’s about how to scale your images to have a filmy look and why not to shoot JPG with high ISO. Google translate will probably make a mess with translation, but the images will tell you the obvious.”
– A first look at the Fujifilm Film Simulation modes with Adobe Camera Raw 8.4 at mirrorlessons here: “[…] the update remains interesting as it gives you a starting point to build upon in the recreation of your Fujifilm OOC JPGs taken with the in-camera film simulation modes. The rendering may not be identical but at least you aren’t creating something out of nothing as you would be if you were working the RAF files without the Camera Raw update.”
– Dan Bailey: “Here’s another- shooting RAW with the X-T1 and seeing how much information is actually preserved in the X-Trans sensor on the X-T1.” Read more at danbaileyphoto here. “As much confidence as I have in the Fuji JPEGs, sometimes RAW is necessary if you want to preserve the maximum level of sharpness, exposure and color info in your image, especially in tricky light. Seeing how well the 16MP X-Trans sensor handles RAW gives me even more confidence to use the X-T1 in any kind of situation.”
– Film Candy for Lightroom Now Available at thomasfitzgeraldphotography here: “After over a year of going back and forth trying to port my Film Candy presets to Lightroom, I’m delighted to say that they’re finally available. Film candy for Lightroom is a set of Develop Module that I designed to create a stylised image based on the look of expired and instant film.”
– Optimal Sharp and Optimal Snap a good combination for Fuji X-T1 Images at outbackphoto here.
a little bit of everything
– Why Do DSLRs Still Sell Better Than Mirrorless Systems? at amateurphotographer here (via CanonWatch via MirrorlessRumors).
– Another Fuji manager says: “Full Frame? First complete the APS-C line, and then maybe… we are investigating!” Read more at the Spanish site dslrmagazine here (tranlsation).
– Fujifilm 2014 Rajasthan Photo Trek at thedigitaltrekker here: “It is always difficult to find even a few moments to post photos and updates when leading a workshop. But we have made it to Pushkar and that means for the participants of the Fujifilm Rajasthan Photo Trek a day of rest.”
– My Mirrorless Choice(s) – Fuji X-E2 and/or Fuji X-M1 and/or Sony A7 and/or Panasonic GX7 – Part 4 – Fuji X – Beauty and the Beast at soundimageplus here.
– V Opoku: “Hey Patrick, I just returned back from shooting a wedding in Jamaica. I shared my thoughts with Fujifilm UK on using their cameras for wedding photography, and it ended up as an interview blog post on their site (read it here). Just thought I will share the post with you and I hope that it is helpful for any wedding photographers who are interested in the Fujifilm X-Series, especially with the newly announced XT1 looking pretty good. Here is the link to the wedding.”
. Mat: ” […] Fujifilm is going to discontinue the best medium format instant film, the 3×4 FB-3000b. This saddens me and about 11.000 customers who signed a petiton. I guess there is a way to stop Fuji from stop production: selling directly from Fuji’s sites? Producing after a great global order placement? In marketing terms, it is important for Fuji itself to keep a strong connection with instant analogue artists and enthusiasts. It would be great if you could make some room in your blog for this petition: https://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-discontinuation-of-fuji-3000b-instant-film-by-fujifilm. I’m not a native english speaker so, please, forgive my mistakes. Thank you Patrick. Kind regards, Mat, Milan”
– A FR-reader wrote me: “Have you ever seen the site Pixel Peeper? Well Fujifilm has seven (7) lenses in the top 20 most popular and the 35mm f1.4 is in the top spot under mirrorless lenses.“
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One main reason why DSLRs sell better: people are clueless.
DSLR’s still have their place. I think they’re even more “future proof” than mirrorless cameras at the moment. Canon has been selling the same L lenses for 10 years or so with no degradation of image quality and a sustainable price tag. If Fuji where to release a Full Frame body we’d all be chucking thousands of dollars worth of glass out the window in order to get the larger image circle lenses. Then there’s battery life… no pro could shoot a wedding with a Fuji X-T1 without having to swap out the battery 4+ times. The EVF on the XT1 is incredible, but unfortunately I would still take a 5D MK3 OVF over it. I’m not dissatisfied with the EVF, but it still can’t beat the true real image of a high end OVF. That being said, I personally have abandoned my DSLR for mirrorless, but its mainly because I’ve become more of a hobbiest and a compact size has taken presidence. .Mirrorless is quickly catching up, its only a matter of time.
Of course, they have their place. Most of the market share is not based on 5D3 or D800 cameras though, but on Rebels and other entry-level DSLRs, which, imho, are subpar compared to mirrorless ‘equivalents’. Consumers, for the most part, are not really aware of what mirrorless means, DSLRs look like a sure value and Canon and Nikon are both well recognized brands without proper mirrorless offerings. My guess is, that in a few years, the percentage of mirrorless vs DSLR cameras would look quite different.
I’d agree with that, but cost might come into play. A rebel with a 50mm F1.8 from canon is a lot cheaper than a X-E2 + 35mm 1.4
Very true, once the likes of Fuji are able to sell more units per annum, then we may see the prices drop. At the moment, with lower volume sales, the price has to remain high to bring in enough cash to cover the R & D.
I think its more the fact that fuji doesn’t produce cheap “kit” type glass, or cheaply made bodies. Everything is made from aluminum or magnesium. A rebel is plastic inside and out.
That is very true, and hopefully it stays that way. Often people say, “I can get a DSLR for less”. But as you mentioned, they tend to be rebels which feel very cheap. Really, I place the Fuji X-T1 & X-Pro1 in between Canons XXD and 5D in terms of “build quality”. The 5dmkii I had didn’t feel any stronger or more finished than the T1, especially with the vertical grip.
Unfortunately, people see mirrorless as being below DSLR’s, even the plastic Rebels. The marketing teams need to turn that impression around. When they do, and volumes of sales increase, it will help them to reduce the prices a little as well.
Do I begrudge the current prices? No, I paid big £’s for large glass for a FF DSLR that were no better (often worse) than Fuji lenses. The 23mm was my last purchase and I am literally stunned by its quality. Long may it continue…. patiently waiting for the 56 🙂
The market has spoken. Marketing has had six years to try to convince people that their better judgement in terms of consumer value is wrong.
If after six years the inroads mirrorless has made are eroding, that’s not a good sign. Mirrorless is in real danger of circling the drain.
There have been no new mirrorless lines in a few years now. No new manufacturers are going to show up with new lines- I doubt even Leica will desite its talk, unless it’s another rebadged Panasonic.
Mirrorless had the original promise of being the DSLR alternative- lighter, cuter, smaller, yet great results albeit a miniature format. That deliverable took it a long way.
Then sales fell flat and went south. Mirrorless decided it had to pretend it was a DSLR too. If you can’t fight them, join them. The problem is we get variations on a theme that hit a certain high point in picture taking ability two or three years ago and never went beyond. Olympus EM’s keep hashing the same sensor capability, and likewise with Fuji. Who will break beyond that 16MB magic barrier?
Most of all: MIrrorless got tripped up by its own belief that the DSLR was dead. After six years mirrorless is treading water. And you know what? Not only do they refuse to lower their prices to be competitive with DSLRs, they double down on high prices.
When they all announce they will concentrate on high end models (read, expensive models with higher profit margin so that they can make more money from each customer), and the market has already shown a disinclination from these prices, they are committing slow suicide.
Combine that with the aging demographic for ALL cameras. Hint: “Reviewers” say the Nikon Df is loved by old people. The reality is, the large MAJORITY of expensive cameras of all formats are bought by old people.
These old people already have a Sony and a Nikon and a Panasonic and an Olympus and a Fuji because the interweb boards told them they had to. THey have too many devices that take equivalent photos, and they see no improvement. They think of all the money they spent. Yes, photo fatigue sets in. No more money wasted on ridiculous luxury consumer toys.
Finally, the pricing models are ridiculous. Expecting consumers to pay good money for your model today knowing you will skim the price down within a year by 50%, is a disservice to customers. This is not a law of nature, it is deliberate pricing strategy. Despite trying to convince us via the interweb that ‘this is just the way things are,’ things are the way because of deliberate overpricing and then dropping.
Consumers are tired of high prices and quick loss of value. You want them to buy your newer toys? You better make sure the product they bought last year holds its value so that they can trade it in.
Corporate stupidity and ego leads to high prices. Corporate stupidity sees the market diminish and doubles down. Meanwhile, the old consumers are tapped out, tired of your repeated promises (fastest focusing ever), tired of loss of value, and have seen no real image improvement over the last three models they bought. They’re done.
I have to disagree here big time. They didn’t have 6 years to convince people to use mirrorless. 6 years ago there was simply one Panasonic camera released with a couple of lenses. It is only in the last couple of years that we began having somewhat more complete mirrorless systems.
And there was a new line of products released just 5 months ago – the FF e-mount. The Fuji X is only two years old.
So, the market hasn’t spoken at all. And your 16MP “barrier” was broken 2 years ago by Sony.
1+ Vlad, I’m glad you replied to him, because to be honest, I couldn’t be bothered. His near on fanatical ramblings gave the impression he was wanting to listen, just preach… there are so many hole’s in his argument it would sink without a trace.
The mirrorless market is actually contracting and what is sold is now shared between several companies.The financial results from all the major mirrorless players has been pretty bad.
I am pretty certain when Canon or Nikon feel the need to release serious mirrorless APS/FF cameras { though they have little reason to do so at the moment} . Then some of the current mirrorless companies would be in deep trouble.
The mirrorless problem is a problem with marketing and perception. If Fuji, Sony, Olympus, or Panasonic put real money into marketing mirrorless systems this wouldn’t be happening. Until they do some real marketing and advertising in US, the situation wont change. Fuji’s price cuts last month were a great start. But they need a consistent advertising campaign to go with it.
Mirrorless is clearly the future–it’s only a matter of time. The problem is a lack of awareness and overall perception of DSLRs as the only option for a quality camera.
Careful there. Excluding the Leica M-mount cameras that were always without mirror but use a separate optical finder and therefore is a special case the first “mirrorless” system camera was Panasonic G1 coming late 2008. So in reality it is only a little over five years. The CD introduced 1978 didn’t win over the LP until early 90’s. The first digital cameras came to the market in the late 80’s. But it wasn’t until 10-11 years ago they passed cameras for film. So why would cameras without mirror win over DSLRs in just five years? Wait five years more and I am sure the market for cameras will be clearly different from now.
Reason mirrorfree (Sounds better than mirrorless!) cameras cannot compete with DSLRs yet is that Canon and Nikon have the advantage of being big and are selling a lot of old generation entry level DX DSLRs at discount for for a great value. In good times people can pay a little more for things like small size and try new things. In bad times price and value is most important. Another thing is EVF’s only now, and only in the best cameras, like Olympus OM-D E-M1 and Fujifilm X-T1, can compare with optical finders. AF also only recently started catching up with DSLR’s.
With better AF, EVFs, even in cheaper model lines, and video (Mostly thinking about olympus and Fujifilm here, not Panasonic!) DSLRs will soon not have any advantages left, except for those who prefer the DSLR form factor. Full frame DSLR’s may still be preferable in the future as there is no general advantage with a mount closer to the sensor than the diameter of the image circle because of the need for more telecentric lenses for digital sensors compared to film. Besides full frame is only a small piece of the market for more advanced photographers.
No new mirrorless lines? On the contrary! I see new mirrorless lines and camera producers entering the market every year. Just recently Samsung announced their second mirrorless camera mount! When was the last time a new DSLR-line was introduced? That must have been Olympus E-1 in 2003! By now it is officially dead replaced by M4/3.
Sony already had 24MP in their NEX7 more than two years ago. Besides 16MP is more than enough for APS-C sensors and most people buying them. That said sensors will see continued improvements as we have seen in later years. As to the rest of your rant I see it directed at the camera sector as a whole and while I may agree with some but not other things I have no further comments.
No, once Fuji is able to sell more units per annum at the current prices, they will be encouraged to raise their already-high prices even more.
And of course, they won’t sell more. But who knows, in their quest for oblivion they may still raise prices even more.
How about a T5i with a 35mm f1.4… y’know, so the comparison is fair? 😉
Well he could go for the superb Sigma 35mm F1.4 which when combined with the Canon will still be a little cheaper than the Fuji + 35mm.Though the Canon sensor is not exactly the best lol
Can’t you make your way through a wedding with 2 X-T1 bodies with battery grips, 23mm 1.4 and 56mm 1.2? That’s really all you need, just focus on getting great photos with this amazing equipment instead. After using the X-T1 for some days now, I can confirm that I much rather prefer the EVF of this camera than any FX OVF I’ve been using during the last years… It’s a matter of taste, I guess!
People want DSLR’s, give them DSLR’s. Its only a form-factor, Fuji has no problem pumping out different form-factors … My guess is that pretty soon Fuji will release an X-mount camera styled on a DSLR, just like the XS1.
Its worth looking at a side by side comparison of the Canon Rebel T5(1200D), T5i(700D) and the Fuji T1:
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=canon_eos700d&products=canon_eos1200d&products=fujifilm_xt1&sortDir=ascending
Price is the obvious problem, and those listed in the comparison are the introductory prices. I doubt it costs more to make the T1 than it does the 700D but still Fuji wants 400 more for that one … and the Fuji lenses …
And its not just Fuji … Oly and Pana are the same. Sony on the other hand understands the price problem if their latest cameras are any indication.
Many consumers want DSLRs for the wrong reasons. That’s my point. And, right now, it is not only about form factor, although it will be in a few years.
Price is indeed a problem (although I disagree with comparing the X-T1 to the Rebels), but merely a temporary one and mostly for the high-end. Entry-level models with kit lenses are very similarly priced.
Maybe, but a camera company can easily go out of business waiting for people to change their reasoning. The market is quite clear at the moment actually and to be honest, if I were not into rangefinder style cameras, I would buy the 700D or a 5D – they are much better value than any mirror-less offering. Yes, the 5D is a little bit big (its FF after all), but the 700D is not much different to the T1.
One only needs to consider how well the EOS-M sold in some markets. Its performance may not have been great but it really looked modern and was priced correctly. IQ is more than good enough.
That first sentence I wholeheartedly agree with. Different strategies from different companies.
As to value, I’d say the Sony a7 at half the price of the 5D3 is a rather great value (obviously, depending on one’s needs). Same goes for the NEX-6 and the 700D.
The EOS-M was a limited camera at release, when compared to competition, was not priced accordingly (that happened later) and Canon stalled development. I’d say that’s why it failed to catch on.
The EOS-M was good optically but introduced at an outrageous price in the US market. Casual photographers opted for the much cheaper DSLR product, and serious photographers looking for a compact model were put off by the lack of viewfinder. It was an odd product launch.
Yes, people are clueless. They decide to buy from a manufacturer who has a real chance of still being around in two years. They decide to buy a larger frame format with more image rendering capability, low light capability, greater resolution, greater dynamic range. They decide to buy a camera with faster frame-to-frame, faster autofocus, that ships right the first time without the need for constant firmware updates. They buy into a mass of lens possibilities, new and used, including lenses with real finshed optical properties, not ones that need fixing for all kinds of aberrations in software.
Most of all, they buy these product for half the price of the mirrorless.
Ha ha, those clueless idiots.
Sony has been around since 2006, m43 since 2008. More than 2 years and still here.
There is no Canon APS-C camera that can beat my NEX-7 in DR or resolution. There is no Canon camera that can beat the a7 sensor, which is cheaper than their cheapest FF offering. And mirrorless offers an infinitely bigger mass of used lens possibilities.
But nice try (not really, of course, because you absolutely didn’t get my point).
Canon don’t seem to need to have the best sensor to sell probably double what all mirrorless makers sell added together. Not , hyperbole DSLRs made up 81% of all cameras shipped from Japan last year.
How does your argument work for Nikon APS even with them using a non Sony sensor. The D610 is within spitting distance price wise of the A7 { UK difference about £100} .You are the one insulting anyone not falling for the appeals of mirrorless , and there are an awful lot of them, including probably 99% of the world pro shooters.
The vast majority of casual photographers { which makes up nearly all photographers} have zero interest in adapting manual lenses from other systems with even more limitations than mirrorless already has.
I don’t think I am insulting anyone, not sure what you are reading. My argument works very well for Nikon too. One can buy the same sensor as in the D800 for several hundreds/dollars less. And casual users also aren’t interested in the bigger lens selections of Canikon, they buy kit lenses.
Sure you can save a couple of hundred dollars , and get worse build quality, poor C-AF, poor tracking, no built in flash and so on. They problem with both the A7 and A7r is that it is all too obvious which corners have been cut to make them cheap. Speaking as an A7r and D800e owner I wish they had charged a couple of hundred dollars more for the A7r and fixed some of the issues as given us a better camera.
As for not insulting people I am afraid when you label a huge group of users as “clueless ” for not sharing your minority view, is indeed insulting.
I understand how my first comment can be construed as being negative, but that’s your own decision and there’s a comment above that clearly explains my position (order them by oldest). It’s not about a minority view, it’s about knowledge. Beginners are generally clueless, I’ve been one of them, you too. Nothing to be insulted about.
As to the discussion about vs mirrorless vs DSLR, you’d notice that ronin makes a vast generalization that DSLRs are better at everything, yet cheaper, and I clearly showed that this is not the case. Btw, the a7r is more than a couple of hundreds cheaper, has perfectly fine buid quality, significantly better live view, is smaller, has a tilt screen etc. Horses for courses.
Totally off topic, but just ordered the X-T1 from AmazonUS through one of your links. I hope loads of other people have done the same so the site can keep growing. It’s incredible to see what’s happened with it in the past couple of years.
thanks a lot for your support Mads. I’ll keep it up and continue to give my best for the growing Fuji-community.
and as soon as you have your first shots with the X-T1, feel free to share them with FR… I’m sure they will be stunning as the rest of your work: http://northbound.gl/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2RUz-Hyy1E
Very good and objective review, applauds Fuji for the great things on X-T1 (EVF, dials), and makes clear the AWFUL things also (dial pad, need to press a button and after OK to select focus point!, face detection excludes any other focus point, only +-1EV for bracketing, slow flash sync speed, pseudo split prism focus assist, focus peaking in low light, remote app not working, slow to select focus point, it could use front and back wheel)
FYI, After you have selected focus point there is no need to press OK. Just halfpress the trigger and the focus point is confirmed. That you can skip the OK button and halfpress the trigger actually seems to be a strategy that Fuji applies consistently to selections. I have seen it in several other places in the menu system for the X-E1, X100S and X-T1.
If you want to speed up the four way selection pad for selecting focus point even more, you can assign all four function buttons (Fn3-Fn6) to focus point selection. That leaves you with only Fn1 and Fn2 for other functions, but you still have the Q menu.
Another reason why dslrs sells better is because there are cheaper lens. Average consumer don’t need f/1.2-1.4 prime lens or a f/2.8 zoom. They just want cheap lens that are decently sharp. Fuji already their cheap zooms. Now they should start making cheap f/1.8-2 prime lens and sell them for like $200 – $300.
Yes, you are rigth, if Fuji will put on sale some prime more small in size and more cheap this will wide the bacine of users: a 16 f 2.8, a 55 f 2 and a 120 f2.8 will be welcomed.
I think the average casual suburban buyer wants cheaper zoom lenses. Many of them can’t be bothered with single foal-length lenses and do not understand (or care) about the optical advantages. Small-aperture kit zoom? Just let the camera automatically bump up the ISO setting. Sorry, that’s how they think.
Slightly off topic, but after all the discussions about FF for Fuji, I am wondering if it would not make more sense for Fuji to go directly toward 433 or 645.
The benefits of a FF sensor versus the current excellent APS-C would not be extremely obvious, while the effort to create a brand new line-up of lenses will be seriously weighting on Fuji’s RD and Engineering teams.
Creating an innovative and high quality body for professionals, based on a 4/33 or 6/45 sensor, with matching high-quality Fujinon lenses could bring a compelling offer for professionals.