THose of you searching for a new powerful flash will be happy today:
The German company Metz unveiled the new Mecablitz 64 AF-1 digital (all info here).
And Phottix released the new Mitros+ TTL Transceiver Flash for Sony (all info here).
THose of you searching for a new powerful flash will be happy today:
The German company Metz unveiled the new Mecablitz 64 AF-1 digital (all info here).
And Phottix released the new Mitros+ TTL Transceiver Flash for Sony (all info here).
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What foot , old or new MIS .
Spec’s read
Metal base*** with quick lock
* *** Excludes Sony version
Old Minolta one, read the specs:
The Phottix Mitros+ Flash can be used as Wireless Master Unit only on some
cameras, they are: DSLR-A900, DSLR-A850, DSLR-A700, SLT-A99V/SLT-A99, SLTA77V/
SLT-A77, SLT-A65V/SLT-A65, SLT-A58, SLT-A57, SLT-A37, NEX-7, NEX-6, A7 or RX1
I don’t know… The GN 64 is rated at 200mm. I mean it’s awesome it can zoom in that far, but still, at 100mm it probably hasn’t much more power than the 52 AF-1. Also, it seems like it uses the old hot shoe, which is strange, since Metz recently updated their whole line-up with the new hot shoe. Anyone knows for sure which one they use?
At Lighting Rumours they’re stating that it will have the new shoe (http://www.lightingrumours.com/metz-64-af-1-roadmap-6020#.U8hYuPl_tRo) – but on the homepage of Metz there’s no hint to the shoe. But as Metz now has versions of their latest two flashes both with the old Minolta shoe and the new one no chance that there will be only “old shoe”. Either new shoe only ore two versions…
And to the ratings: at 50mm the 52AF1 is rated “38”, the 58AF2 “42” and the 64AF1 is rated “43” – so it it is more powerful than the 52AF1 but it’s clearly a replacement for the (older) 58AF2! The 64AF1 also has this small extra front flash light like the 58AF2 and there will be no version of the 58AF2 with new shoe depending to Metz.
(I live in Nuremberg, the Metz facilities are just outside of Nuremberg at Zirndorf and I’ve been there for getting a repair of one of mine 58AF2 after it felt down to a concrete floor from eye level – they did the repair for free though it was more than obvious that it was my fault… and I took the opportunity to ask the servie people about the new shoes…)
Specs says for cameras like Alpha 900 and other older cameras…. so it’s the good old Minolta hotshoe
Metz is offering flashes for the MIS. Phottix is currently only selling accessories with the minolta foot.
+1 Metz 64 AF-1 is the latest MIS, will be buying one as the secondary fill flash is very useful for bounce flash photography.
The photix stuff is with the old foot..
Apparently it is for the Minolta hot shoe, “Phottix Mitros+ TTL Transceiver Flash for Sony (Minolta Hot Shoe)”. On the other hand, they say: “After more than three years in development Phottix’s series of TTL hot shoe flashes for Sony.”. So they spent 3 years developing a flash for the Minolta hot shoe, only to learn that Sony dumped it. Tough luck!
Well, they must mean the flash series in General was in development for x years not just the Sony version. The multi interface shoe is nearly 2 years old.
I think you got have it right. Phottix did not have the “Odin” or TTL for Sony but they did have the wireless set (non TTL) while they had the ones for Nikon and Canon. It is just a matter of changing the old shoe with the new one.
Definitely, since they have the Sony communication system down it should just be a hardware swap if / when they get the parts. Someone on here previously said that they have to run through their stock of minolta shoes beforehand.
It really should be a simple fix speaking from my pocket wizard experience. Broke the plastic foot when stand fell over. It was a DIY replacement as Pocket Wizard mailed me the replacement part. Multiple YouTube videos with the TT5 coach you through it. Phottix should consider the same – a DIY project to swap out the foot rather than the adapter route which raises the center of gravity, adds bulk and impacts the firing position with umbrella or softbox.
Phottix… a photography industry company that does not know how to take photographs of their products and probably has the worst website out there. But… their stuff just works. And works well 🙂 I’ll be getting a couple to compliment the Odin setup I have. Built-in wireless should be quite nice!
the stupid sony nonsense nex hotsoe that is incompatible with standard hotshoe. really nice.
Don’t know what you mean… I do use my A7R and SLT-77 MK II with Nikon SB-28, SB-80 and Elinchrom stuff with standart hotshoe stuff…
I mean TTL using nex-6 etc.
Do you think that you can use a Nikon flash on a Canon body and use TTL?
If you don’t like my photography comments, you should leave . No one cares for your personal attacks or endless nonsense. Ignorance such as yours is never a problem, stubbornness to learn is.
Of course, if you would ever like to meet face to face – I am more than happy to do so. I don’t hide under anonymity.
The Photiix flash unit is interesting due to its wireless receiver inbuilt.
I hope that they discovered the new Sony models not having the old shoe anymore…
However it should be no big prob. The ones who bought an A99 have the adapter new to old.
The ones who bought a HVL60 got the adapter old to new. So what.
I am still using my “old” Strato II system which was the first affordable and perfectly working system.
The Metz would need to be compatible to the new shoe, and it must be re-designed compared to the 58 AF2 in terms of persistence against head heating…
As there is a 52 AF1 with the mIS available, I hope they added it to the 64 as well.
I asked Phottix about a month ago and their answer was :
“Thank you for contacting us. Phottix Odin for Sony is equipped with Minolta-legacy shoe. It is compatible with with all of the camera’s you have via the hot shoe adapter. A new Phottix Odin for Sony/Mitros+ TTL Transceiver Flas with MI hot shoe are in the works. So far no release date is known for these models. Thank you.”
PHOTTIX MITROS+ TTL TRANSCEIVER FLASH FOR SONY
(MINOLTA HOT SHOE)
I hope ^^^this^^^ is true. Minolta Hot Shoe Rocks!
Thank you Phottix. You have my business for life. Very excellent products and vision.
I have two Odins and four receivers which work perfectly on SonMino 56 series with a900/700/77. Nothing works with fragile Sony MIS adapter except full power in all modes. The Odins work great with my Dynalite, Norman, ProPhoto and Sunpaks too.
Phottix wisely releases “+” Mitros for superior Minolta iISO shoe. That’s where the loyal Alpha Strobists are, and probably will remain. OVF cameras are far superior to EVF cameras for Strobist work. They don’t automatically gain up the viewfinder. a900 Intelligent Preview is a Strobist dream come true for flashworks. OVF shows better outdoor shadow detail on sunny days, exactly what the Srobist needs to see. Still the most advanced flash system available. Now we have nothing lost compared with our CaNikon friends.
Mitros “+” (different than standard Mitros)
+ Built-in Odin Transmitter
+ Built-in Odin Receiver
+ Built-in Strato Receiver
+ Memory Functions
THIS is real advancement. Real solutions. Adapt to THAT Sony.
In continued protest to Sony MIS inferior hot shoe sad crime joke, I’m purchasing a third a900 body with three Mitros+ to update and COMPLIMENT my existing system. I get to work with NO hassles.
Sony MIS has produced nothing but frustration, confusion, unreliable, unpredictable, and embarrassing performance. Yes, the Sony adapter system has embarrassed me in front of good paying clients. No more. That’s not why I partner with a camera company.
Thank you Phottix…
…for thinking about what photographers really need to make work more playful.
Your loyal customer,
Clyde Thomas
http://www.ctphotographx.com
Here’s another working tog who hates new Sony flash system.
http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2014/06/a-very-critical-equipment-review.html
Kirk Tuck says “The doggiest flash I’ve owned”.
Metz isn’t saving the Sony flash system. They just got suckered into Sony insanity. It’s still the most fragile shoe/foot combination in history.
Nice try though Metz. And thanks for not dropping original iISO. Smart move!
Will consider when a native smart radio slave arrives to go with it.
Ok, then please show us some reports on the WWW that report broken hot shoes.
Nobody gets to use it long enough to see it snap. The flash overheats. It’s broken before ever getting out of the gate.
How about you show one hot foot in history that is cheaper made than the Sony. It’s not even full sleds… just four toes. Why does Canon Nikon use metal?
Still no Mitros + for Sony on Phottix web store. Make sure you get the right one.
http://www.phottixstore.com/store/catalogsearch/result/?q=Mitros
http://www.phottixstore.com/store/catalogsearch/result/?q=Mitros%2B+Sony
These have HSS right? Looking at how to get HSS on A7.
You have the option to buy Phottix Odin but keep in mind that it has the old Minolta hot shoe, you need the Sony ADP-MAA adapter to fit it on Sony a7 and for every flash.
There are many other options will work with manual flash setting only with HSS but I really don’t know which one.
Many commenters are concerned about the durability of the flash foot. Has anyone on here suffered a broken foot?
A few canon flashes of mine has suffered drops. The feet were fine…but the flashes still broke nonetheless.
I have had the F60 flash with the new foot for about 15 months. The flash itself is a dog due to the overheating issue. While I have been concerned about the durability of the flash foot, I have not had any problems with it (my bigger concern for it is when using the flash on a bracket, which with the swinging arm of the bracket to re-orient the flash above the lens for portrait shooting, I think would be greater stress on the flash foot; thus I have not used the flash on a bracket all that much).
I have had some problems in the past with a flash getting knocked off a camera, or a dropped camera with a flash mounted. I believe the flash foot was designed to be the fault point if something like that happened because it was/is an easier part to fix/replace. I recently had to replace the flash foot on my F58 flash due to an “accident,” (the flash foot on the F58 is all plastic) and while the new flash foot cost about $80 for the part, I was easily able to do the repair myself (it involved four screws and the ribbon electrical connection inside the flash). I would much rather have damage done to the flash foot than to other parts of the flash that would be more expensive to repair (and would require a trip to the repair facility).
Marc, I own two f60 flashes and I have also been deeply disgruntled by the overheating defects. I started a thread on the Sony community board, feel free to add your voice directly to Sony:
http://community.sony.com/t5/Alpha-SLT-DSLR-Cameras/HVL-F60M-Flash-Overheating-Unusable/td-p/139177
This flash should have been recalled, but it seems Sony will get away with it. I can only hope the eventual f62 flash does not overheat after so few fires, has built in radio control (or wifi/Bluetooth or something) and has a damn sync port.
Yes, My canon repairs were more costly than $80 and had to be done by CPS.
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New Mecablitz and Phottix flash are for A7 aka A6000 camera series. Just for you to know folks.
And for the A99, A58, A77M2 and all future Sony cameras.
I emailed Metz and was told the units do have the MIS shoe and production of the Sony version will commence in early October