The Fotodiox Tough full metal E-mount replacement is now on back order at Amazon (Click here to preorder) and BHphoto (Click here to preorder).
Fstopper tested the new Fotodiox mount and writes:
For me, the Tough E-Mount is a winner. I was easily able to fix a bothersome wiggle at home in less that five minutes. If the all-metal mount really does increase strength over Sony’s mount as Fotodiox claims, all the better; but not the reason that many are buying it for.
This is a must have item I am going to buy too 🙂 Get it at Amazon (Click here to preorder) and BHphoto (Click here to preorder).
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Sony has new mount. Wobble-E mount. New WE lenses coming soon. Hulk smash!
Better wobbly plastic mount on bodies, easy replaceble by a new plastic ring, than wobbly plastic mounts on lenses as the Canikon cheap lenses have.
In my opinion it is better to leave the plastic mount on the body, due to the fact we have metal mounts on all E-mount lenses. It is better to replace the plastic ring if it is necessary, than to wear the mount on the lens by metal to metal friction . I think this was the designer’s intention, not to harm the lens mount, not for economy. I switchde during 2 1/2 years often lenses on my NEX-7, I have a little play on the mount, but it is radial and not disturbing. The same lenses sit tight on my wife’s NEX-5T, camera that had max. 10 lens switches!
LE: In addition the small metal particles resulting from the wear can harm thr interior of the camera or the sensor. Take note that the new E-mount camcorders have an all-metal mount, but it is separated by a “window” from the inside of the camera.
The FE 35/2.8 has a plastic mount. Do I care … no. 😉
Most proper bodies have metal mounts. Not an issue. To the contrary, an indispensable advantage. Besides, the lens-to-mount contact area in the cameras in question is metal already.
…Then, there’s the A7s. Mind you, it’s a design based on the A7(r), improved upon the latter in the respect in question, namely – its mount is solid metal, too…
I don’t trust the flatness of the replacement metal ring
It has some barrel distortion.
I will get some as well when it is available. I hope Fotodiox ships directly from China soon.
if tough E mount is winner, sony wobble mount is loser. Smash!
Wiggle wiggle???? I have two A7 body’s with zero “wiggle”…….If somebody has this imaginary wiggle they should bring their camera back to the store for a fix under warranty!
This whole thing is bull….
If you change often lenses for more than two years, you will have some play in the plastic mount, and no warranty! But easily fixable with a new PLASTIC ring, not metal.
Who sells these plastic rings? Where is it available? Whether it is changed with the Fotodiox metal ring or the plastic ring, the risks involved are exactly the same.
Sony Service centers
LOL! Do you know the costs involved just for shipping back and forth?
No, I have Sony Service Center 500 yds from my home….
In Germany within warranty time zero cents.
Of you bring it back there then SAR cannot make money already
If someone starts noticing their camera mount wiggle, and not their GF wiggle wiggle, they have a much better problem on their hands
I had 2 nex and now a A7 and ALL suffer of rotational wiggling.And that fu**ing annoying when focussing with legacy lenses.
Hard to believe…..but if this is to be true just bring the camera’s back for a fix.
a7R with both LAEA (1 & 4) adapters are always losing connection, showing aperture as –. Take off, remount. They wobble rotationally and laterally on camera mount, yet the Alpha lenses fit super tight and smooth on adapter.
Now, attach a heavy L-grade telephoto lens to the camera, and let’s see how free of wobble the whole thing gets.
The female end (the furthermost end of the adapter that attaches to the lens, not the body) of my MetaBones adapter is perfectly flush with the lens (no wobble whatsoever). Not so the opposite end (i.e., the one that mounts onto the body): it does show some wobble, particularly with heavier lenses attached.
If the FotoDiox Tough E-Mount resolves this issue without compromising functionality or adversely affecting the optical input, then it’s a win/win situation. Less so when used with 200 gr. direct mount lenses, I imagine.
40$ for a metal ring?
Wait, it is special tough metal right?
I’d like to see before–after photos before I buy it. 🙂 Seriously, I should have started a snake oil business instead of learning something useful …
I though this replaces the ugly red ring. I guess not.
only A6000 has the sexy all black body including a black mount ring and a black hotshoe.
I’m still of the opinion that this makes pretty well zero difference to the image quality of the photo. After all, it’s the three leaf springs that hold the lens flush to the flange. I think this metal mount is just fractionally thicker and this means the leaf springs are squashed rather tighter against the lends bayonet.
It probably explains why the rotational “wobble” appears to go away. The extra friction stops the lens moving fractionally if manual focussing. After all, it’s the locating rod (which fits in the matching hole in the lens) which holds the lens in register.
As such, I think it’s a tactile thing (which is important to many photographers), but I don’t see it will make any difference to AF lenses. It also won’t change IQ as, after all, lenses are symmetrical around the central axis.
For what it’s worth, my A-Mount lenses all have a little rotational wobble, and that’s an all-metal mount. I suspect that it’s more a matter of how tight tolerances are than whether there’s a plastic shim between the back of the metal flange plate and the leaf spring.
nb. a tighter fit might lead to more wear on the lens mount of course.
Now we are going to be hearing about that “plastic issue” until kingdom come (same as what is happening with SLT “robbing light” and adapters “degrading quality”) all based on several years of plastic mounts without any evidence of a problem and the general misunderstanding of what plastic and metal are.
My LAEA (1 & 4) adapters are always losing connection, showing aperture as –. Take off, remount. They wobble on camera mount, yet the Alpha lenses fit super tight on adapter.
Hoping this mount replacement solves that. Wish they would finally ship the dang thing. Waiting for two weeks now.
Received two TOUGH E-Mounts from Fotodiox a couple of days ago (Friday Oct 31). Both are “version 2” of the mount (with “Tough E-Mount” printed on both sides). I installed one on my Sony NEX-6 and the other on my Sony A7R.
Performance is excellent with no wobble or play with either camera with the three adapters and one Sony lens that I use.
I have three Metabones Nikon to E-Mount adapters: One Ultra Speed Booster (MB_SPNFG-E-BM2) and two “regular” Nikon F to E-Mount adapters (MB_NF-E-BM2), one of which is new while the other is a couple of years old (same part # but the pins on the tripod mount are different). All of these Metabones units fit extremely well on the TOUGH E-MOUNT. They are nice and tight – absolutely no tilting or wobbling.
I have only one Sony E-Mount lens, the “kit” 16mm-50mm f3.5-5.6 OSS that came with my NEX-6. (Mostly I use one of my many Nikon lenses, old and new, with the adapters, on the NEX-6 and A7R.) The Sony “kit lens” fits fine on the TOUGH E-Mount, perhaps a little less tight than the Metabones adapters (i.e. requires slightly less force to “screw” on) but still no tilting or wobbling.
I even tried an extreme case – my Nikon 500mm mirror lens with all three adapters on both cameras. Solid as a rock!
I had been using various Nikon F bodies with Nikon lenses (AI, AIS, G-AFS) for over 50 years. These were always solid metal mounts with no wobble or play at all. When I switched to the Sony bodies, I was disappointed in the “plastic tab” mounts (NO, the plastic in the Sony E-mount is not just a spacer, the plastic is what holds the lens on the camera!) So, I am extremely pleased with this Fotodiox Sony E-Mount upgrade. It takes me back to the good old Nikon “built like a tank” days!
P.S. The Sony A7S camera comes OEM with a stainless steel lens mount very similar to this Fotodiox product (which I believe is chrome plated brass). Another reviewer on this site, Oleg M, has ordered one of these and it will be interesting to see how it compares. I believe it is about twice the price of the Fotodiox.
“NO, the plastic in the Sony E-mount is not just a spacer, the plastic is what holds the lens on the camera!”
Well said! Some try to spin it off as a “feature”!
Are you getting paid from Fotodiox? If something is not good on youre Nex just return it.
“Compatible Cameras
All Sony Alpha NEX E-mount Camera Bodies, Including:
Sony Alpha α7, α7r, a6000
Sony NEX-3, NEX-5, NEX-C3, NEX-5N, NEX-7, NEX-F3, NEX-5R, NEX-6
Sony NEX-VG10, NEX-VG20, NEX-VG30, NEX-VG900, NEX-FS100, NEX-FS700, NEX-EA50″
Wait… I didn’t know my NEX-3 needed upgrade few years ago!
How much did you make from selling these snake oil?
With regard to the fanboys, trolls, and other miscreants on this site, I recommend and I will follow the wise advice of Sir George Bernard Shaw: “Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”
Some interesting points of view on this, and I’m not sure which are correct, but this creates a perception of a need to improve some substantially priced equipment – really bad news for Sony’s image.
Got my Tough E-mount V2 yesterday and installed. Rotational wiggle is much less but still have a wobble which seems to stem from the entire mount chassis moving ever so slightly, like its loose from inside the camera body.
Also, this wobble is still there with the stock rings reinstalled. Must not have noticed it before, thinking it was just the slop in the mount.
Posted here along with an email straight to Fotodiox with no reply at all. Owell, sent my camera to sony to see what they will do and then maybe try the Tough mount again…..
Got my new ULDATA Konica AR – FE mount adapter yesterday. Zero wobble. The Fotodiox, the Fotasy, Kipon and 2 no name adapters (one of them the same as the Fotodiox) all have wobble or won’t reach infinity. If Fotodiox and others would make better fitting adapters a lot of problems could be solved. I can’t speak for heavy FE/E-mount native lenses though, no experience.