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For readers….I am working on those rumors:
RX1s: Curved Full Frame sensor with 35mm f/1.8 Zeiss
A99II: Evolution of the current A99 (trimmed on speed just like the A77II)
Cinema PRO camera: Just got this…don’t know what it is yet 🙂
FF E-mount cameras: Got some weird rumor I have to check 🙂
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1st blood! but i have no info for admin lol…
So then your age is somewhere around 12 and youre female. There is something you will need every month from now on!
And dont get pregnant before youre 18!
Good night and good luck!
You are not far away from the 1000th first blood. Keep on collecting.
Doctor is waiting. 🙂
It’s such a BS with this triple check crap. Post the bloody rumors. This page didn’t have any rumors in ages only the news you could easily find yourself and a sh**load of affiliated links.
I heard a rumour that there’s $5 off an NEX-5 on Fleabay!
This is exactly the kind of “sh**load of affiliated links” Mr speaker was referring to.
You’re a smart one, aren’t you?
that’s what i heard too. I also heard a rumour of Sony is likely to produce a 16-500mm f1.8 lens and only priced at $100.
Yeah, but no OSS, so that’s not very interesting.
Tack sharp throughout the entire zoom range I hear.
absolutely agree!!! post the rumors! that’s what SR1-SR5 is for… post at SR1 if need be and then when you get more confirmation post again with higher rating saying you have more confirmed sources justifying the upgrade to SR5 or whatever!
Well, I don’t mind the double or even triple checking before posting rumors, but I do mind the excessive amount of sponsored links, Amazon sales ranking disguised as “research,” etc. I’m fine paying admin some commission for running this site, which does take energy and time, there should be a better balance.
wait, what? “working”? really?
Hm. Maybe the Cinema Pro camera is this bulky Canon 1C alike “thing” what they have had in the glass cabinet at last PK12.
F..k off with speed trimmed A99II. I’d more expect resolution.
RX1s – hm, take my money? 🙂
A99II
Maybe both?
How about the fastest 36MPx camera?
Such one with 10,12 or even 14fps would be impressive!
8fps with decent buffer would be plenty enough if it is FF with RAW, continuous AF, full aperture control and no/minimum EVF black-out.
This makes me wonder, however, if the limiting factor is actually shutter mechanism, not the electronics. So far the fastest FF shutter Sony used was in A99, which was capable of 6fps. Minolta Maxxum/Dynax 9 was only capable of 5.5fps. The fact that they have 12fps on APS-C does not mean that they can do 12fps on FF – travel speed for FF shutter is significantly faster and structural engineering does not scale the way you might think it does.
P.S. 36Mpix, 8fps (FF RAW, without various limitations for EVF or aperture functions), good AF point coverage (comparable 5d3 and d810), fast and precise AF (including low light!), responsive EVF, no flash delay issues, competitive low light performance, reasonable price (<3k$ on launch) and they have my pre-order. Throw in fully electronic shutter usable for time-lapse and stop-motion and you can add couple hundred to the price. Throw in internal 4k video with decent bitrate and codec, and fullHD video with 120fps and I might be willing to pay couple hundred more.
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If the RX1S has improved autofocus and a RX100 Mk III like viewfinder I will sell my A7 with 35mm 2.8 and enjoy compactness.
1. You can’t is a RX1 in your pocket. If you can, it does look ‘calm’ if you know what I’m saying.
2. You won’t be able to pick up a third of a RX1 from the salvaging of your A7
3. Never mind.
Fit* gj auto correction.
1. I know, but it’s smaller and the lens is awesomer than my Voigtländer 35mm f/1.4
2. Thankfully my A7 is not my only asset.
3. OK.
A Pro FF Sony Cine camcorder is absolutely certain. It will definetely have the A7s sensor. Sony never builds a sensor for 1 model only. Their FS100 & Fs700 are aging and are certainly ready for a refresh.
I imagine the new “100” model will be a solid 8 bit model with 422 HDMI. I would guess that the new “700” model will be 10bit with SDI and maybe some overcranking.
Id bet all the money I have that this A7s sensor will spawn at least 2 camcorders.
If that’s true, a lot of FS700 owners who’d just invested in the 4k upgrade and recorders in the past year will be unhappy, unless these new cameras are exorbitantly priced.
The FS700 has had a couple year run. So traditionally speaking, the FS700 is almost “end of manufacturing life”
Sony is moving quickly away from AVCHD now and pushing XAVC. They “could” leave the FS700 with the only RAW 4k comcorder with over cranking. This could help them sell a few more 700s before its over.
The bigest problem with the 700 is that its misding XAVC and an internal 4k codec. There is no way to ad that and they cant halt new 4k sales because of that problem.
The FS100 and 700 are almost dead without a 4k internal codec. The FS100 already had a massive price drop…the 700 will also drop soon. If not by this IBCI convention than certainly by NAB time.
The FS700 is still top of the line when it comes to 4K acquisition. its the only camera under 30k for 12-bit and/or RAW 4K. Hopefully convergent design will finally get 4K Pro-Res soon. I don’t really see the point in replacing it for 2-3 more years.. not to mention the overcrank in 2K and 4K..
I could see a paid upgrade it update the processor and firmware for XAVC (S) internal maybe.
Sure…the FS100 is a crazy amazing camcorder…no doubt. To do 4k, it needs 3rd party or other Sony external hardware. This was great when 4k was “new”. Today, Sony will want the FS700 replacement to have Sonys XAVC 4k.
The FS700 was well ahead of its time. An onboard 4k codec was not really possible when it was designed. (at least in Sonys mind) Today?…the technology has caught up to the 700. BionzX is here and solving allot of scaling problems and making new things possible.
As great as the 700 is, its production days are numbered. This new A7s sensor is a video MONSTER. Honestly, a new 700 with that new sensor and great onboard codec will destroy the old 700 in low light performance.
Sony is also making a huge FF lens push. They are ramping up on format big time. A new power zoom cine lens is also almost ready for rollout too.
Its imminent…Sony wont sit on new technology to keep around the technology. They need to start recycling the old 700 customers and get them to start moving into the new 700 in the next year. (the new 700 might retain 4k RAW option as well)
Expect eBay to see a huge number of 700s being posted for sale….and a big price drop on the last new units in Sonys stock.
Hmmm Sony has been doing 24mp at 12 fps for how long now? even if it’s APS-C the diff. cannot be that great if still 24mp. (Sony has been improving read off the sensor speed a7r) NOW, think about a 36mp a7r sensor that can do 6fps full RAW+JPG (beating 5Dm3 , because it’s 36mp) … and then in APS-C crop mode doing 12fps! with GREAT AF-C. Thinking FAST “FIRST” AF lock and Reliability. It’s the First shot that counts. and it probably needs a Good Dynamic AF (Expanded Flexible Spot) even in AF-S. it also needs to be at least -3 EV AF. Then, we are talking something special. ……… > a faster a99 ONLY (with same 24mp as the a77 m2? , is that exciting?) will sell about as well as the a99 did. and that is probably NOT enough for a new FF to be successful. and create some IMPACT. WOW factor needs 36mp AND SPEED. … just my feelings.
Would not be surprised if the “cine” camera is an FS100 replacement, considering the A7S almost completely overshadows it.
I hope so too, but it’ll be tricky not to compete with the FS700. Let’s hope it’s not another VG900 type… I mean I’d be happy with the VG1000 if it had the IQ of an A7S, ideally with internal 4k.
A Camcorder style camera with the A7S and XAVC-S 4K internal limited to 4:2:0 seems likely to me. right around $3000-$3500.
I would expect a FF cine camcorder with the A7s sensor, slog2, 8bit 4:2:0 4k XAVC long GOP with HDMI would easily cost $6000. This is the original price point for the FS100.
What is the purpose of keeping the information until it is known already to be true? What happened to the SR1 to SR3 rumors?
Last time I checked this was supposed to be a rumor site. not a facts site 😉
So please share the info you get. Even if it is just a SR1 level!
Very interested in the Pro Cine Camera rumours. Bring it on! 🙂
I tend to agree Admin, go ahead and post the rumors using your ingenious SR levels 🙂
Forget about the winers who don’t get the purpose of this site, your real fans don’t care how many turn out to be false, especially at Level 1… lol those are for entertainment purposes only anyway 😀
Nikon is suppose to release a D750 Full Frame, specifications: 51 AF points, 8fps, 91k pixels RGB sensor. Can A99II do better? I guess Nikon will have a high ISO advantage.
I expect the a99II to compete with the d810. If Sony came out with a a88 it could take on the Nikon d610/d750.
The A99II should be the top of your list.
The A99II is going to be twice as fast as the D810, (D4S speed), while employing the newer mirror that uses a 33% less than the current model. Plus the sensor is a generation newer than the D810.
The only reason the original A99 didn’t receive the 36mp sensor was an overheating issue. It was corrected a longtime ago. In the meantime Sony’s managed to develop the worlds fastest AF system. Did I mention 40% coverage (at a minimum) 79 points (at a minimum), and Lock on AF Expand Flexible Spot.
So the D810’s only advantage, the ISO performance gap will be severely diminished, however the A99II’s strength is its 12fps, and the world’s faster AF is what those of us who can use large white lenses are most interested in.
Where did you here it had 12fps? Remember the 99 shot about half the speed of the 77. I would not assume that Sony will knock our socks off with this camera.
“assumption is the mother of all fuc*-ups”
The rumour that its 12fps isn’t new, it was put forward as early as last year, and it is a known design goal of the Alpha designers.
Their goal is to eventually outperform all DSLR cameras. A high IQ, FF, SLT camera, that can do 12fps is easily achievable
Sony doesn’t want a dozen FF SLR cameras just two fully loaded models, and both will likely outperform their competition by a wide margin.
You are basing this on what, Sony’s previous dslr’s? Their flagship camera pales in comparison to the performance of Canon’s or Nikon’s. Processing ability was available at the time of the 99 release but Sony chose to put in their current paltry Bionz processor. It’s a chore for that camera to even format a card. I hope they shock me with a great camera. I would love the trade my 99 for a new camera. I’m just not holding my breath. My 1Dx’d wowed me, the 99 is a good camera that could have been so much better.
I was actually talking to the Sony Canada’s sales, and marketing reps today (face to face), and have a very clear idea where Sony is taking the A-Mount. Sony is designing A-Mounts that are going to outperform todays top cameras like the D4S by a wide margin, for a third of the price in bodies similar in size of today’s A77II.
I hope and pray you are correct. That is the best rumor I have heard. Will this start with the 99II?
Oh here we go lol do you honestly think a low level sales rep [they are doing presentations in camera shops] in Canada has any knowledge of future stratagies .If so you are even thicker than your endless fanboy posts would suggest
STFU
Damn Coward – That’s all you have. Maybe you need to grow-up, and watch your immature Yankee mouth, cause one day somebody is gonna put the boots 2U.
He’s just another blog commando probably trying to be a virtual tough guy. Yup, he’s a loser.
That was my take on yesterday’s meeting as well. Its pretty cool that they sent their top dogs to talk to us lowly professionals.
I just wish they’d let us know if they’re going to launch the new 35mm f/1.4 this fall or not.
I’d say it’s not gonna launch until the 35mm G-Series is gone, and apparently its out of stock everywhere.
91k pixels? I hope you meant 9.1m pix. Cause 91mpix isnt coming anytime soon and 91k is good for, well, dumping it into a trash can.
I heard that it will be around 18 mpix.
As far as ISO goes, that depends on the sensor.
So far 36 mpix sensors have been outperforming their 24mpix counterparts. 12mp A7s and 16mp Nikon Df were the only ones to perform better in high ISO than all of the above. The dynamic range is worse on both though at low ISO
91k pixels is the metering sensor.
Metering, that also supports AF…
Well, i would more love RX2
RX1s with curved sensor can be nice, and the 35mm F1.8 to
but please, give us better AF, titlt screan, evf
Why not a range finder when you’ve got the fixed lens? 🙂
I want a A99 mk II s. The same system that A7s has. Then i could use different lenses from other brands. But with state of the art autofokus and IS
for the reasonable price too?
Offcourse
I still hope for a successor of A58 and 65 🙁
No successors till the end of the year for sure.
Why do rumors need to be “triple-chequed”? Rumors don’t need to be checked at all. That’s the point of gossip.
“FF E-mount cameras: Got some weird rumor I have to check”
If it is weird it is probably true. 🙂 You know Sony.
If the 99II is only an evolution, will it have a 24 or 36mp sensor? I cannot believe no one has challenged the 800 or 810 from Nikon. As for being faster, It can’t be any slower than the present 99 which is a turtle when it comes to processing prowess. I had a Commodore 64 which was faster than the 99. Don’t think Sony could ever beat Nikon when it comes iso when comparing the same sensor. Sony just has to get close on that front. How about giving us some double checked rumors.
Current digital camera market shares in the EU (extrapolated from data acquired from representative retailers in all 28 EU countries):
DSLRs (including SLTs)
Canon 44%
Nikon 35%
Sony 11%
Ricoh/Pentax 9%
Other brands 1%
Mirrorless ILCs
Sony 21%
Panasonic 19%
Olympus 15%
Nikon 14%
Fujifilm 13%
Samsung 9%
Canon 4%
Leica 3%
Ricoh/Pentax 2%
Fixed-lens cameras
Canon 21%
Sony 14%
Nikon 14%
Panasonic 11%
Olympus 10%
Fujifilm 9%
Samsung 6%
Ricoh/Pentax 4%
Leica 3%
Casio 2%
Sigma 1%
Other brands 5%
That’s a good find. Its nice to see Pentax’s and Sony’s DSLR market share is rapidly growing at Nikon’s, and Canon’s expense.
Can you post the source of this info, I am fairly surprise for Mirrorless, Sony is fairly low at 21% while Samsung is at 9%.
The key words here are ‘extrapolated’ and ‘representative’.
What method has been used for extrapolation, and how reliable is the data? How many retailers in each country have provided data, and how representative are those retailers? It seems like the margin of error would be quite high in a study of this sort.
Extrapolated – in this instance meaning total guess . Either provide the data { which will be tricky as it doesn’t exist] or stop spreading nonsense based on wishful thinking.
What wishful thinking would that be? I don’t see any obvious brand bias there.
Your going to have to cite your sources, or send us a link to the original report, otherwise the trolls are going to eat you alive.
Bahamas ticket is ready 😉
I have a rumor, Sony want to buy Minolta……… again!!!!!. Lol.
You heard wrong, they want to sell it, then sue them for using the same technology as A-Mount, then, when they go bankrupt, again, Sony will buy them, again…
Another Rumor, Sony want to buy Nikon !!!!
I heard they are going to discontinued the Sony A100. 🙂
A9R with 54mp