Preorders:
In US you can preorder the GM1 with lens at GM1 with kit lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
In Europe at Wex Germany, Amazon UK, Fotohanskeuzekamp, Cyberphoto Sweden and Wex UK.
Previews and tests:
Dpreview , Cameras.reviewed, Hybridcams (french), m43.eu,
The 12-32mm lens has the best MTF graph of all kit zoom: Panasonic.net
Press text:
Dpreview, Focus Numerique (french), Quesabesde (Spanish), DhaRha (english), SystemKameraforum (German), Sansmirror.
Images:
ISO test at Focus Numerique.
Video:
Draadbreuk (dutch), Videorama (spanish), Commercial (panasonic)
IMPORTANT: We are having some issues on the commnt system we are trying to solve (it’s an issue with WordPress Aksimet and doens’t depend from us). Comment system has been deactivated for now! UPDATE: worldwide issue with wordpress: https://twitter.com/DoRoyalHost/status/390699640233795584
UPDATE: Also the 15mm f/1.7 lens got announced:
Digital Interchangeable Lens for Micro Four Thirds System
* Details of the product specifications, the date of release and the price are under study.
** For a body of digital interchangeable lens camera, as of October 17, 2013, according to research by Panasonic.
*** Released on October 17, 2013.
• The inserted image is that of an engineering mock-up and the final design of the product may differ from this.
• LEICA is a registered trademark of Leica Microsystems IR GmbH.
• SUMMILUX, ELMARIT and NOCTICRON are registered trademarks of Leica Camera AG.
And this is the new lens roadmap: The 150mm prime tele has been taken off the roadmap! And the 35-100mm lens is “non-X”
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Please remove the rolling advertisements…they ruin the experience.
anyone have any price/release info for the nocticron 42.5? Been waiting too long!
Early 2014 release. No price yet.
I have AdBlock plus and do not see any rolling ads .Though when I surf on my Ipad I do see it and it is pretty annoying
Well they are gone now with this new system…
Wait, do we finally have a new comment system?
Any word on pricing for the new lenses (15mm f1.7 and previously announced 42.5mm f1.2)?
Why does 15/1.7 have an aperture ring? In which scenario do we use?
Just taking a guess here, but maybe when you need to change the aperture.
Maybe..but … Isn’t it faster or more convenient by using dail ring on camera body as ususal?
Not on the GM1, it seems.
Panasonic used this system before. It’s an “aperture by wire” mechanism so you can change the aperture in both ways.
I really hope it is not by wire.
Anyone who came of age in the era of film cameras understands that having the aperture ring on the lens is actually more convenient than trying to control everything with your right hand. God (or evolution) gave us two hands, but camera designers seem bent on ignoring the left.
I wish ALL m43 lenses had aperture rings.
So… no dial to change exposure values, just the “Horrible Vertical Spinny Wheel of Naffness” (TM) favoured by Olympus on their EP-L / EP-M models. Shame. The clicky dial Panasonic have used on the G / GF cameras is actually really nice to use and takes up little space.
Think this is a design mistake – most of us change apeture/shutter speed more often than we change AF method, yet the latter gets it’s own dial whilst the more useful functions are relegated to a nasty vertical wheely thing.
The XF1 which this is based heavily on it would seem had both (including click to switch modes). Shame this only has the one wheel. At least with the 15mm you’ll gain direct aperture control. On the XF1 you used the ‘Horrible Spinny Wheel of Naffness’ for manual focus, this does it via touch screen for the 12-32mm… Which has got to be a terrible idea surely?
Every camera involves compromise. Some people will love this camera, some won’t. If it doesn’t do it for you, don’t buy it. But don’t criticize it because it’s aimed at a different market segment than you, or because it’s design goals are different than what you want.
If you want dials and buttons, there are lots of other cameras to choose from. If you want the ultimate compact m43, accept the trade-offs that come with it.
There are m43 owners who complain the Oly EP-L bodies are too big. This camera is aimed at them.
30/1.7???
Who need this? and it seems like very ugly design too.
Are you serious? Never used a 30mm or 28mm? This looks like a tasty (but bigger) replacement for the 14mm f2.5.
Exactly. If this lens turns out to be good, I might consider ditching my 14mm and 20mm and going for this 15mm and the 25mm instead.
The 150mm story is a sad one, albeit predictable (isn’t it the dictionary definition for tragedy?). This should teach Panasonic a lesson: do not brag about products until they are actually ready. However, they don’t seem to learn (see the 15/1.7 and Oly’s patent for a 15/2, for example).
BTW admin, congratulations on the new commenting system. Should scare off most of the trolls.
The upcoming Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 effectively killed the Panasonic 150mm prime lens.
I like the bare silver color.
The aperture ring protrudes too much from the body.
What’s happened, this looks dreadful, seems to have lost it’s friendliness.
nice name.
Please call me when this camera gets a VF! 🙂
For those of you looking for the handgrip mentioned in the press release, took me some time to locate this:
http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/gm1/optional_accessories.html#handgrip
Disqus … yay? It’s not bad, but it’s not the best either. I hope it keeps the trolls out.
Too bad my comment about the lenses is lost.
In a nutshell, I hope Panasonic isn’t neglecting “normal” lenses over this “system in a system”.
They keep doubling, tripling, quadrupling, quintupling standard zooms like there is nothing more to release.
What they need to do is to have ONE pancake zoom for tiny cameras (14-42 PZ was fine), and sell bigger cameras with better lenses in kits, like the choice of 12-35/2.8 or 14-140/3.5-5.6, at realistic prices (not $1300 for the 12-35, $400 in a kit would be fine – see kit price of bigger Sony DT 16-50). Otherwise they cannot even compete with RX10 now, and even RX100 with bright (at wide end) lens.
Aperture ring on the 15/1.7 – awesome (if Oly bodies support it too).
Yeah, that is nice. Maybe it will catch on with other lenses. It’s just a nice extra control to have…
The aperture ring is manual, so yes of course it will work. And from the picture you can see a red ‘A’ for automatic next to f1.7. So i imagine in ‘A’ mode it will work to the 4/3 standard via the camera like every other lens.
Totally awesome… it didn’t even register with me until later. Much better than on-body dials, I think. I expect there will be a firmware upgrade on some bodies to accommodate this?
What a pity, no viewfinder and no dials for aperture and shutter speed. And a pointless price, too.
This is going straight to the metronerd gadget collectors.
I’m not sure — it looks like an improvement on the GF line to me. Compact body but more external controls. If I was choosing between this or the GF6, I’d go with this.
Tougher choice between the GM-1 and the E-PM2. With the Olympus you have the option of an EVF plus IBIS. But the GM-1 would give you a lot more controls and a built in flash.
15mm f1.7 will be a great lens if it will have less barrel distortion in RAW mode than the Oly 17mm f1.8 (around 4.5% barrel distortion!). Otherwise the 30mm equivalent on FF is not as appealing as the 34mm one.
The 45.2mm f1.2 is more tempting for me however I hope it’s not 2-3 time more expensive than the Oly 45mm f1.8 just because of OIS and Leica branding (the optiqual quality will be less than 50% better than the Oly)
Who cares about distortion in single percentage points – it is easily corrected digitally and reduces sharpness only by the percentage of distortion – 4.5% sharpness reduction is tiny and the lens with distortion can be actually made sharper from the beginning. It is not film era to require perfectly rectangular images. Better to worry about things that are not easily corrected – longitudinal CA, coma, even vignetting after distortion correction (which cannot be corrected without in effect rising ISO – and noise – in the corners).
Yeah, distortion is easily corrected digitally but you lose parts of the image due to cropping. Sometimes it can ruin your composition!
no it can’t as the live preview is already corrected.
And you know what the optical quality will be how?
Do you think the Pana lens will be a great leap forward and offer 2-3 times better optiqual quality? This is not possible if they want to keep prices at MFT levels. Logic!
35-100mm mockup from DCWatch
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/619/861/039.jpg
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20131017_619861.html
Obviously I would’ve loved at least 1 dial & an EVF… but I can’t feel it in my hands to make a final decision…
That’s a shame about the 150/2.8 as I guess it would have been stabilised and the Oly 40-150 isn’t. Maybe another indicator that Panasonic are going IBIS all the way now. The 15/1.7 is a nice addition to the line up, although the aperture ring seems unnecessarily prominent, it will make a very nice walk-around street lens.
If priced right, this Pana 15/2.7 will make 14/2.5, 17/1.8 and even 20/1.7 totally unnecessary.
Although I guess for a heavy prime user 12/2, 17/1.8 and 25/1.4 are better as a set and don’t leave 15/1.7 any space.
Chrome translate doesn’t work with Disqus and this is a serious problem for me and my bad english. 🙁
Does anyone know how to translate comments?
I answer by myself: it’s possible to copy comments and paste them into the google translate page but it isn’t so comfortable
I am very interested in that 15mm 1.7 – it would complement my 25mm 1.4 perfectly. Hope they will release it soon.
I like it in white/cream…especially with the black grip and black lens…but with no VF….Sadly it is not for me. 🙁
Way to go Panny! U FAILED AGAIN!
This one is aimed at the RX100 – which I’m not sure people will rally look at like that – and nonetheless, it has the same build quality as the GX7, it even has AFS/AFC/MF, C1, C2 and Fn buttons and even the same sensor as the GX7. There is no way it would be cheap, so buy a GF or a GX1 and move on.
I’m not sure if this experience will succeed, but it’s a intriguing camera, the better well resolved design of a Panasonic camera and it should have a great appeal in Asia.
That 15mm f1.7 reminds me modern Leica M lenses, nicely done. Does that aperture ring work on Olympus bodies as well?
And the AF/MF switch!? I assume there will be a firmware upgrade.
The 150mm lens was very big for m4/3 so no great loss. I would much rather see a small 100mm lens ie effective 200mm lens for m4/3 as that lens was relatively small in FF after which the sizes tend to explode. For now I will have to suffice using adapter to my Nikon 100mm lenses to use with my GF1.
Clickable f-stops!
While some previews have cried that the GM1 has only one lens to fit it the new zoom that is far from the truth as the 14mm/2.5, 20/1.7, 45/1.7, fit just fine.
Pany has this 15mm/1.7 coming early 14, as well as 35-100 and 14-140 to hang the camera on ie hold the lens not the camera to use.
Don’t forget the Oly 15mm Body Cap Lens!
Now THAT would make it truly “pocketable”… for those fixated on such things.
It won’t sit on the level, though, will it since the lenses will be taller than the body?
That 15/1.7 makes me wonder if there will be a Leica version of the GM1 after all.
Say hello to the D-Lux 7, only $1399?
The GX7 paired with the new 42.5/1.2 would be another obvious candidate for the red dot (presumably as a Digilux). Don’t even want to think about the price tag on that one.
Yeah….not surpeising the Panasonic made an announcement today that they will be making some more expensive interchangeable cameras for Leica….
Actually, the announcement was yesterday:
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/kyodo-news-international/131016/panasonic-mulling-providing-leica-high-end-digital-cam
Article says Panasonic might provide cameras for Leica in the 200,000 yen price range – about $2000 USD.
Interesting that we are told Panasonic is considering it. Surely Leica has something to say in the matter?
> 150/2.8につきましては,商品內容と開發時期を見直しさせて頂きます.
I think it says:
As for the 150/2.8, its specifications and development schedule are under review.
how strange . who is going to pay big bucks for a 30mm FOV ? seems like there is a new flood of odd previously-not -so common of focal lengths ( 30mm , 60mm, 64mm, 150mm ..)
Harold
Really? It seems thousands are spending a lot of money on lenses of all sorts these days.
The price whiners notwithstanding.
I’d love to see the 150mm/2.8.
Looks like the big Panasonic/Olympus battle has finally reached a new height. I guess Panasonic is afraid they can’t compete with Olympus’ 40-150mm/2.8 zoom, but they may think their 15mm/1,7 surpasses Oly’s 17mm/1.8.
Olympus seems to have trumped Panasonics GH3 with the E-M1, at least for photographers, so Panasonic tries to beat the E-M1/M5 as well as the E-P5 by offering their attractively equipped GX-7 at a good price.
This also seems to imply that Olympus appears to want to excel by offering a m4/3 pro configuration, while Panasonic appears to have changed directions to support a Leica/Pana alliance with high quality and fast mid-range lenses.
All good for us!
The difference between a 30mm and the classic 28mm FOV is negligible. Should be a nice upgrade to the 14 f2.5. Both this and the upcoming 42.5mm will have an aperture ring. This is a nice feature since no m43 body has an lcd screen on top. I usually roll with the rear LCD off to conserve battery life, so it’s nice to be able to know what aperture you are in at any given time without having to look through the viewfinder.
You are right…28mm or 30mm is almost the same thing. The same with the 34mm vs 35mm. I just hope this will be better than the Oly 17mm f1.8 from an optical point of view. It will be a great lens for indoor snapshots when you can’t use the flash!
28-30mmFF is my favorite focal length, actually. I’d pay for it, except I’m quite happy with the 14/2.5. If it dies, I’d certainly splurge for the one-stop gain in speed.
Is it possible to see a red dot version of GM1 + 15mm + 42.5mm kit? that makes about 28mm and 85MM FoV kit.
if you have too much money you better donate it to the Red Cross.
Yet another focal length that’s been covered by at least 8 different lenses. It’s time panny takes a look at its ultrawide offering, because right now it’s really not brilliant ( for video).
I’m actually pretty excited about the 15mm. After getting the really nice 25mm Leica f/1.4 in a bundle with an E-M5, I’m no longer as interested in my trusty old 20mm for anything other than its compact size. The 15mm is a bit bigger, but since the E-M5 is a bit bulkier anyway, if it’s got a quieter focusing motor the wider angle would make it more or less perfect for a single-lens walkaround to keep on the camera, and it’s enough different from the 25mm to be worth having both.
The super-compact 12-32 wouldn’t be a bad vacation lens, either, of course; I was considering the mini power zoom for that purpose, but if the optical quality is better on this one I’d gladly sacrifice a bit of zoom and the motorized zoom for the wider angle and better glass.
All around surprisingly exciting lens announcements for me, even if I never get the camera.
I REALLY want to know the price on the damn Nocticron, though! I’ve wanted that lens since before it was even rumored to exist.
I was kind of hoping for a new 150-300 lens to match the newer Lumix G Vario lenses (14-42 II and 45-150). Would have made for a nice (and small) 3 lens set for my G5.
Oh well…