The following rumor is not coming from my trusted sources so just like the all other low ranked rumors take them with a grain of salt. The interesting part of the rumor is that it’s about the APS-C E-mount lens roadmap. Something that is highly needed! So let me know if that Fake or True roadmap would make you happy or not! The anonymous source said those are the lenses to be released in 2015:
25 f1.4
16-50 f2.8 – 4
50-150 f4-5.6
All those three lenses would be nice to have but I still miss a fast portrait lens. Hope that Sony will do that too! You can also discuss the lens roadmap on our SonyAlphaForum.
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Why should anyone wait for one of these three lenses, when there are already a 24/1.8, the 16-50
PZ and the 55-210 available?
This obviously is an SR0 rumor!
I agree for the 24 1.8 and 25 1.4. They are too close, I doubt that Sony release such a lens. However, a 16 50 f/2.8-4 would not be in the same league as a slow powerzoom…
The simple reasons are: IQ and apperture, both for the 25mm f1.4 lens (many people are complaining about the relatively slow appertures of the E-mount lenses) This lens would be great indoor win low light. It would make the AF better working in low light too.
The 16-50mm f2.8-f4 will be a better quality lens and will be larger and faster (and will cost about $1000 I guess) then the original kit lens.
The 50-150 lens can be smaller (as the largest focal length is smaller) the apperture is larger (5.6 instead of 6.3) and IQ can be better.
So reasons enough for some people to look for an other reason to bash Sony 😉
In the end : this is a sr2 rumor don’t forget that…
If the 25/1.4 has OSS the difference to the Zeiss 24/1.8 would be bigger, comparable to 25/1.2 or 25/1.0 (in low light, not DOF).
16-50 F2.8-4 would be great, when it comes in the same compact size like the “old” 16-50
The 16-50 F2.8-4 would be really great. 25mm 1.4 is nice, too, but probably a big lens
Admin
I am planning to purchase a Sima 150-600 sport now and do not know whether to get Nikon or Canon mount.
Will either of these be 100% compatable with the new Sony…or will Nikon release a camera with the new Sony supersensor at the same time as Sony does?
I need to make the purchase now but do not know what new camera wil be available to fit it. I have what I think is reliable info that the lens will never be made in Sony mount.
Nikon will not use the same Sony sensor of the new cam for a long time.
@Sar_Admin
Sony learned from 36MP fauxpas?
They make sensor for their own need now?
What will happen to Nikon? Getting the older sensors or what?
Give us a hint (at least) when its likely to see your detailed sr5 stuff on SAR.
This week, next or in 3+ weeks?
If we put pieces together:
– http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/big-sony-e-mount-announcement-in-late-january
– Earlier Admin said that rumor is published exactly 2 months earlier..
So it takes about 2 weeks before we see that SR5 rumor 😕
“serious new stuff”.
I’m thinking larger, more robust semi-pro/pro level E-mount bodies designed in part as DSLR replacements, especially with regards to ergonomics and handling.
After Sony showed those fairly large e-mount lenses at Photokina (e.g. 35/1.4, 90/2.8 Macro) and bearing in mind the already released 70-200/4, I think larger e-mount bodies are inevitable.
Creating bodies with better ergonomics, handling and more control is probably easy, but that would almost certainly mean larger bodies, thus negating all the size benefit E-mount cameras, which, among EVF, is their primary selling point.
And then there is the AF speed issue which needs major improvements to make it all-round viable and competitive system. A6000 AF is probably fastest among mirrorless and is enough to cover 90% of shooting scenarios, but it is no match to current high end DSLR(T)s designed for speed. Do not get fooled by the marketing or forum posts, just try A6000 side-by-side with A77II, D810/750 or 5D3/7D2.
Many seem to forget that all that IQ from sensor will not matter if you missed the moment because of start-up lag or failed focus. While this is not critical in studio or for landscapes or architecture, it is a big deal for sports, wildlife, action and events.
Will Sony be able to sort that AF out in next generation? I really hope so – EVF with fast and reliable AF and no IQ penalty would be better than anything else available right now and would be a major leap forward for the industry. Anyway, not too long until that “early 2015” where future is supposed to be revealed.
The primary selling point of E-mount is flexibility – which is not limited to just small bodies, but both small and large. It is a mistake to assume that just because NEX bodies started small then E-mount will be marketed as a small camera system for eternity.
AF has some catching up to do, no doubt, but it is developing at a fast rate. It is simply a matter of time.
Start-up lag is fixable and I actually find greater focus success on E-mount, certainly in terms of accuracy – no worries about front/back focus with on-sensor focusing.
That’s why I just picked up an A7- time to stop resisting. Although I think it’s future form will be a better compromise between a DSLR styled body than it is now. Sony will make these bodies bigger in the future, more features, better exterior build and more advanced AF. They stated just a month ago that AF was their primary focus in terms of technological advancements for their cameras. I think it’s clear where Sony is headed now.
Can’t agree with AF in A6000 not being a close match to current high end DSLR. I think that myth has been debunked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up8K_xd_iwU&list=PLiXUulBBkNvHyKmWDiPkFfRyxNZparnP9
The overall AF deficiency is well overstated. Point is, you can shoot sports, wildlife, action, etc. very well in fact with mirror less cameras these days.
I agree with Lotus Eater as well- I think the Next A7 will be larger, but still compact, more XT-1 type build if you will. Dual card slots? I hope so.
Will the new Sony camera have fast autofocus compatability with either of these mounts?
NO, IT’S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN SO FIND A NEW IDIOTIC DETAIL TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. Go buy a Nikon or Canon and be gone.
Does this mean that big is really BIG, medium format curved sensor?
An interesting comment, either an exclusive sensor to be used in only Sony cameras or as previously mentioned a MF sensor. Will you be putting us out of our misey in 2 to 3 weeks time???
“Will either of these be 100% compatable with the new Sony”.
“Will the new Sony camera have fast autofocus compatability with either of these mounts?”
It completely boggles my mind how you think Sony would or could make its cameras fully compatible with another company’s lenses. It isn’t going to happen.
Candiru.
I’ll refer you to my answer above, Walter.
And I’ll refer you to look up Candiru so you can read about yourself.
Fish can’t post on the internet.
You can deny it it all you want but you are the totally a Candiru.
Ateacted to pi$$ and since you are such a small fish you swimm up the p*n¡$ and permenently attach yourself.
Well aren’t you just charming.
Just describing what Candirus like you do.
I have the Sigma 50-500 with LA-EA2 adapter. It’s quite fast with my a6000 and my NEX-7, but I never used it for sports photography. Maybe it’s too slow (4.5-6.3) for that.
A 150-600 with Canon or Nikon mount isn’t going to work with an LA-EA adapter.
Barry is fantasizing about a Sony camera with Canikon adapters that allow full electronic protocol communication and full speed AF. Unfortunately, that is exactly what it is, a fantasy.
Yep – never going to happen. Sony won’t make a multi mount body because: (i) inevitable legal proceedings from Canon, Nikon et al; and (ii) they’re trying to sell their own lenses. Best you could hope for is Sigma designing their own adapter but even then you’re looking at the inevitable inherent af compromises.
Change you screename to Candiru.
F**k off, Barry. Change your name to Walter Mitty.
Time for you to grow up. Not everybody will agree with you on a forum, and some (or many) people will see your ideas as ridiculous and will tell you exactly that.
F**k off yourself
Your a misirable Candiru who has attached himself to me two years ago and wont let go.
Walter, that isn’t true. You can’t attach yourself to somebody on the internet.
(SR5) Sony lenses in 2015
APSC E 70-300mm F4 OSS
APSC E 90mm F1.4 zeiss
FE 24-240 F3.5-6.3
FE 90mm G F2.8
FE 35mm F1.4 Zeiss
FE 20mm F2
FE 24-70 F2.8 G
FE 16-35 F2.8 G
yup i confirm this but one typo 28 f2 fe mont not 20 f2….(but this one would be nice too ;))
25mm 1.4 equals 37,5mm f 2.1. and 24mm 1.8 equals 36mm f2.7. DOF-wise, the new lens, if it will ever exist, will give some more freedom. I guess they want to beat the fuji 23mm 1.4 if this is true.
Admin, if you have 100% reliable SR5 rumours, why not post them now? Surely you can post the additional stuff later on when you get it.
+1 trillion 😉
He is alway vague and if you ask him about the timeline also.
But i guess thats hyping for more hits on his site, so his return from ads are higher.
We have to live with it. 😉
+1, can’t wait
Not really confincing. IMHO the E-Mount APS-C Lens Range is mostly complete especially including Third Party Lenses. Beyond 50mm ƒ/1.8 there’s only a complete gap on fast telephoto lenses, one has got to adapt from other mount systems but lacking fast AF necessary e.g. for sports photography.
Something I’d really love to buy as APS-C E-Mount with AF is a fast short telephoto lens like 90mm ƒ/2.0 or even 100mm ƒ/2.8 and I’m hoping on Sigma here (thinking about their great 60mm ƒ/2.8).
Remember there’s a 90/2.8 on the way…
I would buy a 16-50 f2.8 OSS and 50-135 f2.8 OSS for e-mount aps-c cameras…but these suggestions? nah. I would prefer a 85mm f1.8 for APS-C E-Mount too rather than a 25mm f1.4 since it’s closer to the 24mm f1.8
Fast portrait already exists. It’s called the 55mm f/1.8. Stop craving for more gear and start taking photos.
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Hope that Sony will do that too! You can also discuss the lens roadmap on our SonyAlphaForum.”
There is something unique about the format here (SAR) that is absent in any forum (dime a dozen0. I would suggest that you keep this alive.
Would Sony have any answers to Samsung’s NX1 soon?
When will Samsung have answers to the RX100, A6000, A7, A7R, A7S, RX1, A99, FS7, RX10, AX100 etc etc?
I don’t care.
It is BSI or bust.
The most advanced sensor comes from Samsung and not Sony.
Do we have any proof that this sensor is any good allready? Samsung did some bold claims in the past too. NOt one came out.
Will 28MP BSI realy be better then 24MP noemal sensor? We have to wait and see.
Do I really care if the NX1 is any better? No. It has the wrong mount. 🙁
The point is that they are the first to come up with a large BSI sensor camera.
I hope that drives Sony to act just like the first Samsung NX did!
12mm or even 14mm pancake would be a nice addition to match with the small sized A5000 / A5100…
An always-with-me lense that no other manufacturer offers…
Damn all those other cameras with UWA pancakes!
12 or 14 mm lens will be bigger than 20 mm. 20/2.8 is the smallest for E-Mount and will be so. It is interresting to see an ultrawide 20/4 FE pancake.
A big YES to the 25mm f1.4 (though 26.5mm would be preferred)!
Another 24mm? 24/1.8 Zeiss is perfect. Hope this is a fake rumor and Sony listen to many users request. I would like Sony to keep lenses small, look at the new 35/1.4 ZA for A7/7r – it’s a monster, and does not make any sens to put on mirrowless for me. Sony give us these – and still small – primes for APS-C:
35/1.8 ZA
16/2 ZA
90/2 ZA
It is a fake rumor or no rumor.
Seems like another post to drum up support for a forum.
I wait for 25/1.4 OSS. 35 mm on APS-C is not wide enough. 35/1.8 OSS is great, but I need wider lens.
Agree with 16/2: 20/2.8 is good, but, again, I need wider and faster. Maybe not a pancake (and not a long tube, of course 🙂 ), just a good lens.
What would be the point of longer FL APS-C lenses, I mean other than to appease idiots on the Internet?
True that. A FF 50-150 would be similar of size, weight and cost (of production) price. That’s the weakest link of the rumor.
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj524/picrumors/picrumors001/a7_naked_zpsbe60fa96.jpg
I am now 100% sure that Sony has a big E-mount announcement planned for End January. And I have been told by many of my best sources that there will be “serious” new stuff. I am trying to get some info on them now… MirrorlessRumor
It’ll be pro e-mount, given that they’ve just announced their pro support package… Good call though – FE is what it is took to get the pros biting.
PLEASE introduce higher quality lenses. Hopefully that 16-50 f2.8-4 is going to be good…
Right now almost every competing E Lenses are worse than A Lenses.
The 55/1.8 and 35/2.8 wipe the floor compared to the a-mount versions. The 70-200 and 16-35 are very competitive too… The only FE lenses that don’t compare so well are the 24-70 and 28-70.
Which lenses are you referring and comparing to? Please could you post some of your comparisons?
The 10-18, Good lens, but comes with a steep price, And if it stays $800 the Canon 10-18 or heck even the Tokina 11-16 looks a lot better
Both Old and new kit lenses, the 18-55 and the 16-50 are not nice lenses at all, the 18-55 and the 18-135 on A-Mount are better. Let alone the 16-50 f/2.8
That’s why I’m hoping that (if true) the new 16-50 is going to be good.
The 35mm f/1.8, it’s a good lens but it’s too steep. Other lenses this class are around $250 while this one is $450, being the standard prime of APSCs.
Lack of ‘all in one lens’. While not a big deal, I like to have 18-135 or 16-105 which is not available or too expensive.
No ‘Walkaround’ Potrait lens such as the 85mm f/2.8. Yes 50mm is good but it’s not the best experience using it solely for potraits
And for FE I don’t think there is any comment needed.
Yes, my bad, I was probably having a headache when I wrote that comment. I was supposed to be saying ‘better priced lenses’ instead of ‘higher quality lenses’.
“Both Old and new kit lenses, the 18-55 and the 16-50 are not nice lenses at all”.
Don’t agree with that. I’ve owned both and both were capable of decent results. The worst thing about the 16-50 is the powerzoom – horrible for stills. Can’t comment on the 18-135, but there is nothing special about the 18-55 over the E18-55.
The 16-50mm is a whole different ball game, as it’s priced much higher than any of those other lenses, but even that isn’t perfect. Not particularly great at wide angle or wide open – some of the problems seem to be down to field curvature.
“The 35mm f/1.8, it’s a good lens but it’s too steep.”
Yep, I’ll give you that, not sure why this is price so high. Way more expensive than the A-mount 35/1.8 which is superb optically (but the build quality and SAM motor noise is just awful, so that accounts for some price difference).
“And for FE I don’t think there is any comment needed.”
Not sure what you mean by this.
OK I agree with the kit lenses, they aren’t a nice comparision.
I wouldn’t mind the Motor, but It would be nice if they’d improve it (but it seems impossible). Despise the motor quality I don’t think it’s a big deal for the type of the lens. The $250 more price tag honestly does not bring you much In my honest opinion. And I won’t start comparing to Nikon or Canon 35mm f/1.8…
The lens count is actually countable by finger in the FE ecosystem (apart from the Loxias, Mitakon and Rokinons, and yes I really do count) so I don’t think there is any comment needed on that.
How about the lack of ‘all in one’ lens and ‘walkaround + potrait’ lens? Also some nice Macro lenses (The 30mm f/2.8 was decent). I too was disappointed on why did Zeiss failed to introduce fast wide angle lens like the A-Mount Zeiss 16-35 f/2.8? They’ve just introduced the 16-35 F4 which is 1 stop slower…
And many more I think…
Bullshit
And no, other dslr lenses are also not better in average than Sony e-mount lenses. Maybe more but more is not better if you only own 5
Can they dun waste time with a 50-150 lenses?
still waiting for 70-300. Classic telezoom. Yes it is bigger lens but i need it for a6000.
I agree. Give us a 70-300 f/4-f/5.6 for $600-800 without too much weight, and all the BIF and sports enthusiasts will be opening their wallets. I agree that the a6000 with that lens would be super.
I just love how they’ve managed NOT releasing a good fast portrait lens in ANY of the four mounts, apart from the Zeiss 85/1.4.
how about 135/1.8 A mount??
and how about the 50/1.8: on APSC its effectively a nice cheap portrait lens
the same with 55/1.8…makes a great portrait lens on APSC
what is missing is the FE portrait lens, well..we will probably see a few more 35mm lens before well finally get one…
Yeah, I forgot about the 135/1.8.
But if you call 55/1.8 a fast portrait lens in aps-c, then so is the SAL-85/2.8 for full frame. I own the 85/2.8 and it’s a magnificent lens but it’s not a fast lens by any means (light gathering, DOF).
Canon and Nikon both have a solution for their full frame systems, so does Fuji with their 56/1.2 on aps-c (85/1.8 on FF). Olympus probably has several alternatives. I remember a 75/1.4 (150/2.8, not bad eh?) but can’t quote their product line from the top of my head.
There are just 2 mounts covering both APS-C and FF formats for A and E bodies.
And the 55 CZ, 50 CZ, 85 CZ, 135 CZ and 135 STF are all good portrait lenses. A good FF (thus covering APS-C too) 85mm f/1.8 for the E mount is the largest omission for certain portrait purposes.
50 CZ and 55 CZ are both very good lenses and are indeed suitable for portrait photography but for some particular compositions, they simply fall too short. 85 CZ, 135 CZ & STF are all magnificent lenses, despite the fact that they’re too expensive and out of reach for many people.
Also I stated 4 mounts because there are many people investing in APS-C cameras and lenses and they are people too.
Your statement is self contradictory and makes little sense, do you really need a super fast 85mm lens on an APS-C mount to take portraits?
The favorite portrait focal lengths for me are 85 (1.4-1.8), 135 (2-2.8) and 200 (2.8). Most of our photos are at 200mm and most photographers websites I frequently look at use these FL, too. Others have different taste, but it seems that a lot of people like those. Why not producing a nice 85/1.4 FE lens, suitable to be used on FF AND APSC?
Why waste time designing an 85mm when you almost exclusively use 200mm for portraits. (the argument gets even more convoluted)
200mm F1.2 no doubt.
The longer, the better. But on APSC you get a 135/2.1 equivalent, which is great. If Nikon had a better 135/2, my wife and I would leave the 70-200 at home, since the background drops nicely out of focus at this f-stop (tried it with the Zeiss 135/2, which is too expensive and manual focus only). So the effect I want is better replicated at 200/2.8. Sony’s 135/1.8 seems to be great, too. But I don’t want to switch to A-mount for one lens only and not knowing what happens to the A-mount in the future.
You can’t always use the 200mm in real world. Surely it works in the studio and in the open field, where you have either a controlled backdrop or a large field so that you can back up a bit but inside buildings and even in some streets, 200mm is way, way too long.
Why wouldn’t I have one? Imagine I don’t have the money for a full fledged FF system and high-end lenses. I want to have the perspective and the DOF of a 85/2 or a 135/2.8 lens and I need to do this within a budget. I’d prefer the AF.
-If I were shooting Canon, I could buy the 85/1.8 (135/2.8 on FF) and shoot portraits.
-If I were shooting Nikon, I could buy the 85/1.8 and shoot portraits.
-If I were shooting Fuji, I could buy the 56/1.2 (85/1.8 on FF) or wait for the 90/2 (135/3) and shoot portraits.
Apart from third party adapters and focusing manually, the only way to do this with Sony is to buy a A99/A7 and any of the Zeiss’ or the STF. The cheapest one of these lenses is the STF, 1400$, still with manual focus.
I could get a body from either Nikon, Canon or Fuji and one of the lenses that I’ve mentioned for that amount, possibly with some change left.
Btw, I just took a break from a shoot in which I’m using the SAL-85/2.8. Might be the most underrated lens in Sony’s lineup.
“Btw, I just took a break from a shoot in which I’m using the SAL-85/2.8. Might be the most underrated lens in Sony’s lineup.”
Oh but that would be way too slow for for you wouldn’t it?
I’m not shooting portraits.
How do the 50CZ and 55CZ compare to each other?
this almost confirm the A7000 coming very soon, maybe with a new kit lens = 16-50 F2.8-4.0, I rather would have a new weather sealed 16-70 F4 , no rumor about that ????
there will be no a7000 next year.
There is no spoon.
Candirus dont need spoons.
LOL?
because no one else will
Talk about the Candiru calling the urethra black….
But I don’t up vote my own posts, Walter. You do.
You are so narcissistic and desperate for attention that you are forced to pat yourself on the back, because nobody else will.
You are just a tiny pathetic slimy parasitic little fish with no redeeming qualities..your only mission in life is to follow the smell of pi$$ and attach yourself.
Once there you dig in your tiny little spines and cannot be dislodged
There is no creature on earth more hated than the Candiru..the Amazon Candiru can be be removed only by surgery…
You unfortanately cannot even be removed by surgery.
You are the true Candiru of SAR…a disgusting little parasite in every sense of tihe word.
What has to be much worse is life for those around you in real life that have to live with such a vile creature as yourself…I feel truly sorry for your family.
Grow up, Barry. You’re not behaving like an adult.
Your identity is freely available online. Think of your reputation and also be very careful of making inappropriate and libellous comments against others.
Involving my family in any issues you have with me is crossing the line. Your behaviour is appalling.
How can you possibly critisize anyone for making innapropriate and libellous statements.
My responses to you are a direct response to your own umprovoked and libellous attacks on me…if you dont want to hear my comments then stop responding to me.
As for your family..you yourself brought that up in a discracefull attempt on your part to insult me by comparing me to your own son..saying that even your 6 year old son could come up with a better insult than me…Im sure you are training him very well in the art of insulting people.
You are in every sense a slimy disgusting little Candiru…it is not your family I am insulting it is you I am insulting…your family I feel sorry for…I would not wish you on anyone.
If you don’t want to hear my insults then just stop responding to me and they will stop…but Candirus cannot stop..it is thier very nature..and they cannot let go..
I have every right to disagree with you on a public forum – that is not libellous. I will continue to post when I disagree with you.
I’m not really sure what triggered such vitriol from you, but your responses over the last couple of days have been disgraceful and are tantamount to bullying.
You do not know me or my son, and my comment about my son (weeks ago) was an analogy, not a true reflection of reality, which you either do not seem to understand the concept of, or you are deliberately ignoring in order to make me to appear to be doing something I am not.
You may choose to continue in your campaign against me (apparently one of your many campaigns), but please be aware of the consequences of your actions.
You cannot bully somebody so that they no longer disagree with you.
If you continue to insult me I will continue to insult you.
If your insults continue so will mine…
If you legitamately dissagree keep it civil, confined to the issues and non insulting…if you do otherwise so will I
Please note..I am not campaigning against you merely responding to your comments…every single exchange we have is initiated by you..not me..
If you do not want it to continue you merely need to stop…Its totally your own choice.
You cannot accuse me of bullying as I have NEVER initiated a single confrontation with you.
I need to stop what, Barry? You are edging closer and closer towards blackmail here. You need to be very careful what you say.
Attempting to stop somebody disagreeing with you by making slurs and inappropriate comments is bullying. Whether or not I initiated a response from you by replying to one of your comments is completely irrelevant.
Candiru!
Right, so we’re back to the playground, are we?
Maybe you could answer my question like an adult would. What do I need to stop?
I notice you deleted your slur against me and my family. Interesting.
Well, some miracles happens, you never now do we !!!
Well the 24mm Zeiss starts aging… it doesn’t enter a jacket pocket anyway, so yes f/1.4 would be better !
Why doesn’t Sony try to release this “big” thing they are working on before the holidays? It seems they would sell more
This service should be renamed into SonyEmountRumors
Why? Sony did all the renaming already…
Sony Alpha is an A-mount & E-mount cameras, but this website is almost about E-mount.
All the action is E mount these days, so all the rumour coverage is going to be E mount.
new e-mount camera are alpha series…. so 😉
E-mount cameras have always been Alpha.
Sony said before,
“We have only one system called Alpha system, E-mount is Alpha system,
We are fully support A-mount, You can use all A-mount lens in E-mount camera though adapter.”
Sony desperately needs longer lenses for e-mount. 70-300, 300 f.4.0 or 70-400. Samsung´s pulling out a 300 f/2.8 for NX1. What´s taking Sony so long?
Seriously! Now that Fuji and Samsung have their 70-200mm APSC equivalents, if Sony is really going to release a proper NEX7 replacement with the A7000 and with some pros using the A6000 as a backup or as a portable option, it makes perfect sense to me, for Sony to make the investment like this kind of lens for their APSC bodies. I love the A7 body and feature set, but I’m not so sure I’m interested in going FF.
Sony cameras tend to have excellent, and beefy grips too compared to their competition, so in terms of handling, I can’t see how a larger, telephoto lens would be a disadvantage.
I´m not sure how we disagree, Ben. Or if indeed we disagree at all. At the moment I´m also only focused on APSC bodies too and I would love to see an even better a6000 – ie a7000. But if Sony dosn´t come out with a APSC tele soon I don´t think I´ll stick around much as I´m otherwise happy with my Sony cameras. A small, light and portable camera is actually perfect for BIFs and wildlife photography which is my area but maybe Sony just didn´t intend it to be. Or hasn´t yet seen the possibilities.
“All those three lenses would be nice to have but I still miss a fast portrait lens.”
The Sony Zeiss FE 55mm f/1.8 is a fantastic lens for portraits on APS-C. If your budget won’t allow for it, the Sony E 50mm f/1.8 is also a great budget alternative. Am I missing something here?
It is much more pleasant to shoot a portrait with longer lenses for both the person in front and behind the camera, because you can keep a comfortable distance. With a 50mm lens you have to get very close to make a portrait and not everyone likes that and it is not always possible to get that close either. I would love to get a 90mm portrait lens or longer.
I”m a huge fan of the 135mm 1.8 at weddings. Even better, slap it on an APSC and you’ve got yourself about a 200mm. It’s fantastic either way if the venue gives you enough space to work with it.
If you’re uncomfortable that’s something you have to work on, not buy more gear so you don’t have to contend with your fears.
I am not uncomfortable in any way, but I have noticed some of the people in front of the camera are not always that fond of getting a lens shoved up their face. And like I said it is not always possibe to get that close to the person you want to do a portrait shot of either. Last but not least, to me portraits are more pleasing to look at when shot with longer lenses.
Agreed. There is a range of focal lengths that are nice for portraits. My point was there are lenses already available that can serve that purpose, even if they are not exactly your preferred focal length.
The FE55 on APS-C duplicates the FoV of an 85 on FF, it’s very well suited to portraiture.
And 85/90 would still be nice as a ~135 equivalent
Which new challenges could Sony be thinking of to progress again in new APS-C E- mount technology like they did afready many times in the past ? and what could really technologically be possible ?? BSI sensor , like the new Samsung NX1 !!!! or even Feveon sensor !!! or IBIS on E-mount camera !!! curved sensor !!!! what do you think is possible ?
It is not about what is possible but what do we realy need.
Do we realy need 24MP? And what about 28 or even 32MP on an APS sensor, what lens will be good enough to make use of the extra pixels, or will only be Sandisk the winner?
I believe this is a picture of a nex-7 above. Anyone try this in comparison to…say…an olympus OMD of sorts? I’m starting to wonder if I should have just bought one. They make speedboosters for A to E mount, which is awesome. I also hear the tri nav thing works quite well.
Any RX20 news yet?
Yes. What about it admin?
I can’t believe Sony leaves the field for FZ1000 in the holidays. FZ1000 sells like hot cakes where I live.
What about a 12mm f/2.0 OSS and a 150-500mm f/5.6-6.3 OSS lens to compete samyang and sigma ones?
BTW for portrait lens the 50mm f/1.8 and 55mm few lenses are good enough, I rather need long range and landscape lenses at sigma price;)
Who needs a 12mm F2 with oss? and a huge 150-500 on a little mirrorless? Those two might be the last lenses we will ever see… 😉
I’d take a 150-600 on a a6000. Why not?
Money and weight.
12/2 oss to shoot in the darkness 😀
The only 12mm f2 lens I found is for M43 (that is 16mm f2.8 on APS we allready have that lens), don’t think this will ever happen.
the lng zoom is a specialized lens, will not come soon to the E-mount. Sony don’t have such a lens for the A-mount either. But who knows when demand is high, but it will be a expensive FF lens.
You know there is the Rokinon 12mm f/2 lens that has been available for 6 months now, right? It doesn’t have autofocus, but I leave mine set at infinity and have taken some wonderful photos with it. Not only is it faster than the Sony and Zeiss offerings, the Rokinon at f/2.0 is sharper than the Zeiss 12mm at f/2.8. I don’t know why you’d need OSS on a 12mm f/2.0. The Rokinon is not stabilized, and you can easily shoot it handheld at 1/15 or 1/20.
Any rumors on A-Mount lens roadmap or February announcements?
I remember one guy laughed about e-mount cameras which requested lots if adapters to use other lenses!!! What s funny is that this feature gives sony e mount camera owners unlimited access to different manufacturers lenses;)..
However why are A mount owners needing more lenses from Sony when many are available and new are often released by other manufacturers? The one which can request more lenses are e mount owners to not need any more adapters
E-Mount is pretty much limited to native lenses
A6000’s fast AF doesn’t work with adapters
This ‘access to all kinds of lenses’ is a myth, what good is a lens if you’re limited to MF?
When you use WA lenses (from Fisheye up to 16mm or so, you hardly have to focus, so for those lenses there is no problem.
Leica owners are used to MF even with the latest rangefinder cameras, you never hear them complain.
Everybody was MF befor Minolta came with the Autofocussing cameras. Nobody did complain.
Now many people are using the E-mount cameras only as a digital back for their old lenses, no AF, but beautifull pictures…
The fact that you don’t like manual focus makes manual focus not a bad thing, or a thing that is useless.
People used to shoot film too, would you buy a film camera now?
Why live in the past and limit yourself to MF with the current amazing AF technologies? You paid for those when you bought the body anyway.
Regardless, if MF is so useful, then ian_toni’s point is all the more moot; in this case, one can say that E-Mount already has all kinds of lenses, unlike A-Mount.
Photography is sometimes an art. With any medium, there are limitations and obstacles. When it comes to problem solving, I think there are two ways: either use brute force to go through your obstacle or cleverly navigate your way around the problem. In other words, you can rely on AF to get the subject for you or you can work around it. Neither approach is wrong or better. They’re just different and will yield different results.
There is no doubt that being able to use modern AF systems is a plus but it isn’t vital to photography. Not even sports or wildlife requires it. It’s helpful but not necessary. Until AF can read my mind, there will always be situations where MF is better.
If AF was so good, manufacturers wouldn’t bother making lenses capable of MF and that’s the difference between film vs. digital and MF vs AF.
Focus is pretty fast with the LA-EA4 adapter…
ian_toni was talking about lenses from other manufacturers.
finally, some good sign coming
my guess the ‘big’ is:
– a mount bodies (like a7 series)
– 1-2 (tele) a-mount lens
– new FF E-mount bodies (a7000+a9) (FE body wil not be a surprise, as there are continus news from all kinds of interview/rumors about it)
I would actually be very interested if Sony came out with super compact A mount body. Is that even possible? I suppose it’d have to be deeper than an A7 to accommodate the flange distance, but otherwise, mirrorless A mount? I’m game. It’d mean no more guessing and waiting for what Sony might bring out next and try to see if they fill that void you still have in your lens collection. I hate that with being an E mount shooter. I’ve been holding out for a telephoto prime forever!
16-50 f2.8 – 4
This would be very nice to have if it is sharp wide open & less than $600
50-150 f4-5.6
I don’t know why Sony would even bother to think about this. They should make a 55-300 F4-5.6 like on the A Mount
33-150 would be cool
50-150 is too much duplication of 55-210 (has meaning only if it’s super compact)
I doubt it could be super compact given the 150 end. And yeah, f/4-f/5.6 only slightly improves on the 55-210’s f/4-f/6.3. If it were a constant f/3.5 50-150 it’d be quite useful though. For wider FLs you can “zoom by foot,” but not for telephoto.
Well, it can! compared to the already large 55-210
sometimes (or, more likely, often) a wall does not allow to “zoom by foot”
Yawwn, puny lenses inbound.
The 16-50 would be nice, assuming it’s a high-quality lens. The kit 16-50 sucks with the level of distortion (though overall optical quality actually isn’t bad), and I think that power zoom feature sucks more battery power out of the camera, which I could do without. It’d be nice to have a faster, higher-quality option in that focal range.
is this the same SR5 rumor you have been teasing for months?
I seriously hope Sony brings out some faster and higher end options for APSC. Yes, we can mount FE lenses on, but they’d also be larger than APSC specific variants. I’m seriously considering the XT1 these days as my upgrade from my NEX 5n since I feel sticking with Sony means I have to jump to FF to get a higher end body. I’m definitely interested in the A7000 rumors, and I have no doubt that model would satisfy me for years to come, but if there aren’t lenses to go along with it to reply show off the sensor’s capabilities, it’s almost no use to me then. I am considering those Loxia lenses though as they seem to be small yet high quality options I could use.
Hard to wait, but I feel once Jan/Feb rolls around, we’ll all start to get some answers about where Sony is heading with APSC.
My guess — Nowhere, just like Canon and Nikon.
Yeah. It’s already been weeks since Canon released the 7DII, and no new APS-C models since then!!! They’ve practically abandoned APS-C.
Not to forget all those updated STM versions of existing EF-S lenses, plus new pancake EF-S models, and Sigma and Tamron APS-specific lenses.
Yup. Nowhere.
Yes, nowhere. Almost none of those EF-S lenses have both high optical quality AND good build quality. No one uses your 55-250 STM on a 7DII because people who actually buy the 7DII know better. They will stick to FF lenses, not because they want but rather because they don’t have any other choice.
My 55-250 STM??? I don’t own one, nor do I make them.
But, my point, which is correct, is that APS-C for Canon and Nikon is far from going nowhere. In fact, their APS-C models make up the majority of their sales. So, to say they are heading nowhere with APS-C is simply ludicrous.
And, they, along with Sigma and Tamron, are making plenty of lenses for APS-C, including newly introduced models.
That Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 DC (DC=APS-C) sure is a piece of crap though, ain’t it?
50-150 what is that for?
for those that want a 70-200 equivalent in ff
2015 going to come in like a lion.
http://photorumors.com/2014/11/09/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-and-1d-x-mark-ii-cameras-rumored-for-early-2015-release/#comments
Not even an SR1 about a 90mm f/1.8.
Samsung has an 85mm 1.4 lens!! http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/06/is-lens-alone-enough-reason-to-get-into.html Samsung, the new kid on the block, has delivered a lens that Sony and/or Fuji hasn’t bothered to give us.
Fuji has a 90/2 on the map and they have a 56/1.2 too. Actually, they have two of them. Samsung had it since day one, I guess.
Even the A-mount doesn’t have neither of such. I’m not counting 1500$+ Zeiss lenses.
I really don’t understand the obsession with super wide aperture lenses. There is so much effort going into developing better focusing systems yet users want most of their image to be out of focus.
The depth of field wider than 2.8 is too thin to be practical for most subjects. A MF lens will do just fine, since most situations where wide aperture is useful doesn’t require fast AF (e.g. video, portraits, cats, hipster stuff).
What I mean in the last part is that you can get a cheap and compact MF lens at f/1.8 or f/1.4 and not have to pay $$$ for the same thing in a native mount.
Because the old cheap MF lenses are not really that good and it’s nice to have AF.
Whether everyone personally needs AF and OS or not, I agree with you that for sheer completeness sake Sony should release a 85 f/1.8 equivalent. And if possible a 18/1.8 also. That’d complete the APSC set up. That said, if you can deal with MF, there’re many good and relatively cheap choices. Nikon 85/1.8 for one, and Summicron-R 90 is also not that expensive.
Lighter and smaller, there’s the Voigtlander 75/1.8.
I don’t want an 85mm equivalent. What I want is a 135mm equivalent, which just happens to be a 90mm lens (which is what I’m asking for) on a 1.5 crop camera.
No. We use our lenses at 1.4 and 1.8 all the time on FF for portraits.
A mount certainly does.
And the ZA 85/1.4 is quite reasonably priced for a 1st party 85/1.4. It’s about the same as the Nikkor and less than Canon’s 85/1.2L. Good, fast 85’s cost money.
The Samsung is a steal though, but it’s half the cost of any other 1st party high-speed 85.
Sony’s been kind and instead of selling a $500 85/1.8 that’s a decent performer, they sell a close-focusing 85/2.8 for $300 that’s outstanding (seriously, wide open it’s sharper than those fast lenses stopped down to f2.8, aside from the Otus of course)
I actually bought it brand new for 160$, there was a deal going on. Even if it was 300$, it’d still be a good deal.
Samyang has a cheap 85/1.4 which is sharp as CaNikon’s f/1.8 offers but I find its character bone ugly.
I’m curious: do people really want an 85mm lens, or do they just want an 85mm FF equivalent? Because if it’s the latter, one could just buy the FE 55mm f/1.8, which is just shy of 85mm equivalence at 82.5mm. That’s why Fuji released the 56mm f/1.2, to get that 85mm equivalence on their crop sensors; and everyone raves about that lens. The Sony is about $100 more than the Fuji, but it’s been rated as one of the best AF lenses ever tested (by DxO), and this lens will be compatible on your FF e-mount camera should you later upgrade (though will be a “normal” lens on that, obviously).
Of course, if you’re looking to get closer to that 135mm equivalence, then yeah, an actual 85mm is a gaping hole at the moment. You’d think they’d be releasing one of those as FE for the FF shooters anyway; kind of surprised they haven’t addressed that very common need yet, since it’s one of the most commonly used focal lengths for portrait shooters.
I’ve I hear the word equivalency one more time I’ll puke. What I want is a 90mm F/1.8 (= 135mm Full Frame). If I wanted a 56.67mm lens (= 85mm FF) I’d have asked for it.
The reason I don’t have a Fuji camera is their lack of a 90mm lens. Their 56mm f/1.2 is too effing wide for how I work.
A 135mm f/2 is a common lens for a full frame shooter. Canikon APS-C/DX shooters have 85mm f/1.4 or f/1.8 lenses available. The only Mirroeless DX 85mm comes from Samsung. Which was why I mentioned it in my original post.
Is there a reason you can’t answer without being hostile? Do you talk this way with people face-to-face? Switch to decaf, man.
Still need an 85mm f/1.8, ~100mm macro, and something that can hit 300mm on the long end.
Have you ever actually shot an 85mm f1.8 on an APS-C or FF? What did you shoot with it that used that f1.8 aperture?
I own lots of fast glass: 85mm f1.2L (Canon FD), 80mm f1.8 (Mamiya), 85mm f2 (Nikkor), 90mm f2.8 Tele-Elmarit M (Leitz), 105mm f2.5 (Nikkor)
When filling a frame with a head, you need to stop down to at least f4 to get both eyes close to in focus. So why pay for faster? My f1.2L has a 72mm front element and weighs a ton.
There’s a ton of MF glass available up to 300mm, and it’s cheap at useable apertures. Of course, if you want a 300mm f2.8, both Nikon and Canon offer them in the $3000-5000 range.
Some indoor sports, some photojournalism. But less useful than most proponents with no pro experience recognize.
Thankfully, Sony seems to ignore such narrow interests and keeps in mind the mass market.
I’m happy with an 85mm 2.8, IF it can provide a sharp image wide open.
And, FYI, I’m familiar with DOF, so I don’t need a lesson.
I’m not interested in a ton of legacy MF glass for my APSC e-mount. I am interested in native OSS and AF lenses, of which Sony has a number of huge holes.
I also never said anything about a FAST 300mm. 70-300mm 5.6/6.3 zooms are ubiquitous in the DSLR world, and are sorely missing in APSC e-mount. 300mm at smaller apertures works quite well for outdoor nature and birding, which the APSC-sized sensor is so well-suited for, with its 1.5x FL eq.
There is nothing “narrow” in an interest of 85mm, 100mm Macro, and xx-300mm zoom for APSC e-mount. These ARE mass market items.
Canon, Nikon, Pentax, and even Sony itself, manages to make a number of medium-priced lenses for the DSLR mass market, most of which are lacking for the APSC e-mount. Sony needs to step up, and start providing similar products.
Perhaps they can look to their partner, Olympus, for some help in this area. They are quite good at it.
Sony can continue collaborate with Zeiss for the expensive and heavy FE mount lenses that hold no interest for the millions of APSC e-mount owners out there.
I’d like to know if Sony will be releasing a higher end APS-C body. I shed my Canon to get the a6000 this month but if something better is coming soon, I want to know now before I make the purchase. Please, admin, share the rumors. This is a rumors focused forum anyway, right!?
After switching to Sony, you will soon learn that there is always another E-mount body just around the corner.
If there is a higher end APS-C body coming, it will probably launch at nearly double the current A6000 price.
I’m considering the A6000 for myself soon, as the price is great for what it does. I’ll probably be interested in the higher end body when/if it appears, but that doesn’t put me off buying the A6000 now.
Yeah I might get it anyway but I’d like the XAVC-s codec. Some say it could be included in a firmware update but one of the recent interviews with a Sony rep, the guy mentioned that codecs would require new hardware. At least I think that’s what I heard.
On thing to say, also, is that the new model is not always a compelling choice. I have a Nex 6 and an A6000. I love the A6000, and it brings me some things the Nex 6 didn’t have (MP and fast AF), but I’m still happy with the Nex 6. I could take great pics with the Nex 6, and I still can.
The fact that Sony releases new bodies every 6 months is only a problem if you’re obsessed with having the newest gear. Otherwise, trust me, you shouldn’t care.
True, I still have my NEX-6 and it’s still a great camera.
I’m considering the A6000 mainly for use in conjunction with the FE 70-200 I just purchased. I’ve yet to test the lens on my NEX-6 though, especially with regards to AF performance, so any A6000 purchase is on hold until I’ve done that.
Where is the pont in 50-150 F4-5.?
Tiny but good, like Olympus’s remarkable 40-150 f4-5.6
We don’t need a roadmap. If your shooting Sony it’s called going off-roading. There will be mud, there will be flat tires and occasional attacks from wildebeests.
Hard to trust these figures. 25/1.4 and 50-150 are both too close to existent lenses.
Hulk did sneaky recon in sony hq.” Break! Suspend all lens development, is dangerous to lenses out now. Abandon!”
I want the same lens as samsung S lenses! 16-50mm 2-2.8 and 50-150mm f2.8
F4 and f5.6 is so freaking useless indoor! sony is getting me mad for not supporting professionals! Grrr! we bought the body now give us pro lenses! grrr! Must be Zeiss and G series only! I don’t care about the priece just give us what we NEEEEED!
For a moment – gotta admit – I was tempted by the Canon 7d Mark II. But seeing the initial reports I´m not impressed, I actually think they conned the canon-crowd in a major way once again. Both the a6000 and a77 mark II beat the Canon-sensor which oddly sits in a camera that is more than twice the price of the Sonys. Even then it lacks a lot of the cool features from the Sonys. I don´t think the Canon is bad, maybe/probably the AF is actually even better (it better be), I just think it´s way too expensive for what you get. Sony has done the right thing – formidable and affordable cameras with a nice form-factor. But if Sony dosn´t commit to both the e-mount and a-mount systems and provides a whole range of lenses really fast they risk losing what they have gained. Either that or build a bridge between the two systems. The a6000 is a lovely little beast. It´s portable, it´s always with you, takes wonderful pictures, and it´s perfectly capable of doing BIFs and sports even with the slow and somewhat short lenses available. But it could be much better. Think about what would be possible with a faster 300mm, a 55-300 or the 70-400 from the A-mount system (and no, not by adapters). There has been plenty of shorter and faster lenses for the e-mount system. But you gotta feed the whole eco-system. If Sony dosn´t stay comitted, neither do we. If Samsung really pulls it off with their NX1 and the 300mm 2.8 we may be drifting away. Heck, we may even be tempted by a new Oly or Panny. Cause as Canon seems to say: it´s not about the camera – it´s about the lenses …
Need a 60mm or 100m macro for NEX for underwater
Want to buy a6000/a7. But this news made me hold my horses and wait for january. Oh.my.goodness.
Well, a nice kit zoom is needed, indeed, but a 25f1.4 ? I really don’t believe this rumor. If that were true, I’d be totally hopeless about Sony’s marketing management. There are so many threads on the web asking for a 85mm (not equiv) !
That faster standard zoom would be most welcome and seems very plausible. 25/1.4 is likely pure fantasy – there is already a 24/1.8 and Sony say a 28/2 FE lens is coming next year.
Agree 85/1.8 or thereabouts is a glaring gap in the system – and something that wason the roadmap years ago!
Its like a 85mm prime for E mount is for bidden. WoOOO 85…85. Who said that?! People know its a lens of perfection and like 0 distortion why not make it? Sony just make a similar juicy 85 like ZEISS OTUS 85(dont forget $1/4). I wouldn’t mind holding that bazooka in front of my camera. I know it would be clicking like *KLSH-LOOKATME*. I like my sel35f18 the fact that the final glass is curved inward. Less distortion and easier to clean. They did the same with the 55mm. They should make a 85mm like that to. Make it similar to the 55. Wasnt there a previous rumor that sony zeiss was going to make the 85 or was that a fake rumor?
My Guess 24mm F1.4 winner = $1300 US = sleeping on the couch!
Give us a 23mm/f2 or 27mm/f2 pancake. I want to travel with my NEX7 and pancake lens alone!
I’d be disappointed if these were correct. They’re all too close to existing lenses.
A nice couple of sharp, fast WA primes (like the 24 1.8) at maybe 16 2.8 and 12 2.8, then a smaller, lighter, version of the 70-200 f/4 (current FE version is super, but size/weight defeats the point of e-mount aps-c size/weight advantage).
Isn’t the FE 55 1.8 already a stellar fast portrait prime, and still the same size as 24 1.8?
Completely boring and underwhelming, so they would fit in nicely with the current Sony APS-C line-up. The alpha 77 II has me slavering but seriously: Why bother when there’s no 16-50 f/2.8, 50-135 f/2.8, 18 f/2.8, 32 f1.4?
If anything, the lenses need to be even *faster* than FF lenses.
It can be done and they CAN retain a worthwhile size and weight advantage, as evidenced by the (discontinued) Sigma 50-150/2.8 and Tokina AF 50-135mm /2.8 AT-X Pro DX, both of which are just a little over half the size of a traditional 70-200 f/2.8.