Sony a7R shutter shake test. Super High tech!
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Jay: “I created a really high quality Sony RX100M3 Comprehensive Breakdown Video!! How to use the camera and more advanced features and so fourth. Great and applicable to all the newer Sony cameras as well 😉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TMyE3B89o”
Morgan: “This is some photos i made with my A7s : http://mbapphotography.tumblr.com/search/A7s”
Jacob: “Conowingo Migration https://vimeo.com/113741050 Final product of the Sony FS700 and Canon 40x via Fotodiox adaptor. Additional footage shot on A7s.”
Christian: “Last September I had the opportunity not only to interview but also follow a professional wildlife and macro photographer during 2 mornings. This was a magical experience and a real boost in terms of creativity.
All the pictures featured here are taken with my Sony NEX-5T and sigma 60mm f/2.8 ART. Just a few ones are even taken with the 16-50mm kit lens!
http://ilovehatephoto.com/2014/12/02/my-journey-with-a-pro-wildlife-and-macro-photographer-part-1-discovering/
http://ilovehatephoto.com/2014/12/08/my-journey-with-a-wildlife-and-macro-photographer-part-2-creativity-and-philosophy/“
Vincenzo: “I’m an Italian photographer & artist based in Berlin. I recently moved from digital to analog photography, but I still like to capture digital images. So, I decided to find a “digital back” in order to shoot the glass I use with film cameras. This is an artistic choice since I looked for consistency throughout my works. I found the Sony A7 a perfect tool: good neutral color rendition (unlike Fuji X) which coupled with Canon FD glass makes easy to mimic the Kodak Portra look. Having such a “digital back” is GREAT and I plan to keep having this sort of parallel path: analog + digital with shared glass. It’s all about the lenses… it is the glass that makes the picture!
I show my images and share my experience on www.one125.com and here http://www.one125.com/blog/2014/11/14/doing-more-with-less there is my last post.“
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Just like the guy said, likes the neutral colors of the A7. You can keep that overcooked HDR crap Fuji- I don’t want it.
Saw this test a a little bit back. Totally irrelevant. You can do long exposures all day, it’s just in the 1/60-160ish range things get wonky.
then do the test and post results proving your claim.
Because a glass of water is the same as the sensor….
I’ve bumped into the issue a couple times, I just increased my shutter speed and then there was no issue, some people blew it out of proportion while others flat out refused to believe any evidence brought forward.
no point..thousands of frames shot over the past year have given me a pretty good idea of when it goes pear shaped. That and I’m pretty sure its an unfixable issue, so its just a matter of waiting for the a9. I really wanted to point out that this was just a silly test.
Yep. Exactly my experience too. 1/60-160th range vibrates even on a tripod.
I don’t need to put a glass of water atop my camera to prove it either.
Sit on it whilst you type….. its a bug-feature dummy!
Look at 1:16 in full-screen-mode.
Hahaha, I love this test. There is clearly no movement of the water.
I own a, A7r, and have never experienced “shutter shock”.
J
Look closer. Test is additionally not well thought out, see SteveGJ’s comment above.
I have the A7r and have not experienced shutter shake issues. I’ve shot it with lenses wide and long at different shutter speeds, but so far, any smearing can be attributed to my shaky hands and long exposures.
This is my exact experience as well, I just don’t understand how so many people can have this problem.
Yawn… Such exciting “news” and “reviews”…
Never trust a dope who puts the water glass atop the camera BEFORE plugging in the remote.
The fact is that the table is absorbing the shock because the camera is balanced with front of lens resting on surface. Try it again with camera on tripod and lens unsupported.
Even on tripod, I get shutter shock between 1/60 and 1/160 ss, when camera tripod socket is used. Mounting tripod onto LAEA-4 adapter reduces the shock tremendously. Installing the Tough E-Mount Adapter has also reduced the shutter shock to nothing.
I’m glad and happy for all those who haven’t experienced the a7R shutter shock issue. I’m shocked and baffled why they think those who have experienced it are lying, or crazy. Just because you haven’t experienced it doesn’t mean that others haven’t. And I don’t know anyone who shoots with their camera resting on desktop with water glass on hotshoe. NOT a reliable method for telling me that my problem doesn’t exist.
Lloyd Chambers documents the issue here:
http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013/20131220_3-SonyA7R-shutter-vibration.html
With a follow up here:
http://diglloyd.com/blog/2014/20140116_1-Sony-A7R-shutter-vibration.html
Ferrell McCollough does a much more scientific test documenting the issue here:
http://beforethecoffee.com/sony-a7r-vibration-comparison-with-nikon-d3-and-sony-nex-7/
Surely these fellows wouldn’t go to such great efforts of testing if the problem had not been recognized. It’s a problem for me when shooting copy work. Must used shutter speed of 1/200th or above, even on a tripod.
I too wonder why after owning the A7r for a year now I have never been able to replicate the shutter shock effect presented by the people you reference. As an A7r owner I’ve read and studied all of these shutter shock posts with great interest they guys have presented plenty of detail for any of us to test for ourselves and I have, many times. It’s not that I don’t believe the now infamous tests and testers. It’s just that no matter how hard I’ve tried, I’ve never been able to duplicate anything like what any of these guys are presenting.
Here’s another point of view:
“The deadly shutter shock issue on the increasingly popular Sony A7r just won’t go away. The reasoning behind it, is shaky at best…. I would like to dispel some myths and perceptions immediately. Many people are making way too big a deal of this.”
https://bitchinlight.wordpress.com/2014/10/11/shuttershock-on-the-a7r-shhh-utter-nonsense/
>I too wonder why after owning the A7r for a year now I have never been able to replicate the shutter shock effect presented by the people you reference<
Interesting, my observation too. I avoid Prius on the road like the plague, not because they're going to zoom-off a high speed on there own, but because more than an average number of their "drivers" are monumentally incompetent incompetent egg-headed idiots.
It’s probably the single most idiotic and unscientific so called “test” I’ve ever seen.
Title of the Sony blog post: ” … Sony Mirrorless Cameras – The Next Generation of DSLR.”
The video regarding shutter shuck has been discussed at Dpreview already. At 1:16 in Full-Screen-View you can see the wiggle in the fluid surface.
You call that a test?
Put the camera on a tripod, a vertical accelerometer at the front end of the lens and look at it with an oscilloscope.
Yes, it was extensively discussed on dpreview. It’s a woefully insensitive test for something that’s meant to detect vibrations of the order of 10 microns and durations measures in millseconds. Not to mention the damping effect of the mass of the glass of water and the camera being placed flat on a solid surface.
Not just a worthless experiment, but a completely misleading one conducted by somebody who hasn’t much of a clue on how to carry out a controlled test.
Agree, but even so, you can see slight wiggles of the surface as already pointed out on the dpreview forum.
Wanted to say that too, water clearly wiggles a little, and that is ENOUGH with so high resolution sensor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25udaa-Wn4E
You need a T-Rex to make the cup of water ripple. 😛
I do have problems with shutter shake and ET between 1/160 and 0,5s and my 80 and 120 mm primes. I can reproduce it any time. To get rid of it, I use either a ND filter or tweak the ISO. Images with shutter shake are absolutely unusable.
Amazing.
If you put the cup at the end of a 200mm it might be a better test.
Why is it the dumbest thing one sees all year always shows up on Dec 29th ?
How is it possible that dumb people can afford expensive cameras? Where do they get the money from? 😮
Their mom.
I recently purchased a Minolta AF Reflex 500mm lens for use with my A7r and NEX7. Even with the LAEA-4 adaptor mounted on a heavy Gitzo tripod and the shutter fired with a 10s self timer, the images are hopelessly blurred at any shutter speed. Using the NEX7 instead of the A7r with the exact same setup and subject produces perfect images that reflect the excellent quality of this lens. Can’t wait for an A7r replacement with an electronic first curtain and five axis stabilization. I use the A7r mostly for landscapes with the FE55, FE35, FE 24-70 and see no shutter vibration with these focal lengths. I purchased and then returned the FE70-200 because the shutter vibration was quite noticeable at 200mm and degraded the image too much to take advantage of such an expensive lens. It wasn’t any better quality at 200mm than my old Minolta 100-300APO lens.
Sold my 500mm reflex, but nice to hear someone trying it out on the A7R. Suggestion, but did you try it with the grip attached. The added weight I believe is said to anchor the camera and prevent blur.
P.S. Love to see some pics.
Not. The grip raises camera tripod mounting point higher, causing more vibration, more sag, and less stabiity. The tripod mount on LAEA-4 cannot be accessed when a7R grip is attached. Worst design ever. Probably the same for a7II grip.
Yeah, I’m thinking in terms of mounting the camera from a mounting ring on the lens. I’ve heard in this scenario with the grip acting as a counter balance it works. Still, it’s apparent that these smaller cameras and higher mega pixel counts don’t exactly mix. Although, plenty on line who swear they have had zero problems. Tele’s are always a handful though.
Funny, I get no shutter shake with my Minolta 7000.
When taking photos with the A7R I can feel the shake but to be honest I didn’t see any blurred photos .
For fun I mounted a Minolta 600mm F4 with a LA-EA4 adapter , I got so many great and sharp birds photos without having any problem.
Maybe it depends on the situation , wish I have time to do some real tests