The Olympus OMD 5 axis stabilization diagram.
Important note: It really looks like there will be a new A7II now and a new A9 coming in January/February! So two E-mount FF to come and not one!
These are the specs of the A7II posted by Digicameinfo. This clearly sounds not like the E-mount PRO (A9?) that is likely to be announced in January/February. This is very likely an “Updated” version of the A7:
A7II specs (translated via google):
– 24.3 million pixels FF sensor
– 5-axis in body stabilization (same as the Olympus E-M1)
– LCD monitor 3.0-inch 1.23 million dot. 107 degrees up, and tilt 41 degrees below
– EVF 0.5-inch 2.36 million dot
– ISO100-25600 (extended with ISO50). Video ISO200-25600
– The shutter speed is 30 seconds -1/8000 seconds
– 270 sheets at the number of possible shots EVF use. LCD monitor when using 350 sheets
– Continuous shooting 2.5 frames / sec. When speed priority continuous shooting 5 frames / sec.
– Video XAVC S, AVCHD, MP4
– The battery is NP-FW50
– The size of 126.9mm x 95.7mm x 59.7mm
– Weight 599g (including battery and memory)
– Vertical position grip VG-C2EM (sold separately)
– Media Memory Stick PRO Duo / PRO-HG Duo / XC-HG Duo, SD / SDHC / SDXC (UHS-I compatible)
Compared to the current A7 the A7II thicker (due the different grip). Weights 100 gram more. The camera should be announced within the next days already!
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Seriously! If they add in 5 axis I’ll sell my Olympus equipment.
Shouldn’t have bought it in the first place! Hurry!
Now that I bought the A7 it’s feeling redundant. Can’t be haven non of that!
“The camera should be announced within the next days already!”
Wow!
Oh man, this just mean Xmas to me.
All right, then this will be my next camera 😉 a manual lens dream.
Don’t think that it will have a full mechanical 5-axis IBIS like the Olympus one – nobody made one since it appeared in the E-M5, I guess that there is some patents involved; and Sony/Olympus stated that their partnership are only in the medical area.
My guess: an hybrid system, like in the Panasonic FZ1000 and in the Olympus E-M10. Mechanical 3-axis, and the vertical/horizontal axis electronic stabilized with a slight sensor crop. Works very well in the E-M10.
Will be a very interesting cam.
so… A-mount…. hmmmmmm
Yeah, IBIS always seemed like the difference. I’m thinking we either get a camera that accepts both or “A” is toast. Thoughts?
cont. shooting 2.5/5 fps probably implies no a6000-style AF
I’ve owned Olympus cameras for years and my opinion is that IBIS is a gimmick. This will not convince me to upgrade my A7 and I’d rather shave 100 grams off the body than to have IBIS.
What we need is A6000-style AF or better.
Actually, I do know both the A7R and the E-M1, and after doing some amount of hand-held low-light shooting both indoor and outside in twilight with the E-M1, nothing could convince me to switch to Sony without a similar stabilizer, at least not if a FF sensor wasn’t mandatory for what I do, which it fortunately isn’t.
You need to be aware that the E-M5 and E-M1 stabilizers do run circles (no pun intended) around any other or earlier Olympus camera (I’ve been shooting stabilized Olympus DSLRs from the E-510 when it came out to the E-30 which I only recently replaced with the E-M1), and that it really does wonders for video, too.
That logic only works for static objects, in which case you’re better off with a tripod anyway.
For moving objects, a nice 50/0.95 lens on a full frame sensor is a much better option than IBIS.
How ’bout a nice 50/0.95 mounted on a IBIS camera?
IBIS would probably malfunction due to bokeh overload…
There are lots of situations in which a tripod is no option, regardless of whether the object is static or moving. And people usually choose a mirrorless camera because they want image quality without too much bulk; if they needed to carry a huge accessory like a tripod, that advantage would become rather meaningless. And while you are right with regard to the 50/0.95, even that would still profit from IBIS, too. By the way, while on one hand IBIS restricts you with regard to moving objects, on the other hand it enables you to make creative use of motion blur while shooting hand-held. The fast lens alone can’t do that.
It is a rather different camera to the A7s, but yet…. I too hope it will push down the price of the A7s! 😀
With no practical 4K recording possibility (int or ext), the A7s is dead in the waters.
Atomos Shogun are being delivered 😉
I find the Olympus IBIS perfect for video: allows you to shoot video hand held even for long tele, unlike the Sony Alpha IBIS, which is awful at long tele hand held, and not nearly as good overall.
Not as good for stills (possibly down to the Oly systems relying on it far too much and setting the shutter way too slow).
But then, Olympus are awful for video bit rate, so something like the A7s with Olympus style IBIS would be perfect, best of both worlds.
Makes sense for video indeed…
Tripple wish-list production…get in! raw source! inspired!
I can’t keep up! Almost as many rumours as there are Sony camera bodies!
And a new A7R II as well??
I don’t want to go back from 36MP, but IBIS would be enormously gratifying (I have the EM-5)
You could shoot in 24mp loose very litte “real world” resolution. When you compare 24 and 36mp…the actual resolution gains are tiny.
Sorry, but this isn’t true if you regularly print large. I use a D800 and A7R for this very reason.
You don’t have to go back. Just keep using your A7R 😉
Take my money!
ok
Wish the same happens with APS-C sensor as well, and that too in a dslr like body as APS-C range lacks one. The only problem in moving mounts is losing on the glass one has invested heavily. This will address that problem.
So what happens to future FE-mount lenses now–will they be without OIS, hence smaller and cheaper? Or will they STILL need to put OIS on lenses to support the legacy (non-IBIS) NEX’s?
All the existing and upcoming FE zooms, as well as the 90mm macro, feature lens based OSS. Why would Sony continue to develop OSS lenses if they were planning to offer sensor based stabilisation?
That is a very legitimate question.
for vintage glass with no oss
LOXIA a.o.
Because Sony claims E-mount to be univesal and to accept any kind of lenses
The zooms do, yes, but the primes do not. This also adds IBIS for A mount lenses with the adapter which addresses a big gripe I have with using them. All in all it adds flexibility and the cost of a little size and weight.
is there any word about the rumored A7X with 54MPX?
There is an A9. And I will get the specs soon 😉
thank you for the reply, I’m sorry but I read it only today… I Always have problems with logging in
may I ask you about the rumor from today, the 46mp E Mount A9 camera?
I’ve read all you posted since 2013 abouy that 54mp FF sensor, and now I don’t understand if they are going to make two different E Mount cameras, one with 46 and the top line with 54mp
I own an A7R, and I’d like to work with a 54mp E Mount camera to compete with medium format resolution, I’m really impressed by the A7R and I’d love to work with even higher image definition
thank you again
With 4k (UHD) video?
What if it turns out to be A-mount mirrorless? 🙂
That would be nice.
What would be the point? If you want A-mount mirrorless with laughable AF you have it now with every E-mount body and the non-SLT adapter attached.
Rsther disappointing specs.
Hopefully the pro will not be as dissapointing.
Yeah, 2.5 fps? That is not only NOT pro, it is not even nearly good enough for casual parent use (sports, kids playing etc).
Get a a6000 with 11fps .heck if you are lack of skills. Go to video mode. 24fps.
Because Pro Photographers can’t take a good image in a single shot hahahahaha. Damn my kids for running too fast for my slow FPS, damn their little legs. I get my kids to run in slow motion. You should try that.
Well, I can’t remember who was saying E-mount doesn’t offer feature parity to A-mount.. but if this comes, IBIS can be ticked off the list..
You will not use it anyway 😉
What I want to buy asap is the best 150-600mm lens which currently is the Sigma sport version
And the best new high resolution camera coming out…which appears to be the new pro level Sony.
Due to apparrent lack of compatability I do not see how I can get both the quality of lens I want and the quality of camera I want, even though they will both be available.
Sigma Sport will never be available in A mount, Contemporary will be.
And after some tests at Salon de la Photo in Paris, the Tamron has slightly better AF than the Sigma, but it doesn’t have weathersealing.
Tamron is soft at 600mm and not compatable with teleconverters.
Contemporarey will probably not match the sport performance.
The price, quality and wieght of the sport are really what I am looking for
If new Sony camera is fully Canikon compatable problem solved…otherwise??????
Why ask Sony to make it Canikon compatible. It makes much more sense for Sigma to include it in its Mount Conversion Service. Or try manual focus and you are free to use the best sensor camera with any lens.
Each lens/mount reqiires different special parts.
If the combination is not made the parts do not exist and it cannot be converted.
As for shooting birds in flight with 600mm manual focus….ridiculous.
This spec should be came out at the first time when announce the A7 series and then gave us non-OSS smaller lenses line up. But that was not occurred and they have full range of OSS lenses now. So, I don’t have enough reason to change to this body and must carry more 100g weight without any benifit.
They don’t have a full range of lenses PERIOD, not even close to that – let alone full range of OSS lenses.
FE: 3 oss lenses, 2 non-oss
E: lots of oss lenses, only 3 non-oss
I home you don’t mean that 3 (actually 4) OSS slow zoom means “full range”.
“E: lots of lenses” is an oxymoron.
“270 sheets at the number of possible shots EVF use. LCD monitor when using 350 sheets”
Nice translation google. 🙂
2.5 fps is a dealbreaker, sony always do something annoying, high hopes on A9.
That’s for the A7ii, which is exactly the same as you got in the original A7 (2.5/5 FPS depending on AF mode)
True. But that relatively slow frame rate makes it unattractive as an upgrade from the SLT cameras like the A57 or A77 for those of us who like to shoot sports. At least they are finally going to add IBIS.
Yeah, it should be an evolution, lets add ibis and nothing more…
So we have another basic iteration, i just not bought the a7s because of the very basic AF, and very low fps, 5 fps with continuous af tracking and about 40 frames buffer, it would be good enough to buy it. 2.5 fps without af is rather shamefull for a FF, my humble opnion.
My ex nex3 had the same if im not mistaken.
Wow, you should apply for a job at the Sony Imaging Department. I think you know what you’re talking about and how to achieve it. A real go-getter. *finger pistol* *finger pistol* *slides finger into pocket* Thanks for defining evolution for us.
Deeeeerp! Are you sold on the marketing strategy of having every year a new model that adds too little to be bought? Lets make real jumps at the right time, please. DERP
So what are the upgrades? Other than the newly developed sheets?
Can’t wait for this body to drop – that way I can pick up a used A7 for dirt cheap.
5 axis in body stabilization is a pretty huge upgrade.
No, it’s not.
It takes a lot of place. And it eats a lot of energy. So the body will become heavier and larger.
And then there’s the question of effectiveness.
IBIS in MFT works great, because it’s a small and light sensor.
A7’s sensor is heavier and larger. And it has larger pixels, so the IS movements will have to be quicker and have larger amplitude.
I seriously doubt the effectiveness will be even close to that from Olympus M1.
Adding a feature like IBIS is an upgrade. For those using the FE primes it will be very useful. You don’t know how effective it will be because you haven’t seen it or used it, so bagging it already is a little premature don’t you think?
Why are the people around here such a bunch of moaning windbags. No mater what Sony does or doesn’t do you find some reason to be pissed about it.
I think these windbags may feel inadequate themselves. Sony is like the good girlfriend that keeps trying to spice it up and surprise you with innovative gifts. Whether hit or a miss, they keep trying. Windbags just like to nit pick. At least you’re not dating Canon or Nikon lol. They got comfortable and let themselves go a long time ago.. But damn, they were banging back in the day. Now they stare at old photos of themselves and wonder what the hell happened lol.
For some maybe. I would gladly take the A7 for less money and lower weight.
Yes, for some. They can buy the A7II and you can buy the smaller and lighter A7 for cheap. Sounds like a win win to me.
It would have to be available before Christmas as well or Sony would be shooting themselves in the foot for Christmas sales.
ooo шит! i’ll finally upgrade my 4-5 years old nex 7 🙂
kit it with the 24-70 on a good Christmas price, please !
The game is over for you Canikon! Thank you Sony and THANK SO MUCH OLYMPUS!
A7ii will be the ultimate camera for legacy lenses. Legacy has just been ungraded to the next level of awesomeness. I CANNNOT WAIT for R version of this camera! 36mp stabilized manual Leica, Zeiss, Minolta and some other priceless legacy lenses!
whew thank you so much! 2015 will be the best year for sony shooters!
Make it add a touch screen for super convenient and quick manual focussing (think it would speed up AF focus point selection as well).
Interested to know how a touch screen can help manual focus? On a legacy lens! No sarcasm in this post btw. Wondering how that would work.
All Sony is add 8mm to 50mm options in software to let the stabilizer adjust according to the type of legacy lens mounted on the camera!
C’mon sony you can do this! ADD LEGACY OPTION in the MENU! the most important is the 50mm fcal length so we don’t have to put electronic chip in the lens!, THANK YOU SONY IN ADVANCED!
And this camera will still suck. Wobbly mount, poor battery life, no
lenses and the available lenses are utterly inferior when compared with
Canon L glass. Face it, Sony is on its way out, it cannot possibly
compete with Canon. DXO numbers are irrelevant, all this shadow pushing
only applies to people that cannot expose properly or shoot with the
lens cap on. The fact is that there is no banding, or noise in the
shadows unless you go to ridiculous extremes and the Canon market
numbers reinforce this since Canon is still the market leader. Canon
knows what it’s doing and knows what you need better than you do.
Well this cam may be well for you, but its predecessors were lousy for me on so many levels. The difference between a toy and a useful tool is made of many little things, the paper specs are just one of those many little things – and they are not so good either: poor burst, dreadful battery life, no real af, no radio flash, no lenses…
The bad usability is not in the specs, but it is going to be there, if the predecessors are anything to go by. The bad construction too.
What the hell is “270 sheets at the number of possible shots EVF use. LCD monitor when using 350 sheets”
Refresh rates?
Number of shots per battery charge?
Where is the A6000 focusing system? I thought there is only one complain to be had feature wise and it is AF.
Ok SSS is something vital I agree… AF is quite important too.
Anyway SSS and XAVC-S alone will not make me upgrade my A7
are you sure this isn’t the rumoured NEX-7 replacement? It seems unlikely that even Sony would upgrade the A7 so soon… It has happened before that your rmours have become mixed up with each other. I suspect the A9 and NEX-7 rumour have become confused…
There is no Nex7 replacement. Sony has ceased making lenses for their APS-C bodies because they want everyone to buy the A/7/7II/r/s/9 – see that? 5 different FE mount bodies. No room for APS-C anymore.
IBIS is great (I own EM1 and owned EM5 before it). I knew implementing IBIS requires space, hence 600 grams body. However, 600 grams….you are now close to latest full frame DSLRs that are 700+grams bodies. So the weight advantage is much less. The lenses is a wash, same size as full frame equivalents from other brand. So the weight advantage is less and less. Of course no DSLR has IBIS which is the real advantage. And of course no info if AF from A6000 had been implemented
No . Name me a FF with lowest weight.
ok, finally a dream is becoming true, E mount FF body with IBIS, however, I have one BIG question, how does IBIS work with OSS native E lenses????
5-Axis gets us closer to the A-Mount IS experience but we still need an improved LAEA adapter. C’mon Sony, you are so close to a proper A-Mount replacement.
A7II released officially !!
http://www.sony.jp/CorporateCruise/Press/201411/14-1120/
-That would be fantastic IF this sony a7ii also has:
a electronic or leaf shutter!
-In rangefinder style it would be perfect Sony!