This is the kind of rumors I do not like to post. But I got word from a good source that the new Sigma 24mm f/1.4 ART and 14-24mm ART lenses that will be announced at Photokina will be available in their A-mount version in 18 months only!!!
Sigma wants first to focus on Canon and Nikon mount version. They predict they cannot produce enough of those lenses for the first year. Therefore A-mount (and likely K-mount) production will start around early 2016 only.
This is the exact the same story we had with the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 A-mount lens. At last I hope the 50mm ART will ship soon. Preorders are already up at Amazon (Click here) at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here). In Europe at WexUK (Click here) and WexDe (Click here).
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Seems that they are designing more lenses than they have production capacity for.
Unfortunate for A-Mount and Pentax users.
From sales persepctive it is reasonable to produce for the high demands first.
My premium reseller once told me, that from all Sigma’s he is selling more than 2/3 with Canon mount.
Yes it is reasonable. It’s just that the most hardcore Sony and Pentax fanboys refuse to believe that there is more demand for Canon and Nikon.
It’s a shame that Pentax is not able to refresh its aging lens lineup (only the pancake lenses and the cheap zooms were refresed lately with HD coating – a marketing hype not a real refresh in IQ terms) considering their history and the fact that Ricoh has money to invest in the brand.
http://photobyandrei.wordpress.com/
Ricoh certainly has the money, since it’s a very large company, but they don’t seem to have the ambition to really invest in the imaging business. It’s such a small part of their overall business, that they don’t even break out the numbers in their financial reports.
i spoke to a sigma rep recently, and its fairly easy for them to build other mounts, but if the demand is less then they end up holding inventory, so thats why some lenses dont make it to pentax or sony. presumeably the first production runs are canokia and SA mount to reduce changeover time, and to please the owners of SDx’s.
i suggested they did something similer to kickstarter for the less popular mounts
From a cursory look at their site, they seemed to have limited their lenses and are only concentrating on high quality designs. A smaller portfolio of top range lenses unlike the old line up of several questionable quality zooms and stuff. This is good.
Hope they do FE lenses.
If Sony doesn’t seem to care about A-Mount – why should Sigma?
Nikon has 4 full-frame bodies right now: D610, Df, D810 and D4s. I guess this new D750 will fit between the D810 and the D4s…That’s too much full-frame bodies imo considering the aps-c line is made of only three models: D3300, D5300 and D7100…A lot of people are asking for the D300/D300s replacement…
Time will tell if Nikon made the right choice but from a financial pow it seem they didn’t.
http://photobyandrei.wordpress.com/
The shift is going toward high-end cameras since the low end is shrinking due to continuous demand for good cameras on mobile devices. So Nikon is trying to play it safe by offering more high-end stuff.
Aps-c still has the bulk of sales in the dslr market. Compact cameras are having problems due to more perfomant camera phones. It’s not the case of dslrs.
D750 will slide in between D610 and D810.
D610: Entry level
D750: Jack-of-all-trades
D810: 36 MP
D4s: 11 FPS, best ISO, toughest body
Df: Hipster bait
As FF cameras become more and more affordable, APS-C gets scaled down. Makes perfect sense.
What doesn’t make sense is Sony having A99 as their only A-Mount FF offering.
Also the A99 is more comparable with 6D than with 5D mk III when AF points are concerned. It not an action ff that’s for sure. It’s geared towards stills and video. So a new flagship is required if Sony cares for the A mount ff users. A cheaper ff would also be nice…at the price of the A7.
Cheaper FF – as mentioned here by many, A99 can fill that niche at a reduced price, after a newer FF appears.
no worries.. i don’t have planes of having a-mount whatever.
thank you anyway !
What’s A mount?
A mount is a mount!
Don’t worry about Sigma…Sony has the G lineup and the Zeiss lineup (those made by Sony) and also the genuine Zeiss manual lenses so the options are greater in the premium sector than Canon (L lenses) or Nikon (golden ring lenses) have to offer…
http://photobyandrei.wordpress.com/
Almost all Sony’s lenses lack weather-sealing, some still lack SSM and the prices for those that do, like 70-200G2, are rediculous.
And now 3rd-party alternatives are dissipating too.
Allmost all Sigma lenses lack weather-sealing too…
Yes, but Sigma lenses come at a different price.
And for what Sony is asking, you can expect weather-sealing.
Sigma doesn’t offer weathersealing last time I checked in. And I only know about one 3rd party lens that has weathersealing…and it’s the 150-600 f/5-6.3.
My dream got just burried… 24 1.4 would be a dream for astro photography and auroras…
In 18 month the high level season of the sun is gone…
Agree with Sigma. And, Sigma should go to and focus on E or FE mount instead. A mount’s feature is not outstanding in comparison to the success of E mount now.
A-mount is dead by then… Glad I switched to Emount… 🙁
If they kill off A mount they will certainly kill off E mount next..a leopard does not change its spots.
Sony treats A mount customers like crap.
New products and technolgy come last to A mount.
Very few new A mount cameras..36mp sensor and super high speed sensor have still not reached A mount.
Based on Sonys words alone they intend to continue to support A mount…
Based on Sonys action they want to let A mount suffer a slow death and fade away….only releasing a dribble of new stuff to prevent the masses from panicking.
Why therefore would we expect a 3rd party lens manufacturer like Sigma to any more than Sony itself is doing.
Sony began producing a 36mp sensor over 2 years ago that the photo industry considers state of the art…they have even made several rounds of improvements on that sensor already. ….but they have still not gotton around to making it in A mount.
Sony has a 54mp mult layer sensor…according to most rumors….when are we likely to see that…my best guess is Emount and all of Sonys competitors will see it first while A mount will finally see the old and no longer state of the art 36mp sensor.
Two or 3 years after that it will finally reach the A mount about 2 months before E mount gets the new 76mp version.
But back to the question of when A mount will finally see the state of the art 36mp sensor….2 months before E mount and Nikon see the new 54mp sensor.
So waiting 18 months for new Sigma lenses to get around to us is really a short time.
I reccently cancelled my preorder for the Tamron 150-600 thats been out for a while now when it ….but not in A mount yet…when it became apparent that it would definitely not be available for this years Bird photography season…
I am anxios to see what Sigma 300-600 will be like…of course I also have to wonder how long it will take to reach A mount?
The 12Mp super-sensitive sensor also made it debut on A7S, and we have no idea when to expect it in a A99-IIS or if they are even doing it at all.
A hacker claiming to want Sony to spend more of thier profits on playstation product…yesterday took credit for taking down the Sony gaming network and grounding the Sony ceo by posting a threat abought his plane. This according to CBS newsradio.
Obviosly a really bad reaction to frustration..and totally unacceptable criminal act.
But you totally understand the hacker’s frustration, right? That’s what you’re saying, isn’t it?
How long until you’re on the news, Barry?
I find your baseless insults to be very frustrating.
There are cures for frustration.
Cause he’s a troll, and that’s what they do.
BTW, Sony recently admitted they have no idea why people buy Playstation.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/20/sony-doesnt-know-why-the-ps4-is-doing-well/
And this is not some low-level rep, this is Shuhei Yoshida, head of Sony Entertainment.
So, why shouldn’t we believe that Sony may be as clueless in the camera market too?
Haha. I was worried you had given up on this 70+ MP multilayer sensor thing. I am glad we only have to wait 2 months to see the 54MP sensor that is definitely, maybe, probably not coming out this year.
Thats 2 months AFTER we finally see a 36mp A mount.
Look at the Tamron 150-600. It came out in January and 8 months later it’s sold out at Amazon and back-ordered at B&H in a Canon mount. I thought it was already out for Nikon but B&H still lists it as a pre-order. I know they’ve developed a Sony a-mount version because every once in a while you’ll see some Asian eBay vendor offer one at crazy high prices. Maybe a Sigma 300-600 will expand the market enough to better meet photographers’ need in this segment. Certainly Sony, Nikon, Pentax, and Canon won’t change their habits of not offering competitive lenses in this range.
I’ll pass on the tired high MP sensor discussion. I get you’re frustrated. I get there probably were some rumors about it in the past. But it obviously isn’t on the horizon.
Regarding the a-mount? I flip-flop around. Sony’s Photokina fail which appears to be a re-run of the lousy CES show has kicked my enthusiasm for Sony to the ground. I have an event in early October I’d like to have an a99II in my hot little hands for. Since it’s a 90% as sure thing they won’t be available by then, I’ve got time to ponder my options. Obviously, I’d prefer to take the easy course, stick with Sony, and maybe pick up an a99II around Christmas or more likely spring. However, part of my interest in the a99II is born out of disinterest in what they did with the a77II and, as everyone knows, the choice of a-mount bodies is simply pathetic.
The bottom line is the handwriting may be on the wall to switch to Canikon. I’m lukewarm to the notion but keeping my options open. It certainly solves the problem of lens support.
Sony is giving us little reason to stay with A mount and absolutely none to switch to E m.mm. mount.
Foll me once shame on you…fool me twice shame on me. …. Anyone that switcjes to E mount because Sony phases out A mount is a fool and will get burned again.
I am still waiting to see if Canon does indeed produce the rumored high resolution multi layer sensor that rumors predict…it still seems to be a well guarded secret.
Lenses are always available first for Canon and since. I need a new long lens..the A77II actually burned out my autofous mechenism on my bigma…this might be the perfect time to switch.
By the way I reviewed the a77II in sony tidbits.
Yikes! Sorry to hear about your Bigma fail.
I’m still holding out hopes for an a99II but have started following the Canikon rumor sites. Canon holds no interest for me in FF but the 7D replacement rumors sound interesting and Canon’s got some options in wildlife photography lenses Sony and Nikon can’t match right now. The Nikon D810 is the best all-around body but it’s big and expensive. Love to see an a99II match the D810’s features for $2,500.
The Canon 600mm f4 is supposed to be the best longlens ever…bu too expensive and too heavy for me.
The cotton carrier can handle mo more than 10 lb but I would not trust it with more than 8 or 10.
I put a small tool poch on my belt an put the bottom of a monopod with simple 2 way head in it.
It supports the big lens, adds stability over hand held, and can handle the wieght..cost $ 6 because I already have a monopd.
Sometimes I like this better , sometimes I like the cotton carrier better.
I used both.
Actually more people are adopting the Sony A-Mount than Sony E-Mount. They’ve already returned to 11% of the DSLR market, and the A-Mounts previous 15 to 20% is easily within reach.
Not gonna happen unless they put thier state of the art technology into A mount first rather than just hand it down to a mount after it becomes old technology.
They’re busy designing the A99II.
Barry the original A99 didn’t arrive with the 36mp sensor because of overheating issues. I personally wouldn’t want a camera bursting in flames for the sake of 12mp.
Yes, Sony treats third party lens manufacturing companies like crap, and why should they treat them any better. Sony makes more money off lens sales than camera bodies, so IMO they should doing more to alienate Sigma, and Tamron, and build better in house solutions. I’d rather have a Sony designed 150-600mm G-Series lens.
Plus in the meantime Sony has managed to develop the worlds fastest auto-focus system, and both will be present in the A99II.
So save your dough and buy a camera that outperforms everything.
The problem, of course, is Sony will never design a 150-600mm lens and if they did would charge $5,000+ for it. Since Sony is so far in 3rd place in DSLRs you’d think they’d be clever enough to foster 3rd party support through cheap/free licensing. Some have suggested contracting with lens makers to rebrand designs as Sony. Expanding the base lifts all boats. Extensive 3rd party support attracts customers to Canikon like bears to honey.
Sigma is the biggest lens manufacturer…more people buy Canon mount Sigma lenses than Canon lenses.
This is even more true with Sony lenses.
Sony’s been chasing away third party lens manufacturers for quite some time. The best example is the launch of the 18-135mm, 18-250mm, and all of the easy choice lenses all of which undercut Sigma, and Tamron heavily.
Sony generates much of its revenue from lens sales, and they’re prepared to defend their turf. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Sony version of Tamron’s lens if it’s popular. Made with stricter standards, quality control, SSM II, and Painted white. They own 20+% of Tamron.
They did it with the Tamron’s 11-18mm, and 28-75mm due to their popularity on the A-Mount.
A supertele Sony zoom lens is an interesting idea.
I dont see Sony doing it though…they seem to be too busy building lots of differrent versions of the same standard wide angle/ normal/ portrait length lenses tha everyone seems to get so excited about.
Wait, every camera has A mount? My A7r has A mount for example. So, A mount isn’t dead. Sony’s DSLR/DSLT business on the other hand… not looking so hot.
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messed up…..bad google translation? lol
Sorry, was just being cheeky. I actually think Sony is happy to let the Aloha limp along. Probably doesn’t want to kill, but the future is not bright
If limping along is earning 50% more than mirror-less, and growing faster than the e-mount your actually right.
Please could you post these amazing figures you keep going on about and state the source?
The source is Sony idiot.
LU CID I wouldn’t bother you’re wasting you breath with this one (who is definitely an idiot). It’s a well know fact the A-Mount sales are rising in the semi-pro/professional circles, but what isn’t represented is Sony’s A-Mount lens sales vs bodies.
Sony G-Series, and The Sony Zeiss ZA lenses that are doing tremendously well, which is why you’ll probably see more G-Series, and Zeiss ZA lenses in the near future, and maybe a couple of DT optimized lenses for the A65/A77/A77II users.
As for the article I wouldn’t buy a Sigma 24 mm or 14-24mm if my life depended on it. The Zeiss 24 mm, and 16-35mm are exceptional performers, and are the only choice 100% compatible with Sony’s newest AF features.
They’re obviously too busy working on a new flash for the MIS confabtrapulation.
Having trouble with the flux capacitor warp coil. Tough to reverse engineer that.
I doubt these lenses get released in A mount. Sigma has to see Sony is putting almost all it’s resources into e mount. They need to see a commitment from Sony to A mount before these get released, and that’s not likely to happen. It’s a pity cause the A mount lens lineup is far nicer than the slow overpriced garbage that’s being released for e mount.
So right. Sony is going shamelessly for system cameras without a system :-). High priced devices for snapshot photographers…
And that’s why Sigma released the 35mm, 50mm, 18-35mm for the A-Mount, and nothing for the FE. Sigma has already abandoned the FE as opposed to their 29 years of support for the Alpha mount.
Yeah Sigma knows where the money is, which is why K-Mount, A-Mount versions are being announced, and not the FE Mount.
How can you abandon something if you were never with it in the first place?
It’s easy to announce A-mount/K-mount lenses, as it’s pretty much a straight mount swap. Designing for a mount with a much shorter flange distance requires alteration of the optical design if it is to be done properly.
It’s OK. We still have Samyang creating lenses for Sony cameras.
Zeiss, and G-Series are the only lenses that matter, the rest are inconsequential.
So much undeserving blame for the Sigma delay is directed at Sony from many of these comments. Last I checked, Signa decides when Sigma releases their lenses. Even if e-mount did not exist, Sigma would still release first for Canon & Nikon.
Looks to me that Sony wants to kill off the A-mount and focus on E-mount.
The A-mount has legacy focusing mechanisms which don’t play too well with Phase detect on the sensor in combination with contrast detect.
Hence they will not perform to the potential of the new AF systems coming out.
Furthermore, to silence the critics, they HAVE to remove that semi-transparent mirror to eek out maximum sensitivity from the sensor. With the mirror in place, their high ISO sensitivity takes an awful beating.
I don’t see potential trouble in the A-mount lenses AF actuation. The control of AF is in the camera. The camera tells the lens to move in one of 2 possible directions for a certain degree. That will be directed the very same way to any AF lens, no matter if the actuation is SSL or mechanical axle or whatever.
Not really true. OSPDAF works with A-Mount lenses, as shown in A99, but the information must be provided by the camera, not the lens itself (as in E-Mount), so only a limited number of lenses can be supported.
Which may actually be a good thing for Sony, because they need to sell Sony-branded lenses.
So the new Sigma ultra wide zoom will be quicker on the market, than the one from Sony?
Sigma is on a big roll for high end primes (And some quality zooms like the 18-35) but it seems they’re struggling with production line capacity. It would be a great chance for Tokina to make a comeback and offer more stuff.. Or Tamron to step into making more primes.
This should be no surprise. We are lucky they are making it at all. Would not be surprised if they decided not to do that.
Beside all the negativity here I think sony want to see canon go first this time and then realse competing a mount
And there is a chance that next a mount is still in R&D to improve the slt design or something
There is no way sony will let a mount die
But in the same time I am desperate for the next a99 🙁
They earn more money from the A-Mount than any other camera line they sell. Sony is looking deliver a well placed blow to Canon’s, and Nikon’s top of the line cameras. The 12fps A99II isn’t targeting the 5D, it’s designed to outperform the 1DX, for 1/3 the price.
Sony makes more money selling A-Mount G-Series, and ZA Series lenses than camera bodies. They may sell the A99II for a loss if it they believe they’ll make the money back on high-end lens sales.
So it’s pretty clear right now what’s goin on with A mount 🙁
This is no different from any other time Sigma release lenses. CaNikon always get them before other mounts, it’s nothing new and doesn’t signify any change of view that Sigma has of of A-mount.
I don’t think A Mount is dead but I think they’re transitioning it to the second option. To be honest, it already is a pretty complete system. Some of the lens design might be getting old but that doesn’t change the fact it HAS those lens available. They just released the a77II and it may not have all the newest features but it does have most of them. The a99 might be getting old but then again top end cameras don’t come out as often…even the Nex7 took awhile to replace and some claim it still hasn’t been. But it does seem like they’re basically putting all the new tech into the emount cameras and then moving them into A mount. The entry model cameras are also shifting towards e mount. In my opinion these are all major signs they’re going to focus on e mount. A mount will always be around as long as the dslr form factor is wanted. But don’t expect nearly as many updates or new products as the emount system. It also works much better with larger, faster lenses. But I think Sony is content with trying to take over the mirrorless piece of the pie. They may lose some customers in the process but seems like the influx of new emount users is worth more.
The A-Mount has never been the camera for the masses, it’s designed for advanced armatures/semi-pro/professional, and it’s lenses or bodies aren’t cheap.
The A-Mount dropped its consumer models because they were loosing money on base models like the A37 that cost more to produce than what they sold for.
Sony’s A-Mount APS-C is doing great, so ‘amateurs’ are covered.
Sony doesn’t make much for ‘semi-pro/professional’ though. They offer the half-baked A99 and a bunch of non-weather-sealsed screw-driven lenses and no professional service. There’s also little to no promotion, all promo-pictures feature the A7 line.
The A99 is a great camera. However a 36mp live-view version of the A900 would have been the smarter choice.
Actually the majority of the SSM equipped Zeiss lenses, are protected against the elements even though they don’t advertise them as weather sealed (cause of legal ramifications, and warranty claims) its the same reason watches aren’t called waterproof anymore there water resistant.
If you look at the lens parts list for the 24-70mm or 16-35mm you’ll see just as many gaskets, and seals as Nikon’s or Canon’s models.
I like my screw driven lenses, they’re smaller, and lighter than my Zeiss primes, and I can always seem to find enough room to squeeze them into my Pelican case without using a rubber mallet (joke).
I know I’ve thoroughly abused the 16-35mm f/2.8, and 24-70mm f/2.8 for over six years in adverse weather conditions with no ill effects.
Here’s a great article to read. His 24-70mm is actually cleaner than mine after a road trip.
http://www.swiatobrazu.pl/sony_dslr_a900_at_dakar_rally.html
Thank you! This comment was very helpful.
There is nothing new here. The Pentax, and Sony SLR mounts are almost always told 18 months prior to any major Sigma launch. Then Sigma doesn’t sell as many Nikon, and Canon versions as it was hoping, and the K-Mount, and A-Mount versions arrive 12 months early.
Let me guess, Canon shooters will get them first 🙂
Boycot Sigma! Oh wait… you’ve got no choice anyway!
I think part of the issue is communications. Wex only stocks the a-mount USB dock because I told them it was available (after asking sigma when it would be available). Reading between the lines, the UK stockists don’t seem to have known it was available for Sony/Pentax. Contacting Sigma directly really can make a difference, so I really do recommend it is you want to these lenses sooner…