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(SR4) new flash for the A7 camera

I got news from a source about a new external flash for the A7 camera series. Should be announced at Photokina!

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  1. That would be a good one.
    A more compact but having enough power flash would be welcome.

    The HVL60 does look a little bit weird on the tiny A7R body. 🙂

  2. Great! Also A6000 riiiight? 🙂
    I hope at least one model has the lovely articulation of the HVL series but less bulk (necessarily reducing guide number, but hey, whatever)

  3. I hope there comes a time when they make a flash which would use Li-Ion akkus, same as the camera. This one thing would greatly reduce the bulk and it would be extremely practical.

    1. I have thought that as well. It would be good it was a w series battery as you need spares for the cameras anyway. That would be an extra benefit of a well thought out system.

    1. Of course. I think they mean along the lines of the Nissin i40 in that the form factor is more in line with the A7 series.

        1. Except A-mount does need new flashes like an F60 replacement and this isn’t going to be it. So it isn’t the joke to those stuck with an expensive overheating flash that you think it is. Ho ho ho.

  4. I hope it’ll be a compact and fully featured flash as well, and I believe it’s time for camera manufacturers to abandon IR flash triggering and move towards RF triggering, it’s almost 2015 already!

        1. No. It needs to see the pulses, it can go around corners or not be in direct line of sight. Basically if they are strobing on the same subject then it can see it.

    1. RF trigger would also remove the need to use the pop-up flash, it’s odd that they haven’t moved over to RF considering the amount of third-party triggers being sold.

    1. Same here, I almost pulled the trigger for i40 until reviews mentioned about just ok build quality and the flash isn’t even.

  5. I sincerely hope it’s not like the “flash” that came packaged with all the early NEX cameras. A short list of hopes:
    1. Wireless trigger and control for Sony flashes
    2. Some tilt/bounce function
    3. Manual controls on the unit
    4. Not completely awful like all the other Sony flashes

      1. They overheat, its like summer all year for sony flashes compared to canikon. I think they have the best designed flash w the cobra head type design but that’s were the fun stops.

  6. (SR5) The new flash will take the e-mount camera’s W series rechargeable battery. Same performance with existing 43m flash but smaller in size.

  7. This will be so much better than anything from Canon and Nikon! And will make thunder noise after it went off! Sony innovation at its best!

  8. On the one hand, it’s good news in that Sony’s flashes need big help. On the other hand, this further segmentation targeting FEs is sure to cheese off those sick of The Year of F**king the A-mount, a never ending horror story. It’s a leading reason I have zero faith it’s going to get significantly better in 2015 despite recent rumors to the contrary. Sure, Sony will finally dribble out an a99II sometime 1st or 2nd quarter but other than lens refreshing at bloated pricing not expecting much. Sony marketing please prove me wrong!

      1. But I assume admin is pointing to it being scaled to compact FEs. A-mounters using the alleged pro line [cough, cough] can keep wearing asbestos gloves with their serious, buggy p.o.s. flashes.

    1. lol havent you said that you bought a nikon dslr recently?
      youre becoming a boring clown continuing with your alpha ramble posts…

  9. Uhhh… a7 has same hot shoe as Alpha now. Why all this about “specifically” for a7? Is it incompatible with Alpha, like many of the other MIS accessories that were supposed to revolutionize the industry? What a farce… the thumb screw adapter for RX1 has a lock, but the flash adapter for Alpha does not. What a joke… no, more like slap in face from a business partner who extorts money, and expects me to praise them for it.

      1. Oh, like the toy cameras it’s designed for. Got it.

        I wonder when they’ll fix the big kid flash system.

    1. Specifically small for smaller cameras… such logic occurs to me as I am looking for small but full frame cameras. I believe that it is the smaller form factor which makes it specific to A7…

  10. Just hope the Flash LOCK is better vs the 60m. That lock can easily get “slightly” Unlocked in PRO use on a BlackRapid Strap in an Event. Have had the 60m fall off hanging on Blackrapid straps. Something the sb900/910 has never done.

    1. I for one, like the idea Sony will ship a smaller E-mount Flash First. Hopefully , wait to make sure they did it Right. Then ship the PRO MIS RADIO Flash. … note: Nikon shipped the sb700 flash first , even though they knew of the sb900 overheat issue. 🙂

    2. Nor did Minolta iISO flash ever fall off because of locking mechanism. But what do you expect between the four pronged plastic toes of Sony 60m vs the full metal sled with metal pin lock for CaNikon offering. No comparison. Sony thinks you need a microphone instead of a flash.

      1. The lock and the MIS connection are two independent items. The f20m flash as well as other accessories have a locking wheel. Sony can improve the f60 lock without changing the foot/shoe.

    3. Ross, Have you checked that the foot is not actualy cracked?

      The crack happens internally and I have had three go this way. They can look fine, but will rock a little more than usual and are not held tightly.

      Curiously, the replacement foot is now a new design and it certainly looks like they have changed the weak spot, even if only slightly.

      1. Peter, a good point I was not aware of.
        But this particular 60m just came back from having the Foot replaced. 🙂
        Month ago

        It fell off I would say within a week.
        But note, I am harder on flashes. Because they hang. Via BlackRapid straps.
        Tape “has” solved the problem.

        But I feel compelled to mention. My old sb900’s. I have 4. None of them has been damaged ever. Even after drops and stands being blown over. But Yes the Overheat simular to the 60m…. sb910 has solved that.

        Sony needs to solve its Flash issues Overheat 60m and wireless delays (Speed)… And add the Wow with RADIO and “Strobist” connections.

        And there is a new Sony compatable “MIS” HotShoe Pro flash to come. the Metz 64 AF-1.. With Power and ability to Zoom to 200mm. … Very sb910 like.

        I personally rather use a Sony RADIO Flash… And Sony could make a portable studio Strobe B1 TTL RADIO competitor.

    1. As far as I know, it is still not available for Sony – only pre-orders, at least in the US. The last time I checked Hong Kong was about two weeks ago and it was not available there yet either. Nissin said they would be out in June but so far it’s been tough to get. I have a Nissin i40 for Nikon that I’ve been using and it really is a great little flash.

      Update: looks like from the comments below that maybe some early ones may be starting to ship.

  11. These compact flashes do have a problem unless they can be lifted like the 20, red eye and shadow from larger lenses to name two.

  12. It needs to have full a7 support and have:

    – AF illuminator assist lamp on flash to fire when using e-mount lenses
    – AF illuminator assist lamp on flash to fire when using LA-EA2/4 and A-Mount lenses

    So far NO external flash offers this feature. Get it together Sony.

    1. yes, I hated that I could not use the lamp with the adapter. Wireless would be very welcome but most of all they need to fix the overheating problem.

      1. Oh yes, because when mobile phones get smaller compact and more powerful every year, each year they are also incrementally overheating faster.

  13. I hope it comes with a built-in wireless radio trigger.

    btw if anyone is looking for an All-in-one flash system go check this out. It has a rated 60 output, high speed sync, built-in radio transmitter and receiver, socket for external power pack and an AF assist lamp all in a unified body. http://youtu.be/TSatAk4dPVc

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