I got this news weeks ago and now we got a proof via the Russian agency Novocert (Thanks Photorumors for spotting this). Sony will launch a new QX E-mount camera. it will be called ILCE-QX1. It’s basically a sensor and mount module that let’s you fit E-mount lenses on your smart phone or tablet!
I really don’t know if there is a market for this 🙂
P.S.: Photorumors also confirmed the rumor we posted last week. There will be a new 35mm G lens and a 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G (article here).
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Lets hope its the RX100 sensor, paired with my 35mmF1.8 hmmmmmm
So now I can pick which lens to use on my doggy cam? So ‘effing cool!
doggy cam? Are you referring to the dog harness for the Action Cam?
I really would like a 24mm f2.8, a 105mm f2.8 macro lens and a 24-135 mm 3.5 5.6 for travels instead of the rumored 28-135 f4.
4mm in wide angle changes ALOT.
of course a 24-135 f4 sound almost impossible to have right now…
The QX concept is interesting but the cameras are way too big and laggy. Ahead of its time. Just like Ricoh GXR.
I’m interested to hear about an updated 70-300mm G lens. I was considering getting the current one. I wonder what aspect(s) of it they’ll update.
That’s two digital backs – QX1 and QX1L. What does L stand for?
The L one could be a kit that comes with a Lens
I’m not sure of elsewhere but in Canada the code for a lens is “K” for kit lens, ie QX1K.
I’m open for the L being something all together different from a kit lens.
Maybe different sensor options? Like the A7 family.
The α58 (for example) is available as a kit with 18-135mm lens – this kit has code SLT-A58M. It’s also available as a kit with 2 lenses (18-55mm and 55-200mm) – this kit has code SLT-A58Y.
The point being that Sony’s kits are not always designated by adding some predetermined letter to the product code.
I liked the QX concept at first, but in practice these cameras have many disadvantages:
-like 10-15 sec before first shot (long boot + needs pairing with device each time)
-laggy live view
-limited features/control via phone (single mode, limited ISO, no advanced RX100 stuff and codecs)
-too bulky when attached
-no LCD/viewfinder – shooting blind when without phone/dead phone battery
-too expensive (you’ll be better off with RX100)
-2nd device to carry/charge each time
-can’t post photos online and communicate with the QX camera at the same time – only one network connection works
In other words – they are not very convenient.
Just curious how my 18-200mm lens will look attached to a smartphone with this mount module, will it hold the lens without counterweight 🙂
You should keep in mind Android 5.0, complete rewritten Photo/Video Stack. Including RAW Photo, all Sort of Settings etc.
Make an a-mount on both sides, place inside 1 inch sensor, attach to a77, connect to multi terminal or MIS, attach macro or telephoto lens to the one inch a77 with 100% coverage EVF and sweet 2.7x crop factor…
multiplier x20?
I would buy it in A-mount, so I can use my pocketable Sigma 50-500 (4.5 lbs) paired with an iPhone.
you’ll be able to do so, just put an A to E adapter! Are you new here?
Model No.
WW328261 ILCE-7R
WW328262 ILCE-7
WW328267 ILCE-6000
WW328270 ILCA-77M2
WW328274 ILCE-7S
WW328276 ILCE-5100
WW808143 DSC-RX10
WW808147 DSC-WX350
WW808151 DSC-HX60
WW808153 DSC-W830
WW808158 DSC-HX400
WW808159 DSC-WX220
WW808161 DSC-RX100M3
WW024263 DSC-QX100
WW024264 DSC-QX10
WW024382 ILCE-QX1
according to Indonesian Post&Telecommunication body, the model number did corresponds to the ilce ones.
http://www.postel.go.id/sertifikasi/index.php?0601=&key=2&cari=sony
There is market for this, Andrea… it would be great for microscopes, telescopes… many scopes 😉
Wow, I didn’t even think of that! Perfect use case right there!
Yes, the additional 200g of a proper E-mount body is the major issue preventing people from using the existing bodies for that purpose… NOT.
The additional 200g of a “proper E-mount body” offers nothing for these users, especially people who need to have the sensor mounted at awkward angles or out of reach.
It’s all about full remote control from android device… or from PC. An also this could be cheaper and for sure will be smaller than “proper” body.
http://www.cameratown.com/assets/news/large/Olympus_DP71.jpg
This QX will be in build similar to professional equipment made by Olympus.
PS Establishment of Sony Olympus Medical Solutions Inc. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201304/13-0416E/
Do you have ever tried to get decent focus with a camera attached to a telescope? Its hard enough with the viewfinder or display but almost impossible to do that over a wifi lifeview on a mobilephone. The lag ist way to much.
obviously most folks with telescopes prefer to use laptop or tablet instead of smartphone.
I personally think that this makes much more sense than the QX10 because the 1/2.3″ sensor is closer to mobile phone cams and it makes less sense to lug around this extra equipment.
At the same time a QX1 with an APSC sensor and the 20mm/2.8 Sony pancake is a different league, and also cheaper than the A5000/A6000 range. Yes it would be fiddly and slow, but makes sense for more people than the QX10. Especially if it carries A6000 AF speed as well.
Some.people want zoom, believe it or not.
Wouldn’t the x1 imply it’s full frame? When people said they wanted an FE body without an EVF, I don’t think this is what they had in mind…
That would actually be awesome.
If it shoots raw and has an APS-C sensor, I’ll just buy one and mount it to a tripod and use it as a dedicated product shooting camera. Also, think about walking around with a cheap and compact prime like Canon FD 50 1.4 with one of these attached. Or go for a wider angle, stop down to f/8 and be there.
Just try one of the existing QX and you’ll see how ‘awesome’ this one’s gonna be.
That bad? 😀
Hahaha this is such a rad idea.
Sony, you crazy!
Tried the QX series and they just weren’t snappy enough, especially the QX100, it’s basically a cylinder shapes lens, which is way less pocketable than an actual RX100.
It’s a good idea, but if it’s anything like the previous QX’s I’ll pass.
I’d rather just get a NEX body… like the 5 series or even the 3N, which are really small, use an Eye-Fi card to send pics to the phone (unless it’s 5R/5T/a5000/a5100 which can send pics to phones anyways).
Except with the older 5 series or 3n, you cannot hold the lens away from the body and still take pics. That, and the eyefi drains battery, as it requires your camera to be on while it slowly xfers pics.
The QX cameras drains battery more faster since they usually stream over wifi ALL THE TIME. And if you use them without a phone, you either hit once or miss a lot.
I guess Sony wants to sell e-mount lenses, so that people will buy e-mount gears afterwards. (As the lenses are as expensive as the gears). Clever move, Sony 😉
Interesting concepts and applications as some posted. The big thing that Sony needs to improve is the connection reliability and lag time. I understand it could be a technology constraint but lags just ruins most experience
Imagine if instead of controlling a QX E-mount with your phone’s display, you were able to keep your phone in your pocket and view everything on Google Glass (or some screen over your eye). If the tech was responsively fast enough, this would be the biggest advancement in camera tech since the rise of digital photography. You won’t need to look down at a screen again. You won’t need to look in the direction you’re shooting, once you get used to the tactile controls on the QX mount. I’m happy to see evolution towards this nirvana.
QX FE-mount (A7s sensor) with IBIS that responded quickly and could sync up with Google Glass would be the dream that dreams are made of.
of course, if it doesn’t get outlawed
Every peeping tom’s dream 🙂
I guess those lens-cameras were profitable enough to warrant this.
It means there will me many hulls around this module built by hobbyists… maybe even a DSLR based on it 😀
Now we’re talking…. 😀 😀 😀
In Soviet Russia, lenses interchange YOU!
Hahaha, priceless!
This is well and good. But what they need to improve is the connection and data transfer of this device to the smartphone or other device. It must negotiate and connect quickly. It must not drop the connection easily. It must also be able to transfer images taken to the phone very quickly. It must handle medium and if possible large files easily and transfer it. It must also have it’s own slot for memory for raw or files that may too large to transfer quickly. If possible, it should be able to shoot video and stream it to the phone.
The smartphone must be able to do a host lot of things too. It must not just trip the shutter or zoom in or out. It must let me do manual focus, maybe even have a timer, or intevalometer and maybe filters, etc.
The ability to put e lenses on this opens possibilities for photography. Though size will be compromised depending on lens, it will, however afford one to shoot with long zooms or fast lens. The big question is, will it have IBIS or will it rely on the lens’ own OSS for stabilization? IF the lens has no stabilization, then it will be limiting.
If this is possible, then I will consider it. I don’t expect this to be good in all areas but if it can have a fast and reliable connection, that’s a big thing already. The first ones were not that good in connecting and keeping the connection. This was turnoff for me.
Yes, it mostly comes down to the speed and responsiveness of the experience. At present, the QX line is pretty much unusable for serious photographers. But if the connection can be improved, this concept could open up a lot of very exciting possibilities.
You can be sure this will not have IBIS. I spoke with a Sony executive about this a couple years ago, I was pleading that the E-mount would be far better served with IBIS. He agreed, but told me that it’s a technical limitation due to the short flange distance of the mount. I told him that I hope Sony is working on overcoming that limitation, and he gave me an ambiguous response that implied that they are working on it. They’re aware of the value of IBIS for E-mount, but it’s very challenging. We all hope that the Olympus investment will help finally deliver IBIS tech to future E-mount cameras soon.
I just hope it will feature the curved sensor one!!! Wow, imagine that!
If it’s for E-Mount lenses then it will not, unless there is some sort of glass correction. I doubt this would be possible with the range of lenses
Figures. But one can only hope…
Yes, E-mount lenses have short backfocus which makes design of any rear mounted adaptors very difficult
There is an article in the german “Profifoto” which states, that Sony has problems to build a (zoom)lens that would work with the curved sensor (the question was about a 24MPix Curved sensor and/or a possible RX-1 successor).
Source:
http://www.profifoto.de/nc/news/artikel/article/sony-curved-cmos-sensor/
Who cares… Where is the A99II?
A mount adapter plus 70400G on a Smartphone….
I am interested if it comes with a fully electronic shutter.
It is most likely a Samsung NX mini equivalent with the same 1″ sensor. It calls for new lenses though???
it’s ILCE. ILCE suggests aps-c or FF sensor.
If the connectivity issues are solved, then this is really a revolutionary stuff indeed~
No market?? Assuming it supports RAW, this is exactly what I would want for something portable! The lack of raw is what kept me from the previous QX models.