There is a brand new price drop on the GH3. You can now grab it for $998 at Samys (with free extras) and at Amazon (via Samys). The new E-M1 better be good (and not too pricey) to beat that deal!
Also the G5 got discounted and you can get it with lens for $399 at Amazon US (Click here). And the Nokotn 42,5mm lens is for the first time in Stock at BHphoto (Click here).
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Just like clockwork: PANNY FIRE SALE!
Was not unexpected.
Yeah, not unexpected at all.
Wait for GH4. It seems Panasonic can only make it good the second time, GH2, GH4, GH6.
Erm except there will NEVER be a GH4… GH5 however…
Like clockwork, a oly fantard on the first comment.
Hey where were you when the ep5 got discounted before release? Heck were have you been all this week?!
Yeah true loser, where were you when many so called oly ‘fantards’ actually predicted that one?
Wahwahwah poor panasonic is being attacked wahwah, like clockwork indeed
Guys, please! Let no get all DPR on here. Both Olympus and Panasonic do great products and both reduce their prices. It’s win win for everyone.
(same anonymous as above)
Totally agree, both make great products, and I own, use and appreciate products from both.
I just get sick of this True Homer dude who is always complaining about how unfairly Panasonic gets treated and about ‘fanboys’ or whatever he calls it today, meanwhile ignoring that trolling happens in about every thread, and mostly by people who aren’t going to buy either Olympus or Panasonic products. There are actually some threads about Panasonic cameras with only one comment, from him, about all the complaints that aren’t there.
So you are preaching to the choir.
the truth bothers you and thats all. Theres a lot more offensive things being said on this forum, if what i say bothers you so much change site, or better yet dont be a oly fantard
You take every opportunity to whine about whatever Olympus does, just see your own posts below, while praising everything Panasonic does. You are in totally no position to call anyone a fanboy, true loser.
EM-1 1500$ -_- DOA MAN!
GX7 side effect?
more likely new model inbound
The GH3 is barely a year old though. Panasonic releasing a new GH model now would be as good as admitting that the GH3 was never really finished to the standard they wanted. GH cameras usually have a two year product cycle.
Is it EM-1 competition or EM-5? Does the GH3 have PDAF and the ability to focus any FT lens?
The GH3 may be a great camera, but I don’t think it is a competitor to EM-1 (if the rumored specs reveal to be true).
ofcourse the GH3 is a competing camera, even when it lacks in some areas. But it will prob stay superior in video. If not, then it would have a real problem against the E-M1.
What is it with Olympus and video? Why can’t they get it as good as Panasonic? Or is it as good but everyone prefers the Panny’s?
I don’t do a lot of video, but everyone agrees that Panny is awesome, I’ve read some good things about the E-M5, which I have, but it doesn’t have the traction of the GHx series in the ‘pro’ video world, what’s it missing?
Genuine questions, honest.
1. advanced codecs
2. raw video out on hdmi
3. any framerates other then 30p/60i (much of the world uses 25p/50i)
4. (related to 1) higher bitrates to prevent compression artifacts
Those are the basic things that are missing, beyond that, people like the output of especially the GH2 sensor a lot for video, I’ve never looked that closely as I’m not really into video.
Does everyone have 43 lens? Does everyone care what PDAF does? For the 99% of consumers, they are both expensive highend mirrorless camera that takes pictures and videos. Actually, 99% don’t know what M43 or mirrorless is…
Then thank you for confirming that GH3 is a competitor to EM5, not EM1 (since EM1 is supposed to be mainly for those who have FT lenses).
Panasonic’s competitor to EM1 will have PDAF. I’m affraid it’s not GH3 (even if the GH3 is a really nice camera).
no, GH is not Oly PRO-cam competitor ,
GH ‘s competitor such as Canon,Sony,BMC
E-M5 doesn’t have a large enough buffer or battery to match up well with the GH3. These are areas the E-M1 would likely improve over the E-M5.
GH3 does not have IBIS or shooting speed to compete even with E-M5 then. 😉
Well, if E-M1 turns out to be a sports camera it is rumored to be, neither GH3 nor E-M5 are really its competitors. If you don’t need high-end sports capabilities, or E-M1’s tracking proves to be weak, then both are fine as they are.
Where is it written that EM-1 is aimed specifically and only specifically at the 43 market?
Most people do not realize what PDAF does. As soon as they do, they will care about it.
To name just a few areas where PDAF is a great feature for MFT lenses as well:
– Continuos -AF
– Small moving objects (read birds, kids, …)
– Focus confirmation with manual lenses
– No AF “pumping“ in video!
Yep, for me, the E-M1 is all about the PDAF. If it’s great, I’ll be looking at that and a new native 40-150ish PDAF optimised lens for sports photography. Otherwise, I’ll move to a DSLR system for awhile. and keep my m43 for travel and casual use. Should have done that a few years ago, lots of missed rugby games in the meantime!
No, few people have the high grade 43 or any 43 lens at all. However, it is the image that is important, to have something that is very high-end as the flagship helps to sell all lower models. The thousands of Canon DSLR owners probably have a zoom all the time on a fairly ordinary model, but have chosen Canon because of the image, and being in a brand that has higher models all the way to a $60000 that no amateur would buy. The E-M1 will help sell a lot more of the other Olympus cameras, especially since they all have the same IQ, and especially help to sell other OMD cameras like the E-M5 and the next E-M6 etc.
Really high graded FT lenses are still incredibly expensive so there is absolutely no reason to buy them. Hence the E-M1 makes sense just for one who already owns such lenses. Normal FT lenses simply doesn’t worth to keep.
…And what about used 4/3 lenses?! I paid “only” 600 euro for a used (but perfect) 50-200 f/2.8-3.5 SWD.
At the moment there isn’t a lens like this for m4/3.
And there probably never will be.
Er, actually there’s a perfectly good reason to buy them: they’re worth the money.
Glass might be worthy its price. But not if price of entry into the 43 fold is a $1500 E-M1.
Lets just take a very common, and merely ‘high grade’ lens, the 50-200 (SWD or not)..
There exists a lens in the Canon EF system that covers a 4x range that on a full frame body will be very similar, the 100-400L. That lens costs $1499 at B&H at the moment, and you’ll still have to buy a body for using it on, a 6D? Thats another $1500 at least.
And it still won’t let you use your m4/3 lenses.
SHG line is so expensive because its Olympus at his best,they designed it to be without competition (one of the strategies within the FT lens philosophies, the other being equal to competition but smaller)
You don’t need FT lenses to make use of the new sensor.
PDAF – or more likely the combination with contrast AF that Olympus is using here – is not limited to FT lenses.
Stabilization and elimination of focus pumping alone are two great video features the GH3 lacks. If Oly is also updating their video codecs, the GH3 will have a hard time keeping it’s position.
We are talking about the “professionalism” of these cameras and/or their users, right?
Well, then sorry, but imho whoever “professional” uses autofocus while making a video is clearly over his head anyway with the GH3… Thus talking about a “pumping focus” as a problem of the GH3 is not really a valid point in a discussion about video qualities of a camera. Same goes for the stabilizer – a serious camera user would rather go for even a cheap(ish) steadycam system rather than relying on ANY kind of OIS or IBIS. Or uses a tripod anyway. 😉 And for video, an OIS is substantially better than an IBIS, especially if it comes to longer focal length. (IBIS only activates when you release the shutter, while OIS is always active when turned on.)
And if video quality (and winning market shares over Panasonic on that field) is really a question of rewriting codecs for an Olympus, I wonder why they care about hardware upgrades in form of new cameras every 8 months instead…
Have you ever taken any pics or shot a video using an e-m5? If yes, have you compared it with a video shot from a gh2 using a glidecam?
Luckily I have (had) a G1, GH1, GH2, GX1, OM-D and GH3, since I can sell them used quite well in my country, and the difference was covered as business expense. So yes, it comes from experience (I have a FlyCam Nano, ordered from India) to say that I would never use an Olympus camera over a GHx from Pana if it comes to movies. But it has not much to do with any glidecam performance, rather with video and audio codecs, bitrates and whatnot – and above all, the ability to hack (for instance get rid of the 30 min. shutdown in Europe) the hell of the best possibilites out of the camera. And that is not and probably will never be available with the Olympus machines due to their updating procedure (Firmware implemented in upgrade software rather than a file on a card).
Oh, and before I forget: with the versatile pull&screw screens of the G and GX cameras from Pana, there is never a need of an extra LCD. Because most of the time having only a tilting screen (like with the OM-D) is simply not enough while making movies.
sorry, I meant of course, the pull&screw screens of the G and >>GH<< cameras from Panasonic… 😉
IMHO the 5-axis ibis is amazing and useful for spontaneous shooting and definitely better than ois. But when it comes to codecs the hacked gh2 is still my workhorse.
I fear that oly is not going to improve video specs in the near future. I’ve given up on hoping for a designated firmware for my omd :(.
That’s true. This E-M1 is only for the 43 lens owners. Nobody else will buy 43 lenses just to use this expensive camera and carry the weight when they can for the same money get FF (which will keep coming down in price). This E-M1 will be like the E-P5, very niche and therefore remain expensive and updated infrequently. Wait for the next OMD, the true upgrade for E-M5, for the mass market product that Olympus will push as the main game later.
Matt, what if Olympus state that they now have a full range of high quality zooms for the m4/3, but they are the existing SHG f2.0 4/3 lens (which everyone acknowledges are excellent glass), and you just need a suitable m4/3 body to take advantage of this fact. That’s where they are heading to, and the logic is sound as long as the focus issues are addressed, which the rumours seem to indicate….
It would be very hard to get a f2.0 zoom for m4/3 much smaller that the current 4/3 units, considering the sensor size is the same. A smaller maximum aperture would enable it.
Idiotic comment, Matt. This camera and an SHG lens will still be far smaller than a high-grade FF camera and equivalent FOV lens. The D600, say, is pretty small, but still larger than the E-M1 appears to be, and a lens like the 35-100 is about 1/3 the size of a 70-200 f/2.8. People who value a lightweight, versatile travel kit will still see the value of this compared to FF.
People who think a bigger camera is always better are probably trying to compensate for small equipment elsewhere. 🙂
Right. ..the em1s competitors are the 1dx and the d4…right? Ppffffffhahahahaha
Who said that? E-M1 competitors are E-X series and other native FT cameras… That’s why EM-1 needs a really good EVF and full FT lenses compatibility.
In a number of things yes, those are the direct competition.
Should I buy an E-M1 and keep using the rather nice 50-200?
Should I buy a 1Dx and Canons 100-400L?
Should I buy a D4 and eh? which lens? iirc there is a 70-400 now, which would be a little bit better, the 50mm (4/3) or 100mm (135) at the short end is often just a bit too long for my taste, while I do need the 400mm (equiv)
Should I buy the D7100 with the 70-200 and make use of the extra crop feature it has?
This to satisfy my need for a long telezoom with good C-AF performance.
Of those 4, the 2nd and 3rd actually have demonstrated all-weather capability, whereas the 4th doesn’t, and the 1st comes from a company whoms definition for ‘weather sealing’ is what dpreview and others use, and that unlike Nikon and Canon actually publishes what weather sealing specification they comply with. Living in a country that sees a lot of rain, this is a rather important factor for me.
Obviously, this is rather related to my needs, and doesn’t apply to everyone, but I bet there are more then a few people having to make a similar choice.
Oh, and I’ll leave it to you to figure out why the GH3 does not feature in this list, the reason however is the same as why the E-M5 doesn’t feature in that list either.
are you kidding??? thats ridiculous borderline delirious. Are you actually sugesting that the em1 sensor holds a candle to the 1dx or d4?? are you suggesting the em1 is anywhere NEAR as close as rugged as any of those two???? Do you really believe the em1 will be as fast in any regard???
amazing…
Did I actually say any of those things? Oh wait, I didn’t, and what you just posted is a typical strawman argument.
See, if the rumor that it can focus 4/3 lenses as fast as 4/3 cameras, it will be fast enough for my applications. If IQ is the same or better then what an E-M5 offers, it will be good enough for my applications. If it is somewhat more rugged then the E-M5, that would suit me fine. If it is as rugged as the E-3 I also happen to own, thats even better, but we don’t know that.
Being competitive has to do with suitability for an application versus cost, and not with having the best specs in the world.
And eh, where is that well published GH3 weather sealing spec that you have been going on about and that Google can’t seem to find, true loser?
Nice!
I like to see some strong competition. Hopefully this will put some strong pressure on Olympus. I have a G5 (bought used 4 months ago for $300 USD) currently but will get the e-m5 or gx7 depending on which falls into my price range the quickest.
seems the only reason to buy an E-M1 will be pdaf.
.. and watersealing … and size … and 5 axis IBIS
GH3 is weathersealed too…but just for 5 axis IBIS i prefer buy an E-M5 ,E-P5 or E-M1.
Price comparison between GH3 and E-M1 have same sense of comparaison price between… E-M5 and GH4 hahaha!
Olympus has the best sealing though.
Smaller body for outdated, un-used FT Lenses.
If you read thru the forums, everyone is talking about buying or already having FT lenses.
NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT BUYING NEW ONES.
HAHAHAHA!!! It’s unbelievable!! Olympus is about to be in a lot of hurt!
Who’s going to buy the EM-1 with new/old FT lenses? NO ONE, because if anyone buys a EM-1, they already have FT lenses.
The EM-1 is a Failure out the gate… Watch. They were better off making another EM-5, not this Frankenstein Abomination.
The GX7 will sell well out the gate, while the EM-1 just won’t sell and drop down in rankings everywhere.
Mr ALL CAPS
“If you read thru the forums, everyone is talking about buying or already having FT lenses.
NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT BUYING NEW ONES.”
Didn’t you just contradict yourself?
For pure stupidity amongst trolls you take the crown.
People who care about photography don’t care about the ranking of their cameras, they care about what pictures they can take and what results they will get.
With regards to weather sealing, the E-M5 complies with IEC 529 IPX1, just like the E-3 and E-5 before it, this is published information from Olympus. Somehow, there doesn’t seem to be such a thing published for the GH3 by Panasonic, coincidence? When asking them, they suggest it complies with IEC 529 IPX2, but good luck getting that in writing from them, let alone making a warranty claim based on that.
True. However, shooting in snow and ice last winter in Russia with always AT LEAST minus 20 °C and both weather-sealing and battery power (literally: HOURS) keeping up far far beyond my expectations should mean a little compensation for the lack of official certificates – well, at least for me 😉
But I dare everyone to test this the next winter by him/herself.
Gh3 is ipx3, well documented. Troll harder
true homer = troll harder = tray horsedung
So you found evidence otherwise? Or just another empty insult from yet another oly fantard?
If it was so well documented by panasonic, you’d expect google to find it somewhere in its top 50 results for ‘panasonic gh3 iec 529’. It doesn’t.
For now its totally up to you to prove your claim.
Oh, well documented? Where? On request Panasonic says ipx2 but wasn’t willing to give this in writing. Please point us to the manual or official documentation regarding this.
You can read a bit more about some of the clear differences in actual sealing here:
http://www.mu-43.com/f43/gh3-weather-seal-what-does-mean-44871/index3.html
And eh, a thread on dptrollfood? Lol
Wow! You presume too much. I am a MFT enthusiast but miss the ability to take photos of birds in flight. I wouldn’t buy a FT-only camera, but am really interested in buying the EM1 and a few FT lenses for birding. That’s the beauty of the evolving Olympus MFT/FT system … flexibility with everything now interchangeable among viewfinders, camera bodies, and MFT and FT lenses. Go big, go small, go LCD, go viewfinder, go CDAF, go PDAF … it’s all there.
“Olympus has the best sealing though.”
A complete and utter fabrication. There was a thread about this on DPR many moons ago. Panasonic have stated the level of protection on the GH3 is IPX3. Olympus have documented the E-M5 to be rated to IPX2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
Thanks. That link is helpful
Except for the fact that the spec sheet of the e-m5 at the end of the manual says ipx1, and the one for the gh3 says nothing about it at all.
To be specific, page 116 of the english language of the e-m5 explicitly states ipx1. The wikipage is usefull, the dptrollfood thread is clearly worng.
Yes. It’s sad to see people compare price first, then specs, to declare which camera is the best one.
Of course price counts when it comes to actually “purchase” the product. But the fact that one can’t buy the product at a certain price doesn’t make this product bad… The GH3 isn’t superior to the forcomming EM1 because its $500 cheaper (suposedly), otherwise any toy camera is superior…
and a better viewfinder and freeze proof.
..and the improved ergonomics and better controls and increased sturdiness and built-in advanced HDR and improved WiFi and..
Over the gh3? Nope nope and…nope
Amazing how you know that about a camera that hasn’t been announced yet, mr true loser…
Don’t you guys get that the em1 will be the fisrt micro 4/3 system with iso 100 expandable and synch at 320,and a portrait grip wih ac. I have been waiting for this since the format came out. I will be able to shoot in the studio with live view. I shoot high volume seniors.
That’s huge and nobody is noticing it.
“High volume seniors”??? Er, screaming grannies? Immensely obese old people?
Just wonderin’ 🙂
I shoot nud1ties & similar amenities in sorts of studio settings, nothing artistic but just helping out a friend.. and LiveView does help me as well.
I shoot high school seniors. You were joking right?
Me? I do really shot soft pørn, as a hobby (a tongue in cheek style, only with amateurs, for Web publishing). I am a gadget freak and love m43, it works perfectly for the job (no DOF issues, light and blazing fast, accurate AF). We cater / are based in Scandinavia and we are pretty well-known among the aficionados. Looking forward the EM1 to use some old 43 lenses I still have!
E-P5 syncs at 1/320 sec too i read.
Nope. Gx7 was the first with 320 sync and iso 125
GX7 syncs 1/320 with build in flash but 1/250 with flash on hotshoe.
How does that work? Link?
When is the GH5 supposed to be coming out? Specs are nowhere to be found. 🙁
years from now, no even close to having GH4 OR GH5 whatever name they pick.
GH series life cycle is about 2 years, unless they make the GH3 MKII with the new custom made Panasonic sensor – which may be optimized for video – there is no reason to believe you will see a GH series camera before the end of 2014.
Likely to see a few more GF cams before the next GH.
Is it possible to subscribe to Mirrorless Rumors WITHOUT the comments? Admin: please consider adding this option.
Just dont click on the comments link……….
Even better, without the articles. The comments are FAR more entertaining!
An option to read comments before the article will be perfect!
Love it Ranger9. Best comment I have ever read on here.
Like that you will always agree with yourself…I think myself it always interesting to talk with a lot of people,that the way to improve humanity.
The clockwork price drop is probably related to the imminent shipping of the BlackMagic PCC (Pocket Cinema Camera) @ $1,000. Pannys are mostly valued for their video, whereas Oly (so far) is not. However, the PCC changes the game entirely with direct support for Apple Pro-Res and, eventually via firmware, video RAW, not to mention the quality of their video codecs. So if there’s a marketing shakeup to Panny’s GH3, I find it much more likely due to BlackMagic PCC (than to Olympus’ E-M1).
But why would that be from Panasonic? Is it a real price drop on every GH3 now in stock? Or is it just a reseller that put a discount on that specific model on is own?
It may be risky to draw conclusion on just a discount…
True, but sometimes the forward-thinking store is also just a lead indicator for official channels.
Occam, 100% I agree with you, olympus with video of the blackmagic, this is best seller
Agree 100%, but BlackMagic doesn’t have IBIS, and Olympus doesn’t have video expertise. I was thinking its possible that Sony could help them out (since Sony has pro video in spades), but I spoke to some Olympus reps yesterday at my local camera store, and one of them gave me the impression that Olympus video expertise is still on the short side (though I could be misinterpreting his remarks). So I do not think the Sony video expertise is trickling down to Olympus anytime soon (and perhaps is not even meant to under the OlySony partnership).
At your local camera store? People on this website are almost definitely better informed about the future trends. Stores are not given secret information.
Olympus should learn the lesson from the price of E-P5 selling point,.even from GH3,if the new E-M1 come with a very high price,.i doubt many M43 user will be interested to buy ,.concerning the price of E-M5 will drop,.and also GX7 .
probably the most potential buyers will come from people who put a high hope for their 43 glass .other than i am sceptic the majority people will upgrade their body anytime soon
I don’t really think Olympus made E-P5 to be a best seller…It’s unspeakable but this camera have a “spirit”.
Target for selling is more E-PL5 and E-M5.
GH3 is the best competitor video, do not forget it. EM-1 or EM-5 can’t do better
Another reason why the EM-1 will fail.
$1500.00, and so-so video. “but it has IBIS”
And Olympus sold the tech to Sony, who will use it do their advantage and MFT/Olympus disadvantage.
I see rocky roads ahead..
Mr ALL CAPS
You have no clues why people buy m43.
Olympus just cant make 1500% look like a great deal, i see a 45% chance of success for the E-M1.
No, its just ur driving.
Oly better have PAL-video or Panny will blow them away
If the E-M1 has class-leading video, then Panasonic should be concerned and act accordingly. But I suspect that the E-M1 will have the same video as the E-M5.
Yes, unfortunately, that’s my working assumption until Olympus informs us otherwise. E-M1 support for PAL & 25/50 (or lack thereof) should show whether Olympus is even trying to address video codec (etc.) issues to expand its market.
Once the Oly E-M1 “One Beautiful System” (OBS) is released, I think Oly should make their next OBS goal: one beautiful image + video camera. Olympus should want to leverage their IBIS advantage into video ASAP (before others catch-up, e.g., Panny’s new IBIS).
@atlasman
Your suspicion is correct.
Panasonic should hurry up and make GH3ii with a decent viewfinder eyepiece or offer a free replacement service on the current one … the EVF is like a distorted fishbowl – such a shame, if it had a usable EVF it would be a winner!
G6 viewfinder in the GH3 please 🙂
everyone can dream ^_^
is it really that bad?
if you want to use the EVF … its do not buy this camera (bad). Yep – that bad. I went to get one and left it in the shop.
G6 I still really like. And depending how I get on with my Ricoh GR, the G6 might be my next m43 camera. G6 EVF – great. And not the same as the GH3, launched soon after, so its an admission that the GH3 EVF one was a mistake.
Imagine the old Nikon D40, the curved bit of plastic. You can actually see that it is curved. But none of the reviewers mention it (do they actually have it in hand or are they reviewing a spec sheet?).
…G6 viewfinder in the GH3 please…
I have to say I didn’t like the G6 viewfinder. I know people had issues with the GH2 vf, but I still find it to be the best for my eyes. And while Panasonic are at it, bring back the multi-aspect sensor.
Hey Admin, why is there no word on EM1 video?
Because the camera is embargoed until September 10.
This does kinda steal the thunder from Olympus, given their $1500 price tag
Could this mean a GH3 refresh too?
Uah uah, how much are the cheapest Canons and Nikons?
the OMD series will never have as good of video or should I say full video capabilities. The ibis creates too much heat to run the video for long period of times. So imo the gh3 will always win in the video side. I have both the em5 and gh3 and I prefer the em5 images much better than the gh3 images. They are both good but the em5 is sharper and less noisy at lower isos. I also do not believe this new em1 is just for people with old ft lenses. Think of the possibilities this camera could have with other lenses. Is there a way to make the canon or nik lenses auto focus with this camera as well?
I have used the E-M5 extensively in video since it’s release and never has heat been an issue.
If the rumor is true that the E-M1 has live HDMI out, this should probably
mean that they spent more effort on other aspects of the video part too?
Not that I need a video broadcast standards device, but it would make the OMD pro
more inteesting for the ones who need such things as 24/25/50 ultra bitrate etc.
25% off in 8 months. Not so bad for a Panasonic, GX1 lost about 50% by that age.
I will not buy GH3 or even look at it until VK (google personal view) and his helpers release a GH3 hack.
So send him / release open firmware so we can have higher bitrate in ALL-I.
And please: give us our multi aspect ratio sensor back in GH5!
As for other GH5 features look at:
– BMD
– 5DIII
– give us an option known from EP5; re-configure those strange modes such as iAUTO, SCN, flower, head, mountain to C4, C5, C6, etc.
NOBODY USES IT ON GH LEVEL CAMERA
– GX7.
ありがとう
New GH3 (and G5) firmware got released a number of weeks ago.
In my opinion, the best thing about the PDAF sensor is that Panny and Oly provide some new M4/3 lenses with CDAF+PDAF focusing system.
Interesting, but be cautious. I looked at Samy’s site, and nowhere did it indicate that it comes with a USA or Canada Warranty. It could be Grey market, which means an “international warranty” that is NOT covered in every country so repairs would usually have to be sent to out of country, and typically take much longer. Plus international warranties may have additional restrictions with no legal recourse. From what I can see, Samy’s is the only one offering that price, and everyone else, including direct from Amazon if they have stock, is running $100 to $200 more.
Caveat Emptor (Let the buyer beware).
Refurbished and used – not new one you idiot!
Where did you see refurbished?
One retailer lowers the GH3 price, and it might not even be permanent, and all hell breaks loose in the comments – again. Since Pana opened the announcement season, the amount of sensationalist articles and flaming and trolling in the comments has increased tremendously. I think it hasn’t been this bad before. I hope it gets better before it gets worse.
Blame it on the article: GH3 competitor is EM1 (wtf?) and EM1 is overpriced (we don’t even know its specs or price for sure now). All that crap based on a suspicious priceor what seems to be refurbished GH3… Post this in a forum an you’ll be tagged as troll 😉
Agreed with both of you. This place is amazing…all you have to do is read the first post.
Still to expensive. Should be around 350 euro.
Pan GH3 is top of the range with weather sealing and the go to for video. So you gotta be kidding to want it for €350.
G6 is £549 … I think £499 soon please 😉
GH3 is £889 … £799 would be an AMAZING price! (but the EVF is an outright fail)
Needs a $2499 discount.
Look at GH2 and GH1, still selling at good price compare to other M43 machine
I think the price drop is due to the release of 70D, which is a direct competitor to GH3 for video
Yeah sure, the 70D is a direct competitor… Maybe the S100 is.
Totally agree. Its too late for a drop price. I really considered purchase it, but once I saw the price, gave up. Now I’ll go for the 70D
Uhm mediamarkt in the netherlands has been selling the gh1 with 14-140 for the price of the lens + 50 euro…
Go look for a used body on ebay and come back with your findings
Why would I when I can get a new one for the price of a lens I want anyway?
Besides, I have no use for one.
Are you talking about the new (better) 14-140 or the older one?
The older is available in used but excellent condition for around 300-350 Euros.
So did you buy your set for 400 Euros then?
The older one.
This is for a new camera with full warranty.
Wheres the link to this fantastic deal?
There is no online deal, but the shop selling it for that price was mentioned a few posts up, Mediamarkt in the Netherlands, specifically the one in Utrecht.
And eh, you owe us a few links to those extremely well published GH3 weather sealing spec, should be really easy seeing it is very well published…
GH1 ~ 150-200 Euros (about the same as a used G3)
GH2 ~ 350-450 Euros (at the higher end about the same as a used G6 or Olympus E-PL5)
On a similar subject, I would not be surprised to see the used Oly E-P5 soon falling even under the price of a used OM-D/E-M5 (around 650 Euros at the moment)… 😉
One thing that Panny and Oly need to do and that is beef up their retail presence in the US. I can go into any Best Buy and try out, at least in a limited way, a range of DSLRs from Canon and Nikon. I cannot find a GH3 in any Best Buy to try out. Many people don’t even know about this camera. If the average person could hold one and try it out, next to the Canon/Nikon DSLRs, then Panny may get a few more sales. People could appreciate the size/weight, the responsiveness, the video, etc.
Gh3 other panasonic fail …..camera is terrible
and by exactly how much did you improve the world with your trolling comment now?!
go out and take some pictures with your full (of yourself) frame instead, for pete’s sake.
At least will help people for nit buying that piece of shit !
GH-5
10bit
2k
….and not much you change in body and so on.
1200,-$
would this be a simple but logical jump?
so simple.
NOW