At least in USA Sony is pushing down the prices of many cameras. And to not miss any of those deals here is the ordered list of all of them:
Full Frame E-mount:
$200 off on the Sony A7s sold by [shoplink 29602 ebay]GetItDigital on eBay (Click here)[/shoplink].
Sony A7-A7r trade in program is back at Adorama (Click here).
$200 off on the A7r body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and SonyStore.
$200 off on the A7 body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and SonyStore.
$200 off on the A7 with kit lens body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto and SonyStore.
A-mount:
$300 off on the A99 and free vertical grip included too at Amazon, Adorama and BHphoto.
The A58 with kit lens sells for $448 only at Amazon (Click here).
The 16-105mm lens sells now for $498 at Amazon (Click here).
Sony A77 for $618 at SonyStore.
Sony A77 with kit lens for $787 at SonyStore.
RX cameras:
Sony RX100M2 for $499 at [shoplink 29624 ebay]BeachCamera (Click here)[/shoplink] and [shoplink 29625 ebay]BuyDig (Click here)[/shoplink].
Refurbished Sony RX100M3 for $699 at [shoplink 29625 ebay]Secondipity (Click here)[/shoplink].
Extras:
Rocky Nook sells all their Sony eBooks with a 35% discount when you sue the code “RNSY14“.
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A-mount is dead. Let’s celebrate!
LOL, more of the ‘them vs. us’ mentality is silly. Isn’t this forum about Sony camera fans of all types? I am also a member of other brand camera forums and they seldom if ever echo this sort of dialog.
It’s a competitive user base. Alpha users, and NEX users, are two completely different target audiences, and SAR actually demonstrates how effective Sony’s marketing strategy is.
The Alpha system user is so diverse that these conflicts should be anticipated, and impossible to mitigate. It will only grow as Sony adds a medium format camera to the alpha system.
Both systems feed off each other, and they’re both growing. Together (A + E) Sony may surpass Nikon, and become the second largest interchangeable lens camera manufacturer in the next 12 months.
A-mount system is definitely not growing. Len sales are declining.
Only because most A mount users have the lenses they want and there is nothing really new coming out from any lens manufacturer lately (except for the rush on E mount stuff just to bolster that particular market).
(my comment below referred to your original comment regarding different systems for different people)
There are already thousands of A-Mount lenses in circulation.
Millions
Sony sales data from 01 Jul 14 indicate SLT (which are not DSLRs) are climbing. They’ve gone from 19% of Sony’s cameras sales to 32% between 2011, and 2013.
The SLT is on a rebound, and its sales are becoming a substantial addition (the largest) to Sony’s camera revenue.
So when you’ve finished up your lying for the day maybe you can troll elsewhere.
“Sales data is from Sony Inc’s A77II launch presentation, 01 Jul 14 in London England”
Compact Cameras declined since 2011, so you need to look at absolute numbers to get your data. Regardless of this, all this fighting over mounts is pointless. In the U.S., I’ve got word from the Obama that if you want to keep your mount… you can keep it. So there is nothing to worry about…
Sony has been bringing in less revenue, and earning more profit lately by doing this. Here’s the chart, and though “The Truth” is a complete nutt case, he’s actually quite accurate about the increasing sales for both mounts.
Sony’s launched its mirror-less cameras, and turned around the A-Mount in the last couple of years, at the absolute right time.
Had they remained another DSLR manufacturer they would have tanked. Had they gone exclusively mirror-less they would have tanked.
Developing the SLT, and launching mirror-less was their best Course of Action, and they’ve done well because of these decisions.
Should they should be “tanked”
That’s a complete bul**** graph there, you know. In 2013 they are, metaphorically, turning the volume up to 11.
And you never know, one day, the small bodied E mount camera users may start to appreciate what a full bodied A mount camera can offer and come and join us real photographers.
Come join us real photographers:
http://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2011/08/largestcamera.jpg
Hahahahaha…Nice one. 🙂
Is this the new M43 prototype?
Unless you have tons of specialty lenses and accessories I never intend to buy forget about it. I also refuse to use an adapter with that there contraption. I assume it shoots 12FPS as well- correct?
The photo above is nice and tells a story which photography is all about. It’s not always about an equipment race or a particular mount.
I’m only a semi-pro, but my so called obsolete A850, and five Zeiss lenses allow me the opportunity to generate more income than my full time profession.
The photo above is nice and tells a story which photography is all about. It’s not always about an equipment race or a particular mount.
I call this one ‘Man’s Best Friend’ using the so-called dead horse A900 w/ZA135 shot at f2.0 hand held.
http://sienavine.smugmug.com/Animals/4-Paws/i-VhWKxP8/5/XL/DORTEGO_2012_00028-2-XL.jpg
Oops, I somehow goofed when I tried to edit so sorry for the double post.
Great photo.
Thank you for your kind words.
Regards,
I want this, bad. I want to see a print the size of…say…a three story building from this. I then want to use a magnifying glass and inspect it.
They’d have to get real qualifications. I find most have difficulty understanding the difference between a BestBuy recipt, and a Degree.
We can celebrate by taking turns with your sister.
And record it on an A77II.
His sister is dead.
Link for “Refurbished Sony RX100M3 for $699” is not correct
Where is the official A7S discount???? Seems Sony think they are doing good with the sells of A7s (but they are not).
Sony are so much overpriced. All you need is to wait 1 year – then everything drops. Examples – NEX-7, A77, A99, Zeiss 24mm 1.8 lens, etc.
If you compare the products and features to the competition they are quite reasonably priced.
That would require thinking.
Sony isn’t gonna discount the A7s for a very long time, it’s a specialty camera, and they’re gonna milk every penny they can out of it.
The A99 is two years old, and long overdue for a price drop. $1999.99 two batteries, and a free grip is an outstanding deal.
Sony sold lots of A7S as far as I know. What isn’t selling is the a77ii. In fact the sale ratio of the a7 series cameras to a77ii is about 12:1.
A77 II needs XAVC-S update then it’ll fly off the shelfs.
That definitely wouldn’t hurt. But does it use the same “bixel binning” or whatever that tech is called that made the video on the a6000 so amazing compared to previous models?
I don’t remember the A77 price dropping like crazy after a year. The A99 took forever to finally get a discount. As with any electronic, a year is forever these days anyhow. You pay to be the first adopter. As far as NEX-7, A7 and A7R- well, it is what it is. Mirror less is still “less” to most people.
Yes, you sure know better. And by how much the price of the listed items fell after a year?
The only A-Mount Posts/Rumors are about “Massive Deals” that are more like “Small Discounts”. VERY SAD.
Your crack addiction is also very sad, start making sense.
Can anyone here really see Sony coming out with some massive plan for A mount next year. Their behavior makes me seriously doubt it. With all the thunder they are so desperately trying to give E mount, I can’t imagine the same weight being given to a new A99II, plus new lenses, plus new professional service program backed up by advertising and additional product support. If it was in the works they’d be hinting at it. They can barely acknowledge they still make A mount cameras.
A-mount already have a great system and wide variety of lenses.
E-mount needs to catch up.
A77II just came out and A99 doesn’t need an upgrade for another 2 years.
A-mount development hasn’t stopped, but I believe Sony’s focus is on E-mount for the next couple years until it catches up with the A-mount.
At this point I have some doubts as well, but only because of Sony’s horrible communications or lack thereof at Photokina. Even if they do continue with the ‘mount’ I don’t believe I can trust them anymore as a company. I’m already looking elsewhere but I’ll stay with what I have as long as it keeps working or while parts are still available.
Look how many of their people are either European, or North American, as opposed to Canon’s or Nikon’s executives.
Canon thinks globally, Sony simply doesn’t. None of Sony’s staff were proficient in English, and most were socially awkward. Hard to sell products when you neither understand a populations language or even their culture.
They will never understand the needs of the two largest markets (Europe, and North America) until they’ve surrounded themselves people who understand the culture of these key markets, and a six week course in English doesn’t cut it.
This is the same reason the PS3 flopped, and why they the PS4 was headed by someone (An American) who understood the global games market as opposed to the small Japanese market. The PS4 has been successful because of its American led staff who directed their engineers.
If Sony was smart they’d move development of the A-Mount to either North America or Germany where the SLR reigns supreme, and develop the mirror-less cameras separately at Sony headquarters.
Currently Sony is more of a danger to itself than either Canon or Nikon.
Since Sony makes excellent sensors my next Sony may be a Pentax (dreaming of course) but who knows, I’m just dumb enough to try.
Sorry, but this is racist nonsense.
If, as you seem to suggest, there is a cultural problem, why are there so many internationally successful Japanese Corporations? Did they all employ Americans?
smh
The PS3 flopped? Dude, you need a reality check.
What a bunch of nonsense. Go travel.
You’re crazy dude. All of your advice is either awful and/or incorrect. You really don’t think Sony has a top notch sales team? How did they get all the new retail space in stores and the promotions online to sell their mirror-less cameras? This is space, time and money that used to be taken up by boring Canon and Nikon lenses, cameras and adapters.
Sony has always been a big megalithic corporation, so ordering something like a lens cover for a lens they’re probably replacing soon is no way to judge the parts of the business that make them real money. Canon thinks globally? Canon’s thought of next to nothing, and as of right now doesn’t have a single competitive product in the marketplace. I’m brand neutral, believe it or not, and the only camera from Canon or Nikon I’d consider right now is the new D750. I shoot with 4 Blackmagic cameras. I own a Sony SLT, a Canon DSLR, and own mostly Nikon lenses. However, the only cameras to tempt me in the last year and half are the a7 series (3), the a77 II, the a99 (would have bought one if the price wasn’t so high), the D800 and the D750. It’s just my preference, but Sony definitely has something going. Canon better shock and awe the world with their new high MP camera. But given their attitude toward making new technology available to people at the beginning of their careers (or hobbyists) I expect to be less than blown away. Until I see what Sony comes out with in January I’m not buying anything because I think they’ve been up to something interesting. If they license out they new sensors to Nikon they’ll be doing everyone a disservice by letting them churn out more and more antiquated mirror-flapping gear. But maybe that’d make Sony the most money. And maybe I’ll buy a Nikon DSL-f’ing-R because of it. Who knows.
The full frame e-mount cameras are brilliant despite their flaws. With an almost open source lens mount it’s the perfect way to steal impossible-to-convert diehard Canon and Nikon fans. They put their glass on the a7, for example, then hear about the FE Zeiss 55mm, try it, and out goes a Canon lens. The camera, besides being technically brilliant, also has no competitors, and it is the perfect Trojan horse. It’s considered nearly impossible to convert old-school Canikon fans but Sony is doing it. I’ve read the reviews and posts that back it up. It won’t happen overnight but stealing any market share from those dinosaurs that have decades of goodwill built up with their customers is amazing.
Lastly, Sony doesn’t need a full on a-mount marketing blitz or campaign. The lenses are already there- not on a Canon or Nikon Level- but they’re there. All Sony needs is two strong a-mount cameras that deliver in a way that no other DSLR/SLT/whatever from another brand can. It’s that simple. And it sounds like they might do that. They should be hyping the **** out of the mirror-less cameras they have. No one else has a competitor to most of their offerings. Business strategy 101. Don’t confuse the message right now, focus on e-mount and let the children on sonyalpharumors cry in their milk.
Lastly, lastly, Germany, and especially America, have always followed the Japanese. We’ve always adopted tech slower and we still miss out on some products entirely due to a simple lack of interest in new tech. Not because we have our own good ideas– because we have nothing except what we develop in low quantities for our military. We also don’t have that cultural electronic fetish. Well, some of us do, but whatever. Germany and America will eventually go the way of the Japanese. Who else is going to make the cameras? Who do you think designed, developed and manufactured those DSLRs in the first place?
Also, the PS3 didn’t flop, it just didn’t make the gazzilion dollars that the PS2 did (which no console manufacturer is likely to repeat, ever).
Both mounts need each other at this point. E Mount needs A mount lenses to claim they have a full range of options. A mount needs E mount to keep interest in Sony Products. (Even if you’re a diehard A mount fan, you can’t claim the A77 II release has generated the same type of hype as the A7/r/s). In my opinion, the sign of one type of camera mount dying will be lenses going out of stock, vs the lack of body releases.
I read an old review of the A850 from 2010. The greatest thing was that the first two comments after the review were screaming that the A-mount was dead. Hahahaha. Same story from 4 years ago. Those that are saying the A-mount is dead have no idea what they are talking about now, just like they had no idea what they were talking about then. People need to just wait and see.
Reminds me of when the Mac was dead, several times over since 1984.
More on point, the deadicated A-Mount Zeiss section on the SonyStore website is gone, and some of the ZA’s are no longer shown but are still found via search. I think it has more to do with the non-SSM versions. I tried to order a spare ZA85 Lens Hood but it was canceled due to non-availability. You can still get it if you allow them to transfer you to the off-shore parts folks by which you’ll pay through the nose to have it. In fact, that’s how I got the last one. Also, the ZA135 spare ‘Lens Hood’ has just recently left the main store page.
Based on this I suspect the 85 & 135 ‘may’ be updated with SSM early next year. Too iffy’ to know for sure but that’s my crystal ball read.
I’m hoping the 85mm is updated first, because I’ve been using the 85mm G (d) far too long.
But the lense I’m most interested in is a new 35mm G. I use this lens heavily, and I’d like a newer model that is a tad sharper wide open.
It turned out to be an FE lens. There’s been no rumors about yet another Zeiss 35mm so far.
So I checked out the Sony website. Here are some interesting points that should scare any A mount shooter:
1) Click on cameras and there are zero upfront pictures of A mount. The “Alpha” camera icon is in fact a mirrorless camera. Scroll down and there is the A77II, but it’s buried at the bottom.
2) Click on “alpha” camera link and you get all mirrorless. There is the A77II in the left under savings- no other A mount listed or seen.
3) The advertisement center page suggests Sony views mirrorless as THE future- in fact, it states so. “Mirrorless Cameras: The Next Generation of DSLR.” It goes on….”Mirrorless cameras ARE the future of photography and Sony Alpha cameras are the leaders.”
Now how in the heck can someone read that last statement as a customer and understand how to interpret your own A mount products. What should I think? If that’s the future than what your telling me is that the A99, A77II are on the way out. Heck, the website refers to the A77II as DSLR- they can’t even label their products right.
I can’t even find a dedicated A mount page. The A58 is buried in the freaking website. The A99 and A77II are like an afterthought. The whole site is mirror less and on and on and on….
If I was new to Sony and knew nothing about Minolta, mounts, FE I’d be completely confused. There are numerous typo errors and navigating purely sucks. You type on lenses and there are four freaking tabs. FE, E, A mount and E to A mount adaptors. That’s just confusing for most people. A mount should have it’s own dedicated page- its own DEDICATED advertisement. There is no indication that Sony is even trying to sell it on their at all. Just sad.
I’m not sure where you looking, but under the professional heading I found this
http://store.sony.com/professional-capability/cat-27-catid-all-alpha-pro-capability
And the A77II pretty well dominates the page.
It’s probably the worst corporate webpage I’ve ever been on. Consumers easily get confused on issues surrounding compatibility, accessories and adapters. The mirrorless advertisement though leaves little room for personal interpretation.
You can only play one hand at a time. Like others have said: don’t panic and have some patience. Sony knows what it’s doing (unlike a couple other manufacturers). But I guess that’s what the internet is for- everyone freeeeak out, spread hearsay based on hearsay based on a hunch- and act like you were raised b a pack of wolves. This site kills me but I keep coming back. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Thank you Steven and Dan for rational, interesting posts. I ‘preciate it.
If somebody wrote this here, I’d say he’s a mindless troll and doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
1. E-Mount is not the future of DSLR, it’s the future of mirrorless and in no way a replacement for a proper DSLR camera.
2. It’s not ‘bigger capability in a smaller body’, in fact both are smaller.
3. The autufocus is not ‘the fastest’, but ‘the fastest among mirrorless cameras’.
4. Mirrorless cameras are not THE future of photography. They are part of the future, but still a niche product.
5. And, of course, Elphas are not Alphas.
But this is Sony’s official website… from the look of it, it seems they’ve completely lost touch with reality. A heavy mirrorless hangover is probably down the road.
PS. SLT is a type of DSLR, so that’s actually correct.
The Sony website has always been horrible and very poorly written and organized. When I call them it’s essentially the same deal.
I have since accepted this as part of how Sony is as a company, and I now understand that just because they make fantastic sensors, doesn’t mean they’re wise in business matters.
the eBay seller that’s selling the a7s for $200 less listed features such as 24.3 mp. maybe they’re selling the a7r for $200 less; not a7s?