During his speech at the CP+ show Mr. Ogawa from Olympus said that they will likely launch a special 80th anniversary camera model sometimes this year. He didn’t share any ulterior detail about the camera. But I hope it’s more than just a strnage painted camera 🙂
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It’ll be more than strangely painted, of course. It will be a gold-plated titanium E-M1…
But what will panasonic Launch .. there has been mostly stuff coming out from Olympus.. Good stuff at that. Where is the Panasonic telephotos with IS for the GH4 nature shooters.
Panasonic should just go full IBIS, OIS-lenses are not competitive. I don’t want to be forced to pay IS-extra for every lens when there’s a better solution with matching lenses available in the m43-world… Imagine a world where every lens from both Pana and Oly work seamlessly together!
Definately if patents or other factors (outside of their control) are not limitting them in doing so. Then again a Long tele lenses may work better with their own IS system. I’m no expert but that is my hazy understanding about the matter.
Will never happen.
You didn’t read that like from a previous post here, where some photo was comparing the GX7 and a Olympus camera?
Even though the GX7 was better or even in about every way, the writer said he still prefers the Olympus, because… It’s an Olympus. -it holds a special place to him, even though the GX7 is a Better camera.
And don’t hold your breath for built in IS from panasonic. That would only make the cameras larger and more expensive. Plus most of their lenses have OIS, so there is no need too.
In all honesty, they should go either APS-C or small Full Frame, to compete with Sony before Canikon joins the battle. A full frame GH4 with all the bells and whistles, would be a major threat.
And what would a full frame GH4 do for lenses?
I can just see thousands of bodies of Canikon owners writhing on the ground as they laugh uncontrollably at the lensless non-threat.
My dear Mr ALLICANDOISTALKCRAP .constantly,
Do you ever think, or engage your brain ,before you unleash your gems of wisdom on an unsuspecting world?
WE LIKE the M4/3s standard as it is for its many benefits, that is why this site exists.
If YOU, in your infinite wisdom, are not happy for any reason whatsoever with M4/3s then there are plenty of alternative great APS-C and FF systems just waiting for your incredible skills to be unleashed to a waiting world agog with excitement and anticipation.
Relax, nobody is going to take away your toy.
As for small sensor benefits, there is only price (not size, unless you use non-equivalent lenses). However, this is negated by the wild pricing by O and P.
Actually, the digital OM4 that takes OM mount lenses would be very appropriate. No need to make lenses, plenty out there already. They could just re-make the 50mm F1.4 as the lens it is sold with.
I think, though, they are more likely to just do an LX100 competitor that they were doing anyway and cal it the anniversary model.
No reason for such a sidestep, would give a wrong signal. I’d rather see a Om-d e-m4 or something like that. An om-d body with pdaf but no grip.
Personally, I’d like to see a PEN F-D. Basically a digital PEN F with a good EVF built in. Shouldn’t be hard for them to do.
Scale it down a bit from the original, and drop the rest of the PEN line.
yes, that would be cool.
The transparent PEN with vertical viewfinder displayed during CP+ supports your guess.
http://www.43rumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/03-700×525.jpg
yea, but that’s and ovf
Yep….but I agree with Sterling, it’s not a patch on the PEN F. I would like something that would work with all my lenses: or a competitor to the LX100.
It will surely pay tribute to Oly’s small-zise ethos. Might be something quite unusual. I wouldn’t rule out an E-P80, a weather sealed Pen with a vertical sensor and a corresponding EVF in its top corner.
EPM build in viewfinder + fix lense 1.2
Maybe the Trip-D style
Digital Trip FTW! OVF with info digital overlays like in the X100.
Just like I mentioned above. Knock Fiji off… LOL!
You have a Fiji camera? I did not know they made a digital camera, I used a slr from a long time ago by them.
Whatever it is, I’m sure they’re going to knock off Fuji again.
Fujitsu started this retro-look, then Olympus kicked them off. Then Fuji does titanium, and look who follows soon afterwards, Olympus.
Re-introducing something you did 25 years ago is not copying Fuji.
http://forum.xitek.com/upload/2/267/om3ti_top.jpg
Nobody was doing it, or thought it was cool, Until Fuji did it.
That’s all I’m saying.
-And I mean the retro look.
See Olympus, Nikon…
Meh, all Fuji did was a poor mans Leica clone with APS-C. Nobody is really original here…
Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong? Olympus started m4/3 with a PEN. Olympus couldn’t care less about anything Fuji makes.
The Pen e-p1 and e-p2 were released in 2009, the x100 was Fuji’s first modern retro model and wasn’t released until 2010.
That’s a pretty strange comment considering you were around m43 at the beginning?? Olympus began the recent retro trend with the E-P1.
You’re really letting your hatred of Olympus cloud your view which is a pity as (occasionally) you make a valid point.
Not you again Mr ALLICANDOISTALKCRAP.
Why do you bother to pollute this site with your inane drivel ? Is your life so empty you have to continually post negativity on a site dedicated to a system you loathe? We get it , you are an American who does not like smaller cameras with smaller sensors. Fine bully for you, but why whine about it here , nobody is interested or cares what you think.
Why not stick to your chosen system, whatever format it is, take photographs and then prove to the world what a wonderfuuly talented photograher you are? People may then begin to respect your comments a little more, as they will be validated by your mind blowing images.
Wow… a Butthurt European.
Tissue?
OBVIOUSLY, You are interested and care what I think, because you replied!
And even though I switched to Fuji, I still use my M43 camera as a backup if needed, so I can have an opinion. And I wouldn’t say I’m a talented photographer, but others here have said so in the past, after shutting a few haters up.
And at the end of the day, you don’t have to respect me. Who are YOU to need your respect? You’re just another mouth, showing no respect in the first place, with a hatred for Americans, I assume?
Pathetic. I don’t need any validation, from the likes of you and your blind lot.
Good day.
Every time you post dear Mr ALLICANDOISTALKCRAP endlessly, you only prove my point- thank you.
FWIW. sorry to disappoint you, but I do note hate Americans per se , but do find those with limited intelligence a little tiresome.
By the way, do tell us how you use your back up M4/3s system lenses with your main Fuji system and vice versa.
Also I seem to have missed seeing your wonderful work . Would you mind posting examples again so we can all see exactly why you have such a tremendous problem with M /4/3s, and insist on repeating ad nauseam that only APS- C or FF is worthy of you outstanding talent.
Who am I to need my own respect? Not really sure about that little conundrum. I realise you are an American, but is English your first language as it seems to be as difficult for you to master as M4/3s?
Pity you don’t understand americans..
I have Canon FD lenses that I can use for both systems, M43 is good for daylight and studio work when I use it, and who said I have a tremendous problem with it, you?
Once again you clearly show no understanding, just babbling from the mouth.
I’m in fashion, I do graphics, illustration and on my off time, some decent street photography and make decent pay. Seriously, are you really ready to be humbled? -or are you going to act like the other fools and insist the work I show isn’t mine? But enough about me, where is your work? Again, go fishing. I shown my photography. For a person that has only shown a poor skill in name calling, show me YOUR work.
I’m ready to be humbled….
Sell the cannon fd. Get some good glass with better contras etc. You have Fiji Olympus and clients so buy some Fiji or Olympus or other correct optics. The get back here cludge does not fit it if you have clients. You are doing yourself no favor using obsolete poor glass.
I have decent primes for both. And If I need anything more pertaining to a gig, I rent. I Happen to like the Canon 50mm and 28mm primes. It’s also about having a different look/feel to the pics.
No, I only pity you and your delusional state of mind.
I think you should now be well and truly humbled MrALLICANDOISTALKCRAP 24 /7 .
If M4/3s is good enough to win prizes in the World Photo Press Awards and is a format used by certain Magnum photographers (some of the world’s greatest) this alone underlines the FACT that your comments are misleading,,disingenuous and just plain retarded. You would appear to to be in a minority of one to think otherwise.
The World Press Photo Awards winners photograghs, using M4/3s, speak for themselves,, your hot shot work by contrast is invisible .
Fuji actually copied Olympus. Olympus’s first retro camera, the Pen E-P1, came out in 2009. The Fuji x100 didn’t come out until a year later.
It’s okay, the E-P1 doesn’t fit MrALLCAPS’ definition of “retro” (and neither does any other camera that came out before the x100), therefore he’s not wrong.
If you think the PEN looks like any of the Original PEN’s, aside from color, then you must’ve drank the kool-aid.
Digital PEN’s don’t even have view finders, aside from the clip on evfs! But hey, keep believing…
My point is that the PEN line was still a throwback to the PEN series camera. Via Wikipedia “The design of the camera is reminiscent of the Olympus PEN half frame film cameras and is marketed as the Olympus digital PEN. The model presented on 16 June 2009 was very similar to the Olympus PEN F.” Olympus was still a year ahead of Fuji when it came to releasing a retro looking camera.
I never claimed that the E-P1 looked like any of the original PEN models, I only stated that your definition of “retro” would preclude any camera that wasn’t made by Fuji. Looks like I was right 😀
Besides PEN, Fuji also tried to ride the bandwagon Olympus E-M5 started a few years ago. So much for the Fuji retro innovation MrALLWRONG was bragging about… lol.
This announcement is just enough to keep me interested, and not selling my OMD just yet…
I would like to see the OMD-EM1 II allready with all the goodies and then some. But I bet it’s some semi usefull ladies camera again. (ladies cameras are usually insult to the ladies as well)
Interesting
but still the same words .
Without new generation sensor , this 80th anniversary camera can’t go any further .
Back in the days of film, I heard no one ever say a new camera could not or should not be produced because there hadn’t been any recent advances in film chemistry. You are entitled to your viewpoint, but I think it absurd.
I don’t think it’s absurd – then the film itself was completely separate to the body, and you could ‘upgrade’ it, or get different looks by using different, sometimes improved, film stocks as and when they came out. The body was all about better ergonomics, etc.
With a digital camera the sensor is an inherent part of the design, and even the best sensors aren’t quite there yet in terms of matching film in, for example, the dynamic range and highlight retention of a good latitude colour negative film, and having true colour resolution at every ‘pixel’. In other words sensor tech is improving constantly and hasn’t plateau’d yet.
In fact, I wish manufacturers would start building great bodies with upgradeable sensors, at a cost of course. I understand Fuji might be looking at doing just that.
Its absurd, since the writer(s) own words prove that they cannot grasp the very fundamental purpose set out by the designers of these cameras. For this alone, there is reason to exclude them from any discussion of the subject. Its one thing, if someone can understand them, and has some criticism about the lack of success at reaching the design goal, but the words above are far short of this requirement…to the point of self parody.
Do longer words make you feel smarter? Small hint: check your apostrophes.
Don’t expect too much from a noob who knows nothing about camera.
Anniversary cameras have traditionally and almost always been outwardly special versions of existing cameras – with a special finish, a special engraving, or made with special materials. Stuff quite like the titanium E-M5II prototype shown at CP+. Imagine that camera with an “80 years anniversary” engraving, something like that, packaged in a box of precious wood lined in velvet, for twice or three times the price of the basic camera… I wouldn’t expect anything else.
Though extremely unlikely to happen, I’d like to see an 80th Anniversary, RX1 style 35mm fixed lens, full frame camera with 5 axis and all of the rest of the specs of the OM-D E-M5II. The experiment worked well for Sony and it eventually led to the A7 series. IMHO, a similar Olympus experiment could work equally as well, perhaps even better if the lens were of the quality of the 75mm 1,8 or 42 Nocticron…
That would be sick, I’d pre-order.
Me too…especially if it had that ’70’s vintage retro design. I think it would sell very well.
You mean a modern version of an Olympus 35RC, 35RD or 35SP ?
BLA BLA BLA….
voilà:
http://www.olympusamerica.com/oai_pressDetails.asp?pressNo=22
sorry admin 😉
So…. a full frame. No more complaints from anyone ; -)
It’s going to be a clear lens cap.
E-M5ii or E-M1 Monochome!
Irrelevant.
I’m guessing it will just be a om-d kit with a nice leather case in a collector’s box. Maybe pack it with the 25mm 1.8 as a kit. Maybe a special color or logo somewhere.
I’d like if they went a little further to make it unique, myself. Wouldn’t it be cool if they put the shutter speeds on the thumb dial and somehow had a physical aperture ring around the lens mount, so you could really get the analog feel?
I love it if they surprised us with an OM-D EM-1 Mark II
It gonna be a OMD EM-0 with body of titanium and kriptonite, water, fire and atomic fusion resistent, 70 mpx sensor with High resolution mode of 5000 Mpx and 15 axes IBIS. The pack will include a 1500mm f3 and a 3mm F0.1. The whole thing will cost just 170€ plus taxes. Mr Ogawa just called me from his bathroom to confirm it.
ugh, 170€?! It’s a small camera, why does it have to be so expensive!!!
I will take that 3mm f0.1 lens, though 😉
you forgot to mention 16K video.
Personally, I reckon an OM-D E-M1 Mark II with a killer new sensor (a couple stops better DR and ISO) a new, market-topping ‘Retina’ 4K EVF, and all the 5-axis and video upgrades from the E-M5 Mark II would be a fitting tribute… Oh, and a 25mm f/1 lens to go with it? Thank you in advance 😉
Ha, that would be amazing.
It is too early for an E-M1 replacement this year. Olympus needs to come out with a larger sensor fixed lens camera. This could us a 1″ sensor like the RX100 or a 43 sensor like the LX100.
TRIP-D
I dream about an Olympus version of Sony RX1: 50mm fixed lens (for no distortion), f: 1.8 (or even 2.0, stay relatively compact), Full frame sensor (for tele cropping), IBIS (no tripod), new generation 4k EVF (forget about OVF), Brenitzer mode (for in camera wide angle composiing).
To stay relatively compact, I’d want them to go 4/3. There are plenty of brands doing the 35mm thing. If they could do a m4/3 camera with a fixed, retracting 35mm equivalent f1.8 that would be compact enough when off to be considered pants pocketable, that would be awesome. I prefer EVFS, but an OVF could be cool on such a camera too.
Yeah that’s called the LX100. I’m with Alex on this one. I think Oly should make something for the price of the RX1 but yet can hang with the Leica M. Full Fame, Nifty 50mm f2 Zuiko fixed glass, rangefinder body with EVF, IBIS.
THAT would be an instant classic.
The E-M1 II with Samsung BSI sensor and 4.4mil. dot EVF from Epson?
4.4Mpix EVF with 1.8x magnification (0.9x for 35mm).
SSWSF
The special anniversary edition of the new E-M5 Mark II is fitted with a special supersonic wave filter, one that protects the camera’s sensor from spit.
This new feature is a response to the numerous reports of m4/3 sensors compromised by users at their highest moments of despair and self doubt, and by FF shooters, who, by pure instinct, upon first removing the lens from an OM-D series body, spit, having intuitively recognized the purity with which it undermines their cherished conceits.
The sensor cleaning system already takes care of the normal small spit. It takes dozen or so starting but finally it does remove it.
I assume some sort of external color and downgraded video capabilities in case Olympus becomes known for video to quote Olympus. Maybe take the E-P1 and put it in an E-M1 body.
It could be the rumored Trip-D, but we have to remember that this is the company which created the very weird O-Product, so maybe something like that.
Ha ha. Much more likely it’s just a special limited edition commemorative version of a current model with say titanium top and bottom plates, or something. They will attempt to sell it for $2000, because it comes in a special box.
How about a full-frame (135) OM-mount camera?! 😛
I mused about that a few weeks back. That could be a great camera.
What better way to celebrate an anniversary than a true digital edition of their most celebrated film camera line?
I’m sure they could have commissioned Sony to provide the FF guts of an A7 while Olympus provides the rest of the body. Also, They could have come up with a digital back for existing OM cameras as a nod to all those who still have a collection of legacy equipment.
1. Olympus arrest showed a titanium body in the show.
2. After 3 years, the latest E-M5 II still has the same IQ.
Add the above two facts together and get a titanium E-M5 2n Ti with the next generation sensor that will be used for all cameras for another 3 years.
A 20 MP sensor, improved IBIS and handheld 50MP hi res feature, and other refinements.
no ,oly still use this 16mpx for long long time(forever),
because they can not provide new generation image sensor .(LOL) ha ha ha
and EM5 III will operate 1/16 frame of one shooting ,mega-pixel ? i don’t know
and EM5 IV III will operate 1/32 frame of one shooting,(LOL)
Olympus don’t make sensors.
Same IQ = ISO 800 quality is improved and looks like ISO 200? That is two stop improvement.
16Mpix -> 20Mpix is nothing. You do not see anykind improvement anywhere. You need tou double the pixels per line to really see the difference. And even then you need to be making larger prints than 30×20.
I just hope it doesn’t pull resources away from “rethinking” the PEN lineup… 😉
How’s that coming along Mr. Ogawa? Any chance of weather sealing and an integrated EVF?
Yes Douglas: OMD.
That’s been the unsatisfactory answer from Oly so far. As an owner of both EM1 and PEN5, I don’t see why the Pen must be relegated to a lower position and can’t have the same build quality and performance. Form factor alone could be enough differentiation.
I wish Olympus would make a high end compact that has the new improved 5 axis stabilization, mic and headphone jacks, good continuous autofocus tracking, and a fast zoom or prime. A lot of us can do without 4k but improved dynamic range for 1080 would be a big help. Olympus should make 1080 as good as possible. Panasonic made too many compromises with the LX100 to protect the GH4. That camera could have been incredible- though Panasonic seems incapable of producing decent continuous autofocus. The EM1 is much better in this regard. Anyway, a small Olympus camera with something like a 25mm f1.8 lens or a fast zoom like what the LX100 has- that would be exciting.
Yeah, because the E-M5 II is just so massive compared with the LX100.
http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p794/An0nemu5/Forum/Screen%20Shot%202015-02-18%20at%2011.38.50_zps16t3mjxl.png
Put a similar m43 lens on it and yes, it is massive compared to the lx100.
The Panasonic 12-32mm – so no it wouldn’t be.
I’m sure you know the Panasonic lens is 24-75mm 1.8 to 2.7 and are just incapable of admitting when you’re wrong. The closest lenses are the 12-35 2.8 and the 12-40 2.8- both are massive compared to it.
I do know. If you want to get so pedantic on the specs that the aperture has to be a perfect match then I admit I am wrong. But I am still right from a practical point of view. The IBIS would counter some of the speed advantage excepting a handful of use cases.
My original point is still valid. The OP – probably you – is being silly with his/her requested specs and is basically asking for an E-M1 II in an LX100 package. The E-M5 II is very close in size and matches the capability list, the only part missing is the focus tracking. The lens speed? – well life’s a bitch and then you die.
Lets think for a minute. What did Olympus make 80 years ago? The answer, of course, is the Semi-Olympus. Which is honestly one of the best names ever.
http://www.olympus-global.com/en/corc/history/camera/popup/index_semioly.html
I’d love to see them update the Semi-Olympus for the digital era. Fixed lens folder with a Sony medium format sensor? Cool.
Yet, this is what I would take, where Air was heading:
http://www.olympus.co.jp/jp/fun/wallpaper/camera/dl.cfm?id=287&type_id=7
I still believe that Olympus could make a 35mm format camera next to m4/3 line without problems with the OM-mount.
As if Canon and Sony is claiming that 35mm is equivalent to medium format (what format is not, as it is just equivalent to pseudo-medium format using 1.36x larger sensor instead true medium format standard 6x7cm) then making one medium format kind a body with OM objectives would be with 50Mpix sensor not a killer or problem for m4/3, but very serious problem for Canon/Nikon/Sony.
Of course if someone could have sensor to sell that is 6x7cm by size, it would be good system with just 3 objectives alone.
To be fair, I’ve been saying that (135 is the new 120) for years. After all, there was a time when 120 was the new 4×5.
Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II with 67.5mm f/1.4
Improved 5-axis IBIS
Full-sensor readout for video (like the Sony RX10 and A7s)
Microphone and headphone jack
And why do you believe that E-M1 doesn’t already do full sensor readout?
And what is this such a demand for headphone jack, when camera own microphones are recording lower quality sound than external microphone, that has usually dual-headphone jacks, other for headphones and another to go camera.
EM1 doesn’t do full-sensor readout for video. Headphone jack is needed for audio monitoring.
Or they could release it with a 75mm f1.8