The same source who gave me the first E-M1 4K firmware upgrade rumor also shared another rumor: Olympus is working on two new Cine Prime lens. But he isn’t sure these will be shown at Photokina.
And he shared also some more 4K details:
The OMD E-M1 record in 24-25-30p 4K with IBIS without any problem for 29min limit. The good news is that, the 4K firmware from the beta test was well improved and it would be officially announced during the Photokina and released.
UPDATE: I still have sources saying they don’t know about 4K on the 2.0 firmware they tested or saw. So either this is a super secret Olympus addition or Olympus will decide to not add the 4K feature on the new firmware. This is one of the weirdest rumors I have ever worked on. I am glad this will be over in a few days 🙂
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also a new cine prime lens.
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I still have some doubts and cannot believe until it is officially announced……so we ll have to wait one week at least…..;)
29 min 4k would be exactly the same what the gh4 is doing with a 64gb card…..????
No, the GH4 records around 90mins on a 64GB card.
I thought there is a 29min limit in the EU? GH4 doesn’t have this?
It does… But it isn’t dependable from card. With 64GiB card you can then capture three 29min 59s clips, what is far more than enough for most. Only few would want to capture hours of footage but it is security breach for peoples privacy.
Yes, if it goes over 29′ 59″ it is treated as a video recorder and then subject to 5 to 12% duty
So many rumors flying around, it’s hard to know who to believe. If it’s true, it would be fantastic news. But I have my doubts…
Obviously this is not true and cannot be true.
I believe you are wrong as what you say can’t be true as you can’t be right as that would make you wrong.
indeed many people coming with other rumors or claim to know whats true or not true
The new firmware was already down-loadable(hidden link) from olympus website for a short while AND HAS NO, I REPEAT HAS NO 4K video recording.
Even stranger, it has no new video options at all.
If you want it on your camera, here is how to: http://lightsnowdev.blogspot.com/
I can’t image they will release another firmware named v2.0 with included 4k and high framerate options.
A new firmware, not THE new firmware as the NEW firmware will be released on 9/15.
If Olympus wanted to beta test different features with 2 different groups of beta tester, it’s plausible they issued 2 versions of the beta firmware and merge them ultimately.
Maybe Olympus intentionally creates a few different firmwares to see which group leaks the firmware update to the rumors site.
Answer: all of them.
was wondering this, thank you for answering
Who knows if this ‘leaked’ firmware is final or even useable at all; people, please don’t put this on your cameras as there’s no reason to know if it is stable or it will leave you with a $1400 brick (in which case there is zero chance you will be getting any help from Olympus).
Because people have tested it and it works. You can even go back to v1.4 is you want. Sure, its not recommended for everyone, but it does work, and does add some news features to the camera. Just no extra video recording possibilities.
It works? No… It has not brought any improvements that even sources claim who rejects 4k.
No improvement to EVF or peeking refresh rates or rates with art filters etc. Live composite from E-M10 and few new art filters from E-PL7 and possible tethering with USB (we need WIFI!) AND new keystoning for architecture photography in medium resolution for jpeg.
Hardly a 1.4 -> 2.0 update.
And if it is final, what does it do on servers already from where Olympus software downloads and inform user and why to pull it off when it was found?
FWIW, my E-M1 says it’s 2.0 firmware, not 1.5.
Yes, E-M1 but how about your Olympus Software on computer? Someone wondered that it said 1.5 and people told just to flash and see in camera it is 2.0.
Those that have put that ‘half baked’ version on their camera better hope they can reverse it (to 1.4) so they can get the real 2.0 version the official way. I admit that using an SD card for updating does sound appealing though.
That was a beta and not the final version. I’m just waiting until next week.
Do you play with yourself a lot? I do, but I have been told too much does no good…
You must be sore then….
(FT4) Panasonic GH4 will get 5-axis IBIS unlocked in next firware update..
(FT5) Panasonic GH4 will not get 5-axis IBIS unlocked in next firware update..
🙂
Ha. Ha. Ha.
(FT4) Panasonic 12-35mm firmware update to spawn sensor on rear element, shoots 6K”
Cine lenses? Nah. Seems very unlikely that Olympus becomes this video-centric overnight. It must be somebody’s wishful thinking. Not more than that.
You never know. Maybe Olympus looked at their market positions and decided the growth area will be video. Maybe the acclaimed reception for Panasonic’s 4k efforts opened their eyes. Unlike Panasonic, Olympus has no track record in video, only in medical imaging. But we don’t know what they could leverage out of their deal with Sony.
The click bait is strong recently. Site traffic is not great? Maybe if you cut down these click bait it may improve.
Worked with you.
#rekt
So you recommend me not visit this site. Gotcha.
As the last psychatrists writes: “If you read it it’s for you.”
Good thing this is a rumor site. It its called 43rumors guys.
The name of this site should be changed. 4Krumors is perhaps more appropriate.
I am now more interested in the E-M6.
I see your source is still sticking to his story. Not sure I would put his rumors past FT1 from here on.
As I understand, Admin has now had 3-4 different sources for 4k. One without laying hands on such camera, one with photos (that admin can’t release!) and one that tells like knows/has access to camera with it.
Or then there is single person that gathers dreams/rumors and another that cycles rumors that first one cycles too.
Since no one is speculating about lenses I’ll take the bait: I’d love to see geared, declicked, and fast 12mm t/1.7 and a 42.5mm t/1.7
interesting if true. Oly has never offered serious or very successful video of any kind. wonder what kind of codec they will use, and if this is more gimic driven than “quality video product” driven?
Duh! Really?
Look at this & think again. http://www.olympus-ims.com/en/hsv/
http://www.ix-cameras.com/company/about-us.php
I really have to wonder why the admin keeps trolling his readers.
He must be bored or very shallow or both….
Maybe there is a free one without 4k and one you can purchase with 4k
Unlike…. Paid firmware would be middle finger to customers.
Not at all! It is a good way to trigger feature improvements, which are otherwise not economic to implement. There are many customers, who would rather pay for functional (not bug fix) firmware updates, instead of buying a new camera. Especially, since it is not always the case that a new model is ergonomically better or equal (see Panasonic G2 -> G3, GH2 -> GH3, GF1 -> GF2)
It will be enough if they charge for a new Oly Studio software to use for tethering (as it used to be). Don’t go putting ideas into their heads! 😉
If Olympus is looking/developing cine lenses, then they are finally getting serious about video and it’s importance to their bottom line!
If Olympus would spend 50% more effort to video, they would get lots of money from it.
But the cinema objectives is a another case. Are they such or would those be the patented f/1.0 prototypes?
Olympus is an outstanding lens-maker–I’d say a core discipline.
The market for cameras has changed and continues to change so high end cine lenses could be a viable market for Olympus.
I hope…
http://i.imgur.com/jpUlqAB.jpg
Damn! 🙂
Okay…. So this is the one admin got? 4K Fine…. Or is this the beta?
Whoah…. Looks pretty trustworthy. And below are then frame rates?
Now what if would happen, is Olympus releases a 4K capable firmware but only a 30fps…..! It would be totally useless video update!
I don’t do film. Could someone explain why is frame rate so crucial. Thanks in advance
In short, because Google search it. You’re welcome.
So you don’t get nasty flickering effects when shooting scenes involving mains powered lights, because in different parts of the world the AC line frequency is different. 60hz in the US and Japan and and 50hz in civilized places like Europe Australia etc. Halve those line frequencies and you get the magic 25 and 30 fps frame rates.
Thanks, that explains 25 and 30. Some people claim for 24 also. Why?
24 fps is a long used standard for feature film.
When movies were on film and the movie theaters were on film. Today it is different story as we have digital projectors and we can project any framerate we want. Even provide movie with multiple framerates mixed together easily to fit the requirements.
At start there was no standard for framerate in capture or in playback, just rotate crank as you liked.
Now 48fps or 60fps or even 100fps is the thing. Still some people just stick on 24fps like it is the key element for good looking video, while it comes from totally different aspects than 24 frames per second.
Actually, there is a major reason why 24fps became the magic number: our brains translate it as the closest to mimicking real life. 30fps and 60fps will look the way video games do, on uncorrected monitors. These days some TVs have a special feature to “soften” in-between frames so that the eye can be duped again. Higher frame rates make our brains refuse to believe that they are real. It’s hyper-reality. It’s why that first “Hobbit” movie received so much criticism from a technical standpoint.
Wouldn’t changing the shutter speed fix the flickering ? (I know that would likely break the 180° shutter rule)
Here is my explanation, which may not be totally accurate, but this is what I see when shooting indie film stuff.
Most all movies (Transformers, The Usual Suspects, etc.) use 24p as a frame rate for the main part of the movie. So you know how that movie looks right, so keep that image in your head.
And now you have 60p that is used in things like newscast or game shows. The level of detail present in 60p is because as a subject moves through the frame, there are over 2.5 times the individual images captured, which prevents movement from looking fluid. This can be an issue when you are trying to keep the focus on the talent and there is a lot of periphery movement that has nothing to do with the story because it won’t blur with 60p and will be too sharp and distracting.
What are you talking about? 24, 25 and 30fps are the magic numbers this camera needs to sel like hotcakes. Faster than that is only useful for sports or slow motion work. For narrative work you want 24 ideally (USA/JAPAN) or 25 in PAL countries. Its great to have faster framerates, but no camera does 50/60fps in 4K in this price range.
Read again.
If Olympus adds 4k but only keeps 30fps, it is useless update for rest of the world than USA and Japan (mainly).
25/30fps is required, not 24. Nothing about 50/60fps.
Arrogant Yanks hate PAL and 25p/50p…….
Watch it, the nerds are going to get wet.
Very cool! Looks like SanDisk sees the need for speed/capacity storage even more now… In SD memory no less
I’ve always thought the future of photos maybe video and the coming of 4k kind of gets us there (I wish it was a hair more than 8mp, 12mp for example). The fact that you can get 8mp stills from video with good fidelity will make it possible for the casual shooter to never miss a moment. I believe Olympus might be 1 of 4 (Sony, Panasonic, and Samsung going that way also) seeing that as a likely trend. I myself almost got the GH4 for that very reason. The stills from 4k video are crazy sharp. PLEASE PLEASE be true so I can enjoy my e-m1 even more =p. I’ll admit as others state the quality is not likely to be great as seeing the screenshot is still using a poor codec.
That isn’t telling anything about codec what you see below. Unless you want something else than H.264 and that might be impossible.
Still I don’t believe, but there is only few days and lots of work to do so I can keep my dreamfully thinking somewhat under a control.
Well, I was thinking about frame grabs from 4K….and then I thought about wading through all that video to find the right frame!
Nahh, I’ll stick to 5 fps, works for most sports.
FT0. That is BS, not even a rumour. Stop this non-sense.
Agreed. This is click bait, pure and simple.
STOP IT!
And you know this for sure… how? Exactly?
Will the M1 get a silent shutter?
i heard that the NEXT Fw update would neither nclude 4K nor other video features. They did not say anything about future updates though 😉
It’s interesting Fujifilm has announced their own ‘Silver XT1 & the Fujinon XF 50-140mm F2.8 R LM OIS WR, but….
Both silver and black versions of the camera will get a firmware update in December, bringing the Silver version’s additional features and making some notable changes to camera operation and interface. With the update, direct AF area selection will be offered with the four-way controller, and items included in the camera’s Q menu will be customizable by the user. It also introduces video frame rate selection, making 50, 25, and 24 fps options available.
They’re actually pre-announcing a firmware update to come in December!
Now, would Olympus ever do this?
Fix interface that isn’t broken? No.
Add new frame rates for video? We see, unlikely but possible.