At last a trusted source confirmed that Sony should launch a new High End APS-C E-mount camera in 2015. The source didn’t share specs but he said the camera is definitely placed above the current A6000. This very much sounds like the long-awaited NEX-7 successor. There is yet no exact timing for the release but the source said the camera was pretty much final when he saw it.
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Months ago an anonymous source shared that A7000 info but please take that part of the rumor with a huge grain of salt:
2015 will see the release of the a7000. It will include a new version of the 16-50 powerzoom dubbed version II with much improved quality. The camera itself will feature full tethering capabilities, 4k video (uncompressed output), 1/8000 shutter speed, weather sealing, and maintain its rangefinder style. Above all this, a new 16-70 zeiss will be released that will be weather sealed as well. The 16-50 will not be weather sealed.
The sensor will be a new one, but still 24 mpx.
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Insert A-mount comments here ***
A-mount rumors will come for sure. So please do not distract the attention from that E-mount rumor 🙂
Next big A-mount rummor will be … A-mount is dead … 😛
More probable that they will merge A-mount lenses and E-mount bodies by offering a good and fast lens adapter for the e-mount cameras that uses the camera’s autofocus system. Once the on-sensor PDAF is fast enough there is no need for the SLT any more, and with IBIS in the a-mounts the last real advantage will then have disappeared.
A-Mount lenses can’t work with on-sensor PDAF, they need a stepper motor for that instead of the ultrasonic motor; not to mention that many A-Mount lenses (including the best-in-class 135mm ZA) don’t have any motor at all.
Can’t the adaptor include a motor to drive te AF system needed by the sensor’s PDAF? That would be something nice, at least for me because I hate DSLR’s need for AF Microadjust in order to get the best out of your lens.
A-mount is dead. yeah, we all know it for sure.
IBIS? Would make sense as Sony is now able to squeeze IBIS in a fullframe body, it should be easy to build it into a APS-C body :).
no it wont have ibis.
Bummer 🙁
I think it may come down to size. My guess is that the A7II is significantly thicker is the IBIS. If they can keep the body thin, it will have it. If it makes it too thick it won’t.
The mechanism is probably much smaller for a APS-C sensor. So it should be doable.
Doable, sure. It will still require a thicker body.
I agree it is totally doable, but I still believe the decision on whether to have it or not will be based on size.
APS-C mirrorless flagship must offer something consistent compared to the a6000
And where is the RX2??
I’m rather shocked someone cares. 😮
For the current price of RX1 you’ll easily get an A7 + 35/2.8. It’s not even that much bigger:
http://camerasize.com/compact/#487.394,468,ha,t
And they sell thousands of FE-mount bodies, so why would they make a competing RX2?
RX1 was a commercial flop. Even Sony (with its poor financial results and stagnant management) must have noticed.
RX 2 will be a much smaller size canera than the A7, and will have a better build, made in japan. It will even be a bit smaller than rx1 thanks to the curved sensor and have a pop up viewfinder.
RX1 a commercial flop? Where did you get that idea? Sources please?
I’m afraid that is something I can’t talk about. You can suspect whatever you wish.
But you can look around the net. Check how many people post photos made with an RX1, how many reviews there are, how many accessories are made by third party companies. These are all decent signs of how popular a camera is.
We all know Sony is not making money on its camera business. It is also widely believed A7 is profitable. So why would Sony make a competitor? That would be really weird.
I rarely see a Ferrari in everyday traffic, but I wouldn’t take that as proof that Ferrari is a commercial flop.
We all know Sony is not making money on its camera business? Where did you get idea? Sources please! Oh wait, you can’t talk about that. Well, maybe you shouldn’t talk at all 🙂
But then you (most likely) rarely see a 200k+ EUR car.
Sony RX1 costs more than $2500 today. There are A LOT of cameras in this price range. And where is the RX1? Nowhere. 🙂
Even if we ignore professionals, I’m pretty sure more wealthy amateurs buy a Leica for its history, nice logo and hipster appearance.
The other thing about the RX1 is that, while it used to be shown as a flagship, high-end small camera, any kind of advertising disappeared when A7 was released. So clearly, Sony does not want to hit A7 sales with a similar camera. Why would they make a new model? 🙂
If money is the problem then RX1 is not for you, same as a Ferrari. It is a premium Sony gadget.
just like the world first OLED TV, XEL-1
Exactly, there won’t be a RX2. At least not with the same build and lens quality. I’m sure we’ll see compact cameras with full frame sensors at the lower price range in a couple of years.
You’ve clearly misunderstood the previous post. 😮
I’ve also noticed you’re already replying to you own comment (you know they can be edited?).
A products is successful when it earns money – one way or the other.
It’s very nice of Sony, that they decide to release some technologies early with high price tag.
This would even be sensible, if it helped selling some other, profitable products.
Problem here is: Sony doesn’t make many profitable products…
But strictly speaking: the result on these products is negative. Sony looses money. PC division is out, TVs are on the same path and phones will follow.
Today they really resemble Kodak from early 1990s and it didn’t end well. 🙂 And you expect them to loose manpower on some marginal RX2…
After reading all of your posts, it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Even if we assume that you actually had some internal information which you can’t disclose, such as profit per unit, units sold etc., it is impossible to rely on that when you throw empty assumptions around and speak about Sony’s TV or PC businesses, which are entirely irrelevant in this discussion.
Maybe you should check around the internet how popular this camera is.
I don’t get how Sony’s TV and PC businesses are irrelevant. This is the same company. It acts pretty much identically in all these branches, i.e. it releases many new things, many gadgets and also many very nice products.
But the end result is: for most ofthe time they don’t make a profit.
We can laugh all day about how Nikon doesn’t make proper DX lenses and how Canon can’t make a sensor with low ISO performance good by current standards. But simple fact is: Canon and Nikon (and Olympus) are making money. Sony is not.
Occasionally I get the feeling that rumor sites are swarmed by fanboys. Seriously – I’m not against Sony and I’m not trying to harm your honor, if you own a Sony camera. But the financial situation of Sony is very bad. Maybe the site admins should write about it from time to time, because the level of knowledge about that is clearly pretty low among people commenting. I find this unfortunate.
We are discussing one thing here – whether the RX1 was a commercial flop. For this, Sony’s other businesses are irrelevant or, if you wish, too far-fetched of a connection to build any proper assumption on. Same goes for your comparison with the Leica, as those guys don’t have a similar camera and even if they did, its (better or worse) sales wouldn’t be indicative of the popularity/profits of the RX1. Not to mention that popularity (users) and profit (company) are actually two different things.
And I don’t know why you are even including Nikon and Canon here. You are unhappy about us here being unhappy with Canon’s sensors and because Canon is making money, then the RX1 is a commercial flop?
You can call anyone fanboy and make not-so-subtle comments about people’s knowledge, but it is your arguments that do not make any sense.
Mr. Kosewski, the arrogance you display, holding yourself better than others, is unfortunate.
Yes, Sony as a whole is losing money, and the situation is not good, but not the imaging division, or the camera division of the imaging division; they are making money.
Andrea (the site administrator of SAR) DOES talk about the financial situation from time to time, when warranted.
I do expect that Canon and Nikon are making money, but Japan had to bail Nikon out about a decade ago, and they have had financial emergencies since then–like Sony, not due to their imaging division.
Olympus was in big financial trouble–worse than Sony’s current situation–until Sony bailed them out a year or so ago. (Sony now owns what some would see as a controlling stake in Olympus; it is in any case an extremely influential stake.)
Sony’s administration is hardly static. It has been constantly changing in the seven years I have known something about it.
Oh… me and my arrogance.
You must be from US. No offence. ^^
I must say I don’t know about any government help for Nikon in last 20 years. I’ve also checked the shareholders and no government owned company or fund has more than 1% of shares. If you have any info on that matter, I’d gladly read it.
Of course everyone knows about Olympus problems and most noticed Sony used the occasion to become a major shareholder. This is hardly a controlling stake, but enough to push some buttons occasionally. On the other hand, Sony’s share is almost equal to Olympus Imaging share in company’s revenue, so this could lead to some actions in the future.
And I didn’t say the management staff doesn’t change. I meant the style they run the company. Sony’s approach to camera business is very similar to what they did with laptops and TVs in the last 10 years. And we all know how it ended.
I don’t know what you are trying to prove or even if you are trying to prove something, but your arguments are lame and you don’t see it, or if you do, you won’t admit it. I assume you’re a teenager, which is not a bad thing in itself 🙂
Statistics…
Expensive cars are generally rare, so it’s no surprise you don’t see them often.
It’s different with cameras. Relatively many people walk around with $2500 bodies, many pros use them. And many people put their photos online.
I can’t think of any good reason why buyers of RX1 would be less interested in using flickr or pbase than those who have chosen an A7.
Sony is a public company. You can find their financial statement here (page 89):
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/FY13_Consolidated_Financial_Statement.pdf
Obvious things:
– income in some divisions (Pictures, Music) is stable, even growing, which is good;
– income in “consumer electronics” is not stable, which is not that good.
Keep in mind the “Devices” division makes some things for cameras (most importantly: sensors), so it is easily possible to shift income between these 2 divisions. And it seems possible, when you look at 2012-2014 figures.
Again, I am absolutely not arguing the numbers of the divisions, but whether the RX1 was a flop. There simply isn’t any tangible evidence for that and I haven’t seen a valid argument either. Even if the division is losing money, that doesn’t necessarily mean every product is not selling well.
Also, I disagree with comparing the RX1 to other $2500 bodies. It is limited by its nature, hence why it is more of a specialized and high-end item. It also costs 2800 at BH and the EVF is 450. There’s you reason why it is less popular than an a7 which costs significantly less even with the SZ 35mm.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/business/view/struggling-sony-to-cut-pay-as-abe-calls-for-higher-wages
apparently they are making a loss,
I personally would like them to make a 36 mp full frame lytro illum camera , since they keep churning out cameras
On the contrary, Sony IS making money off its camera business, even on the A-mount cameras.
I’ve posted a link to last financial statement and some comment in different post.
Generally: in last 2 years Sony’s profit rate in cameras was slightly above 2% (that is operating income / sales). This value includes “inner” income and numbers suggest a lot of this might come from another division (Devices). So it is possible that real income is around 0, although this is Sony’s secret. Still, this is much better them some other divisions.
But some companies perform much better. A lot has been said about Nikon’s poor financial situation (which is a fact), but they’re actually close to 9%…
Rather than make an RX2 they should simply make a 35mm f/2 and 35mm f/1.4 lens for the A7II and A9.
Sony is badly shooting themselves in the foot by not bringing out a good, fast 35mm lens – I’m discounting the current f/2.8 as just not good enough aperture-wise. It’s also wayyyyy too expensive.
Deliver a good 35mm f/2 at about $600 and make the 35mm f/1.4 about $1200-$1400 and just get it over and done with. What’s so difficult to understand about that?
Drop the RX1 and forget about RX2. Both unnecessary now, in my simple opinion.
35/1.4 is coming in 2015 and Loxia is (almost) here, what do you want more? :/
You want to see the list?!? It’s pretty big 🙂
He’s talking about a 35/1.4 and 35/2.
So? You ask what do you want more, I have a big list of what more I want … hehehe 🙂
YEAH! You told them good!
Can’t wait. Been waiting for a NEX-7 replacement for a long time. Despite this I decided to pick up an a6000 this past weekend and a bunch of lenses (10-18, 20, 16-70, 35, 50, 55-210) Even if the a7000 comes out, the a6000 at current prices ($450 body only) probably means that I could sell it for $200-250 and only lose $200 on an upgrade. And as those who have been waiting for a NEX-7N, whoops, the a7000 can tell you, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s delayed.
Most looking forward to a return of the tri-navi most of all. Hopefully bring back the NEX-7 rear AF/MF switch. Same or better AF than the a6000 would be 2nd, and an improved sensor over the a6000 will be nice. Not needed for my needs, but 4k, weather sealing, and 1/8000 shutter is a nice addition.
hear hear
I want IBIS and a silent shutter real bad
The silent shutter is perfect for thoes up skirt shots. 🙂
Admin, any hints as to whether or not there will be 5 axis IBIS?
No hints. Althaugh I suspect it’s highly likely yo happen.
That might explain why we haven’t seen one in 2014…
If it comes with IBIS, it’s insta-buy for me.
No internal 4K video recording = no buy!
This is VERY good news/rumors. I am sitting on the fence for the A7ii but would so regret not to be able to use all my wonderful APS-C lenses any more. Now I will wait and my A6000 will get me through the winter no problem.
Have you heard of crop mode?
Long overdue launch. The output of A7 jewels hindered it. Just a half stop better high ISO performance, please!
Full sensor read-out for video. 4k. Mic input. SOLD!
If it is compatible to the hot shoe XLR adapter and has headphone out!
I’d rather wait for those features to occur in the A9 camera and bask in its full-frame goodness!
Full sensor readout for 4K would probably mean a 12MP camera. It’s not practical to do full sensor video readout on hi-res sensors due to data rates and power dissipation issues.
Actually Samsung NX1 does that. It downsamples the image to 4K in the body. And from what we’ve seen – this works.
Video noise is similar to that from FF 24MPx Sony sensor. Not bad.
Bull$hit.
Video noise is similar to every other M43 camera, in other words not usable above ISO 1000 unless you can accept VHS tape quality using 4K video bandwidth.
it’s APS-C and BSI… so it’s a lot easier…
Indeed Sony should be capable of this and bring it out with the A7000 in 2015
– otherwise they will loose face to a Korean company and Sony managment would have to commit Seppuku to stay credible 😉
This sounds like the ultimate APS-C camera, and something that will maintain its compactness more so than the a7 series. Another sign that Sony is focusing on the E mount and letting it’s legacy A mount bodies out to die.
What it also needs:
* Better build quality
* Light sensor for back display
* Level built in
* Touchscreen
* More pixels in the viewfinder and the display
Then it’ll be the greatest APS-C camera sony built
If they manage to solve the NEX7 micro lens issue, and if the 1670Z MK2 will improve the border quality, than this combo would be the holiday-dream-cam.
* Screw magnesium if that boosts the price. I’ll change camera in 3-4 years, so I don’t need it to last eternity. The build quality of a6000 and its plastic is just fine.
* Light sensor.. well it could be useful, but I usually find auto-adjusted displays annoying
* Level could be useful, but I always put 3×3 grid on display and it does the alignment job just fine, especially that it gives you both horizontal and vertical references.
* I thought I couldn’t live without touchscreen when I switched from 5n to a6000, but it proved not to be sooo important. Anyway, bring on the touchscreen.
* Meh. If pixels introduce lag, I’m perfectly OK with a6000 style EVF/display
But magnesium is so much more fun when it catches on fire
true dat…
Build quality: Before my A6000 I had the original NEX-5 and it felt way better. For a top tier camera I would expect something like this. The A600 is light and feels cheap to me.
Light sensor: The NEX-5 has it and it seems to save some energy. This is not so important anyway.
Level: I too have the grid, but somehow don’t seem to be very good at holding the camera level, so again for a top level camera (the NEX-6 has one) this would be nice I guess
Touchscreen: I didn’t have one yet, but setting the focus point with the dial is not really covenient, so I guess that would be nice
EVF: Yeah, you are right, but sometimes I just feel the EVF of the A6000 doesn’t show enough in terms of where the sharpness is. It doesn’t have much lag to it even in low light, that’s correct.
Anyway, everyone wants another camera, that’s for sure. 😉
It’s all well and good for Sony to continue making cameras, but they’re neglecting lenses. Why not make some compact/pancake prime lenses?? Something in the 23mm-27mm range.
Could probably addressed with one of the coming Loxias.
But I agree, an E mount version like the superb 24 Distagon A mount would be welcome.
Although the UWA zoom is already very capable, and Sony should concentrate on fast portrait primes à la ZA85 and ZA135.
Yaaaaaawn. There is an excellent Zeiss 24, isn’t there?
I don’t want a Zeiss lens…too expensive, besides I want something more compact. Otherwise, there’s no point to mirrorless for me.
at my local store, i bought zeiss 24mm at half of the price!
Zeiss 24mm is not a pancake or even close to being compact which is the main issue with this lens.
Mmmmm…. I like pancakes.
I’d like to see more compact lenses like the 20mm f2.8 pancake too.
A short stack or full stack. 🙂
Crepes for me please…
I like carbohydrates too but it dosent mean that its good for ya. And a7000 camera dosent mean that its good for ya. So by a nx1 or GH4
If he did he would suffer from sensor envy like you do, this would cause him to troll on message boards making a fool of himself.
Don’t you see? With this camera, Sony has achieved the holy grail of camera manufacturers: camera/lens parity! One aps-c body for every aps-c lens produced!
lol
There’s a 20mm 2.8. Just crop a bit.
Give me smaller/lighter/higher quality SEL1650P II and Zeiss 16-70 therefore WITHOUT OSS and IBIS in the new A-7000
No thanks, OSS works better than IBIS.
Indeed. But IBIS works with all the lenses 🙂
The biggest selling point of the NEXes is its amazing compatibility with all other mounts. Since focus peaking works so well, lack of AF isn’t a big issue. But having IBIS for those longer focal lenghts really helps a lot.
Not for all things. OSS can’t compensate for roll for instance.
A 5 axis stabilised A7000 that works with the Sigmas, with a better sensor and A6000 performance, better EVF+4k internal, and It’s mine .
Sony will never do 4k internal, cos that dosent belong in dslr cameras only for Video cameras. Truth
Well…it’s about time for A7II replacement too, now that the first customers received them :))
a7 Mk III should be imminent any day now as well 🙂
And this is a problem how? Cars models are revamped twice a year in some European communities.
It’s a joke 🙂
No they are not.
So, two second versions of relatively new lenses that they already have…boring
That is part of the SR1 rumor, so probably not true
Hopefully the A7000 will use the famous APSC sensor! with IBIS! with a better EVF! and silent shutter! and a touchscreen! This would be perfect!!
And they’ll call it the A7000! …
And Samsung nx1 hacks a7000 easly
In your dreams. NX1 focuses slowly in even an only slightly dim environment.
Users require 100mbps XAVC (not XAVC-S) 4:4:2 internal 4k recording ability!!!!
Buy a video camera, not a still camera.
IQ of all videocameras is bad comared to APSC cameras.
If sony introduce only this software tool make a pro cinema camera in 700$ range. And not in 20000$ range
Video cameras (super 35 format) produce better video than any still camera. This is what you need:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-says-they-will-fix-the-fs7-slow-aperture-response-and-in-stock-now-at-amazon/
10000$ no no no if cost 1000$ ok
You get what you pay for, stop dreaming.
Why the heck do we need pro gear in this range. At that point there is no differentiation between pro and soccer mom. There is already too many hacks who jump on the photography / video bandwagon. At least when prices were higher to really commit to being a photog or videog you needed, generally, to bleed for the gear and it weeded out those without serious commitment.
Elitist. You only need to worry about soccer moms competing with you when you rely on gear rather than skill to produce anything worth looking at. “If you’re not wealthy, you don’t deserve to have a nice camera!” F off, turd.
Not much reading comprehension, yet quick with the insults.
haha what a load of bullshit, determination and being a pro has nothing to do with being able to buy the same camera or not. DSLRs have been affordable for 10 years, I haven’t seen any more competition then before. I did see more idiots thinking they can now shoot like a pro and disappear as soon as the client saw the end result.
Or, the hack may have talent and their portfolio created with cheap gear make the Pro with all the best gear look like a talentless fool. Lol. The only commitment one needs to be great is true talent not money and expensive gear.
Amen
Byu a panasonic gh4
Or a smartphone, just as good for 4K
no, i want 4K raw 60fps, 1080p raw 120fps, 720p raw 240fps
Why stop there, how about 8K at 240FPS and 4:4:4 😉
it is possible is only a software develop not hardware
> “100mbps XAVC (not XAVC-S) 4:4:2 internal 4k recording ability”
YES PLEASE!!! 😀
I think you mean 4:2:2 10bit.
Touchscreen please.
Not gonna happen.
People people you can’t have all the things in one package for less than your average smartphone! Buy yourself a “camcorder” and shoot for hollywood, and buy a camera system with very sharp lens and shoot “pictures”! Those Japanese ceos aren’t gonna give you the best of both world. stop pixel whining.
Never heard of the HDSLR Revolution huh? Or understand its significance?
No, a camcorder will not cut it!!
No to cut something you wil need a knife, even Sony doesn’t put cutting as an option on their cameras.
you can use the A7S as a hammer though!
It is the standard for many professional productions on a budget to use stills cameras such as the A7s or GH4, as shown by them taking out the top two spots as the best video camera of 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RnXgIHbM3k&list=UUqpOf_Nl5F4tjwlxOVS6h8A
Eh? You telling me? I’ve been using them since the very beginning to shoot docu and tv shows, pretty much the last person you need to explain this to 🙂
Sweet as then!
Perfectly stated. The budgets of today are a fraction of what they were in the early 1990’s. We have to do it all with what we can afford, no budget for running three systems and a team of assistants anymore unfortunately.
EOSHD seems to think that for Canon, the revolution is over http://www.eoshd.com/2014/11/cinema-eos-mark-end-high-spec-canon-dslr-video/
Canon will just continue its slow inevitable slide into mediocrity.
That is because they’re *Canon*…. and suck. Failed to innovate at all and provide anything new and worthwhile for their customers.
Pro and Semi-Pro video recorders easily out perform any DSLR for video use, what alternate universe do you live in?
They’ll also cost at least ten times or more! Not everybody (neither can their clients) can afford to use a RED Epic or Arri Alexa all the time.
Ever heard of a camera and a camcorder? You can’t go cheap making “movies”. HAVE we seen HDSLR movies at the Oscar? No. Go out and shoot.
Just what I was looking for… I really like the a6000 but there is some stuff that are bit there that gives the impression that the a6000 is not geared for very serious photographers (and it means things like mic support, IBIS and weather sealing, etc. That happens to be some big deal for me). Hopefully this is true.
very serious photographers don’t need mic support.
Very serious landscape and wildlife hobbyists anyway…….
very serious videoshooter don´t need mic .. what.. wait..
A6000 is a stills camera. Why wouldn’t video shooters buy a proper video camera?
and BTW, 3.5 mic adaptors exist.
Are we talking people with no sense of humor or something else? Do you have something against Germans?
or IBS, althogh it can be helpful but not needed.
Thanks for correcting that out.
I want a $500 camera that’s built like a $5000 camera, and cheap lenses that perform like expensive lenses. Then I’ll wait for a 50% off sale, and still complain.
Lol
I want a $350 that is made to look like a $3500 camera and has the word Hasselblad on it, then I ask David Hasselhoff to sign it and go on a 3 week trip to Bavaria in Oktober.
Okay.
(I’m wondering and thinking why the heck is this comment directed at my initial comment).
Buy Sony A7M2 and use it in APS-C mode.
that’s 10 (or 9?) mpix, slow AF, slow fps, large size, etc.
Then I will lose the amazing AF, burst mode and many more.
Buy an external recorder and mic. You don’t need the mic input
With that I’ve to carry more gears.
Only 2 good ZA primes – 24/1.8 + 55/1.8 – for “High End” Sony APS-C? Sony first needs to bring 16/2 ZA and 85/2 ZA lenses, than I can think about to move from Fuji.
Move to Fuji.
Move to Nikon. Is for elite photographers. Fuji not bad, but only puny sensor. SMASH!
The 35/1.8 is also excellent.
Why (overpriced) Zeiss?! Some good G lenses are enough
Samyang 16mm f/2 is very good, if you don’t need AF!
Nothing about internal 4K recording? Sucks…. guess it is a GH4 for me?
don’t let the door hit ya
Agree.
Unfortunately you will have to stick with tiny sensor 4K internal cameras for the time being, It will likely take another year or two for the hardware necessary to record 4K internally using a high resolution full frame sensor.
Smartphones record internal 4K, the video quality should be on par or slightly below the M4/3 cameras which also use very small sensors.
Nonsense, m4/3 is actually quite a nice sensor size to use for general shooting (mid way between the cinema standards of Super 16mm and Super 35mm) and better than an oversized FF sensor.
I want 4k …cash, used notes preferable
It’s great to have a possible A7000, it really is. But the, shouldn’t there be a compatible lens line up or at elast a roadmap, if you compare with Fuji high-end approach, there are tons of gaps to fill with lenses, just like Sony is trying to do with the FE lenses – except they should not worry about making faster lenses due to size. Otherwise, it’s quite pointless to have a high-end camera without a full line up of lenses to make a good use with it.
Agreed. I actually just picked up an a6000 – my first Sony. Though I’m thrilled with its performance so far, I consider it to be more or less a bridge camera. I purchased the Rokinon 12/2.0 to go along with it, but I won’t spend a penny on Sony glass until I can be sure E mount is still alive. And I don’t necessarily want to spend a grand on the 55/1.8 either. Give me compact quality at an affordable price, and I won’t ever look back to Nikon. If Fuji can do it, Sony should be able to as well…
My thoughts as well. There are some fanboys that actually call anyone demanding more lenses as haters, which makes no sense, since the main reason of any system are the lenses. I also think that using FF glass on a APS-C sensor is far from being a solution, not only the glass is bigger but also more expensive than it needs to be, which basically kills the purpose of having a high-end APS-C camera.
The issue though is that it has been more than 2 years since Sony actually made some effort on the glass front when they released the 50mm f/1.8 and 35mm f/1.8 – which BTW was a continuation of Sony’s effort on the high-end market after launching the NEX-6 and NEX-7, which was abandoned less than a year after that.
Then Sony got into FF E-mount and nothing really relevant was heard again for APS-C cameras, just as no roadmap for the past 2 or 3 years. Unfortunately, leave us not so optimistic about it. We can only hope that with the FF E-mount entering its 2nd year and this new effort towards APS-C E-mount high-end, Sony start to make sense by releasing a roadmap and filling the gaps, big gaps – no portrait lens, no quality wide angle, no fast zoom, no weather sealed lenses, etc.
But as all the resources they are putting on developing the FF E-mount, can they actually pull that off? Fuji filled their line up in less than half the time Sony is on the market with the E-mount, so as long as you actually want it, it’s plenty possible to do so.
>Fuji filled their line up in less than half the time Sony is on the market with the E-mount<
They did, but by comparison, they didn't do a whole lot more. Everyone has limited resources & time for that a honey-do list.
I don’t know what do you mean by “didn’t do a lot more”. They covered the main gaps, all they can do from now is to go for their new weather sealed line up, go for super tele for sports and wildlife photographers and provide some updated lenses for a second generation of lenses. I think that’s plenty, that’s not “didn’t do a lot more”.
As for resources, I agree, everybody has limitations but c’mon, isn’t that a big excuse? I mean, E-mount will be 5 years old soon, there is no way to say that Sony has such limited resources and because of that the lens line up is what it is. What I know is that Sony shifted their priorities a lot and as a result the things are like they are but by no reason I could give Sony a free pass like you are.
The word is “commitment”. For me, when you start to make high-end cameras, that’s when commitment towards your user base becomes very important and as they keep shifting what they want – from A-mount FF and lots of APS-C A-mount bodies 3 or 4 years ago, to high-end APS-C E-mount with NEX-6, NEX-7 and more lenses 2 or 3 years ago to FF E-mount last year, that’s a lot of shifting for me.
So as I said, if they abandoned the APS-C high-end market, fine, high-end users will invest their money somewhere else, that’s not really a good thing but at least people know what’s going on. My very big issue is that if they try to go for high-end APS-C market again without backing up that maneuver with proper lens support, from my POV that would be pretty awful and kind of deceiving in lots of ways. So that’s why for me, they either let things as they are, with no proper support or if they decide to go again for high-end, do it properly. I don’t think that’s unreasonable, that’s quite logical actually.
Hear, hear. The good thing is that Sony have the R&D capacity to iterate these amazing bodies at very good prices. It would be nice to see some glass to go along with it, though.
Beyond the need for a high quality wide angle lens for aps-c cameras, all of the high quality FE lenses will suffice for crop e-mount camera bodies. Aps-c lenses will always be limited for all camera makers that produce full frame bodies.
A good reason to take a look at Fuji’s X cameras, and M4/3. Both have a better lens selection than Sony. When I bought my first Sony NEX, I thought that this could be my Canon killer. But the lack of the lenses, I need, has changed my mind.
Cameras are just tools. Always use the right tool for the job.
I’m sorry but as I see it, in Sony’s case it’s way beyond limitation. Limitation is not having as frequent updates as FF or not always having the highest quality, but in this case it is more than that. Canikon does provide a wide range of focal length, zoom and primes – as Fuji and micro43 do -, their APS-C users don’t really feel like they lack lenses to do whatever they have to do. And it’s only ok for FF lenses to suffice something when it’s a plus for something, not when that’s the only option. Why would I buy tons of FF lenses for a APS-C body if it’s more expensive and bigger? That kills the purpose, if I was to do so, I would rather buy a FF myself. A-mount APS-C may not have support, but at least the lenses they already have are good enough to cover the main focal length, which is not the case for E-mount, there are just a few lenses that you can really rely on aside from the $1k+ Sony/Zeiss.
I think it’s pretty simple, you either produce high-end cameras and provide the appropriate lens support or you simply don’t go there, because it doens’t really make sense to provide high-end cameras for users that will need lenses if you don’t intend to do so, it’s pretty contracdictory.
So you think a high end aps-c body is appropriate if Sony makes more aps-c only lenses that are cheaper / smaller versus the higher quality offerings?
No, not really.
Ultimately I just said that if they are to offer a high-end body, it only makes sense to provide proper lens support for that.
It’s pretty simple, no need for misinterpretation.
I also said that FF lenses are bigger and more expensive than a proper APS-C lens counterpart, therefore, FF lenses are not really a solution and that if I was to only buy FE lenses, I would rather do it for a FF camera.
I think that a system can’t have $1K lenses only, even Fuji, that offers high quality lenses for APS-C, has plenty of offerings for sub-$1K, even fast primes. So it’s possible to offer the same, and then, as the system matures, you can offer cheaper solutions for those that want it or simply do that at the same time.
For instance, the 50mm f/1.8 and 35mm f/1.8 have a great price for their performance and I think that there should be more lenses like these. The issue is that between 16mm and 50mm Sony has just too many lenses, 16mm, 20mm, 30mm, 35mm, 50mm, on the other hand, from 50mm and beyond, there are basically no primes, no 85~135mm equivalent for portrait, no proper macro, etc. Why not develop more lenses and fill those gaps? Does that sound so unreasonable? For a 5 years old system I think it’s quite the opposite.
Man, I agree with you. And the 16mm lens kinda suck. Fortunately there’s Sigma with their 19mm. And for the 16mm… I like the Samyang, but that thing is huge. Sony does really need to make a fast short telephoto prime!
A Pro/Prosumer camera needs some G quality lenses, Not variable aperture Kit Zoomz or Overpriced Zeiss! Me, I’d like a f/1.8 10mm (= 15mm FF), a f/1.8 90mm (= 135mm FF) and a f/2.8 60mm Tilt & Shift (=90mm FF).
Maybe not to your taste, but have you consider those? and they might have a fixed aperture zoom:
E PZ 18-105mm F4 G OSS Power Zoom Lens
E PZ 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 OSS E-mount Power Zoom Lens
Vario-Tessar T* E 16-70mm F4 ZA OSS Lens
FE PZ 28-135mm F4 G OSS Standard Zoom Lens
8-D Where is the Tilt & Shift Zoom ?? 8-D Much of my work is Table-Top product shots.
I ONLY shoot Wide (14mm FF) or Long (135mm FF) plus the 90mm Tilt & Shift. I never ever use a 35mm, 50mm or 85mm, so why would I want to carry the extra bulk/weight of an un-needed zoom lens ??
This is the tilt/shift troll.
Can you show me one brand with a 10mm F1.8 lens? I could not find it.
Do you know what a T/S lens costs. are you willing to pay that? BTW Canon is the only brand that offers native T/Slenses there is a reason for that, not every Professional is using a T/S lens, in act only a very small number of people know how to use them. Oh and look at the price of those lenses….
1. Sony could be the first to make a 10mm f/1.8 DX lens 😉 One can hope.
2. Yes I know how much a Canon TS-E 90mm f/2.8 costs, and I use one regularly.
2a. The Nikon PC-E Micro Nikkor 85mm f/2.8D http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/570522-USA/Nikon_2175_PC_E_Micro_Nikkor_85mm.html is a Tilt & Shift lens.
3. I know how to use a T & S, and have been using them for years.
4. Price mean nothing, it’s all about ROI. If I can’t make money use a Tilt & Shift lens …
Lol. You’re most likely a troll, but I’ll address it anyway. Samyang/Rokinon/Bower sells a 12mm f/2.0, which apparently has really good image quality. That’s as close as it gets from 10mm f/1.8, and it’s the same for all mirrorless systems (that lens isn’t even available for DSLRs).
I also agree that they should have fast telephoto primes.
For the tilt-shift lens, that’s where it gets interesting. The short mount flange allows for interesting adapters to be made, including tilt-shift adapters:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3737485#forum-post-54536547
I made a tilt-shift zoom using a Sigma 12-24 EX DG. So if you want a 60mm tilt-shift lens, I suggest you get a Kipon TS Adapter, and if you use Nikon lenses, here’s the two lenses I’d pick between (I already had them in my bookmarks for the same purpose of making a 60mm tilt-shift lens):
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/36984-GREY/Nikon_1442_Macro_55mm_f_2_8_Micro.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/66987-GREY/Nikon_1987_AF_Micro_Nikkor_60mm_f_2_8D.html
I need to research their characteristics better before I buy one of them.
And for the constant aperture zooms, well, we have many constant f/4 zooms. If you want something faster, you’ll have to adapt lenses. If you want something really fast, adapt a constant f/2.8 zoom using a Speed Booster/Focal Lenght Reducer. It’ll give you a constant f/2 zoom.
1. Not a troll.
2. Samyang, etc 12mm (= 16mm FF) isn’t Auto Focus. Both Canon and Nikon make Auto Focus 14mm (= 14mm FF) f/2,8 lenses — a DX lens of about f/2.0 should be about the same size, and maybe cost a bit more.
3. Not interested in adapted Legacy Lenses. Guess I’ll have to keep using a 5D3 with a TS-E 90mm f/2.8. I’m trying to get away from Canon, but Sony is doing little to help.
4. As I’ve said I have No interest in any zoomz. But Sony seems to love 18- whatever variable aperture Kit-Quality zoomz.
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood what you wrote about zooms. Too bad you need AF on your fast really wide angle. And yeah, there are fast really wide angle lens available for full frame DSLRs, but not for APS-C DSLRs. Nothing that wide AND that fast is available for APS-C DSLRs, that’s not only Sony’s problem. If anything, you could have adapted your own (Speed Booster + 14mm f/2.8 = 10mm f/2), which would have given you something that’s not even available for APS-C on an APS-C sensor.
And I respect that you’re not into legacy lenses for tilt-shift, but I’d like to ask you… Why? Tilt-shift lenses are manual focus anyway!
I guess I’m a Brand Snob 🙂 Canon lenses for Canon cameras and Sony lenses for Sony cameras.
Also the lens communicates with the camera. Focus wide open, press the button and the camera stops-down the lens to the shooting aperture. Using Legacy Lenses is more like using a 4×5 (open aperture to focus than manually stop-down to shoot).
Yeah, that’s what I’m doing! But I can see advantages to that. In certain situations, opening the aperture for focusing (or even just opening it then closing it down for shooting without autofocusing) and then closing it for shooting will introduce flickering or small light changes between shots. It’s very visible for timelapses (so much that people recommend unlocking the lens to lose the contact with the camera after focusing in order to keep the aperture from moving), and I could see it causing problems with photos requiring multiple exposures as well.
But overall, why not keep your 5DM3 and get a Sony camera on the side? Like that, you could use the Sony in the situations that you can use it with, and the Canon when the Sony is lacking.
After a quick research the IQ of the Nikkor 55 f/2.8 AIS seems better than the IQ from the 60mm f/2.8 D, but the 55 has oil on the aperture blades problems. It also costs less money and can be serviced by Nikon when needed.
Any Nikon lens can be made tilt shift with an adapter. Nikon’s older lenses have aperture rings so that is why I like them more than other brands. There is no point in waiting for Sony lens here – Tilt and Shift will use manual aperture and manual focus anyway.
I would recomment you get separate tilt and shift adapters.
I bought tilt & shift adapter form Kipon and it is made extremely well. The downside is that tilt and shift are built orthogonal to each other (i.e. if shift works horizontally than tilt is vertical) and I never use both together. So better off buying two cheaper adapters that will together cost less than the tilt & shift adapter.
f/1.8 10mm I doubt we will soon see.
f1.8 90mm or close I hope we see in the winter. My theory is that Sony have issues wiht AF and wide aperture long primes, so they just refuse to make them. I think they inderstadn the importance of these lenses but just the AF system is not up to scratch.
No interest in adapted Legacy Lenses. I’ll keep using a Canon TS-E lens on a Canon camera. I really dislike Canon, but they and Nikon cover the Pro market very well. Sony not so much.
Canon tilt-shift lenses perform much better for me on an a7r than a 5d. The adapter is insignificant and loss of quality is complete bs but the operation and results are a big step up.
A 16Mp Canon 1Ds II/TS-E 90mm had enough quality for a Magazine Ad. A 5D3 is overkill No interest in FF cameras, a 16Mp APS-C/DX camera with a 60mm Tilt & Shift lens would be fine for what I do. YMMV.
In that case, there is no downside whatsoever to adapting Canon TS lenses to an e-mount body. The quality is as good or better (depending on camera body selection) and the operation is far better with focus peaking, focus magnification (way better than Canon live view), pop-out LCD for when I’m crammed in a corner, and built-in wifi for previewing on a tablet (I use this for architecture clients who want to approve photos on site…much more convenient than laptop tethering). My point is – Canon TS lenses are fantastic on e-mount bodies despite the name on the camera not matching the name on the lens.
This is reasonable and i want to believe!
“… but the source said the camera was pretty much final when he saw it.”
And what exactly did he see? NEX-7 body or A7ii with flush top panel?
This sounds promising. If it ends up having IBIS, this will replace my Nikon D7100. Need something light & with good image quality for 30″x42″ or even larger prints.
GO LIFT, WEAKLING! Buy Nikon D4s, if is too heavy, you too puny, HULK SMASH! Work out, then maybe not SMASH! People these days…
What Hulk needs to match his strength is at least an 8×10 camera, or maybe a DSLR with a 1200mm lens on it? Like, the Canon 1200mm?
anything above 400mm will make hulk p#nis jealous so thats a no go area.
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Glad to see you are proud enough to share your real profile picture NEH.
Gosh darn you really got me there with such a clever comeback, great way to show you do have a sense of humor, you just don’t know how to express it.
For me the Sony A6000 is an amazing gear to enter into Mirrorless world after a bridge camera as i m No photographer ( even if Meep rather meant Pro photographer)
Sony A7000 will be a more featured A6000, the real upgrade from Nex 7 but for the serious photographers or the owners of sony A6000 the real response of their expectations will be a FF camera….
Yawn, still puny, still no elite Nikon….
Still waited for Nikon to make as sexy and fit as sony mirrorless camera because I never been stucked on any brand? However like the advert said :
” Vous en avez rêvé, Sony l’a fait “
C´est vrai! HULK dream about SMASH Sony camera 🙂
maybe HULK can smash some Nikon D810 to make it look like Sony A7 II :p therefore they will be able to compete Sony camera :p
HULK has respect for manly camera. Sony is for fgts
u meant Lgts 😉
No HULK very particular with words…Sony for fgts…don’t be a fgt…this is fgt below, no good, bwre of fgit!
Step out of that closet there big guy.
So I guess if you think this website is full of fags you are here cruising?
Remember, Bill bigsby puny man inside big green body of hulk. Nikon use dum dum Sony sensors inside their big bodies. Nikon need smash big bodies and expose dum dum Sony sensors to smash them. No use Sony sensors anymore.
I don’t agree totally. I bought the a6000 as an upgrade from Canon’s crappy recycled sensors and did not choose a full-frame camera because APS-C is more suitable for me. FF is not necessarily an “upgrade” from APS-C. Both sensor formats have their advantages and disadvantages so I look forward to a high-end crop. Although I am a little torn because although I love the a6000, the a7000’s rumored specs (IBIS and weather sealing) make me wish I had waited.
As Hulk said I m fgts, I’m torn between FF camera and A7000…. I could give A6000 to gf and upgrade to a7000 🙂 or convert A6000 to full spectrum for IR photo in replacement of my Fuji HS10 and buy 7000… And get FF a9 on Xmas 2015 😉
However I don’t t think A7000 will have IBIS or 5 axis stabilization…
On this, AND ALL their higher end offerings, Sony need to give is true UNVOMPRESSED RAW file options. Sorry for the caps, but it really is ridiculous. Sure, have a compressed option for those who care about card space, but at the higher end of the market, when we’re paying thousands for bodies and lenses, what is the thinking behind saving a few MB of card space when what we clearly want is maximum quality from the excellent sensor we paid for?! Ridiculous.
Unvompressed, uncompressed, unrecessed, un everything is great with me. Just the RAW data please 🙂 🙂 🙂
Unvompressed, was, of course, a Freudian typo! I meant uncompressed, although the former sums up how I feel about it better 😉
why bother with APS-C anymore, I wish Sony would leave it at the A6000, which is all any APS-C photographer needs. When they want high end they should move to FF. Sony have so many great FF cameras adding the APS-C just waters down their R&D budget and defocuses them from building really high end FF mirrorless. We need a FF mirrorless with 5x the EVF resolution, better refresh rate etc etc. It’s already great, but the EVF needs to be truly brilliant to make it a slam dunk over DSLR. Next thet need FF mirrorless that can focus as fast as a D4s. Focus plus EVF means there’s not really any compelling reason to use a DSLR. To be honest if you can’t make great photos with the A7 then it’s the photographer not the camera at fault for all but a few niches (sports comes to mind). If they have to fragment, I’d rather it not be between FF and APS-C but between FF Stills and FF video, because I couldn’t give two hoots about video, but I know there’s just as many people that want mainly great video. APS-C has outlived it’s usefulness. It was a transitional technology until sensor costs came down sufficiently.
Why APS-C? Becouse there is a market for it and the manufacturers can earn money. Simple as that!
And by the way, APS-C also has advantages over FF.
With your arguments I could say that FF is only a transition technology until sensor costs come more down so we all can afford medium format 😛
Completely agree and completely disagree with your post.
Part 1 I completely agree to. APS-C is cheap and for a lot of people all that is needed. Full frame necessitates much more expensive lenses.
Part 2 I completely disagree with. People keep harping about medium format but they seem to forget that medium format has very few lenses available and most of them are shit expensive.
My friend had a very good budget and decided to get the new Pentax 645z with the Sony 50 MP sensor as he wanted to shoot landscapes. Then he saw the dearth of lenses as the 25mm f2.8 (19.5mm in 35mm terms) is the widest lens you can get currently. A cheap Rokinon 14mm f2.8 is far wider.
So he dropped the idea immediately.
Full frame is a far far far more mature system with a good amount of legacy affordable glass as well as newer not so affordable glass (but still far cheaper than MF glass).
And with the entry level price point dropping all the time medium format will probably never get the attention required to make it a competitor to full frame.
If Medium format becomes affordable in future there will still be the issue of very few lenses available for it.
Seeing how Sony is struggling to add more lenses currently I highly doubt medium format is going to become a viable system anytime soon.
APS-C combines quality and size and is a great format for light traveling, hiking and street photography. FF is just to big, heavy and expensive in that area.
I’m sorry to contradict, but I’m very happy with my APS-C sensor, and would love to have weather sealing and a few higher end features on my A6000. It is a great camera, and in no way do I feel restrained by the sensor size. The colors and dynamic range I get are really good, and even for high ISO, I feel like the regular A7 would barely be a step up. At least, I don’t feel like the difference is that big between the two. There’s definitely a much bigger difference with the A7R and A7S, but there’s also a bigger price difference. Anyway. I also wish for an A6000 with weather sealing, wireless flash remote and mic input! I often see really cool pictures I could take in the rain, but don’t dare to take my camera out.
+1
Looks like you only shot studio and landscape. Guess you have never traveled, guess you have never shot street (which means you have no internal artist) and I guess you don’t know people make livelihood out of videography.
If this camera had all the specs of the A6000 with the EVF of the NEX-6 and an audio input with manual levels, it would be a videographers dream. If they threw in in body stabization I would be in heaven.
I like APSC e mount as travel camera. My wish features are:
-nex 7 operation, external mic input, mini nex 6 EVF, a6000 AF spec and manual…etc.
-build in remote flash trigger (to work with nissin i40)
-touchscreen & able to flip 180 deg to work with selfie stick
-IBIS, only if not in expense of increase weight and size. Most E mount lens are OOS already.
-weather seal (but no lens are weather seal atm)
Man, I wish the screen could also tilt down lower! I’m a short guy, and it would be useful for when I shoot with the camera set super high on my tripod. Like, I can get my tripod to a good 7 feet high, but don’t necessarily want to carry something to step on in order to see my screen AND touch my camera at the same time (I have to back off to be able to see the screen well, and then come closer to move the camera and compose).
I have to say that I hope it isn’t touch-screen as some have mentioned in the comments. Everything is becoming touch screen and that isn’t necessarily good for speed and positive pressing of a button. Touch screens are too finicky to press especially on such little screens, you have greasy fingerprints all over them in no time and it’s slower to use and requires more precision than a directional pad/wheel and physical buttons. Keep the touchscreens to smartphones and physical keys to SLRs
Oh another guy who can’t use new technologies 😮
You know that you can deactivate the touchscreen in the settings if you don’t like it (maybe too complicated for you).
I use the touchscreen all the time on my NEX-5N with my MF lenses and found it invaluable (one reason I haven’t switched to a new model yet).
But if you don’t like touchscreens, just grab something like a Canon AE-1, I really think it will suit your needs.
Wow a rude reply to a simple statement, is a discussion bro, chill out
I’m 20 and own a flagship smartphone and other new tech so I’m fine with new technology thanks. The comment of everything going to touchscreen was just based on devices that are becoming solely touch based (Leica Mirrorless eg.) without physical controls which lack in the points I mentioned earlier.
No I didn’t realise you could disable touch, thanks for letting me know, that’s great then – maybe you can get off the offensive next time and find more polite ways of expressing yourself.
Sorry I had a really bad day.
That’s just I thought that you were one of those grumpy guys who can’t handle new technologies that I see all the time on the forums.
Also I’m quite fed up with Sony for not adding a touch screen to their cameras that’s all.
But don’t worry, up to now all the cameras in the “NEX” range with a viewfinder don’t have a touch screen, so (saddly for me) I don’t think it’ll change with this new one.
Haha all good, we all have them 🙂
I know what you mean and I dislike that too, mainly the Canon full size shooters who insist that mirrorless is rubbish – but oh well, that’s their loss! I’ve shot full size DSLR and keep thinking how mirrorless tech is better in almost every aspect! EVF, firmware, ease of use, so much to list it could go for ages haha
If the touchscreens are in accompaniment to the current physical buttons then I’d honestly be all for it, that would satisfy both sides of the market perfectly. I truly had no idea it had an on/off feature (I just imagined the Leica T which was designed with a smartphone interface haha) Sony is quite good at listening to consumers so we might see that come in at some stage!
touch screen is handy to select focus point. Miss this feature greatly from 5n.
In my opinion you’re wrong on every point!
Touchscreen are definitively good for improving speed. With one single touch you not only set the focus point, you also expands that part of the picture improving precision when using focus peaking with manual lenses. Even with AF-lenses the touchscreen improves speed since you with one single touch can choose focus point at the same time as you decide composition of the picture.
If you can manage the software keyboard on a modern smartphone, it shouldn’t be any problems at all to manage software buttons on a 3″ screen either.
If it’s a problem to wipe the screen if it gets greasy, why not use an oleophobic screenprotector for the display? It both reduces glare, greasy fingerprints at the same time as it protects the screen from scratches?
In my opinion the touchscreen actually gives a lot more precision when setting focuspoints or when moving the picture comparing to manoeuvring with the pad/wheel…
Just try to move diagonally with the pad compared to move with the touchscreen!
When will they release some damn FE glass? Is the goal to have one body for every FE lens?
Yes. Camera/lens parity.
From here on, the A6000 is such a good camera for me that the only APS-C feature that will cause me to upgrade is IBIS – which would let me use my old Nikon AI-S lenses with stabilisation. All the features mooted as improvements in the supposed A7000 would not cause me to upgrade.
APS is what E mount does better – except the lens and flash lineup, which are still pathetic. Still, what is pathetic for serious users is probably enough for the target market.
Probably won’t happen, cos Sony like to cripple their products, but here’s my wishlist:
-Weather-sealed metal body
-Same or similar sensor but with more sophisticated AF (e.g. better accuracy in low light)
-14 bit uncompressed RAW
-2-3MP EVF
-IBIS (5axis, similar to the A7II’s)
-Internal 2.5K readout for 1080p video with XAVC-S & S-Log2, external 4K
-$999 body only
You’re crippling it yourself by not having internal 4K, too
This is my wish list:
– Less megapixel sensor in order to get an all around faster autofocus, even faster than a6000; better low light capabilities and even more fps. 18mpx should be more than enough
– Weather sealed
– Ibis, in order to reduce weight of possibile sport lenses
– Better refresh rate in EVF
– Battery Grip compatibility
Sony still missing a more serious “sport” camera.
a6000 is a big improvement but still not there. Go sony, give us a nice sporty camera
How does fewer pixels equate to faster autofocus?
You’re right! It doesn’t. Pardon my mistake
Ah finally, the return of TriNav, hi-res EVF, mic input + audio controls. Just needs IBIS, Full Sensor readout, XAVC 4k, 14-bit RAW(UC), video recording expandable to 1000fps, a higher capacity battery, all metal lens mount, completely silent E shutter mode, and maybe touch screen option (for touch spot focus), to be the ultimate APS-C camera/camcorder. A slightly larger body to accommodate IBIS, a bigger 4:3/16:10 screen, and higher capacity battery would not be a problem for the enthusiast/pro crowd. That’s all Santa 🙂
I’ll believe it when I see it. The specs still scream fantasy camera to me.
Should i buy the a6000 or wait ? I am just a enthusiast and going to have the camera for personal use
I am also in the market for an A6000 but I am waiting at least until CP+ to see if the A7000 is released
i just got the 6000. love it. very fun, not as fun as the a7R, but very close indeed. for 498 US body only I couldn’t pass up
a7000 still not released 🙁 what should we do lol
I would like to see a Sony A7000-S with 12 MP better Iso performance, better EVF (2,7 MP, OLED) build in flash as a “master” useable, under 1000 €.
Sony Team should offer a street glass, i.e. something like a Canon 28-135mm. It`s humble but very decent and deeply loved by people that all the day without time to change different lenses.
The most of the time I have that humble lens in my 5D Mark III (http://titodelpielago.wordpress.com/). I love the idea of swtich to the a7R Mark II (light and faster I hope) with a light 24-105mm or much better a 28-135mm, although it should be a little “dark”. Come on, Sony !!!!!!!
Ahh, the mythical Nex-7n. It must be almost 2 years now that this has been ‘coming soon’
We are almost 2 weeks out from CP+ shouldn’t we be hearing more if this camera was truly to be released at CP+?